Who is Komalavalli?Really???
How about Komalavalli?
Renukaji, Agree with your above post except this statement. Many Brahmins and same goes true for other communities , who have got their brain rigged by the sanghis, do not follow any ethics. They indulge in unethical practices in businesses and corporates and govt as their mind no longer has the ability to discern any karma or right vs wrong. They are driven purely by emotions of hatred and anger.
Most of the people who are mind rigged don't even know it is a sanghi project designed to fill the minds with hatred against Muslims. This is exactly similar to how the taliban mind rigs its fighters, whose minds a re filled with hatred and anger. The only job is,to spew hatred and attack Muslims and Christians.
That's why, how much ever you argue with them that killing an innocent 21 yr old tabrez is morally, ethically and karmically wrong, it does not change their mind. For them, all these are collateral damages, in their war to teach a lesson to muslims for what happened during Ghazni war and Mughal rule. Rediculous but unfortunately true.
That's what this mind rigging does...removes karma, removes right vs wrong, removes compassion, removes forgiveness, removes human values. You cannot make out when you talk to them normally, but strongly disagree with them no their views, you will see the vicious hatred, anger and vengeance. Like we see in this very forum.
Are you aware that most 'sanghis' in tamilnadu are nadar, vanniyar, konar, and goundar?? i.e., the exact same group that helped keep chettiar-mudaliar-pillai (Dravidian) politics and it's hate alive.Renukaji, Agree with your above post except this statement. Many Brahmins and same goes true for other communities , who have got their brain rigged by the sanghis, do not follow any ethics. They indulge in unethical practices in businesses and corporates and govt as their mind no longer has the ability to discern any karma or right vs wrong. They are driven purely by emotions of hatred and anger.
Most of the people who are mind rigged don't even know it is a sanghi project designed to fill the minds with hatred against Muslims. This is exactly similar to how the taliban mind rigs its fighters, whose minds a re filled with hatred and anger. The only job is,to spew hatred and attack Muslims and Christians.
That's why, how much ever you argue with them that killing an innocent 21 yr old tabrez is morally, ethically and karmically wrong, it does not change their mind. For them, all these are collateral damages, in their war to teach a lesson to muslims for what happened during Ghazni war and Mughal rule. Rediculous but unfortunately true.
That's what this mind rigging does...removes karma, removes right vs wrong, removes compassion, removes forgiveness, removes human values. You cannot make out when you talk to them normally, but strongly disagree with them no their views, you will see the vicious hatred, anger and vengeance. Like we see in this very forum.
purchi thalaiviWho is Komalavalli?
No idea who you are talking about.purchi thalaivi
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Non indian like i aslo know whom he mentioning . By the way the another title is AmmaNo idea who you are talking about.
What a sad way to think! When any quality is stated, it is based on high statistical index based and not to find the 5% exception such as Komalavalli? When her sari was pulled, did any Brahmin rush to help her. Also, this type of argument is supporting one's own prejudices. The question should be, is this a significant trait or not. There was a Harijan nandanar who was admitted directly into Chidabram but why not one of the Dhishitars? Does this mean, every one is Nandanar in his clan? Personal likes and dislikes here should be avoided in general discussion in the forum, otherwise only "yes" men will be forum members. Sorry, I should not have provoked "Yes" group, but not to express is also a sin. After all Hinduism allowed both Baktha and Nastika whom GOD does not discriminate (as told to us by our elders and literature).Really???
How about Komalavalli?
I agree with you. But there are no groups here. I am an equal opportunity (offender) presenter of my opinions. I expect to be challenged by others as long as they are civil discourses.What a sad way to think! When any quality is stated, it is based on high statistical index based and not to find the 5% exception such as Komalavalli? When her sari was pulled, did any Brahmin rush to help her. Also, this type of argument is supporting one's own prejudices. The question should be, is this a significant trait or not. There was a Harijan nandanar who was admitted directly into Chidabram but why not one of the Dhishitars? Does this mean, every one is Nandanar in his clan? Personal likes and dislikes here should be avoided in general discussion in the forum, otherwise only "yes" men will be forum members. Sorry, I should not have provoked "Yes" group, but not to express is also a sin. After all Hinduism allowed both Baktha and Nastika whom GOD does not discriminate (as told to us by our elders and literature).
Dear Sravna,Intelligence is of different types. Brahmins excel in higher thinking both because of their genes and tradition. While westerners are gifted in creativity and far East people with analytical thinking.
Higher thinking skills are the least appreciated and applied but are powerful enough to be used to create the results of analytical and creative thinking. That's the reason Brahmins shine in research and academia and other areas requiring thinking skills in spite of their special higher thinking skills not being required.
The grasp of spiritual truths as in the Vedas and other scriptures exemplify the application of higher thinking skills. The knowledge creation systems of today have no place for them where experimentation and physical evidence rule in the acquisition of knowledge.
If the true intelligence of Brahmins is to be appreciated then something tangible, physical and of practical utility needs to emerge out of it. Till then the superlative works of higher thinking and the real skills of Brahmins will remain unnoticed.
Non indian like i aslo know whom he mentioning . By the way the another title is Amma.
Ok..thanks for info.Non indian like i aslo know whom he mentioning . By the way the another title is Amma
Business and risk taking takes place over a long time. If you look at the history of Brahmins liberated , it is less than 100 years. Also, trying to be happy over spending all time to earn money , die leaving a pile of money - family coffer for future generation for bootstrapping takes time to mature. Also, one should learn the art of bribing without getting caught. I knew one person(he died a few years back) told me what should be done to cheat Income and Sales tax people. So, those who are starting business are learning those skills and in a few years they will amaze money and power. That is not good for the society. That instead of sharing knowledge an uplifting the whole society it goes to their own dynasty. Look (if we believe in story) a Brahmins Paramour, to avenge a few killed several generations of Kshatriyas, which Kshatriyas doing to others. Brahman Gods, Brahmins Kings ( a few in the North) in general will not be good.Every Tamil brahmin take pride on high educational qualifications and ability to perform in high paying jobs in MNC.
Most brahmins would like to be advisers or consultants with stable income .Not many would like to set up or own companies. They are averse to take risks for professional growth
They can only be number two in company .
Similarly Tamils take pride in tamil culture whatever it might mean to them.
TB are no different from other communities or castes.No reason to feel superior or inferior.
They need to accept the new realities where intermediate castes have become theruling class and they have to go to other states and countries for better living
Without offense, “ V.Rajagopalan Iyengar, Bangalore (Australia)- Retd. Nuclear Scientist, Govt. of India” in your observation, what is the purpose? Is it: very clear of their own convictions and have tremendous skill to defend their points. This is actually called as “Intelligence”-ability to transform acquired knowledge in time and justify an action or reaction. Can I call it as debate-skill? What’s shrewdness than? It’s also a part of Intelligence. What’s cunningness? .I don't thinks so. This last statement you have added is not for ego satisfication or to claim authority. That is habit of being a retired Govt. Employee. Thus, when we share in a forum, it is to see if we have understood the true meaning of what was taught to us. Historical events when written, do not say “what did they actually mean”. If they have done, why Shankara, Ramanaujam Buddha and others have write treaties and Bhashayas on well knwon(?) or well understood facts on “GOD or Atma or Rituals”? The meaning got lost along the line.Jai Sri Ram
OMG! From the questions and answers, remarks and comments, it’s very clear that all are very clear of their own convictions and have tremendous skill to defend their points. This is actually called as “Intelligence”-ability to transform acquired knowledge in time and justify an action or reaction. Can I call it as debate-skill? What’s shrewdness than? It’s also a part of Intelligence. What’s cunningness? Can I include this also a survival strategy in a competitive materialistic world. If, yes, than these skills of intelligence are needed for becoming so called “rich” and to run or lead one to the listed tops of “Business-riches”. I am convinced (may not be able to convince others) that intelligent need not be an intellectual. To my limited knowledge after reading, practicing great Veda and Upanishadam, our Acharyas (unfortunately Brahmins and Brahminism are misused and mis-interpreted - an evolved culture, essentially not of any clan, else there won’t be Valmiki or many Aazwars or Viswamithra) always said intelligent one can become any time but difficult to become an intellectual and that too spiritually evolved intellectual, who never bothers to acquire more than needed wealth or materialistic things but bother for the overall healthy harmonious living of human being and other creations (no killing of moving life, else immediately some one say DrJC Bose proved plants have life) of nature/god. The one who practice these concepts or learn or preach with dharma is called “Brahmin” and the concept is called broadly “Brahminism”. So anyone can become a Sri Vaishnava-as Sri Ramanujacharya preached and practiced way back 1000AD it self. If so, how a true Brahmin or who try to follow (generation after generation, may be called as ritualism) can be in the so-called “Materialistic Rich” list? Why he should be? If one believes in supreme almighty than Veda says “One should evolve as a human from an ignorant to knowledgeable to intelligent to intellectual and finally enlightened” and try to get salvation from this vicious cycle of life and death, flesh & blood, etc. Therefore, to conclude, in my opinion, no creation (any life) on this earth is inferior or superior to any co-existing species and mere ignorance (as stated above by me) makes one to to live in the world of illusion called “Maya”. All creations are equally good (I won’t say equally bad) and beautiful. Let us have the real eyes with true wisdom to see the beauty and enjoy life with harmony, in the name of Lord Narayana or any god one believe. Have trust on him, he will show the true path of salvation. May god bless all. V.Rajagopalan Iyengar, Bangalore (Australia)- Retd. Nuclear Scientist, Govt. of India.
NB: Please excuse me for any stressed word or expression.
Dear Renuka,Dear Sravna,
As much as your post is fine, I do not think " higher thinking" is limited to any one specific community.
A lot of Brazilian doctors are pioneers in many new surgical procedures.
Even the Surgery for Tetralogy of Fallot, the pioneer was not even a doctor but an African American janitor who just knew what should be done and he also got imput from dreams..he finally became a doctor but the sugery he pioneered was when he was a janitor.
You have to understand, Brahmins are intellectually oriented as that is their rice bowl and its also because the community enviroment views intelligence as a chudamani and lack of intelligence is worse than poverty.
Other communities in the past didnt value education because they owned tons of land and were always having a secure rice bowl.
Others who were poor didnt have means to study.
Now trends are changing and everyone values education.
So you would see many capable of anything.
Coming to grasping spiritual truth, that too actually does not need "higher thinking".
In fact thinking itself is a major hindrance..its unlearning which enables us to perceive the revelations which flashes to us.
We mistake Rishis to be scientist that analysed everything related to spirituality.
Rishis were scientists in science no doubt but in grasping Reality, they knew they had to delete all browsing data of knowledge in their mind, clear the cache and be in a state of Being, a mind sans waves of knowledge..only then Jnaana is revealed.
There is a difference between knowledge and jnaana.
Jnaana is not knowledge.
Jnaana is revelations that is revealed to those who have mastered the art of unlearning.
Even Bhagawan Ramana Maharishi had mentioned that unlearning leads to realization.
Dear Sravna,
As much as your post is fine, I do not think " higher thinking" is limited to any one specific community.
A lot of Brazilian doctors are pioneers in many new surgical procedures.
Even the Surgery for Tetralogy of Fallot, the pioneer was not even a doctor but an African American janitor who just knew what should be done and he also got imput from dreams..he finally became a doctor but the sugery he pioneered was when he was a janitor.
You have to understand, Brahmins are intellectually oriented as that is their rice bowl and its also because the community enviroment views intelligence as a chudamani and lack of intelligence is worse than poverty.
Other communities in the past didnt value education because they owned tons of land and were always having a secure rice bowl.
Others who were poor didnt have means to study.
Now trends are changing and everyone values education.
So you would see many capable of anything.
Coming to grasping spiritual truth, that too actually does not need "higher thinking".
In fact thinking itself is a major hindrance..its unlearning which enables us to perceive the revelations which flashes to us.
We mistake Rishis to be scientist that analysed everything related to spirituality.
Rishis were scientists in science no doubt but in grasping Reality, they knew they had to delete all browsing data of knowledge in their mind, clear the cache and be in a state of Being, a mind sans waves of knowledge..only then Jnaana is revealed.
There is a difference between knowledge and jnaana.
Jnaana is not knowledge.
Jnaana is revelations that is revealed to those who have mastered the art of unlearning.
Even Bhagawan Ramana Maharishi had mentioned that unlearning leads to realization.
Dear Sravna,Dear Renuka,
Yes you are correct. Brahmins focus on education played a great role for them being in the forefront of knowledge acquisition. As you say this is changing now.
I would like to make one thing clear. Inspite of using the word "higher" as in higher thinking I do not imply it is superior to other types of thinking. Creative and analytical thinking all play pivotal roles too in knowledge acquisition and are equally precious.
I am only saying as there are different types of people there are different types of thinking. All lead ultimately to the same truths because truths are the same.
What do you think?
Dear Sravna,Dear Renuka,
I understand the gist of your post that every thing finally evolves to be the same. But changes in thinking won't happen fast and differences exist in the physical universe with a purpose. That purpose is exactly to learn from one another and reach a unified state.
So till differences exist which will be for a long time we have to learn to coexist. Emphasis on how in essence there is equality of all people has to be made.
What you see is the goal but the process will take its course till then.
Given each one's limitation as a human there would be no learning if there are no differences.