How and why did mutts become commercialised? Their role in our future

[kameshratnam]

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This post is not to hurt the sentiments of any one. I am a devotee myself of the mutt

I went to seek the blessings of a mutt pontiff/s and during those it was very crowded and as usual our brahmin crowd was unorganised. We told people to stand in a queue they asked us " Do u work for the mutt" " Why shd i listen to u".

A man standing next to come shouted " Periva...i am from new jersey...my name is blah blah "...i just turned around and asked him " Sir WTF do u think of urself"...What if u are from USA...do u have 2 horns and then my friend pulled me away from him. USA means easy access??

Many a time i have been there and i saw only VIPs and rich families being entertained....

THEN CAME THE JOLT........

Post that i saw the crowd had dwindled..the rich men had disappeared...the people who wanted cases to be withdrawn...people who wanted promotions ran away too far...

I went to seek blessings again....What a respect all of us got.every one of us had an audience...seers spoke well with us..lines/queues were organised

THE MIDDLE CLASS supported the mutt and many of us gave vegetables, rich bags, daily essential products, flowers when the money and bank account were blocked

Why have the mutts become commercialized? Our children have many questions to be answered...

I still remember when a young boy asked the seer many years back as to why wars were waged across the world? the boy was simply asked to keep quiet

I sign off still in search of answers....Adi sankara knew everything but why this....

 

[Iyyarooraan]

All of us, the people of five continents, have made money the centre of (black hole) life. Then every thing that touches life becomes the servant of money. Is not the US the first country in the world which made money more important than other values. Hence money rules your life from craddle to grave and (ask the vaadhyars) after life too. How can the mutts escape the pulls? We are habitual queue jumpers and least self-disciplined. The logic is fortune favours the seeker; and not the 'moron' who is far behind in the "Q" orderly waiting for his turn. I really wonder why people should go to a mutt unless for giving large donation in cash. The mutt can reach you through online and you can do so the same way. But, I think habits die hard, and intelligence does not guide you on every thing in life. Mutts have no answer for everything. Actually they seek answers through people at large to help you, if they can.

 

[sangom]

maṭhams, (because the word mutt has a very different meaning, but may be irrelevant in some way to maṭhams) are today parking points for tax-evaded and all other type of tainted wealth. One maṭham-head said that many people donate moneys to maṭhams and it is very difficult to find out whether all those were untainted, when he was arrested.

While some of the old, established maṭhams are not actively in the race, many new swamijis start new maṭham or some of the unheard of maṭhams suddenly have a meteoric rise, due to funds so collected aggressively. Their major locales are naturally Mumbai and Delhi. You will find many maṭham heading straight to these two cities for their chaaturmaasya vratam.

Naturally, the maṭhams will have to be like any commercial enterprise and the richer persons with more money to spare will get better treatment. After all, if Lord Balaji can subsist in this manner why not mere human mortals like maṭham-heads?

As long as unearned income is there and a safe haven is required and since every one cannot hope to stash it in tax-havens abroad, maṭhams will be serving a "felt" social need. They will flourish in future.

 

[Nara]

.... You will find many maṭham heads head straight to these two cities for their chaaturmaasya vratam.

Naturally, the maṭhams will have to be like any commercial enterprise and the richer persons with more money to spare will get better treatment.

This is so true! The sanyasi matham head's birthday, chaturmasyam are seen as fund raising opportunities, so much so, the word sanyasee has lost all its meaning. Also, what I found most annoying as well as distressing is, the apparent competition among the sishyas who can tell the tallest story of total devotion to the acharya or miracles the acharya performed in their lives.

This reminds me a story of a slave owner going in disguise after two escaped slaves and finds them in a tavern. To capture them and bring them back without a scene he challenges the two to a story telling contest, i.e. who can tell the most unbelievable story. The wager is, the one who tells the most unbelievable story gets the other two as slaves.

The first slave says he was once chased by a hungry tiger and he got on top of a tall tree. After the tiger went way losing patience, he did not know how to get down. So, he went to the nearby village, brought a ladder and using it climbed down. The other two nodded that they believe it.

The second slave said when he was in his mother's womb she craved for mangoes. So, he climbed a mango tree and plucked some mangoes for her. The other two dutifully nodded and said they believed the story.

Now it was the turn of the slave-owner who was in disguise. His story was, he had two slaves escape from his farm and those two are you two. Either way their goose was cooked !

The two stories of the escaped slaves are not that unbelievable compared to some of the stories I have heard of sanyasee heads of Mathams.

Cheers!

 

[Govinda]

A man standing next to come shouted " Periva...i am from new jersey...my name is blah blah "...i just turned around and asked him " Sir WTF do u think of urself"...What if u are from USA...do u have 2 horns and then my friend pulled me away from him. USA means easy access??

Kamesh Sir,

Our Indians are un-organized, un-civilized, is the main point.

I recently attended an Acharya's birthday celebrations, one organizer distributed some pamphlets while the acharya was addressing the crowd. All the audience were after the pamphlets, free calendar etc. and hardly anyone paid attention to the speech, except some sAttvik scholars. One may see such incidents even in temples - they would simply cause stampedes in order to get the prasadam, kumkum etc. Such is our lack of attention to Jnana, Devotion compared to the silly materialism and distractions. Most times I would simply have a darshan of the deities or the Acharyas from far away and obtain their blessings unless there is less crowd.

Our people get easily tuned to those aspects of sentiments, selfishness, pride/ego etc. One may see such craziness in any gatherings be it temple, or grocery store or mutt etc. Our Indian men and women equally lack self-respect.

 

[Govinda]

Post that i saw the crowd had dwindled..the rich men had disappeared...the people who wanted cases to be withdrawn...people who wanted promotions ran away too far...

The mutt pontiffs and the acharyas that are based on our vedic traditions are themselves o.k. The rich group take up politics in their own hands and claim to own the mutts most-times. I would entertain that, as lot of rich are misers, they needed a reason for charity/donations. So, we should entertain them and make them contribute to establish the organizations.

Until recently we didnt have propularity for such mutts/asharams. Those who are devoted, we usually meet the acharyas during less crowded, unfamous days.

 

[Govinda]

After all, if Lord Balaji can subsist in this manner why not mere human mortals like maṭham-heads?

Sangaom Sir,

This is an offensive comparison. Lord Balaji is famous and Telugu community have long been following the Balaji Worship, and they were rich communities. Lord Balaji is called Sri-Dhara, who Himself is the owner of Wealth Goddess. So, He grants everyone wealth and prosperity. So, what are you claiming here?

Do you have any idea that TTD employs 40,000 workers, much greater than a multi-national company? And there are many social welfare schemes. They also have special darshans for the disabled/aged/infants, but umpteen facilities for the visitors. Our recent Indians are not very generous, only religion or commerce (elec./motors etc.) can motivate them to invest/donate. I don't see any problem in people donating to the mutts/temples or other organizations, which would inturn help a community.

But, there should be clear instructions/guidelines on how one should behave in such crowded gatherings. Even then, Knowledge and Practice are miles apart for humans!

 

[Govinda]

This is so true! The sanyasi matham head's birthday, chaturmasyam are seen as fund raising opportunities, so much so, the word sanyasee has lost all its meaning.

Why is that a problem for you? Such events are the ones that attract many crowds, and so collecting funds or sharing information during that major events would be easier. Time and again, I tell you, most Indians are misers, unless there are such emotional events, they wouldn't contribute. Sometimes the organizers themselves wouldn't contribute, but collect from the sincere devotees. But the organizers run the show!

Those days, kings donated lands and cows to the temples for daily rituals/aradhana and festivities. Over centuries and slipping through hands, these temple deities are without proper care and worship. Only these funds can help support those activities. Though TTD support few temples, lot of others are reliant on the mutt's support.

People are crazy to shell out lakhs of rupees for stupid light music during marriages, but not 5000Rs. for those vedic priests who might wish you well and give value based advices for married life. People are ignorant!

 

[Govinda]

Also, what I found most annoying as well as distressing is, the apparent competition among the sishyas who can tell the tallest story of total devotion to the acharya or miracles the acharya performed in their lives.

Why does that bother you? Everyone's guru/acharya is important for them.

If the Lord Himself agrees upon the variety in the seekers, why do you want to be an 'idealist' that everyone should be completely conscious rather than being proud and mouthful?

Sri Krishna says this in the Gita 7.16,17:
'Four kinds of pious men render devotional service unto Me--the distressed, the desirer of wealth, the inquisitive, and he who is searching for knowledge of the Absolute. Of these, the wise one who is in full knowledge in union with Me through pure devotional service is the best. For I am very dear to him, and he is dear to Me.'

 

[Govinda]

I still remember when a young boy asked the seer many years back as to why wars were waged across the world? the boy was simply asked to keep quiet

I sign off still in search of answers....Adi sankara knew everything but why this....

I remember my young days, when I met the sankarAcharyas few times. My mother would instruct us to inquire the guru about our future. I feel silly about that now. The people and others should simply visit such revered people for darshan rather than any queries. People esp. parents should educated themselves through the discourses, books, lectures etc. and educate their children, and not waste the gurus's time.

Why should the kid want to know about the wars, when he was not even taught about self-discipline first? yatha parents, thata silly kids!

Gurus, acahryas, vedic scholars often give series of discourses/kalakshEpams . We don't want to devote our time away from TV, concerts, entertainment, crazy snacking, shopping etc. But would want the scholars answer our random question on candid camera! Silly Hindus!

 

[happyhindu]

Shri Kameshratnam,

Instead of blaming mutts, politics, etc, etc around us, let us take a good look at ourselves. Whatever is around us, is a reflection of who we are. WE are commercial -- that's the starting point and ending point. Change, if any, has to come from within us. But we think, "others are not changing so why should i change". It maybe natural to feel that way.

Which is why the masses seem to like the idea of a group change. The idea of "You and Me both Change" is very appealing. Which is possibly why Anna Hazare is getting such wide support -- because it plays on mass-psycology and gives everyone a platform for mass change.

Regards.

 

[kameshratnam]

Sri Govinda,

Sri Nara is very right. Brahmins boast a lot. The guru wud have been in mouna vratham but our people will come and say that he spoke only to me.

I know a lot of people who come and boast about their closeness with some gurus and they wud say the guru speaks them only. Also, i have seen this cult in one of the religious groups based out of andhra pradesh. they are equal to christian missionaries..the minute they know u are not a believer ..they will start talking about the miracles

Why does that bother you? Everyone's guru/acharya is important for them.

If the Lord Himself agrees upon the variety in the seekers, why do you want to be an 'idealist' that everyone should be completely conscious rather than being proud and mouthful?

Sri Krishna says this in the Gita 7.16,17:
'Four kinds of pious men render devotional service unto Me--the distressed, the desirer of wealth, the inquisitive, and he who is searching for knowledge of the Absolute. Of these, the wise one who is in full knowledge in union with Me through pure devotional service is the best. For I am very dear to him, and he is dear to Me.'

 

[C RAVI]

Sri Govinda,

Sri Nara is very right. Brahmins boast a lot. The guru wud have been in mouna vratham but our people will come and say that he spoke only to me.

I know a lot of people who come and boast about their closeness with some gurus and they wud say the guru speaks them only. Also, i have seen this cult in one of the religious groups based out of andhra pradesh. they are equal to christian missionaries..the minute they know u are not a believer ..they will start talking about the miracles

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In all walk of life you can find boastful brahmins, non brahmins, christians, muslims etc...You can find crazy people everywhere around you. If you open your eyes and see properly you can find millions of people with humility, descipline and respect for others.

Why to bother people who are boasting that Guruji is speaking to them only? What's the guarantee that such people are telling the truth?

A group of religious people explaining the miracles of their guruji to non believers are common atleast in India. Let them be happy with what they believe in and what hey want to present to non believers. Non believers have the choice of pondering on it or just ignore it and move on.

As Shri Govinda has stated, we Indians first need to develop the sense of descipline, respect to others and self, social responsibility and sensible thoughts about the actual purposes of our Hindu Matts.



PS. In my above post, "you" is not to point out any member here.

 

[sangom]

Silly Hindus!

तथास्तु!

 

[sangom]

Shri Kameshratnam,

Instead of blaming mutts, politics, etc, etc around us, let us take a good look at ourselves. Whatever is around us, is a reflection of who we are. WE are commercial -- that's the starting point and ending point. Change, if any, has to come from within us. But we think, "others are not changing so why should i change". It maybe natural to feel that way.

Smt. HH,

I agree ordinary householders are commercial, and probably frugal to a fault and materialistic. But these are the engines which make you and me - the hoi polloi, if I may include you also in that category - to slog it out till, or even after, retirement, earn and continue to earn so that the society thrives - our children get good education, good and legal sources of income, then they marry and generations follow. if the householders turn too much, and in large numbers, towards the spiritual or the devotional and go after swamijis/cults, the society will get crippled in due course.

Hence a good householder will have set his priorities according to his light and earmarked what is due to God/temple/swami to them and what is due to his own family, to it. It is not a question of "others are not changing so why should i change". For any wise grihasta, it is rather, "others may or may not be changing, but this is what I think best for me, according to what God has bestowed on me." And we should also not forget that any good householder - even those who may, for some reasons, be overemphasizing the spiritual, the esoteric, disparaging the material world, praising religion/scriptures skyhigh, etc. - will definitely know that god or his guru's supra-human siddhid won't come of any use if tomorrow he/she begets a child which may require costly neo-natal treatment. (My cousin's son, an IT bigwig, has reportedly spent more than a crore of rupees to make his first born son grow up to two and a half years; reason - his doctor wife did not have the ability to carry the pregnancy to its natural end and the child was ejected while she sat down in the clinic (lucky).)

Which is why the masses seem to like the idea of a group change. The idea of "You and Me both Change" is very appealing. Which is possibly why Anna Hazare is getting such wide support -- because it plays on mass-psycology and gives everyone a platform for mass change.

Regards.

Happy,

Changing a mass of people is a very great task, not achieved by any of the great personages, ancient and modern. Buddha could do it on a very large scale, I suppose but the change did not sustain. Gandhi, Vivekananda, take any example, failed in changing the indian society. Perhaps Macaulay may be said to have succeeded where other very great names did not!

IMHO, changing the present indian society towards better civic sense and obedience of law, will require a benevolent dictator, or a foreign insurrection and autocracy.

 

[kameshratnam]

The experiences which i have put in this topic are real. I was sincere but i could not even go near them. I did not want exclusive access..even if they speak for 2 mins i wanted ONLY attention...is it wrong to expect that.. i pay my taxes properly. i have not cheated any one neither bribed any one ...

Once a seer came to a place of my friend..we took photos and that evening my friend showed the seer the photos. i was shocked.. the seer was talking to some one and his hands were changing one photo to the other and at last he said good... I felt bad....

Another friend of mine went to meet a senior seer he asked my friend : hmmm unga area la sq ft enna rate??? wht was this question for??

 

[sangom]

The experiences which i have put in this topic are real. I was sincere but i could not even go near them. I did not want exclusive access..even if they speak for 2 mins i wanted ONLY attention...is it wrong to expect that.. i pay my taxes properly. i have not cheated any one neither bribed any one ...

Once a seer came to a place of my friend..we took photos and that evening my friend showed the seer the photos. i was shocked.. the seer was talking to some one and his hands were changing one photo to the other and at last he said good... I felt bad....

Another friend of mine went to meet a senior seer he asked my friend : hmmm unga area la sq ft enna rate??? wht was this question for??

Shri Kamesh,

There is a basic peculiarity in hindu religion. By convention our sanyasis are looked upon as some semi-divine beings capable of many superhuman feats including changing your bad look by just one touch or look and all those kinds of "imagined" greatness. This is clear from your own words, "even if they speak for 2 mins i wanted ONLY attention...is it wrong to expect that".

Don't you know that all these swamijis, gurus, walking godheads, godmen/godwomen, the entire clan, so to say, are all just ordinary human mortals, born to human parents in the ordinary way; they probably have a very high religious indoctrination during their formative years and sometimes their ambitions to become highly successful persons in the secular world are mercilessly killed. Even if they do not have such yearnings, they are restricted in ever so many ways so as to conform in all respects, to the popular notions of a "highly spiritually evolved" sanyasi.

Besides all these, these swamijis, gurus, walking godheads, godmen/godwomen, have to keep their establishment going, that too it has to expand much like any MNC. Unlike in the olden days royal patronage and continuous donations etc., cannot be envisaged today by any one of these unless he has carefully built a proper funds-flow stream. This is more easily said than done. So, naturally their first and foremost attention will be towards cash-cows among their so-called devotees. Others are expendable.
ya evaṃ veda | āyatanavān bhavati|

 

[Govinda]

Smt. HH
I agree ordinary householders are commercial, and probably frugal to a fault and materialistic. But these are the engines which make you and me - the hoi polloi, if I may include you also in that category - to slog it out till, or even after, retirement, earn and continue to earn so that the society thrives - our children get good education, good and legal sources of income, then they marry and generations follow. if the householders turn too much, and in large numbers, towards the spiritual or the devotional and go after swamijis/cults, the society will get crippled in due course.

This view has the most frail logic.

Ordinary people are not simply materialistic for reasons of duty, but forever monetary-driven even after the retirement. So, the materialism is simply their ignorance and addiction, selfishness, shortsightedness.

Our Brahmin elders of this generation complain about their sons/daughters being away to foreign lands and deserted them, but are proud their sons gave them 5 mansions and bank-accounts. But the same oldies would still find ways to earn money from language translations, astrology, real-estates, stocks etc. So, the greed for money is endless. What responsibility these oldies have now, why can't they be spiritual, reflect on their past-experiences and devote on self-realization?

All the single parents, middle-aged, seniors in US devote their time on Volunteer work, can you count any one of these indian retirees devote on free public service - on education, health advices, sharing their own industry experiences, promoting green/white revolution in villages, learn and propagate our scriptural values/philosophy???

Why can't they (including the youth) atleast do kainkaryam in temples? Even the old aunties would beautify them and go for clubs, pot-lucks for gossips. Why don't these women go to temples, help organize the festivals, make garlands, teach slokas for free etc.?

How would you think, their own kids would be interested in societies/people/family? All the women just want to be high-heeled [on EGO] and work for 50 years of career and don't care a damn about spending time with the family.

When did these young women decide to stop after 10 years of employment, and said 'Enough', and spent on the spiritual/family side. What the heck the career would have taught them? Why can't they devote on enriching their own self, their kids and being nice to the parents and the needy? The greediness and materialism are endless, Spirituality is a Fashion for us, 'me' included !!

Hence a good householder will have set his priorities according to his light and earmarked what is due to God/temple/swami to them and what is due to his own family, to it.

So, your claim that people would get stuck up with religion/mutts and cannot devote to family duties is a plain hog-wash. All those hindus who go temples/mutts are simply to boast of their richness [so they should be milked!], or pray for their endless prosperity **, and spend their past-times to boast on their religiosity. [I understand the frustations of lot of good people, who eventually become agnostic/atheists/anti-religion, as they are equally emotionally-driven ].

** Endless prosperity - meaning they want to just pray to Ganesh [to remove obstacles for earning money and get rid of the aged-parents!] and Lakshmi [to bestow all the wealth]. How ridiculous! the new age materialists separated the divya-dampatis, when Parasara Muni has quoted Lakshmi as BrahmAni and Vishnus-ca Patni, voluminously/vehemently in Vishnu Purana. [as in Rig Suktams]

For any wise grihasta, it is rather, ...And we should also not forget that any good householder - even those who may, for some reasons, be overemphasizing the spiritual, the esoteric, disparaging the material world, praising religion/scriptures skyhigh, etc. - will definitely know that god or his guru's supra-human siddhid won't come of any use if tomorrow he/she begets a child which may require costly neo-natal treatment. 

That was another biggest joke! Seriously, which century are you talking about?

One who is really spiritual would be seriously dutiful and not greedy, who live a good example for their kids to follow them. Such spiritual persons would perform actions based on right knowledge, and their Knowledge/thinking would involve right actions.

karmany akarma yah pasyed akarmani ca karma yah
sa buddhiman manusyesu sa yuktah krtsna-karma-krt Gita 4:18

People assume that karma needs no thoughts and thoughts (a-karma) need no actions. The above verse, states that One can perceive, by constant contemplation on the truth about the self, that the action that is being performed is in itself a form of knowledge. One can also perceive that this Self-Knowledge is also of the form of Karma because of its being contained in the Karma Yoga.

 

[Govinda]

Once a seer came to a place of my friend..we took photos and that evening my friend showed the seer the photos. i was shocked.. the seer was talking to some one and his hands were changing one photo to the other and at last he said good... I felt bad....

This is kali-yuga! so called seer also has less attention-span, low on listening like most of the Indian public. I never knew that was contagious!

]Another friend of mine went to meet a senior seer he asked my friend : hmmm unga area la sq ft enna rate??? wht was this question for??

You should be happy that the seer was open about that, whereas lot of gurus/swamis have private counsels.

 

[kameshratnam]

Sri Govinda,

the person who asked the sq ft rate IS a Sankaracharya!!!!

This is kali-yuga! so called seer also has less attention-span, low on listening like most of the Indian public. I never knew that was contagious!



You should be happy that the seer was open about that, whereas lot of gurus/swamis have private counsels.

 

[B.Krishnamurthy]

Dear Shri.Govinda,
If you are in Chennai,Please visit"Hindu Mission Health Services" in Tambaram and Nanganallur.Retired people do voluntary work.In my earlier visits,I found that they were charging consultation fees of Rs.2/- for MBBS Doctor,Rs.10 for MDs and Rs.75/- for specialist consultation.
All people irrespective of caste,creed religion get medical treatment and large number of people are taking advantage of this Hospital.
I wish this concept is introduced throughout the country.People do volunteer service in India without publicity.
Late Shri.Nanaji Desmukh (formerly of JS) rejected a ministerial berth when offered in central Govt and spent his whole life serving poor people in a backward area in UP.People of India did not recognise his work,but appreciated the work of only Mother Thressa.
Recently I read in internet that a Doctor is serving tribal people of Gujarat and charging only Rs.2/ for consultation.When he found that as a MBBS doctor,his knowkedge was limited.He qualified himself as a MD and now devoted his life for betterment of tribals.
Unfortunately,we do not come to know of such persons.

 

[sangom]

Dear Shri.Govinda,
If you are in Chennai,Please visit"Hindu Mission Health Services" in Tambaram and Nanganallur.Retired people do voluntary work.In my earlier visits,I found that they were charging consultation fees of Rs.2/- for MBBS Doctor,Rs.10 for MDs and Rs.75/- for specialist consultation.
All people irrespective of caste,creed religion get medical treatment and large number of people are taking advantage of this Hospital.
I wish this concept is introduced throughout the country.People do volunteer service in India without publicity.
Late Shri.Nanaji Desmukh (formerly of JS) rejected a ministerial berth when offered in central Govt and spent his whole life serving poor people in a backward area in UP.People of India did not recognise his work,but appreciated the work of only Mother Thressa.
Recently I read in internet that a Doctor is serving tribal people of Gujarat and charging only Rs.2/ for consultation.When he found that as a MBBS doctor,his knowkedge was limited.He qualified himself as a MD and now devoted his life for betterment of tribals.
Unfortunately,we do not come to know of such persons.

I do not know if Shri Govinda is located in India or the US. But from the way he praises oldies in post#18 thus—

All the single parents, middle-aged, seniors in US devote their time on Volunteer work, can you count any one of these indian retirees devote on free public service - on education, health advices, sharing their own industry experiences, promoting green/white revolution in villages, learn and propagate our scriptural values/philosophy???,

I feel he is in US (at least temporarily, may be he has gone there for a particular IT project, just as he went to Germany and put application to god in a church for successful completion of the project) and is mostly attracted and taken over by the way of life there. From that distant stand-point, he has temporarily forgotten India it seems.

Many people here do voluntary service but, as far as the tabras here are concerned, they seem to find religious activities to be the most precious. I do not see people with 5 mansions still going after more money from stock exchanges though I know of some people without pensions devoting their time & attention to stock-markets so that they will get some income and can live without sponging on their sons/daughters.

Shri govinda appears to be in a sort of narcissistic coccoon - he is the epitome of virtue, bhakti, religiosity and what not, God Supreme will have to consider him as the new age Dhruva!, though he admits that spirituality is a fashion for him.

 

[kameshratnam]

one of the greatest reasons for the current day youth not visiting temples are these mutts.

My neighbor had been to sankara matham near chithra kulam near mylapore for confirming a ceremony and i was told by her as to how she was yelled at by the sastrigal.

The more things like these happen...people will simply stop doing things

 

[shreeramachandran]

In these days we are in vain pursuit of material wealth. The age is like that since every age had its own color. The craze for money is only because there is no safety of the future.
Once I went to a mutt with lot of aged women waiting for nearly four hours to have darshan of Pontiff. one person of the mutt told the crowd that Pontiff was seeing cricket match on TV!. I questioned him how can it be when he has renounced everything including his sacred thread. He retorted me that he would not answer and asked me to get out. After the noise, the Pontiff came out and offered theertham that too only for sumangalis. What is this wisdom of a Pontiff to refuse to a widow? What about offering to a divorcee? No girl child is a widow right from birth and the POntiff who is supposed to be guru for the society has no business to differentiate between persons irrespective of being widow or widower or divorcee. Yes some one wrote that the mutts have become commercial centres with the tons of wealth idling without use for the society which is hungry and thirsty for the health and housing welfare schemes.
Think about yourself. Do you think any one other than yourself know about you and your mind better than yourself? Why am I madly running behind them?Question yourself for your failures and lack of foresight and carefulness. You will find answer. What ever that has to happen in my life is already decided even before I was born and nothing else will be. There are quite a number of fake samiyars indulging in cheating business. I saw one advertisement that he would offer idol made of nava pashanam with which the palani idol was made. Just think about the validity of some great bogus stories making circulation about the palani idol. In purananooru, there is no reference to the existence of palani and the idol. Purananooru is not 5000 years old. The siddar who made the idol was supposed to have made it 5000 years ago using nava pashanam and he has hidden a second one in the hill itself. This is a highly debatable one. As per silpa sastra, the silpi, kal thachan selects the suitable male rock,(they say so) to make pillars, carvings, idols etc.,In our temples we see the idols are as fresh even now. When that is so, what is the need for a second idol to be hidden? This is a raw lie propagated by our bahkthi magazines. As one pandaram told me forty years ago, the idol was only an idol. It was a natural formation in that shape by semi rock and hard mud. These dissolve when humidity, high moisture and heat are high when liquid materials also when poured over idol. The idol got dissolved due to these factors only. YOu see similar in Kancheepuram city where numerous idols in old unattended temples with hands broken, nose disfigured etc.,These are of the semi rock affected by the moisture laden wind, rain humidity and summer heat.
There is what is known as Ajna chakra in the form of six cornered twin inverted triangles between the eye brows, above the nose. That is known as saravanabava. It is also known as third eye.it is opened by chakra practisers in themselves. So do not go for search of god anywhere, he is already there in you. No one knows you better than yourself. have confidence. Have knowledge. Fear comes only when we do not know about anything. For example, If i have known the technique of walking over fire without being harmed, I am not afraid of fire. If I know how to walk on water without being drowned, I will not be afraid of walking over water. similar. Fear stems from lack of knowledge. ACquire knowledge. You can save yourselves from atomic holocust if you have the knowledge. I understand that germans and britishers have taken lot of our palm leaves containing rare knowledge and are available in Cambridge as per the version of one of the scholars who went there. They are all sanskirit texts. They are well preserved and microfilmed. If any of our great scholars can open that vast treasure, we will be exposed to the sort of knowledge we have not heard of. Will any of our brethren in Britain endeavour about this. Well Why not we tamilbrahmins generate a corpus fund for getting the copies for study by competent learned men thorough in the vedic literature. I must be grateful for our ancestors for their palm leaf literature

 

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What do we expect the Mutts to be.
It is a religious business. I might have reverence for a guru for his teaching, but he might have a different motive. His handlers may have totally different agenda.

So if I like Apple-products say iphone, try to meet Mr. Jobs, and he turns out to be jerk. I just not try to meet him again. I still use his products, or in protest change to a android-phone. The choice is still with me.

Similarly if I do not like xyz-mutt I can go abc-mutt. Why complain and belittle xyz-mutt, upsetting the xyz-mutt followers.