West African tamil language links?

[kikuyu1]

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I first posted last year on this and other unmistakable African links. It seems the thread was closed-I haven't been here in over a year so I hope its not a problem reposting.
Anywhere there's cultural,skeletal,linguistic and even dna evidence from Indians themselves.

A study discovered though Indians are related to what is known as the east Eurasian genepool, their clusters 1 ,11,VII,IX,XII AND XIV which spread from the ME originated in Africa.

I can't post links but punch this into google:karanjazplace.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-secret-histories-of-black-people_10.html
Also a Tamil scholar identified Cameroonian languages as similar to Tamil;you'll see on the link.
What says this forum,many of whom seem professional historians?

 

[kikuyu1]

I first posted last year on this and other unmistakable African links. It seems the thread was closed-I haven't been here in over a year so I hope its not a problem reposting.
Anywhere there's cultural,skeletal,linguistic and even dna evidence from Indians themselves.
I can't post links but punch this into google:karanjazplace.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-secret-histories-of-black-people_10.html
Also a Tamil scholar identified Cameroonian languages as similar to Tamil;you'll see on the link.
What says this forum,many of whom seem professional historians?

Come on people! Someone must have a theory,however vague-let's hear it.

 

[Jaykay767]

Hello Kikuyu,

PS: you may need to read many of my earlier posts on ourhistory.

My views: (this is still work-in-progress, hence have notposted yet).

Tamil & Kannada are the languages of the Sumerian& Akkadian Civilization/s. Sumerian civilization has been theorized as aBlack civilization by many. Both of thembelong to the ancient Mesopotamia.

So this civilization existed close to Egypt & they occupiedmuch of Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan & India. They are the ones who also inhabited the Mohenjo-Daro& Harappa, hence the artifacts are almost similar to the Dravidian symbols.

Over time, the Persiansconquered Mesopotamia, Afghanistan, Pakistan & North India, so the Dravidianswere confined to only South India. That’s why the Brahuis in Afghanistan speaka language very similar to Tamil.

The same race also fled to Egypt & Africa during thefall of the empire carrying these languages. Hence you see the similarity in Africanlanguages & race to the Tamils. Sanskrit is the ancient language of Egypt& the chants are the sacred incantations.

Since Sanskrit & Tamil / Kannada are languages fromthe same region & speakers, Sanskrit has the same substratum influence asDravidian. That’s why Sanskrit Slokas sound very similar to Dravidian.

Read my earlier posts - As part of Alexander conquest, theEgyptian Priest & soldiers came to South India bringing their culture,traditions & language.

Since Mesopotamia is the oldest civilization as per mostresearchers (based on the dating of the artifacts), Tamil / Kannada may well bethe oldest of all languages as staunchly claimed by their followers!!

Cheers,

 

[mskmoorthy]

You may want to watch this video cameroonians Speak Tamil


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWyAYGlFZjk

 

[renuka]

You may want to watch this video cameroonians Speak Tamil


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWyAYGlFZjk

I just saw this video..there are few words that are similar but I dont think its enough to establish

a 100% proven connection..cos a language is much more than a few words.

It should includes language structure in terms of syntax,grammar and morphology etc..to establish a connection.

Just by a few similar words one can not establish solid evidence.

For example Malay has many Sanskrit words but the grammar structure,morphology and syntax is entirely different from Sanskrit.This can only denote influence of a later kind but not an origin.

Further more it would totally unfair to claim(as in this video) that Cameroon was once upon a time Tamil Land and use the term that Cameroonians speak a "deformed' Tamil as the narrator keeps saying non stop in this video.

Would a Cameroonian want to agree? For all you know they might think that Tamils speak a distorted Cameroonian and TN was Cameroonian land.

So to me I feel its not fair to rob Cameroonians of their own culture and heritage by saying they speak Tamil until solid evidence is found.

In the quest of discovering the glory of India and her languages we should not try to claim everything was Indian until proved otherwise.

 

[mskmoorthy]

This message could be a மண்ணாங்கட்டி or a wishy washy. Any way here is my comment:

I did not mean my posting a youtube to be viewed as jingoistic. I may not have interpreted the video as trying to rob of Cameroonian culture or language (I could be wrong here).
It is possible to misrepresent ones findings in a talk (especially in an archived talk) unless there is a clear evidence or proof to that effect.

All the research is what we know (or the scientists know) at this time and theories have to be viewed as such.

It is one of the well known theories of continetal formation (pangaea) that africa and India were nearby before the continental drift Pangaea - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia or this youtube ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGcDed4xVD4 ) -


I do not know whether language existed before the continental drift (I am not a linguist ).

There may be a common ancestor for cameroon language (as spoken in the mountains) and Tamil. (I have not looked into the literature for it). Rare languaes are spoken in many different communities. Usually linguists try to preserve these languages. You can see here about their efforts Top 10 Rarest Languages - Toptenz.net
and 'Talking Dictionaries' Help Preserve Endangered Tribal Languages : NPR

Here is the human migration route from Africa.
https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/human-journey/

Migration of Africans to India Episode 1 | The Story of India - Timeline | PBS

About language spoken Cameroon, it includes afra-asiatic langauges Languages of Cameroon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia - May be the common ancestor of Cameroon spoken in mountains is an afro-asiatic language.

 

[kikuyu1]

You've all misread or misunderstood the evidence. Its self evident:Africans were the first Indians. If you follow the links you'll see they emigrated as far as NE Asia leaving unmistakable linguistic,skeletal and cultural artifacts.
Cameroonian language similarity with Tamil is an undeniable part of this evidence.

 

[Jaykay767]

Nothing is self evident !

Did you know Britishers took many Indian slaves 200 yrsback including Tamils to work in Africa? Tamil’s have been known to be great seafarers, they could have gone through via sea or land. Chola conquest to South east Asia via sea iswell documented & they could have gone to NE Asia from there.

Did you know there was an ancient Elamite land mentionedin the Sumerian texts.. ?

This is where you need to know which civilization is older& what happened to those people, how they migrated in the past.

History is a serious subject!! If you want to engage inserious history discussion, then we can continue. if it was/is all selfevident, you would not have found the need to put this post in the first place!!

 

[kikuyu1]

Nothing is self evident !

Did you know Britishers took many Indian slaves 200 yrsback including Tamils to work in Africa? Tamil’s have been known to be great seafarers, they could have gone through via sea or land. Chola conquest to South east Asia via sea iswell documented & they could have gone to NE Asia from there.

Did you know there was an ancient Elamite land mentionedin the Sumerian texts.. ?

This is where you need to know which civilization is older& what happened to those people, how they migrated in the past.

History is a serious subject!! If you want to engage inserious history discussion, then we can continue. if it was/is all selfevident, you would not have found the need to put this post in the first place!!

You're right. I should have said it straight out: the first Indians were African. I can't repeat all the evidence,its all there. I'm also working on S Nigerian/ S Indian language linksrepare to be shocked!