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Jay Kay Ji,

I don't want to drag this thread further. But the fact remains that I don’t support people of East, West, North or South. I just sincerely go by the following verses of Kaniyan Poongundranar, an ancient Tamil Poet:

கணியன் பூங்குன்றனாரின் :
யாதும் ஊரே யாவரும் கேளீர்
And
‘Vasudev Kutumbagam’ which is what actually inscribed in a stone at India's Parliament house!

Meaning: This is my own and that a stranger – that is the calculation of the narrow minded

For the magnanimous hearts however, the entire earth is but a family –
ancient Sanskrit shloka

As for practicing racism, by west, I would like to draw your attention to the fact of racism practiced in our motherland.

Just for a sample, please go through this following news item:


"Let's stop pretending there's no racism in India"

By Yengkhom Jilangamba

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INSENSITIVE MAINLAND: Students from the north-east protesting instances of discrimination. Photo: V.V. Krishnan

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Most Indians think racism exists only in the West and see themselves as victims. It's time they examined their own attitudes towards people from the country's North-East

The mysterious death of Loitam Richard in Bangalore, the murder of Ramchanphy Hongray in New Delhi, the suicide by Dana Sangma and other such incidents serve as reminders of the insecure conditions under which people, particularly the young, from the north-east of India have to live with in the metros of this country. What these deaths have in common is that the three individuals were all from a certain part of the country, had a “particular” physical appearance, and were seen as outsiders in the places they died. These incidents have been read as a symptom of the pervasive racial discrimination that people from the region face in metropolitan India.

An institutionalised form


Quite expectedly, such an assertion about the existence of racism in India will not be taken seriously; the response will be to either remain silent or refuse to acknowledge this form of racism or, fiercely, to reject it. Ironically, most Indians see racism as a phenomenon that exists in other countries, particularly in the West, and without fail, see themselves as victims. They do not see themselves harbouring (potentially) racist attitudes and behaviour towards others whom they see as inferior.

But time and again, various groups of people, particularly from the north-east have experienced forms of racial discrimination and highlighted the practice of racism in India. In fact, institutionalised racism has been as much on the rise as cases of everyday racism in society.

Read more at: Let's stop pretending there's no racism in India - The Hindu

One cannot simply escape under the pretext that this news is out dated.. There are umpteen numbers of such atrocities happening now and then.

Truth is always bitter.

So, let us try to set our house in order first.

Cheers:-)
 
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Balusir,
You live in Today's India (In Chennai). How dare you point to failings of Indians.
According to some members here it is all manufactured by that "the Hindu". There is no discrimination in India. All stories are only in English media. You must only read Vernacular bulletins put out by "the chosen" party.
Truth is always bitter.

So, let us try to set our house in order first.
 
VB JI –

Lets get something clear – Indians are not racist – the issue of North east is a immigration problem. If the entire country lands in Mumbai or Bangalore or Chennai etc.., then you will have the push back like you have today – outsiders will be viewed suspiciously & asked to go back. That is NOT racism, it is at best regionalism, more of an immigrant issue, etc…

Did we hear about north east issue in the last 60 yrs ?. we are only hearing now, since they are migrating out in very large numbers… leading to insiders/outsiders issue etc…

What about the Kannada/Tamil, Tamil/Telugu issues in thepast ?. Do you call this regionalism or racism????

In Mumbai, no one was singled out & discriminated due to their “race or ethnicity”. Initially the local marathis were against South Indians since they were the largest migrants, now they are against UP & Bihar.

In short, Indians are not “discriminating against a specific race” – it is a fight against huge immigration where ever this comes from.

Phew – now that we have got that cleared.

Lets come to your “Truth is bitter statement”

‘Sorry to burst all your bubble – Whites hate us for our race, ethnicity… they hate the Indians, they hate the minorities - blacks, Hispanics, Asians, etc.. – see the innumerable “racist hatred” posts against us in the Internet by the vast majority of the whites – look at the message boards in CNN, CBS, NBC news websites,etc…

Look at the number of racist incidents reported in the international media in the last 2 yrs, unprecedented attacks, institutionalized racism against minorities by the Police, one of the official reports itself says the police is openly discriminating based on race, etc…

Anyways, no point in continuing this conversation - we are going to keep re-hashing what is already posted in the previews threads. If you think west is great despite all this, please continue to do so… :)

Cheers,
 
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Jaykay Ji,

I don't say any where in my post as 'west is great'.

Thanks for the time spent on this thread.

It is a nice experience to interact with you.

Cheers.:)
 
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Jaykay Ji,

I don't say any where in my post as 'west is great'.

Thanks for the time spent on this thread.

It is a nice experience to interact with you.

Cheers.:)
hi

there is tamil proverb...here some think like that....பூனை கன்னை மூடி பாலை குடுக்கும் பொது நினைக்குமாம்.....இந்த உலகமும்

இருட்டா இருக்கும் என்று .....

அது மாதிரி வேற ஒஊரிலே மட்டும் தான் racism ...நம்ம ஊரிலே இல்லை என்று....
 
hi

there is tamil proverb...here some think like that....பூனை கன்னை மூடி பாலை குடுக்கும் பொது நினைக்குமாம்.....இந்த உலகமும்

இருட்டா இருக்கும் என்று .....

அது மாதிரி வேற ஒஊரிலே மட்டும் தான் racism ...நம்ம ஊரிலே இல்லை என்று....


You are right Sir.

The writer has rightly reported in his article as under:

"Quite expectedly, such an assertion about the existence of racism in India will not be taken seriously; the response will be to either remain silent or refuse to acknowledge this form of racism or, fiercely, to reject it."

I expected such a rejection.

Why practise of caste discrimination, language discrimination, regional discrimination,etc

We talk lot about our Tamil poet Bharathiar who said:

காக்கை குருவி எங்கள் ஜாதி !!
 
Racism is intense hatred for people of so called different race, exhibited by the white, to the extent of enslaving them, depriving them of dignity abnd livelihood.

I wonder why the attacks on shias, yezdis, ismails by the sunnis and wahabis is not called racism. Ans the attacks on other denominations by christians.
 
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