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Will you be able to stop buying Silk Sarees?

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Dear Amala,

For Ram's 60th birthday, I bought three aparNa poly silk - nine and half yards sarees - one for dhAnam, a simple one (Rs. 400) and

a grand one (Rs. 700) for myself. I bought same type six yards sarees with rich 'pallu' as gifts to the ladies of close circle! For my

son's wedding also both nine yards were the same type and I stitched the inner portion of the 'madisAr' with three and quarter yards

and left six and quarter yards - the wrap around portion - so that I can use the saree both as 'madisAr' and normal saree! :thumb:

P.S: Now a days, stitched 'madisAr' (!) is made to order and also available ready made! I posted one youtube link earlier in another thread!
 

If silk saree production comes to an abrupt halt, the whole industry will be hit and many weavers will find it hard to win their bread!

They could learn to weave with polyester threads but since machine made sarees are flooding the market, I wonder whether the

handlooms could compete with them! The 'ahimsA' silk has many short silk threads attached with knots and so the sarees do not

have a smooth finish. So, silk saree production will never come to a halt! When animals and birds are slaughtered mercilessly for

food and other purposes, not many will care about killing worms! :dizzy:
 
Raji Ram said:

When animals and birds are slaughtered mercilessly for

food and other purposes, not many will care about killing worms! :dizzy:
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Exactly, Shmt. Raji Ram. That's what surprises me a lot..

Many including Brahmins are crazy about KFC (Fried Chickens) and many other Meat and See foods. Definitely the staste of these food must be awesome otherwise of which a larg population on the Earth would not be non-vegetarian.

When people can eat non-vegetarian food (that is only by killing the living species) to enjoy the taste, will any one feel about mass murder of silk worms?

May be people who are vegetarians would choose to refrain from using Silk Saree and go for Poly Silk and definitely the deniel by this small group of people would not effect the Silk Saree production, killing silk worms.
 
Greetings.

Consumption of non-vegetarian food just for taste is just lame. Only when people eat almost raw meat, one can experience different taste for different meat. But if they are going to be cooked with spices, they all taste almost same anyway.

Further more, i can cook tandoori, pepper, butter and various different tastes with humble potato. Of course, it takes bit of cooking, bit of marnating and bit of spicing when cooking potato on stove top or in the oven or both.

Cheers1
 
amala said:
Dear mama may i ask what sari did the bride wear and also koora pudavai etc? if not silk then?
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Sowbagyavathy Amala, Greetings.

I think she bought poly silk. Just one koorai saree. Her uncle bought one silk saree. She wore that during oonjal. The rest were either designer sarees or gagraa cholis. I only bought 'naar pattu'.. that was not from silk worms. We got pretty good designs and patterns.. good quality and pricy too. Nobody complained.... hope they all were happy!

Cheers!
 
Padmanabhan Janakiraman said:
“Ahimsa” – or “nonviolent” – mulberry silk, a alternate to Silk Sarees



Ahimsa silk by Gopinath CEO skp silk sarees kanchipuram - YouTube


Ahimsa Silk: Taking the Violence Out of Silk - India Real Time - WSJ
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Mr. Pj,
Have you stopped travelling by airplane? When an airplane flies, it sucks in millions of living organism and kills them. In our day to day life we kill life forms again and again.
So ahimsa does not mean that you do not kill, it only means do as little harm as possible. In that respect it is a relative word and not a definitive word.
 
prasad1 said:
The same Sankaracharya does not discourage us from wearing Deerskin, Or leather wallets, or using cowhide in Temple drums.
So please be consistant. My opinion is that we can not eliminate using or killing some life forms. Let us try to minimise it. Let us practice what we preach, not not lecture others, as to how they should lead their life.

None of us have any merit to talk against the advice of Maha periyava 's teachings and advices
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prasad1 said:
The same Sankaracharya does not discourage us from wearing Deerskin, Or leather wallets, or using cowhide in Temple drums.
So please be consistant. My opinion is that we can not eliminate using or killing some life forms. Let us try to minimise it. Let us practice what we preach, not not lecture others, as to how they should lead their life.

http://www.tamilbrahmins.com/general-discussions/3376-leather.html#post34939
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None of us have any merit to talk against the advice and teachings of Maha Periya.
 
Mr. PJ Sir,
Instead of hiding behind "some" Guru and Godman, please discuss the topic as two human beings.
You are the one dragged some one special to you. When Arjuna can question Krishna, or Vali can question Rama, how do you state that we can not question Maha perivav. That is the main problem of the religion. Kena upanished states that we can question everything, but the later day so called leaders do not understand Sanatan Dharma and hide behind the vail like the "wizard".
We need a Toto opens a curtain, revealing the Wizard to be nothing more than an ordinary man.

A guru is a Sanskrit term for "teacher" or "master". If there is master of Sanatan Dharma that person must know it all, and should not be afraid of questions of mere mortals.
 
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Going beyond the moral objections of killing something, one should also talk about the environmental impact of using animal products, whether for eating or wearing. As Mr. Prasad said, there may not be a way to avoid squelching an ant under your foot, but when we are able to make conscious choices, perhaps it is better to choose a route that has the least environmental impact.

Breeding dogs and cats for their aesthetic value (as well as having many children) also falls on the borderline IMHO.
 
biswa said:
......... Breeding dogs and cats for their aesthetic value (as well as having many children) also falls on the borderline IMHO.
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Dear Sir,

My sister in law's daughter had a rodent as her pet. It was stinking but she used to play with her pet! :dizzy:
 
Ahimsa (Peace) Silk


Why I Think it Doesn't Add Up

I think that Ahimsa Silk doesn't really equal non-violence to insects, once you understand the process and do the math. I think that a lot of vegans and vegetarians want to find a way to rationalize using silk - I can certainly understand wanting to wear silk, it's a wonderful fiber, and none of the synthetics even come close. The thing that many people don't do, is look carefully at how the whole system works. If some vegetarians make the determination that it's OK to let the living eggs dry out and die, or ignore the fact that the caterpillars will starve, then that's their business. That's a moral question, and it's not my morality.
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Ahimsa, or Peace Silk

Mr. Michael Cook of wormspit.com questions the peacefulness of peace silk. He writes that when the all of the number of silk moths required to produce textiles are allowed to hatch, the resulting population is not sustainable, and millions of eggs and newly hatched caterpillars die from a combination of dessication and starvation. He suggests looking beyond the marketing terms like “wildcrafted” which may simply be putting a feel-good spin on traditionally farmed silk.
 
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Dear Prasad Sir,

Your post reminds me of a story that I head when I was young. A sage gets upset by the way small animals are hunted and killed by

the bigger ones for food. He pleads to all the animals to become vegetarians and they too agree. Soon, the whole forest runs short of

fruits and herbs. The animals then march towards the villages and start consuming the fruits and vegetables grown by the people.

It forces the people to run to the sage and request him to advise the animals to go back to their usual way of life and save the humans

from starvation that they expect soon!

So, there is a balance created by God and we should not go against it. If silk worms are NOT to be killed, then better NOT produce

them in farms.
 
One retailer actually tallies up the percentages of "peace" silk in some yarns - say, half of it is reeling waste and a quarter of it is breeder cocoons, making a yarn 75% "peace"- if that makes you happy, that's fine, but personally, I think it's mathematical sleight-of-hand to justify a high sale price for second-tier yarns. In China, Tussah pupae are also a source of food for many people, and the moths (particularly the male ones) are used in Traditional Chinese Medicine. There are some companies in India making "Ahimsa" silk using cocoons that have hatched for breeding - but nearly every one of that moth's offspring are killed for reeling. Again, I don't see how that makes the hatched cocoons morally superior to the others - they're part of the same agricultural system. It's like only taking milk from female cows that are kept to breed beef cattle.

In Nepal they tie all 4 hoofs of a goat, and let it die of starvation so they can have ahimsa meat. It is all slight of hand.

Jains do not root crop as it kills worms, but all farming kills.
Jains also are big in diamond industry, which exploits human labor, it is ok to exploit humans and save worms?
 
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I agree that every time we walk also we kill hundreds of bacterias etc, we should try our best to live doing,least harm.
 
Padmanabhan Janakiraman said:
I agree that every time we walk also we kill hundreds of bacterias etc, we should try our best to live doing,least harm.
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That is what I have been saying. Non of us can claim that we follow true "ahimsa". We all follow some form of it to varying degree. So none of us is in a position to lecture others because of our belief. But you are absolutely right that we should follow the principle of doing the least harm to other living entities.
 
Padmanabhan Janakiraman said:
I agree that every time we walk also we kill hundreds of bacterias etc, we should try our best to live doing,least harm.
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Dear Sri Padmanabhan,

At personal level,we can certainly avoid wearing garments made out of silk in any form. This will discourage killing of millions of silk-worms. No doubt the wonderful art of silk weaving may be affected. Today many synthetic materials are available to replace use of silk.

Regards,
Brahmanyan,
Bangalore.
 
Brahmanyan said:
......... Today many synthetic materials are available to replace use of silk. ........
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Very true Sir!

Here are a few samples of synthetic sarees which cost between Rs. 400/ to Rs. 650/ only, which is less than a nighty's price!!

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