Discussion about the book Common Prophets of the Jews, Christians, Muslims, and Hindus by Bharat Jhunjhunwala

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Discussion about the book Common Prophets of the Jews, Christians, Muslims, and Hindus by Bharat Jhunjhunwala

@renuka I'm responding to your post because I read the book you mention. However, I couldn't respond, so I made a thread.

In the middle of your post you @renuka wrote
"Bharat Jhunjhunwala, well-known columnist, is now busy compiling a full book on the similarities between Ibrahim (RA) and Ram. Valmiki Ramyana talks of one single God and speaks about Pralay (Qayamat). In one of the Hindu scriptures,"

Here's Bharat Jhunjhunwala's book

Common Prophets
Of the Jews, Christians, Muslims and Hindus
Author Bharat Jhunjhunwala

Here's your @renuka post and can read it at thread.

Post in thread 'War cry in holy cities A storm is gathering along the banks of river Ganges.'

Jul 7, 2014

Some debatable facts here and there but overall makes a good read and good message for people to Focus on God alone..worth a read.


Let Sai Baba controversy strengthen the movement for Worship of God alone!

June 25, 2014

By Dr Javed Jamil

Shirdi’s Sai Baba has undoubtedly outdone all other Hindu saints in terms of growing popularity among Hindus in the last century. While there is little doubt that he was a Muslim Sufi saint with unadulterated devotion to one “MaaliK”, his Hindu devotees outnumber Muslims by a huge...

• renuka

• 

Now I'll @Learning ask a question from book and from @renuka post so to begin this discussion

From your post @renuka

"Bharat Jhunjhunwala, well-known columnist, is now busy compiling a full book on the similarities between Ibrahim (RA) and Ram. Valmiki Ramyana talks of one single God and speaks about Pralay (Qayamat). In one of the Hindu scriptures,"

From Book I think I learned that 'AB' means father. And Ram or Rama is Abraham or ABram. 'AB'ram from Indus Valley ancient India.

What do you think are the similarities between Ibrahim (RA) and Ram?
What I learned so far from this book is that AB means father, so AB is the 'father' of Ram. Abram AB Rama. Father of Rama

What are your thoughts about this?

Oh even though this wasn't in the book, later online I learned about Tamil language.
What are the thoughts of Tamil language and the people who speaks Tamil and about the word father? What word to Tamil language have for father? Tamil language is the mother language yes? And there's what for father? And does this attach to word, example 'AB'ram?

I'm learning.

Now my rambling.

Oh I didn't learn anything about Tamil in the book, however recently I learned about Tamil online and learn that Tamil language is a mother language. So was Tamil language before Sanskrit language happened? This area wasn't from the book Common Prophets, about these two languages, however I'll include this in this discussion due to I kept noticing languages forming.

This came about because I kept seeing how languages were forming

Example AB means father. Then Father of what, in this case Ram or Rama. Father Ram?

Yet this happened in Indus Valley area, what about south India area, what happened in south India during this time? That's my question I have after reading book common prophets.

This area is confusing for me, northern India and southern India

Even though this book shown in the Indus Valley area that's northern India, due to this, later I adventure learning about southern India and that's when I learn Tamil language a mother language.

From Book: Krishna left Indus Valley and went to an unknown area, this book takes a closer look at where this unknown area is that Krishna went to.

Here's website

Common Prophets of the Jews, Christians & Muslims and Hindus

www.commonprophets.com

What are your thoughts about all of this?

 

[renuka]

Discussion about the book Common Prophets of the Jews, Christians, Muslims, and Hindus by Bharat Jhunjhunwala

@renuka I'm responding to your post because I read the book you mention. However, I couldn't respond, so I made a thread.

In the middle of your post you @renuka wrote
"Bharat Jhunjhunwala, well-known columnist, is now busy compiling a full book on the similarities between Ibrahim (RA) and Ram. Valmiki Ramyana talks of one single God and speaks about Pralay (Qayamat). In one of the Hindu scriptures,"

Here's Bharat Jhunjhunwala's book

Common Prophets
Of the Jews, Christians, Muslims and Hindus
Author Bharat Jhunjhunwala

Here's your @renuka post and can read it at thread.

Post in thread 'War cry in holy cities A storm is gathering along the banks of river Ganges.'

Jul 7, 2014

Some debatable facts here and there but overall makes a good read and good message for people to Focus on God alone..worth a read.


Let Sai Baba controversy strengthen the movement for Worship of God alone!

June 25, 2014

By Dr Javed Jamil

Shirdi’s Sai Baba has undoubtedly outdone all other Hindu saints in terms of growing popularity among Hindus in the last century. While there is little doubt that he was a Muslim Sufi saint with unadulterated devotion to one “MaaliK”, his Hindu devotees outnumber Muslims by a huge...

• renuka

• 

Now I'll @Learning ask a question from book and from @renuka post so to begin this discussion

From your post @renuka

"Bharat Jhunjhunwala, well-known columnist, is now busy compiling a full book on the similarities between Ibrahim (RA) and Ram. Valmiki Ramyana talks of one single God and speaks about Pralay (Qayamat). In one of the Hindu scriptures,"

From Book I think I learned that 'AB' means father. And Ram or Rama is Abraham or ABram. 'AB'ram from Indus Valley ancient India.

What do you think are the similarities between Ibrahim (RA) and Ram?
What I learned so far from this book is that AB means father, so AB is the 'father' of Ram. Abram AB Rama. Father of Rama

What are your thoughts about this?

Oh even though this wasn't in the book, later online I learned about Tamil language.
What are the thoughts of Tamil language and the people who speaks Tamil and about the word father? What word to Tamil language have for father? Tamil language is the mother language yes? And there's what for father? And does this attach to word, example 'AB'ram?

I'm learning.

Now my rambling.

Oh I didn't learn anything about Tamil in the book, however recently I learned about Tamil online and learn that Tamil language is a mother language. So was Tamil language before Sanskrit language happened? This area wasn't from the book Common Prophets, about these two languages, however I'll include this in this discussion due to I kept noticing languages forming.

This came about because I kept seeing how languages were forming

Example AB means father. Then Father of what, in this case Ram or Rama. Father Ram?

Yet this happened in Indus Valley area, what about south India area, what happened in south India during this time? That's my question I have after reading book common prophets.

This area is confusing for me, northern India and southern India

Even though this book shown in the Indus Valley area that's northern India, due to this, later I adventure learning about southern India and that's when I learn Tamil language a mother language.

From Book: Krishna left Indus Valley and went to an unknown area, this book takes a closer look at where this unknown area is that Krishna went to.

Here's website

Common Prophets of the Jews, Christians & Muslims and Hindus

www.commonprophets.com

What are your thoughts about all of this?

Wow, I wrote that way back in 2014.
I didnt even remember I wrote that post.

I wish I could reply you but I find the topic way out my mental capacity now.
These days I prefer not to analyze religions anymore..not keen for comparative religion either..when I was younger I used to be interested in all these.
But as I aged, I realized analysis only adds data to my mind.
I am not in the data accumulating stage in my life.


The only thing I can say is Ibrahim( pbuh) is not Shree Rama.

Coming to Tamil and Sanskrit as in which came first, once upon a time this would have mattered to me.
Recently I got to know that Yogis in Himalayas use Sandhya language to codify everything.
It seems Sandhya language is purely a yogic language " spoken" in code and its vocabulary is only for spiritual matters and no vocabulary for mundane life.

So now which language came first doesnt make a difference to me as the language of silence is what we all go to finally.

But I cant help noticing that whenever we humans get an idea that pops up in our brain, we tend to say " aha"

This somehow is fascinating because
अ ( a) is the first sound in the sanskrit phonetics and ह (ha) is the last sound in the. sanskrit phonetics.


Coming to meaning of Abram.
I do not know Hebrew but I know Arabic which is also a Semetic language and quite similar.

Ab means Father in Arabic.
Coming to the word ram..its supposed to mean elevated and high in Hebrew.
But since I dont know Hebrew, I will only relate what I know in Arabic..in Arabic the word rAma( رام) has meanings which range from " to throw, to fling, to hurl, also means an archer and marksman/ sharpshooter and last but not least it means high/ elevated.

Thats why rAmallah the name of a city in Palestine.. means God's Height in Arabic.
rAma= height
Allah = God

So the Arabic meaning of abrAm matches the Hebrew meaning of " Elevated Father".

I hope my answers are sufficient for now.
I am truly sorry that I might not be able to contribute much.

 

[prasad1]

Just a distraction. Not trying to hijack the thread. The name Abram Khan. https://www.bollywoodbiography.in/abram-khan.html

• During his appearance on Aap Ki Adalat with Rajat Sharma, Shah Rukh Khan was asked by a fan about the reason behind naming his youngest son AbRam and its meaning. Khan explained that Hazrat Ibrahim in Islam is known as Abraham in the Bible, and in Judaism, it's Abram.