dear sangom,
re your post #6
i am not so sure, about corruption, especially monetary embezzlement kind, in our organizations.
there is a basic level of honesty and decency among our community. and barring n.srinivasan of ipl most of our community is straightforward and clean. i think so.
right from the lowly clerk to the ceo, as functionaries, take pride, as i have seen, in a very active ayyappa samajam, years ago. except, that the ceo, by virtue of his rank and position in society, automatically asssumes leadership and the clerk, takes orders
there is also a level of autocracy ie even though there may be formal bodies which resemble a democratic environment, a clique usually assumes control, and will wish everything done their way. or no way. my mother used to say, that the underhand politics of the said ayyappa samajam, would make indira gandhi's antcs pale into insignificance.. and all for the greater glory of god.
personally, i think there has been no need for an umbrella caste based organization for us - mainly because there is no desperate want. one only has to look at the original nadar sangam under nesamoni - the nadars were dirt poor as a community, low in rank like the vanniars of northern tamil nadu and with no hope of upward mobility.
part conversion of xtianity (esp from kanyakumari nagercoil), encouragement from kamaraj and above all willingness to work hard - in my days nadar provison and coffee Shops used to mushroom in every new corner of the then expanding madras. Today they are a very prosperous community (dowries are a norm, and run into eye raising crores for a well educated groom), politically powerful thanks to their numbers. And they have more than a dozen nadar sangams at loggerheads with each other.
Same goes for the gounder community though these were prosperous since the early 1900s.
Whereas the still poor and dirt poor vanniars, are still under a single flag of dr ramadoss only because they have not made much headway. In light of recent assault on dalits by vanniars, there has been a lot of analysis as to the poor status of the vanniars in tamil nadu and why they could/did not emulate the nadars en route to prosperity.
The consensus appears – dr ramadoss failed as a leader. His greed and family interest superseded his love of his community. He was doing good work – with a vanniar college etc. whereas the nadars pooled their money and started a bank to finance their small businesses, the vanniars entered politics, and with that came the downfall.
They simply cannot match up with the dalits, form whom, there is still collective guilt over the treatment meeted out to them, and thanks to govt help sections of dalits have moved up economically, and thus igniting jealousy among the vanniars, which has led to violence.
All this is irrelevant for the tambrams as even the poorest among us, has clothing, food and roof. Once upon a time we used to pity the cooks, but judging from this forum, a Brahmin cook if he/she so desires can make upto 1000 rupees a day.
The only good campaign, which Brahmins might find solidarity with the vanniars, is against love jihads whereas the vanniars have accused only the dalits of ‘spoiling’ their girls, we tambrams can carry on our fight against the whole NB crowd, for putting our bachelors in a marriageless plight. Any takers?