• Welcome to Tamil Brahmins forums.

    You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our Free Brahmin Community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

    If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.

Why do we worship God when we know Karma ‘s effect can not be changed ?

Why do we worship God when we know Karma ‘s effect can not be changed ?


According to Karma theory positive actions results in one’s positive experience.

Whereas negative action results in negative experience. The effects may be seen immediately or delayed. Sometimes the delay may be indefinite due to the intervention of God’s grace.

God does play a role as dispenser of Karma.

Take for example that we buy a medicine and it has its expiry date,

Printed on it saying “Best before …… a date is mentioned if we do not take that medicine before the expiry date, the effect of that medicine is weakened or sometimes there is no effect.


Similarly when we worship God and surrender to Him in true sense, God as dispenser of Karma can delay the effect of Karma indefinitely or make it ineffective as in the case of Medicine and expiry date mentioned above.


So a good astrologer can predict our bad period based on planetary / star positions, by worshiping God, and surrendering to Him, the bad period may be postponed indefinitely. That is why there is a need to worship God all the time, more so when we are facing bad period or when we know we are going to face bad period




This post is for sharing knowledge only, no intention to violate any copyrights.
 
Though Karma cant change but we can upgrade our operating system by praying to God and change our ways and gradually align with God in our ownselves.
 
Though Karma cant change but we can upgrade our operating system by praying to God and change our ways and gradually align with God in our ownselves.
Prayer has no power to change anything. By calming the mind, we can come to the realization. The Bhakti Marg, which in my opinion is borrowed from the Abrahamic religion, I Sanatan Dharma, states that there is no meeting your maker after death. So you do not have to praise or pray.

Karma and samsara

Karma translates literally as action, work, or deed, and also refers to a Vedic theory of "moral law of cause and effect". The theory is a combination of (1) causality which may be ethical or non-ethical; (2) ethicization, that is good or bad actions have consequences; and (3) rebirth. Karma theory is interpreted as explaining the present circumstances of an individual concerning his or her actions in the past. These actions may be those in a person's current life, or, in some schools of Hinduism, possibly actions in their past lives; furthermore, the consequences may result in current life or a person's future lives. This cycle of birth, life, death, and rebirth is called samsara. Liberation from samsara through moksha is believed to ensure lasting happiness and peace. Hindu scriptures teach that the future is both a function of current human effort derived from free will and past human actions that set the circumstances.

Moksha
The ultimate goal of life, referred to as moksha, nirvana or samadhi, is understood in several different ways: as the realization of one's union with God; as the realization of one's eternal relationship with God; the realization of the unity of all existence; perfect unselfishness and knowledge of the Self; as the attainment of perfect mental peace; and as detachment from worldly desires. Such realization liberates one from samsara, thereby ending the cycle of rebirth, sorrow, and suffering. Due to belief in the indestructibility of the soul, death is deemed insignificant for the cosmic self.

The meaning of moksha differs among the various Hindu schools of thought. For example, Advaita Vedanta holds that after attaining moksha a person knows their "soul, self" and identifies it as one with Brahman and everyone in all respects.

 
Last edited:
Though Karma cant change but we can upgrade our operating system by praying to God and change our ways and gradually align with God in our ownselves.

Sairam Renuka , the Post is wholly based in Sri Sathya Sai Baba 's Teachings..
Can the effects of past karma ever be mitigated by grace? Bhagwan emphatically answers this question that often bothers us.
Today’s Sai Inspires from Prasanthi Nilayam - 31 Oct, 2013
Some might argue that the inheritance (Karma) of the previous births has to be suffered in this birth and that no amount of grace can save you from that. Evidently, someone has led you to believe so. The Grace of the Almighty knows no bounds or limits! I assure you, you need not suffer from Karma like that. When severe pain torments you, the doctor gives you a pain killer injection and you do not feel the pain, though it is there in the body. God’s Grace is like the pain-killer. Nothing can stay in the way of the Grace of the Lord. If you win His Grace, you will not feel the pain, though you go through Karma. Just as medicines with expired dates are ineffective, so too, the effect of Karma is then rendered ineffective, or null and void!
- Sri Sathya Sai Baba
- Divine Discourse, Nov 23, 1964.
 
Last edited:
Prayer has no power to change anything. By calming the mind, we can come to the realization. The Bhakti Marg, which in my opinion is borrowed from the Abrahamic religion, I Sanatan Dharma, states that there is no meeting your maker after death. So you do not have to praise or pray.

Karma and samsara

Karma translates literally as action, work, or deed, and also refers to a Vedic theory of "moral law of cause and effect". The theory is a combination of (1) causality which may be ethical or non-ethical; (2) ethicization, that is good or bad actions have consequences; and (3) rebirth. Karma theory is interpreted as explaining the present circumstances of an individual concerning his or her actions in the past. These actions may be those in a person's current life, or, in some schools of Hinduism, possibly actions in their past lives; furthermore, the consequences may result in current life or a person's future lives. This cycle of birth, life, death, and rebirth is called samsara. Liberation from samsara through moksha is believed to ensure lasting happiness and peace. Hindu scriptures teach that the future is both a function of current human effort derived from free will and past human actions that set the circumstances.

Moksha
The ultimate goal of life, referred to as moksha, nirvana or samadhi, is understood in several different ways: as the realization of one's union with God; as the realization of one's eternal relationship with God; the realization of the unity of all existence; perfect unselfishness and knowledge of the Self; as the attainment of perfect mental peace; and as detachment from worldly desires. Such realization liberates one from samsara, thereby ending the cycle of rebirth, sorrow, and suffering. Due to belief in the indestructibility of the soul, death is deemed insignificant for the cosmic self.

The meaning of moksha differs among the various Hindu schools of thought. For example, Advaita Vedanta holds that after attaining moksha a person knows their "soul, self" and identifies it as one with Brahman and everyone in all respects.

Prayer can change ourselves.
It changes our thought waves if done sincerely.
Yes, it calms the mind..and in that calmer mind we make better choices and behave better.
But this ONLY works if we are willing to introspect and realize our faults and short comings.

Then we do see we get guidance and signals from any direction and through anyone.
 
Prayer has no power to change anything. By calming the mind, we can come to the realization. The Bhakti Marg, which in my opinion is borrowed from the Abrahamic religion, I Sanatan Dharma, states that there is no meeting your maker after death. So you do not have to praise or pray.

Karma and samsara

Karma translates literally as action, work, or deed, and also refers to a Vedic theory of "moral law of cause and effect". The theory is a combination of (1) causality which may be ethical or non-ethical; (2) ethicization, that is good or bad actions have consequences; and (3) rebirth. Karma theory is interpreted as explaining the present circumstances of an individual concerning his or her actions in the past. These actions may be those in a person's current life, or, in some schools of Hinduism, possibly actions in their past lives; furthermore, the consequences may result in current life or a person's future lives. This cycle of birth, life, death, and rebirth is called samsara. Liberation from samsara through moksha is believed to ensure lasting happiness and peace. Hindu scriptures teach that the future is both a function of current human effort derived from free will and past human actions that set the circumstances.

Moksha
The ultimate goal of life, referred to as moksha, nirvana or samadhi, is understood in several different ways: as the realization of one's union with God; as the realization of one's eternal relationship with God; the realization of the unity of all existence; perfect unselfishness and knowledge of the Self; as the attainment of perfect mental peace; and as detachment from worldly desires. Such realization liberates one from samsara, thereby ending the cycle of rebirth, sorrow, and suffering. Due to belief in the indestructibility of the soul, death is deemed insignificant for the cosmic self.

The meaning of moksha differs among the various Hindu schools of thought. For example, Advaita Vedanta holds that after attaining moksha a person knows their "soul, self" and identifies it as one with Brahman and everyone in all respects.

I am not 100% sure if Bhakti marg was due to Abrahamic influences.
But I cant deny it either.
But feeling the God factor and singing in His glory works well for me.
 
hi

bhakti is one way of worship....karma is also worship.....karma can't change ....but god woeship can give

mental satisfaction as well as karma effect may little positive change....like medicine can reduce

pain...bhakthi marg in bhagavad gita......may be before abhrahamic religions....in my opinion...
 

Latest ads

Back
Top