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[nachi naga]

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amma malayalam is so unique manthram ammachi potri potri

read amma malayalam from left or from right it's same,a palindrome.

pvr saar,kerala will write as keralaites,isn't it?

 

[pvraman]

Naaga sir,

Keralites nnu eluthina adhu idaththai saarntha peru (adhu mozhiyin adayalam illai) [oh indha logicla thamilanna tamil pesaravara alladhu tamil naattula vasippavara?, tamil pesaravangalukku mattum tamil naadunna keralite m tamilanum ore pirivu thaan], mozhi saarndha perunna Malayalis thaane saar.

namaskarams

 

[pvraman]

Very interesting topic

Though, it is apparently started for seeman, lets come out of that and share what was the real culture as we know.

We have read in History, that Chera's Cholas Pandiyas Pallavas co existed with Ashoka. We also know that chola once conquered the whole land (as per the inscriptions) from kumari to imayam. We also understand that there was no divisions based on language (even till recent times before Madras samastanam divided). We understand that the recent rhetoric of our politicians for dividing tamilnadu into two or 3 for ruling. The language based division was the first poison drop which is the root cause of all this அவல நிலை.

Regarding Brahmins in TN, we do not see any evidence from the sangam literature or any ancient tamil literature that the tamils are different creatures. In Tholkaapiyam itself (in poruladhikaram), it says of 4 divisions (i could not find shudra mentioned instead, velan thozil, vaaniga tholil, arasar & andhanar). It mirrors manusmiriti in flashes regarding the divisions.

Now I wonder, Tholkaapiyar himself is disputed as jain or paarpanar (avar ezuththil) and the dates (ranging from 8th BC to 10th CE), how he mentioned the yaagams, vedic deities which can not be over night influence (even on the barbarians). Besides, many tamil literature including manimegalai and inscriptions of the kings says that they invariably followed vedic way of life.

There is an interesting verses for Karppu in Tholkaapiyam

140 கற்பெனப் படுவது கரணமொடு புணரக்
கொளற்குரி மரபிற் கிழவன் கிழத்தியைக்
கொடைக்குரி மரபினோர் கொடுப்பக் கொள்வதுவே
141 கொடுப்போர் இன்றியும் கரணம் உண்டே
புணர்ந்துடன் போகிய காலை யான.
142 மேலோர் மூவர்க்கும் புணர்த்த கரணம்
கீழோர்க்கு ஆகிய காலமும் உண்டே
143 பொய்யும் வழுவும் தோன்றிய பின்னர்
ஐயர் யாத்தனர் கரணம் என்ப.
(கரணம் - சடங்குகள்) -

142 is derived from vedic divisions and 143 also indicates that there were many illicit behaviors, to streamline, saandrors had devised all these rituals. Now since we are modern, for the very reasons now avar பகுத்தறிவு வியாதிகள் encourage suya mariyaadai thirumanagal.

(தொடரும்)

 

[nachi naga]

Though, it is apparently started for seeman, lets come out of that and share what was the real culture as we know.

We have read in History, that Chera's Cholas Pandiyas Pallavas co existed with Ashoka. We also know that chola once conquered the whole land (as per the inscriptions) from kumari to imayam. We also understand that there was no divisions based on language (even till recent times before Madras samastanam divided). We understand that the recent rhetoric of our politicians for dividing tamilnadu into two or 3 for ruling. The language based division was the first poison drop which is the root cause of all this அவல நிலை.

Regarding Brahmins in TN, we do not see any evidence from the sangam literature or any ancient tamil literature that the tamils are different creatures. In Tholkaapiyam itself (in poruladhikaram), it says of 4 divisions (i could not find shudra mentioned instead, velan thozil, vaaniga tholil, arasar & andhanar). It mirrors manusmiriti in flashes regarding the divisions.

Now I wonder, Tholkaapiyar himself is disputed as jain or paarpanar (avar ezuththil) and the dates (ranging from 8th BC to 10th CE), how he mentioned the yaagams, vedic deities which can not be over night influence (even on the barbarians). Besides, many tamil literature including manimegalai and inscriptions of the kings says that they invariably followed vedic way of life.

There is an interesting verses for Karppu in Tholkaapiyam

140 கற்பெனப் படுவது கரணமொடு புணரக்
கொளற்குரி மரபிற் கிழவன் கிழத்தியைக்
கொடைக்குரி மரபினோர் கொடுப்பக் கொள்வதுவே
141 கொடுப்போர் இன்றியும் கரணம் உண்டே
புணர்ந்துடன் போகிய காலை யான.
142 மேலோர் மூவர்க்கும் புணர்த்த கரணம்
கீழோர்க்கு ஆகிய காலமும் உண்டே
143 பொய்யும் வழுவும் தோன்றிய பின்னர்
ஐயர் யாத்தனர் கரணம் என்ப.
(கரணம் - சடங்குகள்) -

142 is derived from vedic divisions and 143 also indicates that there were many illicit behaviors, to streamline, saandrors had devised all these rituals. Now since we are modern, for the very reasons now avar பகுத்தறிவு வியாதிகள் encourage suya mariyaadai thirumanagal.

(தொடரும்)

pvr saar

சோழன் மன்னர் என்று எழிடிஆடன் என்னக்கு என்ன பூர்வ ஜன்ம ந்யகபதுக்கு வண்டு விட்டது .நாடு ஜோசியம் பிரகாரம் நான் என் பூர்வ ஜன்மத்தில் சோழன் நாட்டு மன்னரக்ஹா இருந்தவன் பாஸ்ட் லைப் ரேக்றேச்சியன் (past life regression)சைடல் கூட இது உணமையாக இருக்கிறது

வேடம் அனைத்துமே பு லோகத்திற்கு ஒரே சமையம் தெரிவிக்க பட்டனன என்பது என் கருது .ஆகையால் பிராமணர் என்று சொல்லாமல் தமிழில் இவர்களை மற்ற ஒன்று பெயரின்னல் வன்னக பட்டர் .

 

[pvraman]

Naaga saar,

Chola are not tamils, (as per this website)

meeru teluga??

Hollethu saar!.

 

[nachi naga]

Naaga saar,

Chola are not tamils, (as per this website)

meeru teluga??

Hollethu saar!.

adikkay nun guru mahaswamigal kanchi nungay hendthi kannada thai basha bun didaray,idella sai baba karuna nungay pvr saar,poorva janmathilay naanu aneka devasthanagalu makkaligay kottidvi,naan adella nodh bittu santoshavagi e dinni

chola territory was so wide and their influence reached vietnam,indonesia,malaysia,singapore,middle east asia,russian territories,north american regions...purana is so vivid with descriptions

 

[RKB]

Seeman Sanskrit Sastrigal!!

I think it should not be a problem, in AP, they will write Telugu, and in Karnataka they will write kannadiga, in Kerala they will write malayali, eventually the header of the column will be changed from Religion to mother tongue.

:frog:.

If differentiation from the identity of Father's community is not acceptable to rationalist, how can they rationalize differentiation by mother's tongue. Pachai Tamizan then should not have language. No Tamil for Seeman!

Thank god that most of us are just Tamizans and not degenerated on date to Pachai Tamizans.

 

[nachi naga]

Naaga saar,

Chola are not tamils, (as per this website)

meeru teluga??

Hollethu saar!.

gandhi ji told people that all languages are unique in its dimension,when chenna patnam was ruled prior to british,for some period after pallavas it was telegu kings only.but then war between kingdoms wascommon and border and influence of kings extended way beyonf territories itself.just like how colin powell cold influence gen.musharaff over a phone call,such system in ancient times were prevailing and various means of messenger system was used.

tha is why local tamizh's who are dmk brand ,still tease telegu as guelte as annagrammed.but then local tamizh tease even north indians as sayttu.malayalis as ?

having lived in secunderabad,i can safely call myself telegu bidda or telegu talli.anny aah deveru pani

mother tongue father tongue is tamizh.engal thanthayya nadu tn,engal thai nadu tn,bharatham ,aanal ippozhdu naan aangilayar

 

[Jambu]

Say No to Varna Yes to varnam. In addition to பச்சை தமிழன் a new hoarding calls Seeman as செந்தமிழன் சீமான். Tamilan has different hues. Interestingly on 14 th the Birthday of Dr. Ambedker all his statues were painted நீலம் by Seeman's படை. Jambu:mad2:

 

[pvraman]

naachi saar, naanu begaumpettali idhavane..

Language is a identification for a particular people. It is meant to denote particular culture, lifestycle. So, Tamilan means we should assume certain குண நலன்கள். But what happens now, they left the purpose and left the culture and hold tightly the word tamil (which has become the last identity...).

If we see further, if one boasts one language is better than others, (without any trace in their collective behavior of the greatness), and abuse other languages, thats a discrimination equal to racial discrimination. And with the same logic, they resemble fully the caste system but in a different level. Calling one self tamilan and calling one self Iyer, thevar, mudhaliar all are same. (in a different level). So abusing caste system and accepting Mozhi system is ridiculous.

It is amusing really...
(அதுலயும் பச்சை தமிழன், செந்தமிழன், மறத்தமிழன், மஞ்ச துண்டு தமிழன் (விசேட கேட்டகிரி!) பேஷ்..பேஷ்.. ரொம்ப நன்னாயிருக்கு. அம்பேத்காருக்கு நீலக்கலர் சாயம் பூசினா பரவாயிலலை. வட இந்தியன்னு தார் பூசாம இருந்தா சரி).

ரத்தம் ஒரே நிறம், அனால், நாங்க வேற மொழி!.இது தான் அரசியல் வியாதிகளின் மந்திரம்..

 

[nachi naga]

pvr

languages are many,the essence is communication,which is same for all over the world.

races are many,but humanity is one.

unity in diversity,is the dictum to follow and be one.only advaitham gives the real depth of such a unity,imho.

 

[nachi naga]

who are tamizh brahmins?
People who speak,read,write,understand are tamizh's,reinforced when they live in tamizh nadu,india.
people who know brahman,is a brahmin.they could be hereditary brahmins as a jathi or category or community ; or people who know brahman,by not being born in community,jathi or category.this is universal in nature.every society in the world,have the intellectual,teacher,learned,identifying with the universal lord.
hereditary jathi or breed bramins are trained to know brahman.thru rituals,prayers,karmas proscribed in scriptures.
similiarly for tamizh kshatriyan,tamizh vaishyan,tamizh shudran.
all the four personalities are equal in nature.but owing to societies nature of handling things,superiority or inferiority complexes arise between people.this happens because of an inability of a ruler to administer properly,who delibeartely creates a divide and rule policy,so that he could occupy the seat or position of dominance.