Five reasons to eat meat:

[s007bala]

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FIVE REASONS TO EAT MEAT:

1) It tastes good 2) It makes you feel good 3) It's a great American tradition 4) It supports the nation's farmers 5) Your parents did it.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1002888,00.html

I think,if people stopped eating meat,there will be world peace quickly.Comments welcome from all.

sb

 

[G Vishwanath]

Meat Eating

The best treatise on this subject is the book by Peter Singer.
Any one who reads this is likely to forswear non veg food.
His arguments are so utterly convincing.


I was a vegetarian by habit and upbringing so far.
After I read this book I have become a vegetarian by conviction.

G Vishwanth, JP Nagar, Bangalore

 

[s007bala]

re

The best treatise on this subject is the book by Peter Singer.
Any one who reads this is likely to forswear non veg food.
His arguments are so utterly convincing.


I was a vegetarian by habit and upbringing so far.
After I read this book I have become a vegetarian by conviction.

G Vishwanth, JP Nagar, Bangalore

While i have not read the book written by Peter Singer,but i was raised to be a vegetarian by birth as per kula sampradaya of south indian tamizh brahmanas.So,i am already convicted by conviction owing to upbringing.But,i do feel,there is nothing morally wrong to eat meat or its an irreligious affair to do so,as per our tambram culture.In order to rebel,i have eaten meat,as if i did a big deal by my action,which of course is very silly and immature of me.

I certainly love veggie diets and like to be a glutton :flock:

sb

 

[Seshadri Subramaniam]

The best conviction is through one's own... in my opinion... and it is thus that i practice and believe in vegetarianism...

:welcome:bala, nice to see u here again...!

 

[guruprasadtr]

I think brahmins choose not to eat meat because of the profession they have chosen.. like teachers, scholars and so forth. We strive to hone our mental skills which is the basis of our profession. I do not think it is a sin for non-brahmins to eat meat. If a kshatriya has to eat meat to get strength... there is nothing wrong in it.

 

[Seshadri Subramaniam]

I think brahmins choose not to eat meat because of the profession they have chosen.. like teachers, scholars and so forth. We strive to hone our mental skills which is the basis of our profession. I do not think it is a sin for non-brahmins to eat meat. If a kshatriya has to eat meat to get strength... there is nothing wrong in it.

Sorry, I do not agree that strength lies only in non-veg food... there are so may options in vegetables for the same; it just simply means that one has not tried it out or believed it!

Not just to brag - but I was my college arm-wrestling champion and of the shotput too... I trained in weight-lifting and have attended various gyms... and have never resorted to non-veg food for strength...

Strength lies in the mind...!

Regards,

 

[guruprasadtr]

Sorry, I do not agree that strength lies only in non-veg food... there are so may options in vegetables for the same; it just simply means that one has not tried it out or believed it!

Not just to brag - but I was my college arm-wrestling champion and of the shotput too... I trained in weight-lifting and have attended various gyms... and have never resorted to non-veg food for strength...

Strength lies in the mind...!

Regards,

I am not saying that for brahmins.. to gain physical strength eating meat is the only way. I am saying that the eating habits greatly depend on the environment / climatic conditions you live in and you cannot judge an american's eating habits who is living in cold countries where steak is the staple food.

If you are raising a kid in a foreign country where she grows up where vegetarian food is non existant.. you can not argue that all meat eaters are sinners.

If you want to keep your emotions in check, be less impulsive in thinking.. and want to use your brain more effectively.. go vegetarian.

 

[Irreligious_One]

Benefits of eating animal tissue?

a. Animal tissue (including eggs) provide the only assimilable source of Vitamin B12. Our body cannot utilize the B12 produced in plant cells. The B12 in your multi-vitamin pill does come from an animal source.

b. Animal proteins are also far more easily digested and assimilated by the body than plant proteins.


Oh yes, this Tam-Bram enjoys his chicken and turkey, and works in meat research...so flame away!

 

[s007bala]

re

Benefits of eating animal tissue?

a. Animal tissue (including eggs) provide the only assimilable source of Vitamin B12. Our body cannot utilize the B12 produced in plant cells. The B12 in your multi-vitamin pill does come from an animal source.

b. Animal proteins are also far more easily digested and assimilated by the body than plant proteins.


Oh yes, this Tam-Bram enjoys his chicken and turkey, and works in meat research...so flame away!

IO

is it true Vit B 12 is coming from animals?But this vitamin is awesome,gives a terrific boost to one's energy levels.somehow controls blood pressure and high cholesterol too.:tongue1:

sb

Dear Sri s007bala Ji,

Welcome back. We had to delete already a posting yesterday (you know why). I am editing this posting - such a comment may not be viewed as a 'joke' by everyone, however good intentioned you think it is. Please start self editing, or we may go down the same path we did before. Hope you understand. Thanks.

Regards,
KRS

 

[Irreligious_One]

IO

is it true Vit B 12 is coming from animals?But this vitamin is awesome,gives a terrific boost to one's energy levels.somehow controls blood pressure and high cholesterol too.:tongue1:

sb

B12 is synthesized in both plant and animal tissues. However, the ones synthesized in plant tissues is not readily available via biotransformation in the human digestive system. You may have to consume a lot more plant matter to get the same amount of B12 you would get from a small amount of animal tissue. Supposedly there's new research indicating that certain benign and edible bacteria species can synthesize more readily available B12 than plant tissues and can be used as supplements. I am not sure if they've been commercially employed.

As for how B12 helps the human body, go visit wikipedia and do some reading. Its functions are varied and perinicious anemia is a major result of its deficiency. I read the moderator's comments, and it seems like your unedited response could have been somewhat mocking in its tone. If that's the case, Mr. Bala, it's better to have an engaging discussion based on logic and good background knowledge, instead of engaging in juvenile mocking matches. When I intended to post the benefits of eating animal tissue, I had no intentions of mocking vegetarians or vegans on this board...just stating facts. Everyone has a right to do whatever they want.

 

[kunjuppu]

personally, i think, strength and bodybuild has something to do with physical toning.

when i was in university, in india, during the late 1960s, the strongest guy in the class, the best athlete, with a 6 pack enough to get arnold schwarzenegger's attention, was a jat from haryana.

he was a pure vegetarian. would not even touch eggs.

but he did workouts regularly. was always into sports. he could do 50 pushups with one hand, in a single setting. and all without effort.

i think, we brahmins, should, and definitely, should inculcate the concept of being proud of a good body.

we put so much emphasis to our kids on the mastery of the brain, that in the process, we may even, actively discourage physical activities. perhaps with the mistaken notion, that time taken away from the books, is time wasted.

a good physique is an immense confidence builder. and also a deterrent to bullying.

i have lived in canada, for over 35 years. with my sons born and brought up here. i have consistently, avoid suppressing the inbuilt sense of aggression and anger, which each of us is endowed with, in the face of injustice.

my sons are aggressive in their movement and carriage. it is but natural, and we are all born with it. but as parents of a particular walk of life, we may inadvertently suppress these self protection instincts.

these are a reflection of our fears. and in the process, we end up, getting mocked and ridiculed for our weakness.

yesterday, i read somewhere, that blew my mind. it referred the sikhs, as the militant arm of hinduism.

i could not but disagree more. hindus have to protect themselves. do not cede your commitments to take care of your own.

but then, that is a different thread.. is it not?

the bottom line: i feel, that with proper exercise and workouts, good healthy vegetarian food, may equalize all the inborn benefits of animal based proteins.

also, it is said, that an average american, has 5 pounds, of animal waste, residing in his colorectal system, at any one time. a cardinal reason to cancerous tissues, i feel.

thank you.

 

[s007bala]

dear krs

>>Dear Sri s007bala Ji,

Welcome back. We had to delete already a posting yesterday (you know why). I am editing this posting - such a comment may not be viewed as a 'joke' by everyone, however good intentioned you think it is. Please start self editing, or we may go down the same path we did before. Hope you understand. Thanks.

Regards,
KRS<<

thanks for editing.i shall cease and desist,in future not to joke in this forum with my sense of humor,which is being blatantly mis-understood.congrats on getting to become a moderator,and congrats to nacchinarkiniyan too,who has also become a moderator.

sb

 

[KRS]

Dear Sri s007bala Ji,

Thank you for your felicitation.

While we would like you to self edit your postings (please especially put yourself in the shoes of the person whose serious posting you are responding to), I did not mean to say that you should curb your enthusiasm for making jokes. Some people here find those kind of postings of yours to be funny and if your jokes are devoid of any direct attacks, any obscene remarks/situations, I do not see why you should cease and desist such postings.

If you notice, I have not edited your response in the 'Humour' thread.

Dear Sri Irreligious-Ji,

I edited Sri s007bala Ji's posting, not because it was particularly and blatantly mocking. But you could have perceived it to be so. And in keeping with the high standards of this Forum, I chose to edit out the concerned sentence. Thanks.

Regards,
KRS

 

[s007bala]

dear krs

>>If you notice, I have not edited your response in the 'Humour' thread.<<

i enjoyed this line and *****************..

sb

s007bala,

Please cut it out. This is my warning to you not to mock. If you continue in this path, your presence here will be again short lived. DO NOT GO DOWN THIS PATH.

KRS

 

[sapr333]

Somehow, I feel odd with a Pure-Veg concept. Its perfectly 'OK' , in the spiritual sense. Both the western and eastern religions follow ' Fasting' esp abstinence from meat.

I'm not here to say "Hitler was a Vegetarian". Instead of quoting few individualistic eg, lets take this concept of Pure-Veg diet as a mental/physical power booster, and look around the world to have a 'worldview' out of it, to prove the point.

1)How many Nobel prizes/Olympic medals were won by Vegetarians?

2) How about the healthcare index/life expectancy/Body mass index comparative study?

 

[sapr333]

ref post #13

Good work Moderator K.R.S.. You did a perfect job.


Thanks indeed for the timely, kind intervention in this thread.

Btw, after deletion,I hope the thread serial no. dont get altered

 

[s007bala]

re

Somehow, I feel odd with a Pure-Veg concept. Its perfectly 'OK' , in the spiritual sense. Both the western and eastern religions follow ' Fasting' esp abstinence from meat.

I'm not here to say "Hitler was a Vegetarian". Instead of quoting few individualistic eg, lets take this concept of Pure-Veg diet as a mental/physical power booster, and look around the world to have a 'worldview' out of it, to prove the point.

1)How many Nobel prizes/Olympic medals were won by Vegetarians?

2) How about the healthcare index/life expectancy/Body mass index comparative study?

sapr

actually very thought provoking points in your post.nevr indulged to such kind of research,regarding acheivements,life-expectancy.From a wild guess,i think non-veggies win hands down.

sb

 

[tbs]

sapr

actually very thought provoking points in your post.nevr indulged to such kind of research,regarding acheivements,life-expectancy.From a wild guess,i think non-veggies win hands down.

sb

hi all...
namaskarams...........i have to some truths about non veg....being
an army soldier served in indian army more than 17 years...meat
and alcohol are integral part of our army culture....infact sometime
non veg is important part of our daily menu...im south tamil brahmin
from strong vedic culture and veda patashala student...i never
had problem in army mess system...served in china/pakistan
borders with attending war/ insurgency i survived...once
my commanding officer a sardar told me...if you wont meat/alcohol
in army...i have to take another birth to complete my quota...
it was joking with me....i never had problem...im the only vegetarian
in my mess...im proud of being tamil brahmin...i persobally food/drink
is personal choice.... nothing KFC culture...

regards

 

[s007bala]

tbs

hats off to you.in such an army environment,you stuck to being a vegetarian.unlike me,i always yield to temptations

sb

 

[tbs]

tbs

hats off to you.in such an army environment,you stuck to being a vegetarian.unlike me,i always yield to temptations

sb

hi bala,
thank u so much... nice to see u again...so im called TBS...means
tamil brahmin smart(smartha) ..im called tbs here

regrads

 

[s007bala]

re

hi bala,
thank u so much... nice to see u again...so im called TBS...means
tamil brahmin smart(smartha) ..im called tbs here

regrads

tbs

for some reason,i always thot you are vaishnava not a smartha.thnx for correcting my mis-understanding.just reading,

"durvAsanA*pratIkAra*dashakam"
**
("Remedies*to*Counter*Negative*Habits"*in*Ten*Verses)
*
*
by*Swami*Vidyaranya*.dunno if i should upload this file.just too good about eating habits too.

sb

 

[tbs]

tbs

for some reason,i always thot you are vaishnava not a smartha.thnx for correcting my mis-understanding.just reading,

"durvAsanA*pratIkAra*dashakam"
**
("Remedies*to*Counter*Negative*Habits"*in*Ten*Verses)
*
*
by*Swami*Vidyaranya*.dunno if i should upload this file.just too good about eating habits too.

sb

hi bala.
namaskarams.... ANTHA SAKTAH... BAHIHI SAIVAHA.... VYVAHARE CHA
VAISHNAVAH....means i belong to as sakta inside...outside as saivaha
...behaving as vaishnavas......means i belong sarva dharma samanvyaha...is called
smartha....

regards

 

[s007bala]

re

hi bala.
namaskarams.... ANTHA SAKTAH... BAHIHI SAIVAHA.... VYVAHARE CHA
VAISHNAVAH....means i belong to as sakta inside...outside as saivaha
...behaving as vaishnavas......means i belong sarva dharma samanvyaha...is called
smartha....

regards

tbs

you are perfect definition of a sanathana dharmi,imho.

sb

 

[Seshadri Subramaniam]

Benefits of eating animal tissue?

a. Animal tissue (including eggs) provide the only assimilable source of Vitamin B12. Our body cannot utilize the B12 produced in plant cells. The B12 in your multi-vitamin pill does come from an animal source.

b. Animal proteins are also far more easily digested and assimilated by the body than plant proteins.


Oh yes, this Tam-Bram enjoys his chicken and turkey, and works in meat research...so flame away!

Milk and milk products and soy products are a source of B12...

I do not think that vitamin and protein intake should be the sole reason governing our food habits; tomorrow, if a rare vitamin is found in human meat, does that mean that people should start eating human flesh?

 

[Irreligious_One]

Kunjuppu,


I think you're straying from the point here with reference to that vegetarian Jat. If you notice, I made absolutely NO reference to body-building or anything of that sort. I am quoting actual scientific data based on numerous studies. That said, MILK is also animal tissue, and has B12 (but not in that high amounts as it is in flesh and albumin). So you lacto-vegetarians can relax That said, what you're stating with respect to the Jat is ONE instance. Probably there are a lot of people on this planet who are vegetarians and are good athletes, but their number is miniscule compared to athletes who are not vegetarians/vegans and the top-most athletes in the world (Lance Armstrong, Alex Ovechkin, Fedor Emelianenko, etc.) are most certainly not.

the bottom line: i feel, that with proper exercise and workouts, good healthy vegetarian food, may equalize all the inborn benefits of animal based proteins.

We haven't yet evolved to be complete herbivores. Humans are OBLIGATE OMNIVORES, and that's a scientific fact. Anyone in nutrition will disagree with you on this.

also, it is said, that an average american, has 5 pounds, of animal waste, residing in his colorectal system, at any one time. a cardinal reason to cancerous tissues, i feel.

That's got nothing to do with animal tissue consumption, but it has a lot to do with the lack of sufficient fiber in the diet. Plant fibers do a better job at regulating the bowel movements because they're not easily digestible by our system (which goes to my assimilation/biotransformation argument), wheras animal muscle fibers are easily digested via proteolyzing enzymes in our body. It is well known that the Western diet is known to lack a sufficient fibrous veggie and fruit diet, but it's changing now.

Cancerous growth in colon can be caused by the entrapment of waste, but a major reason for cancer due to food is due to the presence of free-radicals which are generated by the oxidation process due to cooking. That's why you see a new "raw foodist" movement happening. Of course, we in India eat a lot of anti-oxidant rich diet due to the availability of green veggies and fruits, which are not so abundantly consumed in the Western world. It's not like we don't consume a lot of free radicals in our food. We just have other anti-oxidizing ingredients in our diet to balance it.