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Dear Sravna,

Have you see the movie Anniyan?

Don't you think that Ambi was too Sattva and tried too hard to make a change?? and before we knew it Anniyan was created.

You see when we try to hard to make a change....there is a risk of us developing a Multiple Personality Disorder.

BTW since you started this thread I would like to know your Modus Operandi..that is what do you really want to do for society??
 
These things are loaded with danger, imo.

My mami used to do reiki healing until somebody advised her not to do so as it would affect her negatively. Similarly one of my close relatives is a famous astrologer and he was advised not to reveal certain predictions as it would affect him/his family adversely.

One has to tread such paths very carefully.
 
Dear Sravna,

Have you see the movie Anniyan?

Don't you think that Ambi was too Sattva and tried too hard to make a change?? and before we knew it Anniyan was created.

You see when we try to hard to make a change....there is a risk of us developing a Multiple Personality Disorder.

BTW since you started this thread I would like to know your Modus Operandi..that is what do you really want to do for society??

Dear Renuka,

First of all let me clarify there is no such thing as programming done here. If you believe in hindu philosophy you would agree that the reality is only one and what we see as multiple things are ultimately one. So everything is in fact a connected whole. If you believe in this you have no problem accepting that the minds of all the beings are in fact a single whole and they are totally connected at a deeper level.That is what is happening here.

It is nonsense that 1 or 2 people are suggesting that I am playing God. Nobody can do that. I believe that there are enough checks and balances in the nature itself that prevents that from happening. But things like mitigating health problems and improving the future prospects of an individual etc can be done. I think these can be done anyway by science and by planning too.

Since everything is an interconnected whole I think there is truth that not only my thoughts but each person's thoughts can influence others. We probably do not realize that. That is the reason we need to study seriously about this so that we do not see this as a mystery but something which is acceptable to reason.
 
Dear Renuka,

First of all let me clarify there is no such thing as programming done here. If you believe in hindu philosophy you would agree that the reality is only one and what we see as multiple things are ultimately one. So everything is in fact a connected whole. If you believe in this you have no problem accepting that the minds of all the beings are in fact a single whole and they are totally connected at a deeper level.That is what is happening here.

It is nonsense that 1 or 2 people are suggesting that I am playing God. Nobody can do that. I believe that there are enough checks and balances in the nature itself that prevents that from happening. But things like mitigating health problems and improving the future prospects of an individual etc can be done. I think these can be done anyway by science and by planning too.

Since everything is an interconnected whole I think there is truth that not only my thoughts but each person's thoughts can influence others. We probably do not realize that. That is the reason we need to study seriously about this so that we do not see this as a mystery but something which is acceptable to reason.

Dear Sravna,

I do agree that everything is interconnected but the fact remains is most of us do not actually know the connections.

Well the human mind and thought waves are like our Wi Fi and it travels right from our mind to God knows where.

There is really nothing new about healthy mind =healthy body..after all in Geeta Lord Krishna says:
TEXT 5
uddhared atmanatmanam
natmanam avasadayet
atmaiva hy atmano bandhur
atmaiva ripur atmanah

TRANSLATION
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A man must elevate himself by his own mind, not degrade himself. The mind is the friend of the conditioned soul, and his enemy as well.

If we contemplate on this Verse..Lord Krishna makes it very very clear that any change for oneself is at an individual level..hence the Mind is the friend and also the enemy as well.

It also clearly states that a man should elevate himself by his own mind and not degrade himself.


Now coming back to your point of everything being interconnected..right now can you guess even what I am thinking?? No isn't it?

Just say I sit here sending thought waves to you that you click on some Sunny Leone movie on you tube do you really think I will succeed to make you watch the movie??

There is still lots of grey areas not tapped yet by the human mind..even though recently some experiment where 2 people sending thought waves to each other through near distance and was some what successful but on grand scale nothing has been done yet.

Have you seen the movie Pacific Rim?

I hope you can watch that..cos there they deal with getting into another person's mind and they also show that when we get into another person's mind if one is not strong enough a flood of memories just distract them from reality.

So Sravna I hope I have made my point clear..BTW if you feel everything is interconnected and if one person tried to be good and that would influence another to be good..tell me how does this fit in the theory of Karma?
 
Dear Sravna,

Have you see the movie Anniyan?

Don't you think that Ambi was too Sattva and tried too hard to make a change?? and before we knew it Anniyan was created.

You see when we try to hard to make a change....there is a risk of us developing a Multiple Personality Disorder.

BTW since you started this thread I would like to know your Modus Operandi..that is what do you really want to do for society??

Dear Renuka,

I want people to realize that it is necessary to go beyond and understand what we only perceive through our senses and must rely on our mind to a greater extent. I am not sure how exactly this will happen but this is what I think seems the right thing to do if people who believe only in sensory realities are to be convinced otherwise.
 
Dear Sravna,

I do agree that everything is interconnected but the fact remains is most of us do not actually know the connections.

Well the human mind and thought waves are like our Wi Fi and it travels right from our mind to God knows where.

There is really nothing new about healthy mind =healthy body..after all in Geeta Lord Krishna says:


If we contemplate on this Verse..Lord Krishna makes it very very clear that any change for oneself is at an individual level..hence the Mind is the friend and also the enemy as well.

It also clearly states that a man should elevate himself by his own mind and not degrade himself.


Now coming back to your point of everything being interconnected..right now can you guess even what I am thinking?? No isn't it?

Just say I sit here sending thought waves to you that you click on some Sunny Leone movie on you tube do you really think I will succeed to make you watch the movie??

There is still lots of grey areas not tapped yet by the human mind..even though recently some experiment where 2 people sending thought waves to each other through near distance and was some what successful but on grand scale nothing has been done yet.

Have you seen the movie Pacific Rim?

I hope you can watch that..cos there they deal with getting into another person's mind and they also show that when we get into another person's mind if one is not strong enough a flood of memories just distract them from reality.

So Sravna I hope I have made my point clear..BTW if you feel everything is interconnected and if one person tried to be good and that would influence another to be good..tell me how does this fit in the theory of Karma?


Dear Renuka,

I do not have answers to what you ask. Probably there are a number of things that cannot be accomplished even if the minds are interconnected. Are we able to control our own body completely with our mind? Only future research will answer the questions you raise

Regarding karma what you say cannot happen because you just cannot influence a person to
be good. There may be some higher power that would prevent that from happening. So I think the law of karma would definitely operate. What one can do is to present evidence and facts that would make a person think and reason and come to his own conclusion based on the different experiences and facts he has at his disposal. That is what a human can do.
 


This may not be very relevant to this topic. Just yesterday I had occasion to discuss the superiority of our old (tabra) ways of living and somehow, the topic of brass, bronze etc., vessels which was a real burden for the womenfolk, was put up by one person. I tried to convince him that copper, an ingredient of brass and bronze, has amazing germicidal & bactericidal properties, so much so that the US Defence department is conducting extensive research on the topic and the VVIP rooms in some of the best-known US hospitals are all having brass/brnze fittings (avoiding plastic and other synthetic non-metallic) fittings which ensures a very high level of germs-free atmosphere!

The highlighted is an interesting piece of news about which I was unaware of until I read your post. I could google and find more info. Thanks.

A request - if you could please do start a thread about the old tabra way of living and the benefits (if any) from it. I am sure that it would be useful to many here. Others could also chip in with thier views.

Regards,
 
The highlighted is an interesting piece of news about which I was unaware of until I read your post. I could google and find more info. Thanks.

A request - if you could please do start a thread about the old tabra way of living and the benefits (if any) from it. I am sure that it would be useful to many here. Others could also chip in with thier views.

Regards,

I came to know about this last year when the family of a relative, who is working for the US Defence Department, was searching for copper "biscuits" (like the old "gold biscuits") in the market. Much can be told about the old tabra ways of life and there are many senior to me in this forum who will know better about it than I do. But, as you will realize, modernism has wiped off much of that kind of life and I do not find any possibility of those things ever returning. Hence, I feel there is no point in having a separate thread on the topic. Let us all float along in the vast current called "Time".
 
It's Your Health - The Safe Use of Cookware [Health Canada, 2006]
Copper


Copper conducts heat well, making it easy to control cooking temperatures. Brass, made from copper and zinc, is less commonly used for cookware.
Small amounts of copper are good for everyday health. However, large amounts in a single dose or over a short period can be poisonous. It is not certain how much can be safely taken each day.


Because of this, copper and brass pans sold in Canada are coated with another metal that prevents the copper from coming into contact with food. Small amounts of the coating can be dissolved by food, especially acidic food, when cooked or stored for long periods. Coated copper cookware can lose its protective layer if scoured.
In the past, tin and nickel were sometimes used in coating copper cookware. Such cookware should be used for decorative purposes only. Anyone allergic to nickel should particularly avoid nickel-coated cookware.
Minimizing Your Risk


Do not cook or store food for long periods of time in aluminum cookware.
Do not use badly scratched or un-coated copper cookware to cook or store food. If you do have some older tin or nickelcoated cookware, use it for decorative purposes only. Do not scour coated copper cookware. If you use lead coating (Iyyam) that can leach lead to food, Particularly Rasam.

LEAD


Children should be protected from ceramic cookware containing lead. Acidic foods such as oranges, tomatoes, or foods containing vinegar will cause more lead to be leached from ceramic cookware than nonacidic foods like milk. More lead will leach into hot liquids like coffee, tea, and soups than into cold beverages. Do not use any dishware that has a dusty or chalky gray film on the glaze after it has been washed.


Any ceramic cookware bought in another country or considered to be a craft, antique, or collectable may not meet FDA specifications, and should not be used to hold food. Test kits can detect high levels of lead in ceramic cookware, but may not detect lower levels that may also be dangerous.
We do not know how many of our Brahmin children could not develop to full potential because of Iyya shombu Rasam.

If you know you are allergic to nickel, do not use nickel-plated cookware.
If you are sensitive to nickel and are having difficulty managing your allergy, discuss options with your doctor. Foods known to contain higher levels of nickel include oats and oat products, peas, beans, lentils and cocoa products, such as chocolate, particularly dark chocolate.
Do not store foods that are highly acidic, such as stewed rhubarb or stewed tomatoes, in stainless steel containers.
If you bring in glazed ceramic cookware from abroad, be aware that it may not meet Canadian permitted levels for lead and cadmium. Do not use it to serve or store food. Use it for decoration only.
Don't use plastic bowls or wrap in the microwave unless they are labelled as microwave safe.
If you reuse plastic items for storage, such as dairy product containers, let the food cool before storing, then refrigerate it immediately. Avoid visibly damaged, stained or unpleasant smelling plastics and containers. Never heat or store food in plastic containers that were not intended for food.
Do not use silicone cookware at temperatures above 220°C (428°F) as it will melt if exposed to high temperatures . You should also be careful when removing hot foods from flexible silicone cookware, as the food may slide out very quickly.
 
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We do not know how many of our Brahmin children could not develop to full potential because of Iyya shombu Rasam.
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Eeya chombu is not made of Lead but Tin. Tin has been in human use, as bronze, from very ancient times. There is no report of Tin affecting human brain development. But if it does, then humanity as a whole - and not only Tabras with Eeya chombu rasam - has probably been adversely affected from times immemorial ;)

 

Eeya chombu is not made of Lead but Tin. Tin has been in human use, as bronze, from very ancient times. There is no report of Tin affecting human brain development. But if it does, then humanity as a whole - and not only Tabras with Eeya chombu rasam - has probably been adversely affected from times immemorial ;)


You may be correct. We exchange and purchase Eeya Chommu in Kumbakonam. I think the Eeya chombu made in Kumbakonam area metal used seems to be an alloy of lead and tin, but the manufacturers do not disclose this secret. In Tamil we call coating of Tin on the vessels ஈயம் பூசுவது.
We use Eeya Chombu on daily basis to prepare Rasam for generations, so far we have not noticed any health problems in our families due to use of this vessel.
 

Eeya chombu is not made of Lead but Tin. Tin has been in human use, as bronze, from very ancient times. There is no report of Tin affecting human brain development. But if it does, then humanity as a whole - and not only Tabras with Eeya chombu rasam - has probably been adversely affected from times immemorial ;)

I wanted to clarify something. People often think the vessels which are called Eeyam, in which you typically make Rasam contains lead or is lead Actually, the vessels which are called Eeyam is an alloy of Tin and lead. Although Eeyam means lead.

I am not an authority on metallurgy, I may be wrong and as Mr. Brahmanyan said they do not disclose the true content of the alloy.
 
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