Dear Ravi:
Your post below is very illuminating as to what shade or hue of Religion & Spirituality that YOU follow. But I see some inconsistency, thus I have many disagreement! Please read the response in bold letters below.
Peace.
Innum varum... later.
Your post below is very illuminating as to what shade or hue of Religion & Spirituality that YOU follow. But I see some inconsistency, thus I have many disagreement! Please read the response in bold letters below.
Shri Yamaka,
I believe in Spirituality and I understand and respect the values of spirituality. I practice astrology and I know what God and Spirituality is all about.
Even a realized Sanyasi has a desire. Has expections that he should able to realize the presence of God or could some how know how the magnificient power can look like?
Disagree. A REAL Sanyasi has no desire and no ego, IMO.
I have some expectation too as a comman man. But my expectations from God are not like I should be fulfilled with my wordly desires otherwise of which I am gonna reject you. I expect to be relieved from negative thoughts, negative vibrations around me. I expect goodness of mind to prevail. I expect myself to be a righteous person in all given challenging circumstances. I expect God/spiritual energies to let me know subtly as where and how I am wrong so that I can correct myself. I seek for mental strength, peace, happiness and good will within me and people surrounding me. I expect God to protect me and guide me subtly.
I expect to enhance my spiritual energies by the grace of the devine being and wish that I don't end up accummulating bad karma. I wish that I should be in a position to serve the needy as that gives me the immense pleasure and satisfaction.
I wish my spiritual practices could mould me well, could provide me wisdom, could provide me with a composed personality.
As long as you have some sort of EXPECTATION from your God, then how are you different from any other worshiper who wants lots of jewels, money, power or authority from their God? Please explain, if you care.
I am a believer of Karma and I know what I can look for and what I can't/should not from my God / spiritual practices. I can understand how spirituality can help me to work on my Karma.
If people know what God and spirituality is all about, what is karma all about, they would not have a different version of God to worship. If they have different version of God to worship for their motive of acheiving everything they want in this life, than its their own way. I have nothing to do with it. I can only wish that all the people should have the better understanding about God and spirituality and be a good human irrespective of what they could acheive or coudn't acheive with their spiritual practices.
From this Karma, what flows naturally is the FATALISM of "All activities are Pre-Ordained, and nothing can be changed by humans in this world". Do you refute this? Why and How? Explain, if you care to.
You said this - "Values are Universal. The 2.5 billion people around the world who won't worship any God live happily with high morals... Just look around, dear Ravi."
With their own level of understanding and experiences many theists are becoming atheists and many atheists are becoming theists. Many keep changing from time to time. Many don't honestly express if they are theists or atheists. So Shri Yamaka, I never believe in the existence of 2.5 billion aheists people around the world who wont' worship any God. Thus there is nothing for me to look around based on very very week hypothesis.
Please read carefully I wrote: these people are largely Non-Worshipers... most of them are Agnostics and Atheists, but not ALL are... many just don't care about worship of a SNA.
If you have Chinese friends talk to them and understand as to what happens across India's SE border:
Of the 1.3 billion Chinese, a full 1.2 billions are Non-Believers, Non-Worshipers and they are living a moral happier life... You have the RIGHT to live in the bliss of ignorance. The Chinese are achieving something wonderful because of
1. State Banned Theism
2. Bottom Up Politics: Their rural China is healthier and better educated than the rural India
3. State Capitalism
4. Single Party Political Activism.
Do you dare to deny this?
Peace.
Innum varum... later.