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Will religion ever disappear

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The topic is interesting and is bound to kindle our emotions! We are in Kali yuga..Irreligiosity, agnosticism, atheism and hatred for God is bound to rise! As per various Hindu saints deceit, falsehood, lethargy, sleepiness, violence, despondency, grief, delusion, fear, and poverty shall prevail in Kali Yuga. However spiritual salvation is possible in this Yuga by surrendering to God. Other religions too proclaim the benefits of praying to God


Atheists are growing across the board from Japan to European countries to traditional religious societies such as Brazil & Ireland. However this surmise falls flat in USA where the religious population is growing. It is noticed that when natural disaster strikes or where there is poverty religion thrives..Fear plays an important role

Author delves into psychological, neurological, historical, cultural and logistical reasons for belief in God..One point which I disagree with him is his explanation that fertile societies are more religious compared to less fertile ones..How about India where fertility is reduced artificially but religioisty among Indians have not reduced in that proportion

Will religion ever disappear?

19 Dec 2014

Atheism is on the rise around the world, so does that mean spirituality will soon be a thing of the past? Rachel Nuwer discovers that the answer is far from simple.


A growing number of people, millions worldwide, say they believe that life definitively ends at death – that there is no God, no afterlife and no divine plan. And it’s an outlook that could be gaining momentum – despite its lack of cheer. In some countries, openly acknowledged atheism has never been more popular.

“There’s absolutely more atheists around today than ever before, both in sheer numbers and as a percentage of humanity,” says Phil Zuckerman, a professor of sociology and secular studies at Pitzer College in Claremont, California, and author of Living the Secular Life. According to a Gallup International survey of more than 50,000 people in 57 countries, the number of individuals claiming to be religious fell from 77% to 68% between 2005 and 2011, while those who self-identified as atheist rose by 3% – bringing the world’s estimated proportion of adamant non-believers to 13%.


While atheists certainly are not the majority, could it be that these figures are a harbinger of things to come? Assuming global trends continue might religion someday disappear entirely?
It’s impossible to predict the future, but examining what we know about religion – including why it evolved in the first place, and why some people chose to believe in it and others abandon it – can hint at how our relationship with the divine might play out in decades or centuries to come.

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BBC - Future - Will religion ever disappear?
 
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It would be nice to have a World No Religion Day that is for One day the whole world should not pray and lets see how humans handle it...just 1 day.
 
Excellent post.

Liked the lines'humans need comfort in the face of pain and suffering and many may need to think there is more left after

life and they are loved by an invisible being.there will always be people who believe in god and would not be surprised if

they are in majority'. How true.

Personally I am not much of a believer . perhaps an unforeseen calamity is required to change my mindset
 
Personally I am not much of a believer . perhaps an unforeseen calamity is required to change my mindset

LOL! This is not fair!

It is better to be an atheist than to make use of God when we are in trouble and forget Him otherwise.

Its either you pray or you dont..one cant leave options open to pray if needed!LOL
 
Upto now I have not felt the need to think of God

If someone threatens to execute me for my lack of belief , Well What do you expect me to do.?renukaji

I value my life a little more than my belief

of course, it depends on the circumstances one is faced with in future. I am talking common sense.lol
 
It is a mystery the number of atheists in all religions.

Kali Yuga is applicable only to the specific sect of Hinduism.

Now, religion becomes a product; and each religion has its peculiar characteristics. Unless the product is totally outdated, the usage will continue. Similarly, religion as a product will remain in the minds of majority of people. The end may take a very long time.
 
Not all celebrate so called world days, valentine, father or vegetarian day. Why should one celebrate no religion day.

It would be nice to have a World No Religion Day that is for One day the whole world should not pray and lets see how humans handle it...just 1 day.
 
ISIS has already explicitly stated that all religions except the other two abrahamic type and those that preach democracy are to be wiped out. Choices are limited.

Upto now I have not felt the need to think of God

If someone threatens to execute me for my lack of belief , Well What do you expect me to do.?renukaji

I value my life a little more than my belief

of course, it depends on the circumstances one is faced with in future. I am talking common sense.lol
 
New religions will be always found because it is some 'entrepreneurs' business. 95% politicians rely on religion 90% businessmen and 85% cinema and media make a living to consume 100% of "aam aadmi".
 
'Will religion ever disappear'?

Probably not! Even if others disappear, Vedas which are 'anAdi' will persist. And ithihasas such as 'Ramayana' too, as they have been blessed to last till the Sun and the Moon last...

But, it is believed widely that when Kaliyuga progresses, those who have faith in religion will diminish gradually in number to a final few.
 
Atheist inside and a theist outside is a good approach.

That would be hypocrisy, Sir, whereas the 'ulta' combination, that is, Theist inside and Atheist outside would be ideal... Even Sri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa thinks so, "Never reveal your true love and devotion (namely bhakti) to god, and never reveal your devotional practices to anyone, for there are 'thieves' who are ready to rob you of this virtue!". I have read this long ago in a book on Sri Ramakrishna's sayings.
 
That would be hypocrisy, Sir, whereas the 'ulta' combination, that is, Theist inside and Atheist outside would be ideal... Even Sri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa thinks so, "Never reveal your true love and devotion (namely bhakti) to god, and never reveal your devotional practices to anyone, for there are 'thieves' who are ready to rob you of this virtue!". I have read this long ago in a book on Sri Ramakrishna's sayings.

By that logic, madam, life itself is a game of hypocrisy, in a way since there is birth and death, joy and sorrow, ups and downs. It is only when there are equal opposites that a balance arises. It is universal logic - after the expansion of the universe, comes the contraction.

So I see no hypocrisy in my statement.

With due respect, I need not go by what Ramakrishna thinks on this subject. It is for every individual to contemplate and come to a decision, if it is possible to do so.

Regards,
 
religion imbibes certain amount of decipline which is reqd to lead good human life. I wish we shud have religion - srinivasan
 
Atheist inside and a theist outside is a good approach.

LOL!

How is that possible? Wont that need tremendous amount of perfect acting?

But I feel that is a better approach that being "truthful" becos being truthful you might get weird responses from others for example...

Yesterday was Christmas eve and out here people wish Christians Merry Christmas.


One elderly Indian Christian lady asked me:"Do you celebrate X'mas?"

Then I replied "No I do not"

She then said "Oh? You do not?..Then what do you celebrate?"

I replied 'Well.. technically nothing"

She became surprised "What? Nothing? OMG?"

Then I thought Ok..this will never end and told her "Merry Christmas to you and have fun"

She then stood there surprised and said 'Thanks..Ok At least I will wish you a Happy New Year"


So you see I was thinking this person really wanted to know my religion and was confused why I said I never celebrate any festival..I was being honest to her and she only seemed surprised.
 
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religion imbibes certain amount of decipline which is reqd to lead good human life. I wish we shud have religion - srinivasan

Prison too imbibes certain amount of discipline which is required to lead a good human life once released from prison.

I wish we should have prisons!LOL


So you see anything strictly enforced by Draconian rules instills discipline via fear as its substratum.

That is not entirely good cos most of the while its just a front..no one knows their true nature as long they adhere to rules and regulation.

We only know our nature when we are totally free from shackles of the religious prison.
 
.. Even Sri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa thinks so, "Never reveal your true love and devotion (namely bhakti) to god, and never reveal your devotional practices to anyone, for there are 'thieves' who are ready to rob you of this virtue!". I have read this long ago in a book on Sri Ramakrishna's sayings.

dear JR,

I am surprised to read this saying of RK Paramhansa.

I thought He had always displayed His Bhakti in a very open manner.

In fact I read that His Bhaktas were always afraid that if RK would just hear the mention of the name Rama itself He would get into an ecstatic state and would start dancing in Bhakti.


BTW I do not really feel we need to be one thing inside and one thing outside..all we need is to remain silent and not let anyone know what we are..keep others guessing!LOL
 
dear JR,

I am surprised to read this saying of RK Paramhansa.

I thought He had always displayed His Bhakti in a very open manner.

In fact I read that His Bhaktas were always afraid that if RK would just hear the mention of the name Rama itself He would get into an ecstatic state and would start dancing in Bhakti.


BTW I do not really feel we need to be one thing inside and one thing outside..all we need is to remain silent and not let anyone know what we are..keep others guessing!LOL
I thought you are the most transparent person in the world.lol

we know what all you do not want/like

every sentence begins with no and challenges everyone

I would find it difficult to accept you are a silent person.

no need to guess where you stand on any issue.....
 
I would find it difficult to accept you are a silent person.

no need to guess where you stand on any issue.....

Dear Krish ji,

When I said I am conservative no one believed me.Now when I am saying that I am a silent person ..you are not believing me.LOL
 
By that logic, madam, life itself is a game of hypocrisy, in a way since there is birth and death, joy and sorrow, ups and downs. It is only when there are equal opposites that a balance arises. It is universal logic - after the expansion of the universe, comes the contraction.

So I see no hypocrisy in my statement.

With due respect, I need not go by what Ramakrishna thinks on this subject. It is for every individual to contemplate and come to a decision, if it is possible to do so.

Regards,

Dear Sir,

My thought as in my previous reply to you came by only as an offshoot of your reply. It was just a funny musing over the 2 different types of personalities - those that say they do not believe in god but really do, and those that say that believe in god and do not in reality. I did not mean to say you are being hypocritical, I meant any person who behaves in these manners are. Anyway I enjoyed your novel thought. And sorry if my intentions were not clear from my post.

Best regards.
 
dear JR,

I am surprised to read this saying of RK Paramhansa.

I thought He had always displayed His Bhakti in a very open manner.

In fact I read that His Bhaktas were always afraid that if RK would just hear the mention of the name Rama itself He would get into an ecstatic state and would start dancing in Bhakti.


BTW I do not really feel we need to be one thing inside and one thing outside..all we need is to remain silent and not let anyone know what we are..keep others guessing!LOL

I am sure his sayings are meant for common folk.

The reason he says what I quoted in my post was that for common folk whose bhakti is emerging, it has to be guarded safely and away from skeptics, atheists and other trouble-makers, otherwise people would find it very hard to hold on to their faith and belief and keep growing spiritually.

Whereas the established like himself, do not need to fear any such loss of faith, as they have seen and experienced godhead and therefore can demonstrate (bhakti) in front of others too (at the capacity of an acharya) so that others will be inspired.

This was the explanation given in the book.
 
I am sure his sayings are meant for common folk.

The reason he says what I quoted in my post was that for common folk whose bhakti is emerging, it has to be guarded safely and away from skeptics, atheists and other trouble-makers, otherwise people would find it very hard to hold on to their faith and belief and keep growing spiritually.

Whereas the established like himself, do not need to fear any such loss of faith, as they have seen and experienced godhead and therefore can demonstrate (bhakti) in front of others too (at the capacity of an acharya) so that others will be inspired.

This was the explanation given in the book.

Dear JR,

I dont know..but I feel what is there to fear?

Cos losing faith or gaining faith is purely up to us.

Having or losing faith is totally a personal decision.

To a great extent humans only influence each other for the good or for the bad.

A religious person might influence someone to be religious and a non religious person might influence someone to be non religious..so both in my opinion are the same.


There is no need to be afraid of even losing faith in God...even if we lose faith..what can happen?

May be it was meant to be lost to gain a deeper understanding about God.

Those who have fear and adhere too much to rules have no faith in the real sense.
 
LOL!

How is that possible? Wont that need tremendous amount of perfect acting?
Why should it not be possible? Your question has an implicit assumption that somehow this is difficult. Why so?

But I feel that is a better approach that being "truthful" becos being truthful you might get weird responses from others...

What is "truth" (in the context of our discussion) and why should we be truthful?

LOL
 
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