Yazidis

[Brahmanyan]

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YAZIDIS:
The recent ethnic turmoil in middle east has thrown some interesting information about Yazidis, an ancient non-Muslim Kurdish minority community living in northern Iraq and Syria, whose existence is threatened now. Interestingly the customs and religious beliefs of this small community have many similarities to Hindus.
Further information can be read in the following weblink:

Yazidi and Hindu Similarity | World Hindu News

Brahmanyan,
Bangalore.

 

[sarang]

There are cultural and worship similarities between vedic worship and those practiced in many distant lands. More are coming to light, related to nature worship or ancestral and/or idol worship. Christianity and islam have destroyed most of native religions from these lands by various means. What happened to minorities of diverse faiths in islamic countries in recent times too is known to all but not taken seriously enough. Mass murder, kidnapping, slavery and force conversion is done in a such a large scale, but humanists (aka seculars and human right activists and hindu bashers) see no evil there, but all the abuse and blame is heaped on hindus here.

 

[sangom]

The Mitanni treaty (1380 B.C.) is unmistakeable evidence that the hindu gods were known and were possibly worshipped by the Hittites and the Mitannis. The problem today for our BJP-walas is to prove that this went westwards from the Indo-gangetic plains and not in the reverse direction, eastwards. Most probably they will now say that even the Behistun inscriptions prove their case and that Sanskrit became old persian used by Darius in those inscriptions. (The Behistun Inscription)

But the vast majority of western scholars view that the Indo-european might have originated somewhere in the caucusus region and spread both eastwards and westwards, giving rise to most Indo-european languages, rather than Sanskrit (a very modified form of the Indo-european) travellling westwards and changing by regression and progression.

The archaeological finds in Gobekli Tepe, Nemrut Dag, Nevali Cori, etc., have great similarities to hindu ways of life. One sample is attached. (snake-like tuft in Nevali Cori)

 

[prasad1]

But the vast majority of scholars view that the Indo-european might have originated somewhere in the caucusus region and spread both eastwards and westwards, giving rise to most Indo-european languages, rather than Sanskrit (a very modified form of the Indo-european) travellling westwards and changing by regression and progression.

The archaeological finds in Gobekli Tepe, Nemrut Dag, Nevali Cori, etc., have great similarities to hindu ways of life. One sample is attached. (snake-like tuft in Nevali Cori)

Very insightful.

If one reads the real history with intelligent and open mind, they will see everything in the proper light.
But if you have blinders and then saffron tinted glass, you might miss many facts. Darker the Saffron less is the true vision.
The human migration is still a theory, it keeps evolving.

 

[sarang]

BJP scholars may have an axe to grind, but there is increasing number of genuine archaeologists, historians and experts who are engaged in studying indian history much before the rise of what you despise as hindutva. The keyword 'vast majority of western scholars' is a give away of the bent of mind and disdain for indian and unbiased experts. More tools are available today - archaeology, linguistics, DNA mapping, literature etc. Aryan dravidian theory - aryans from west driving away dravidians to south - is now buried and migration from west is past history.

The theory of hindus from elsewhere coming to india and settling here will find some takers when people of indian origin settle in distant lands and protect, nourish and enhance hindu culture when hindu culture is totally wiped out for a millenium. Means a vibrant civilization does not survive in its native land but elsewhere. We finf aztecs in india but not in south america.

Anyway no harm in promoting hindu indian hindu history as an alternative for the history taught all these years. Both versions can have a healthy fight and let the best credible version survive. There are enough private organizations to fund the west version, let the govt fund a small percentage of the foreign inflow to research and revive study of our history and popularise our version.

Is it necessary to accept that only the white man's version is correct? Some see saffron everywhere, throwing all faculties to the wind.

Today, in a rally, modi said - we don't need bujbal, we need buddhibal. Hope you concur. Saffron and some non saffron intellectuals exist in india. Some sada log have blinkers and a vision with aberration.

The Mitanni treaty (1380 B.C.) is unmistakeable evidence that the hindu gods were known and were possibly worshipped by the Hittites and the Mitannis. The problem today for our BJP-walas is to prove that this went westwards from the Indo-gangetic plains and not in the reverse direction, eastwards. Most probably they will now say that even the Behistun inscriptions prove their case and that Sanskrit became old persian used by Darius in those inscriptions. (The Behistun Inscription)

But the vast majority of western scholars view that the Indo-european might have originated somewhere in the caucusus region and spread both eastwards and westwards, giving rise to most Indo-european languages, rather than Sanskrit (a very modified form of the Indo-european) travellling westwards and changing by regression and progression.

The archaeological finds in Gobekli Tepe, Nemrut Dag, Nevali Cori, etc., have great similarities to hindu ways of life. One sample is attached. (snake-like tuft in Nevali Cori)

 

[auh]

Very insightful.

If one reads the real history with intelligent and open mind, they will see everything in the proper light.
.

Not quite.

It is the "view" of scholars and not any clinching evidence. It is precisely this type of simplistic approach that has been taken advantage of.

While "saffron" glasses may possibly lessen the vision, a colourless glass may not necessarily rule out a myopic eye (or mind, for that matter).

 

[prasad1]

Not quite.

It is the "view" of scholars and not any clinching evidence. It is precisely this type of simplistic approach that has been taken advantage of.

While "saffron" glasses may possibly lessen the vision, a colourless glass may not necessarily rule out a myopic eye (or mind, for that matter).

Sir you are parsing my post. You conveniently did not include my last sentence. Human migration is an evolving THEORY. Saffronization is not recording the history, but deliberately give it a Hindutva twist. If a new scientific discovery is made and the migration theory changes that will be acceptable to all, but to force fit an event to a result acceptable to RSS is not science.
And your last sentence is what shall we say, better yet may be you should read it and get it yourself.

 

[tbs]

hi

zorastianism is very familiar with hindu vedas...modern iraq/iran/syria were part of zoratianism....prior to islam/christanity....hinduism

were the part of some tribes... avesta is very similar to rig veda....they worship fire....the first mantra in rig veda starts with...


AGNIMEELE PUROHITAM......so these pre christian era communities are connected each other...

 

[renuka]

BTW why should everything else somewhere in the world needs to be always linked to Hinduism?

Cant the world/universe harbour similarities and differences which need not be linked to each other and at the same time need not be detached from each other?

After all the 5 elements are present all over the world..if these 5 elements share no culture with anyone but yet at the same time it includes everyone..why cant other civilizations too be independent and yet inclusive?

What is the need to drag everything into the tentacles of Hinduism?

 

[vgane]

I know one Indian Zaidi who sports tilak, wears sacred yellow thread on wrist..Article seems true!

 

[sangom]

BTW why should everything else somewhere in the world needs to be always linked to Hinduism?

Cant the world/universe harbour similarities and differences which need not be linked to each other and at the same time need not be detached from each other?

After all the 5 elements are present all over the world..if these 5 elements share no culture with anyone but yet at the same time it includes everyone..why cant other civilizations too be independent and yet inclusive?

What is the need to drag everything into the tentacles of Hinduism?

When BJP came to rule last time, there was a bunch of saffron-brigade which went on to prove that almost anything and everything originated in India (more auspiciously, in North India!). Even the Indus valley script was deciphered completely by that brigade! BJP & the saffron brigade has this knack for undoing themselves; soon they lost to the UPA!

Now, BJP and saffron want to have a jolly ride on the back of Modi. But I don't think Modi is a person to just tom-tom a bery glorious ancient India; instead, he likes to look forward, into the future. But bad friendship can be one's undoing also. Let us (may not be myself, but you) wait till 2019.

 

[auh]

Sir you are parsing my post. You conveniently did not include my last sentence. Human migration is an evolving THEORY. Saffronization is not recording the history, but deliberately give it a Hindutva twist. If a new scientific discovery is made and the migration theory changes that will be acceptable to all, but to force fit an event to a result acceptable to RSS is not science.
And your last sentence is what shall we say, better yet may be you should read it and get it yourself.

What is history here? I am puzzled; human migration is a subject of contention and we are talking about thousands of years ago. There is a wide room for speculation here. Just as there exists a "caucasion" origin, there exists an "indian" origin also. I am just saying that it is quite possible for either of these theories to be equally tenable or untenable.

My "last sentence" was to point out that "other" (non-saffron, if you like!) views necessarily need not be the truth. Nothing personal.