India's Daughter... is she?

[V.Balasubramani]

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Mr. Bala,
This is sarcasm for you.

Wait till you get attacked as India-hater, and Hindu-hater, because you criticize the defender of India.
You dare to read English-media, dont you know that they are Hindu-bashers. You must only read the village rag.
You dare to praise the concept of the documentary. How can we allow foreigner to air our dirty laundry.

Sir,

There is already ban on Beef. Discussion going on this subject in another thread.

There is ban on India's Daughter documentary.

Just banning TV serials, Books, Selfies, Spam mails is not the remedy. But that is what is happening.

It is reported that the Supreme Court has not heard the Nirbhaya case for the past one year. Why there is delay in disposing such a gruesome case expeditiously, especially when the trial is being conducted in a ‘Fast Track Court’.

The delay is inexplicable.

The saying is 'Justice delayed in justice denied'.

 

[prasad1]

[h=2]Mere Sapnon ki Rani… not to be wooed, but raped & killed[/h] Shobhaa De
Going by the twisted “confessions” of the rapists and defence lawyers interviewed by British documentary maker Leslee Udwin, I keep going back to a catchy Bollywood song that had captured the imagination of moviegoers way back in the ’70s and ’80s.

It remains popular to this day. A lovelorn man (Rajesh Khanna) serenades his girlfriend (Sharmila Tagore), and millions of hearts flutter in darkened theatres. While the innocence of the picturization remains touchingly naïve and appealing to viewers across generations, one wonders what really goes on inside the heads of men like Mukesh Singh when they listen to the lyrics and visualize their personal ‘Sapnon ki Rani’? Is that unattainable fantasy woman a reigning screen diva? Or is the woman of his dreams a vulnerable 23-year-old student, looking to get home after watching a movie with a guy pal? Does the sight of a female clad in jeans, laughing and joking with a male buddy, set Mukesh Singh’s libido on fire? Or does the scene make him go crazy with rage and frustration? Drive him crazy enough to rape the innocent girl, torture and brutalize her… before killing her? This man does not think of the consequences. He doesn’t really care if he rots in jail. Or is hanged for committing such a heinous crime. At that moment, all he wants to do is “fix” the girl. The girl of his nasty, perverted ‘dream’.
This is the real message of the documentary that has generated so much political heat in India. Innumerable men (and a lot of women, too!) in our mentally warped country, believe that young girls today are going “too far” and must be reined in before it’s “too late”. Too late — for what? I think the answer is obvious: too late for men to reassert absolute control over them. One of the defence lawyers interviewed by Udwin compares women to sweets lying by the roadside, and states flatly that society shouldn’t react if they are attacked by stray dogs scavenging for food. We recoil hearing those awful words. But, it’s important to remember he is not speaking just for himself, he is speaking on behalf of millions of men with identical mindsets, who believe daughters, wives, sisters should be locked up at home, in order to “protect” them.

http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatime...&utm_campaign=TOInewHP&utm_medium=Widget_Stry

 

[tks]

Thank you ! These are the posts that I referred to in my OP.

Without going through the posts in detail, I recollect that there were two broad approaches - one: that tended to think that it was all about display of power, and, two: that in most sections of the society (in India) people tend to associate scanty dressing with loose morals.

The interview with the rapist brings home the glaring point that "in the view of the society" people who dress scantily, who are seen at night, etc are construed to be women of loose morals, and hence, are more likely to be trifled with.

Sri auh

I remember the discussions (Nice that Sri Prasad posted the links).

I did not view the discussions to be categorized as two broad approaches being at odds with one another.

Knowing that society has such (backward) views, it is better for women to be careful. In that sense the advice of some of the members to dress properly is a sage advice. In any case no man or woman should dress inappropriately against the social norms (which is a way of showing respect to the local norms).

However there are backward thinking people that want to strictly define what is considered inappropriate and are ready to teach a lesson for a woman who they term as immoral by their own criteria.

Such views of a backward thinking society cannot be changed easily. Nor is it acceptable to live in fear for women.

Since the cops and government officials are by and large corrupt, the best short term action is for groups of people to resort to vigilantism when law enforcement is inept or does not care.

Here is a de-brief of an episode on Gulab Gang aired by a magazine show called VICE (HBO) last year. It is about a group of village woman training to protect themselves since the cops are part of the problem.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vj2UM8132-k

If anyone has access to HBOgo they may want to login and watch the episode in full.

I think it is time for women to get past the deniers and impotent bureaucrats and teach men with ancient ideas that "No means No no matter what the reasons are". And that there would be consequences with or without the help of law enforcement.

I hope the younger generation resort to new inventions to thwart a would-be-rapist. I admired many young (women) engineers that came up with protective devices after the Nirbhaya incident.

A boy from Gujarat invents new rape prevention device - Oneindia
11 Anti-Rape Devices For Women That Actually Exist
Students come up with anti-rape gadgets, innovative clothing | Business Line

Bottom line - Dress carefully but there are bad guys out there who cannot be negotiated with- so deal back with force that is 10 times more harmful than what their intent might be! Would be rapists have to know that if they cross the line there will be no more 'Ms Nice' out there.

 

[prasad1]

On the International Women’s Day, Prime Minister Narendra Modi on Sunday denounced crimes against women, saying “our heads hang in shame,” and announced that the government was setting up ‘One-Stop Centres’ besides a helpline for those facing violence, abuse or harassment.

“I salute the indomitable courage and stellar achievements of women. Today, we renew our pledge to make women an equal and integral
part of our development journey,” he said in a statement.

“Our heads hang in shame when we hear of instances of crime against women. We must walk shoulder-to-shoulder to end all forms of discrimination or injustice against women,” he said.

I hope all follow his advice, so all Indians can walk with head held high, honestly.

 

[krish44]

All this hue and cry about rape is unwarranted and overdone.

the chances of anyone getting raped/molested in india is 1 in 5 -6 lakhs ie .00002 percent chance if even one assumes there is a rape once in

twenty minutes anywhere in india. highly improbable it could happen to anyone with a bit of sense of security and

common sense,

most of it is hype of western media, indians abroad and some socialites whom nobody respects in india.

media blows it up for eyeballs

they give the impression that every male is out to rape some female or other.

this is rape season in media for sensation lovers.

soon it will be the cricket world cup and rape will be forgotten.

we also had acid throwing ,blindings stories and encounter tamasha .

people look at them .

we have voyeuristic viewers.

others do not care and go about their business.

we are a very mature country

 

[sarang]

One act, but reasons (true or assigned or justified) are many.

Whatever be the culture or civilizational level, a common thread runs through the explanation of perpetrators and society. In fact what prompted the rapist to act and the reason/justification he gives after the act may have no connection. In the bbc documentary too, the producer did not interview other convicts, and duped him in a sense that they were not recording his views because he was shy and answered in monosyllables during filming.

From a Mail on line article:

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[h=1]Women 'to blame' for being raped[/h]A third of Britons believe a woman who acts flirtatiously is partially or completely to blame for being raped, according to a new study.
More than a quarter also believe a woman is at least partly responsible for being raped if she wears sexy or revealing clothing, or is drunk, the study found.
One in five think a woman is partly to blame if it is known she has many sexual partners, while more than a third believe she is responsible to some degree if she has clearly failed to say "no" to the man.
In each of these scenarios a slightly greater proportion of men than women held these views - except when it came to being drunk, when it was equal.
In fact more women (5pc) than men (3pc) thought a woman was "totally responsible" for being raped if she was intoxicated.

ICM interviewed a random sample of 1,095 adults aged 18+ by telephone.
They were given a series of scenarios and asked to indicate whether they believed a woman was totally responsible, partially responsible or not at all responsible for being raped.
If the woman was drunk, 4pc said she was totally responsible and 26pc said she was partially responsible.
If the woman behaved in a flirtatious manner, 6pc said she was totally responsible and 28pc said she was partially responsible.
If the woman failed to say "no" clearly to the man, 8pc said she was totally responsible and 29pc said she was partially responsible.
If the woman was wearing sexy or revealing clothing, 6pc said she was totally responsible and 20pc said she was partially responsible.
If it is known that the woman has many sexual partners, 8pc said she was totally responsible and 14pc said she was partially responsible.
If she is alone and walking in a dangerous or deserted area, 5pc said she was totally responsible and 17pc said she was partially responsible.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-369262/Women-blame-raped.html

 

[sarang]

Senior female surgeon urges trainees to stay silent on sex abuse in hospitals

The documentary 'India's daughter' was made for special reasons, with special money, and special permissions which nobody owns. The producer has made her millions by selling the rights to several countries, and to devalue india and indians.
This is another tejpal type story at the workplace from down under, deserves a sleazy documentary, because the environment is sterile and clean, and white.

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"A senior surgeon has been criticised for her "appalling" suggestion that surgical trainees should stay silent if they're sexually assaulted by a colleague because coming forward could ruin their careers.
Dr Gabrielle McMullin, a Sydney vascular surgeon, says sexism is so rife among surgeons in Australia that young woman in the field should probably just accept unwanted sexual advances.
She referred to the case of Caroline, who won a case against a surgeon accused of sexually assaulting her while she was completing surgical training at a Melbourne hospital. But the woman was unable to get work at any public hospital in Australasia after the legal victory, Dr McMullin told ABC radio at a book launch at Parliament House in Sydney on Friday night.

"Her career was ruined by this one guy asking for sex on this night. And, realistically, she would have been much better to have given him a blow job on that night," Dr McMullin said.
"What I tell my trainees is that, if you are approached for sex, probably the safest thing to do in terms of your career is to comply with the request; the worst thing you can possibly do is to complain to the supervising body because then, as in Caroline's position, you can be sure that you will never be appointed to a major public hospital."

Senior female surgeon urges trainees to stay silent on sex abuse in hospitals

 

[sarang]

Ripe for a BBC documentary: More than 152 allegations made at BBC in last seven month

[h=2]In nirbhaya case,the culprits have been caught, tried and sentenced, except one who was a minority minor. The govt must set up a committee to unravel the mystery of 'making the documentary'.

***

"More than 150 allegations of sexual abuse have been made against 81 BBC employees since the Jimmy Savile scandal engulfed the corporation last year.[/h]
Half of the accused are current members of BBC staff or contributors, a Freedom of Information request revealed.

Of the cases involving those 40 employees, ten remain outstanding and are currently being investigated by either the police or the BBC.
Twenty five recent allegations involving current employees have been reported to the police, the majority of which resulted in no further action being taken. Five remain outstanding. Three resulted in no police action but are currently under investigation at the BBC.

Veteran presenter Stuart Hall was this month described as an "opportunistic predator" after admitting indecently assaulting 13 girls as young as nine whilst a BBC report found that there had been 37 formal complaints of sexual assault in the six years up until last November.
The 152 “allegations of a sexual nature” made since October 3, 2012, demonstrate how much more confident alleged victims have felt in coming forward since being encouraged to do so by the corporation.
The complaints concern both physical and non-physical allegations, the majority of which relate to people who have died or those who have not worked for the BBC for many years, including 48 about Savile.
Thirty involve alleged physical sexual abuse by 23 current members of staff.
The figures also disclose that in the last five years, 39 complaints have been made about sexual discrimination and 22 about race.

More than 152 allegations made at BBC in last seven months - Telegraph

 

[sarang]

And the fall out!

[h=1]Indian student claims German professor denied internship over 'rape culture', professor responds.[/h]Dhanya Rajendran| The News Minute| March 9, 2015| 1.50 pm IST
An Indian male student has claimed that a professor at the University of Leipzig in Germany denied him an internship because of the “the rape problem in India”.
A person claiming to be the student’s friend has uploaded screen shots on Quora,of two emails sent by professor Annette G. Beck-Sickinger of Biochemistry and Bio-organic Chemistry.
The portion of email posted on Quora says,
“Dear Sir,
Unfortunately I don’t accept any Indian male students for internships. We hear a lot about the rape problem in India which I cannot support.
I have many female students in my group, so I think this attitude is something I cannot support.”
In an exclusive response to The News Minute, Professor Annette Beck-Sickinger, did not deny the email exchange, but said it was taken out of context.
"Unfortunately this mail was a misunderstanding. Of course I have nothing against male Indians and I have accepted several Indian students in the past. However my lab is full and I currently cannot take any student. This led to an unpleasant discussion with one of the Indian student. I apologize if this caused any misunderstanding, but the e-Mail was taken out of the context, " she told TNM via email.
The Quora user further says that when the friend questioned this decision, the professor replied saying, it is ‘unbelievable that the Indian society is not able to solve this problem (of rape) for many years now”.
The full response reads,
“I fully agree that this is a generalization and may not apply to individuals. However, it is also unbelievable that the Indian society is not able to solve this problem for many years now. Reports reach Germany on a weekly base and especially these multi-rape crimes are threatening, but for me also demonstrate the attitude of a society towards women.
Also female tourist are kidnapped by groups of male and then abused.
Many female professors in Germany decided to no longer accept Indian male students for these reasons, and currently other European female association are joining. Of course we cannot change or influence the Indian society but only take our consequences in Europe.”
When asked what the full conversation was, the professor said, "The student just did not accept that I cannot take him, this obviously caused problems for him. I just can repeat that I have nothing against Indian, neither male nor female, that we had several in our institute. I currently accepted 5 students from Japan, Canada and the US, so my lab simply is full."
The student and his friend have chosen to remain anonymous on Quora. The News Minute is working to get a comment from them.

Indian student claims German professor denied internship over 'rape culture', professor responds

 

[P.J.]

Adding one more link BBC News - Delhi rapist says victim shouldn't have fought back

Please watch this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipsCz_6WX58&feature=youtu.be


Probably the best answer

 

[a-TB]

Indian student claims German professor denied internship over 'rape culture', professor responds.

Dhanya Rajendran| The News Minute| March 9, 2015| 1.50 pm IST
An Indian male student has claimed that a professor at the University of Leipzig in Germany denied him an internship because of the “the rape problem in India”.
A person claiming to be the student’s friend has uploaded screen shots on Quora,of two emails sent by professor Annette G. Beck-Sickinger of Biochemistry and Bio-organic Chemistry.
The portion of email posted on Quora says,
“Dear Sir,
Unfortunately I don’t accept any Indian male students for internships. We hear a lot about the rape problem in India which I cannot support.
I have many female students in my group, so I think this attitude is something I cannot support.”
In an exclusive response to The News Minute, Professor Annette Beck-Sickinger, did not deny the email exchange, but said it was taken out of context.
"Unfortunately this mail was a misunderstanding. Of course I have nothing against male Indians and I have accepted several Indian students in the past. However my lab is full and I currently cannot take any student. This led to an unpleasant discussion with one of the Indian student. I apologize if this caused any misunderstanding, but the e-Mail was taken out of the context, " she told TNM via email.
The Quora user further says that when the friend questioned this decision, the professor replied saying, it is ‘unbelievable that the Indian society is not able to solve this problem (of rape) for many years now”.
The full response reads,
“I fully agree that this is a generalization and may not apply to individuals. However, it is also unbelievable that the Indian society is not able to solve this problem for many years now. Reports reach Germany on a weekly base and especially these multi-rape crimes are threatening, but for me also demonstrate the attitude of a society towards women.
Also female tourist are kidnapped by groups of male and then abused.
Many female professors in Germany decided to no longer accept Indian male students for these reasons, and currently other European female association are joining. Of course we cannot change or influence the Indian society but only take our consequences in Europe.”
When asked what the full conversation was, the professor said, "The student just did not accept that I cannot take him, this obviously caused problems for him. I just can repeat that I have nothing against Indian, neither male nor female, that we had several in our institute. I currently accepted 5 students from Japan, Canada and the US, so my lab simply is full."
The student and his friend have chosen to remain anonymous on Quora. The News Minute is working to get a comment from them.

Indian student claims German professor denied internship over 'rape culture', professor responds

The chilling part is government's ban, inaction and corruption. There is no place to turn to for justice.

(Wrong) perceptions of Indian men will only multiply because Indian society is too much caught up in covering up and not demanding transparency and concrete action

 

[a-TB]

Please watch this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipsCz_6WX58&feature=youtu.be


Probably the best answer

Mr PJ : Excellent reference! The girl in the video makes strong points.

Many apologists and old fools caught in old thinking cannot understand the points. They are all part of the problem.

This forum itself has many denying society's issues with probability showing that they are also part of the problem

 

[prasad1]

Please watch this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipsCz_6WX58&feature=youtu.be


Probably the best answer

Good post.
May be salient point should be highlighted for some here who are hard of hearing, but may be they have difficulty understanding.

 

[auh]

Please watch this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipsCz_6WX58&feature=youtu.be


Probably the best answer

Sir,

Yes, while this is a good analysis, the worst part is that such views would be confined to the minds of a select few who care to read/view and reflect on opinions on such issues.

The majority of Indian society, be it of any religion, is a traditionalist stronghold as regards the status of women. It is time that women are accorded their basic rights, and that would necessitate the involvement of the GOI - via, stringent judicial measures, social awareness programmes, and to an extent, by breaking the cultural shackles that binds the mind more powerfully than any other.

How many Nirbhayas would a sincere Government sacrifice before it shakes off its slumber?

 

[prasad1]

Sir,

Yes, while this is a good analysis, the worst part is that such views would be confined to the minds of a select few who care to read/view and reflect on opinions on such issues.

The majority of Indian society, be it of any religion, is a traditionalist stronghold as regards the status of women. It is time that women are accorded their basic rights, and that would necessitate the involvement of the GOI - via, stringent judicial measures, social awareness programmes, and to an extent, by breaking the cultural shackles that binds the mind more powerfully than any other.

How many Nirbhayas would a sincere Government sacrifice before it shakes off its slumber?

You have valid points Auhji.

I suppose the lawyers and the judges should also have to change their view. The police officer's mindset, who respond to such situation must change. There are cases where the police will not register the case. Of Course the other side of the coin the women must not misuse the provisions of the law.

 

[P.J.]

Reply to M L Sharma #IndiasDaughter

Reply to M L Sharma #IndiasDaughter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orvWPhia948

Published on Mar 8, 2015

Response of a woman to misogynistic views of defence lawyer for rapists involved in the Delhi Gang Rape, Nirbhaya case.

 

[sarang]

Another instance in which media leads even intelligent folk to believe and internalise patent untruth. From "The Hindu".

" For the past one week, angry anchors, outraged politicians and the raucous discourse of public life have informed us that the documentary India’s Daughter has been banned. However, the truth is different. The documentary has not been banned. Yes, you read that right. What has been temporarily restrained until further orders is the showing of an interview recorded with the convict Mukesh Singh."

"IO of the case have moved an application for intimation submitting that on 03.03.2015 an application for preventing the media/internet from publishing/transmitting/telecasting/uploading the interview of the convicts in Nirbhaya gang rape case, was made before the learned Duty MM who has already been pleased to pass a restraint order till further orders."

"Thus, the matter rests currently with the courts. It is clear that there is no ban on the film as a whole; there is only a ban on the interview. Significantly, the constitutional validity of Section 66A of the Information Technology Act too, is reserved for judgment before the Supreme Court."

http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/lead/indias-daughters-the-ban-that-actually-isnt/article6975342.ece?homepage=true

The chilling part is government's ban, inaction and corruption. There is no place to turn to for justice.

 

[sarang]

India has its share of violent incidents of all kinds - rape, murder, physical injury - as other countries, but to a lot lesser degree compared to other countries. The bollywood style media and the self loathing indians make a mala out of a few incidents and seek warmth and publicity in the filth generated. Restrained reporting and respect for the victim and family are all irrelevant. Blaming the society en mass for individual crimes is the order of the day in our country; sane voices are not given due space in the media, and lying, sensationalism and indiscriminate abuse rule.

Strong views held by some men and parents is held as the prime responsible factor for rapes, higher incidence of rape in so called liberal countries need their views reviewed. Some article references to help resident shouter to ponder and get illuminated. The second reference gives a rational balanced view.

1. High Schools and Middle Schools Are Failing Victims of Sexual Assault

The issues college campuses are facing are evident in primary and secondary education as well.
​Federally funded colleges are required to report sexual assault statistics under the Clery Act (though the number of such incidents is often downplayed by schools)​. There is no equivalent data collection requirement​ for high schools, but CDC data has revealed that 30 percent of female rape victims were first raped between the ages of 11 to 17. According to Justice Department statistics, nearly 20 percent of girls between the ages of 14 and 17 have been victims of sexual assault or attempted sexual assault, and another 1990 study shows that 1 in 4 girls and 1 in 6 boys will be sexually abused before they turn 18. In an additional study using CDC data, released this week, 1 in 5 high school women and 1 in 10 high school men reported experiencing dating violence.
In general, most rapes go unreported and, of the 32 percent that are reported to the police, only 2 percent lead to a felony conviction, according to the Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network. Nearly 2,200 ​minors are arrested for rape each year, and 9,200 more for other sex offenses.
High Schools and Middle Schools Are Failing Victims of Sexual Assault - US News
[h=1]2. Should Women Be Scared of Travelling in India? Read What These 10 Women Have to Say[/h]You might be surprised to learn then that Sweden's rape incidence is 35 times higher that of India, which reports two rapes per 100,000 people. Rape statistics are some of the shakiest data around, however, since it tends to be one of the most under-reported crimes in the world. Nevertheless, declaring India a no-go zone for women seems fairly reactionary, and not entirely evidence-based, advice. No-one could argue that the threat of sexual assault in India is real, and sometimes brutal, yet sexual violence against women is endemic all over the world, including Europe and the USA.
Should Women Be Scared of Travelling in India? Read What These 10 Women Have to Say | Priya Shetty

 

[sarang]

Co-producer Puts Blame on Leslee Udwin: LAW BREAKER

NEW DELHI: Leslee Udwin, director of the documentary ‘India’s Daughter’, not only violated the terms of the agreement for filming inside Tihar Jail, but also terminated the contract of original co-producer Anjali Bhushan when the latter asked her to comply with the laws of the land, it has emerged.

It was Bhushan, who worked on the documentary since the beginning and her name appears on the Union Ministry of Home Affairs’ approval granted for shooting inside the jail premises.

Udwin refuted the demand of Tihar Jail authorities to hand over the un-edited footage. Bhushan said Udwin knowingly and cynically breached the conditions and undertaking under which the permission was granted. Anjali’s statement reveals Udwin also lied to the international media when she claimed that she had met all the conditions.

It has come to light that after seeing snippets of the film, Tihar prison authorities had categorically stated that the comments of the convicts were objectionable. “The authorities, further, asked for the full film ie unedited film to be able to review the same in the proper context. It was reiterated that the film should not be released till it is approved by the prison authorities and the ministry,” She said. The statement further exposed Udwin’s lie that she complied with rules and had fulfilled all the contract conditions.

“When Udwin categorically refuted this demand by Tihar Jail authorities, I was horrified especially since I had repeatedly pleaded with her to comply with all the conditions and formalities. Ultimately, in September 2014, I received a letter from Udwin’s lawyers terminating our agreement. One of the grounds of termination was that my warnings had in fact led to the DG (Prisons) sending a legal notice to her company on the grounds of breach of permission granted by the jail authorities.”

Anjali said, “When I accidentally stumbled upon the fact that plans to release the documentary were afoot, I was both angry and surprised, since I had been informed that the BBC will not air the documentary until the SC hearing was over.”

Co-producer Puts Blame on Leslee Udwin - The New Indian Express

 

[a-TB]

Another instance in which media leads even intelligent folk to believe and internalise patent untruth. From "The Hindu".

" For the past one week, angry anchors, outraged politicians and the raucous discourse of public life have informed us that the documentary India’s Daughter has been banned. However, the truth is different. The documentary has not been banned. Yes, you read that right. What has been temporarily restrained until further orders is the showing of an interview recorded with the convict Mukesh Singh."

"IO of the case have moved an application for intimation submitting that on 03.03.2015 an application for preventing the media/internet from publishing/transmitting/telecasting/uploading the interview of the convicts in Nirbhaya gang rape case, was made before the learned Duty MM who has already been pleased to pass a restraint order till further orders."

"Thus, the matter rests currently with the courts. It is clear that there is no ban on the film as a whole; there is only a ban on the interview. Significantly, the constitutional validity of Section 66A of the Information Technology Act too, is reserved for judgment before the Supreme Court."

http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/lead/indias-daughters-the-ban-that-actually-isnt/article6975342.ece?homepage=true

Interviews with serial killers have been recorded and reported. There is nothing for the government to protect except their inaction.

Indian people are not fools and can handle listening to the words of the convict and know how to process the information.

Rape reporting numbers are unreliable in all countries for differing reasons. In the west a woman may not want to expose her 'past' in a trial.

In India the cops are unwilling to listen (and they themselves are untrustworthy thugs) and the powerful will continue raping.


How come no one is asking why a country will allow 100 plus rape accused serving in the parliament?

India's corruption levels are well known. Can any of their action be trusted?

So comparing statistics etc are all mere acts to fool people and cover up inaction.

Even if India has the least number of rapes statistically and even if outside interests are trying to pull India's image down, the only wise thing to do is to FIRST address the real issues and then deal with perceptions and mischief. By just trying to focus on the latter India is tarnishing its image in the world which is what its opponents want.

Women of India especially young ones want concrete action. The covering up types are the men.

I want my motherland to do well and known for positive contributions to the world.

 

[prasad1]

E-TBji,
If you question or doubt India, Hindus, or RSS practice you are anti-Hindu, your anti_india, or worse.
They started a whole thread to trash people like me.
http://www.tamilbrahmins.com/general-discussions/23329-inconvenient-news-reports.html#post289929

So be warned that there is TARGET on your back. How dare you see the difference between a between a nation and a narrow mentality?

Or

is not RSS or Taliban Hindu (Bajrang Dal).

You must be a foreigner, not residing in an agraharam(or a Brahmin housing), Dalit of Hindu religion, or worse you must be Christian. I could not think of any more curse words.

 

[prasad1]

When a foreign film-maker, especially from the BBC, makes a film, it suddenly feels that the culture of the nation state is threatened. The security and the reputation of the nation state is more important than justice. Security in fact is the new virginity of politics. The Indian nation state (government) is doubly insulted. First, by media exposure that caused hurt to culture and second when the exposé is conducted by outsiders. A ban is the standard reflex of a threatened culture.


The state (read party view) is literally on red alert. What with jihad, moral policing, culture has been in a state of crisis. Minorities of all kinds, from students, women, Muslims have been threatening this sense of culture. The message is clear. Rape is permissible and normal, but a film which is an insult to the nation state is taboo. Enter the pious patriotism of Union Home Minister Rajnath Singh, who is both chowkidar and security expert of the threatened state and its vulnerable cultures. The film is banned and he adds that he plans to prevent its release in other countries. It is clear that when culture is under threat, the vulnerability of women, the obscenity and the banality of rape are inconsequential. Rape is after all an internal matter and the documentary would damage India’s status in the outside world.

 

[P.J.]

'India's Daughter' a fake film

'India's Daughter' a fake film

New Delhi: While the British filmmaker Leslee Udwin claims that her documentary on the horrific Nirbhaya gangrape and murder case, 'India's Daughter', accurately depicts what happened on the night of December 16, 2012, the sole witness to the barbaric assault on the 23-year-old woman called the film "fake".


Backing the Central government's decision to ban 'India's Daughter' featuring the interview of one of the convicts, Mukesh Singh who blames girls for rape and not men, Nirbhaya's friend Avanindra Pandey speaking exclusively to IBNLive accused Leslee Udwin of insensitively handling the issue.


"The documentary is unbalanced as the victim's viewpoint is missing. The facts are hidden and the content is fake. Only Jyoti and I know what happened on that night and the documentary is far from truth," says Avanindra Pandey who fought with the rapists and murderers to save her friend but was overpowered and beaten up brutally.

Nirbhaya's friend, who was with her on the fateful night, calls 'India's Daughter' a fake film - IBNLive

 

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An Anti-Rape Activist Is Disturbed By 'India's Daughter'

Kavita Krishnan, secretary of the All India Progressive Women's Association, photographed in the offices of the Communist Party of India. The bust in the background depicts Charu Majumdar, a Communist revolutionary from Bengal. Poulomi Basu/VII Mentor for NPR hide caption

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Kavita Krishnan has been a leading activist in the protests that took over the streets of Delhi after the rape and killing of a 23-year-old student in December 2012.

She appears in India's Daughter, the controversial documentary about the crime.

But Krishnan does not like the documentary, starting with its title. And she thinks it should not currently be shown in India — although not for the same reasons that the government has banned it. A court order halted its broadcast on an Indian news channel Sunday,

International Women's Day; authorities claimed the documentary might make it difficult to maintain public law and order.

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[krish44]

the same BBC documentary had been made by an indian film maker, it would not have been noticed or caused a furore.

if a foreigner whose motives are suspect makes it ,it invites the wrath of all.

the right messenger is required to carry a message