India's Olympic feat

[prasad1]

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hi
we spent crores of rupees for cricket.....not a single sponsor for athletics....its sad story of sports in india....only GOD can protect

indian sports...LOL

I am surprised that you have not seen the Tata facility In Jamshedpur. It is a world class facility for athletic training. Athletes from different part of country have a wonderful accommodation, coaches, and equipment for training.
Mittal Champions Trust supports Indian athletes with world-beating potential. It is funded by Lakshmi Mittal and was initiated by his son-in-law Amit Bhatia.
It was founded on 9 November 2005 by Mahesh Bhupathi. The first beneficiary was Joshna Chinappa, India's best squash player.[1] The trust was formed due to Mittal being disappointed by the dismal performance by Indians, who won just one bronze medal in the 1996 Summer Olympics, another bronze in the 2000 Summer Olympics and a silver medal in the 2004 Summer Olympics.[2] The initial funding is $9 million. The trust aims at developing Indian athletes for the 2012 Olympics in London.
The sports in focus are Squash, Badminton, Archery, Boxing, Shooting sports, Swimming and Heptathlon. The foundation has said that they won't be supporting cricket.
The Trust provides selected athletes with coaching, training centers, nutrition, physiotherapy and any other support they might need to compete in their sport.


Incidentally, Abhinav Bindra, country's first individual gold at the Beijing 2008 Olympic Games, is also a product of the Trust.


Hero MotoCorp (formerly Hero Honda Motors) promoted the Delhi Commonwealth Games in 2010. The company was also the title sponsor of the men's hockey world cup that year. Recently, Hero signed on golfers Anirban Lahiri, Shiv Kapur and Gaganjeet Bhullar, says a company spokesman. The Tatas sponsor badminton and marathon events.


Sahara itself promotes 95 events and cricket does not figure in any. A spokesman says the group also backs sportspersons in fields ranging from boxing to archery. Days after its exit from cricket, Sahara renewed a deal to sponsor hockey in India this week.

Sports sponsorship: How companies are looking beyond cricket to connect with consumers - Page 2 - Economic Times

 

[Iyyarooraan]

Where there is favouritism or nepotism, nothing good will come out. Sportsmen should be identified from interior villages of India who will have fire in their belly. No education nor language skill nor dressing skill should be specified. In about ten years you will have at least 10,000 qualifying persons. They must shun urban and semi-urban areas where the candidates will be good only for partying or drugging themselves.

 

[tbs]

I am surprised that you have not seen the Tata facility In Jamshedpur. It is a world class facility for athletic training. Athletes from different part of country have a wonderful accommodation, coaches, and equipment for training.
Mittal Champions Trust supports Indian athletes with world-beating potential. It is funded by Lakshmi Mittal and was initiated by his son-in-law Amit Bhatia.
It was founded on 9 November 2005 by Mahesh Bhupathi. The first beneficiary was Joshna Chinappa, India's best squash player.[1] The trust was formed due to Mittal being disappointed by the dismal performance by Indians, who won just one bronze medal in the 1996 Summer Olympics, another bronze in the 2000 Summer Olympics and a silver medal in the 2004 Summer Olympics.[2] The initial funding is $9 million. The trust aims at developing Indian athletes for the 2012 Olympics in London.
The sports in focus are Squash, Badminton, Archery, Boxing, Shooting sports, Swimming and Heptathlon. The foundation has said that they won't be supporting cricket.
The Trust provides selected athletes with coaching, training centers, nutrition, physiotherapy and any other support they might need to compete in their sport.


Incidentally, Abhinav Bindra, country's first individual gold at the Beijing 2008 Olympic Games, is also a product of the Trust.


Hero MotoCorp (formerly Hero Honda Motors) promoted the Delhi Commonwealth Games in 2010. The company was also the title sponsor of the men's hockey world cup that year. Recently, Hero signed on golfers Anirban Lahiri, Shiv Kapur and Gaganjeet Bhullar, says a company spokesman. The Tatas sponsor badminton and marathon events.


Sahara itself promotes 95 events and cricket does not figure in any. A spokesman says the group also backs sportspersons in fields ranging from boxing to archery. Days after its exit from cricket, Sahara renewed a deal to sponsor hockey in India this week.

Sports sponsorship: How companies are looking beyond cricket to connect with consumers - Page 2 - Economic Times

hi
everything there....bottom line NIL.....end result in world arena BIG NIL....100 million ppl cant produce atleast one gold medal

in Olympics....small countries doing better....we have three inhereted problems....

1, making excuses....

2,blaming game....blaming each other and pull down each other....

3, the attitude.....SAB KUCH CHALTA HAI BHAI YAHAAM.....means everything granted....

if these things go away...we are better than anybody in the world....wait and watch....if cricket go way from our country...

then only other sports will flourish....

 

[prasad1]

Where there is favouritism or nepotism, nothing good will come out. Sportsmen should be identified from interior villages of India who will have fire in their belly. No education nor language skill nor dressing skill should be specified. In about ten years you will have at least 10,000 qualifying persons. They must shun urban and semi-urban areas where the candidates will be good only for partying or drugging themselves.

Sir,
You are always down on India, and you post negative comments about India and Indian. To an extent some is deserved, but you do grave injustice to a number of Indian organization that does admirable job, in-spite of adverse conditions. Even the most gifted athletes have to train in the most modern training facility. Tata's have provided one such facility.

JRD TATA Sports Complex is located in Jamshedpur in the state of Jharkhand. It is one of the most modern and best sports complexes in India. One of the main attractions of the JRD TATA Sports Complex is its international size football ground and its eight-lane mono synthetic track. The Sports Complex provides facilities for sports like table tennis, volleyball, handball and hockey. It is also equipped with a gymnasium with various modern equipments. The Tata Chess Centre and the Tata Archery Academy are also based in this modern Sports Complex. The main aim for establishing this sports complex was to provide world-class facilities to the upcoming sports person so that they can make a mark on the sports scenario of the world.


JRD TATA Sports Complex was established in the year 1937. It was founded with the aim to encourage sports and sports person, who belonged to the Tata Group or even outside the group. The Club has been constantly engaged in spotting and then developing the potential of these upcoming sports person. It provides an early platform for the rising sports person who deserves no less.


The corporate group of Tata has always encouraged sports and made a commendable contribution in this regard. The JRD TATA Sports Complex is one such initiative in this regard. The Tata group has sponsored some great cricketers like Ajit Agarkar, Sourav Ganguly, Dilip Vengsarkar and many more. The Group has always tried to develop all types of sports in India. The two world billiards champions, namely Geet Sethi and Michael Ferriera, are employees of Tata.

The best athlete from the country is selected and groomed at this facility without favouritism or nepotism. The athletes, accommodation, nutrition, training other expenses are all fully paid by this foundation.
I know you think very poorly of Indians, but please visit some of this modern facility and update your views.

 

[amala]

India just needs one Usain Bolt or Michael Phelps in whatever sport they choose....just one and nobody will be down on India Prasad Sir. Just one! Out of a billion plus. Only one .

 

[prasad1]

Yes Amala, you are right.
But the best athlete born has to be groomed. Most of the Caribbean and African athletes train in USA.
It is sad that people do not educate themselves in this day of Information.
Sports and physical achievements are product of both genetics and environment. We have to find the right athlete and give them proper environment to get the winner. The winner then should have the motivation and desire to prove their worth.

 

[vgane]

hi
sorry to say....jamaica is a poor country too.....see jamaicans spirit in sports/olympics....world's fastest man ...we have many excuses.....only cricket

is important in india.....becoz money spinning sport.....even i can say that....our country is failed in sports.......becoz of

cine stars......cricket stars....political masters......even cine stars interested only in cricket....even they had cricket match....

Culture and genetic attributes may play a big part. The continued performance of the smaller former Soviet republics in events like weightlifting in the years after the breakup of the Soviet Union (often despite straitened economic conditions in those countries) illustrates this well. These countries continue to deliver solid performances in the Olympic Games, long after the demise communist regimes that pushed sporting excellence at all expense.
A range of examples, from Lithuania in basketball (a small country that regularly features in the top group of nations in a truly world sport), to Malaysia in badminton and New Zealand in rugby, show how a tradition in a sport can overcome disadvantages.

Further examples can be found in athletics, especially in the cases of the Caribbean states in the sprint events, and East African countries like Kenya and Ethiopia in the middle and long distance events. Here, genetics may play a role. Sprinters of West African stock - and especially the West African diaspora in the US and the Caribbean - have a long tradition of Olympic overachievement, from Jesse Owens to Edwin Moses and to Usain Bolt in more recent years. It is surely only a matter of time before a West African country produces a champion in the 100 metre event.
Ethiopia and particularly Kenya have dominated the middle and long distances in a similar way. Considering that Kenya's star distance athletes are drawn mostly from a small section of the population, the Kalenjin ethnic group who make up less than 10% of the population, this outperformance is even more remarkable.

The secret of Kenyan success has long occupied the attention of sports scientists; it would appear that the combination of diet, living at high altitude over a large number of generations and other genetic factors has created just the right permutation of traits to produce the perfect middle distance athlete.

Genetic factors are nothing though if not combined with societal factors, such as a tradition of participation in a certain sport, and role that a competitive peer group and role models can play. Seeing one’s countrymen succeeding on the biggest stage can inspire talented youngsters to take up the sport and to train hard.

http://www.investec.co.za/research-...-specialised-the-keys-to-olympic-success.html

Genetics and region do play a role...Out of 6 medallists from India 4 of them belong to the Jat belt in Haryana....May be Bhains ka Dhoodh (Buffalo Milk) and Dahi (Curd) play a significant role

 

[sarang]

A long distance runner boy from odisha got lot of tv exposure some years ago. There was a good measure of criticism from the same media on his trainer, family on issues like child labour, harsh training, intimidation etc. He could have become a marathon runner, but has vanished into oblivion.

Every country has to to adopt a model synching with its culture and tradition.

 

[manoharkumar]

TBS Sir, does not like cricket, it seems. It is also a sport and needs the same amount of training, endless hours in the field and all the concentration , effort , that any one can point in other sports. We inherited cricket from the British and what is wrong if the sports people excel in that game. We are world champions and we also have Chess world cahmpion in Viswanathan Anand. We do glorify them becaouse they consistantly bring laurels to the country and champions like Sachin are born only once in the sports arena. His entire childhood was spent on the cricket field.

Inspite of the boost given by sports bodies ,Govt, and Corporate comapnies, our National Team in Hockey performed so badly by not even winning one match. Committment , and dedication and self responsibility are needed in sports.

Yes we do glorify the sports persons on their victory, same way we do laud our scientists also when they do the country proud with their achievements, like Pokhran, or Moon launch etc. We Indian as a nation have big heart and big population so every celebration is big Mr.TBS. We alos need deiversion from the routine corruption, accidents, strikes news Sir. So these celebrations are part of our routine!!! Even if called to celebrate phelps victory only a few would have turned in your Place...., but when he comes to India see the celebrations as a world champios we will have same amount of crowd welcoming him!!!

Cheers to India...

Cheers!!

 

[tbs]

TBS Sir, does not like cricket, it seems. It is also a sport and needs the same amount of training, endless hours in the field and all the concentration , effort , that any one can point in other sports. We inherited cricket from the British and what is wrong if the sports people excel in that game. We are world champions and we also have Chess world cahmpion in Viswanathan Anand. We do glorify them becaouse they consistantly bring laurels to the country and champions like Sachin are born only once in the sports arena. His entire childhood was spent on the cricket field.

Inspite of the boost given by sports bodies ,Govt, and Corporate comapnies, our National Team in Hockey performed so badly by not even winning one match. Committment , and dedication and self responsibility are needed in sports.

Yes we do glorify the sports persons on their victory, same way we do laud our scientists also when they do the country proud with their achievements, like Pokhran, or Moon launch etc. We Indian as a nation have big heart and big population so every celebration is big Mr.TBS. We alos need deiversion from the routine corruption, accidents, strikes news Sir. So these celebrations are part of our routine!!! Even if called to celebrate phelps victory only a few would have turned in your Place...., but when he comes to India see the celebrations as a world champios we will have same amount of crowd welcoming him!!!

Cheers to India...

Cheers!!

hi
personally i feel that our young generation are spoiled.....becoz of cricket/cinema/ t v shows....we need endurance /good training /dedication

required in the world arena....a billion plus cannot produce a single gold for the country...its shame for the nation.....i already

said ...many excuses....still net result a BIG ZERO IN GOLD MEDAL TALLY....we need 3D's....devotion...dedication...determination without

deviation....

 

[renuka]

Genetics and region do play a role...Out of 6 medallists from India 4 of them belong to the Jat belt in Haryana....

Someone is going to be very happy reading this!

 

[renuka]

Culture and genetic attributes may play a big part. The continued performance of the smaller former Soviet republics in events like weightlifting in the years after the breakup of the Soviet Union (often despite straitened economic conditions in those countries) illustrates this well. These countries continue to deliver solid performances in the Olympic Games, long after the demise communist regimes that pushed sporting excellence at all expense.
A range of examples, from Lithuania in basketball (a small country that regularly features in the top group of nations in a truly world sport), to Malaysia in badminton and New Zealand in rugby, show how a tradition in a sport can overcome disadvantages.

Further examples can be found in athletics, especially in the cases of the Caribbean states in the sprint events, and East African countries like Kenya and Ethiopia in the middle and long distance events. Here, genetics may play a role. Sprinters of West African stock - and especially the West African diaspora in the US and the Caribbean - have a long tradition of Olympic overachievement, from Jesse Owens to Edwin Moses and to Usain Bolt in more recent years. It is surely only a matter of time before a West African country produces a champion in the 100 metre event.
Ethiopia and particularly Kenya have dominated the middle and long distances in a similar way. Considering that Kenya's star distance athletes are drawn mostly from a small section of the population, the Kalenjin ethnic group who make up less than 10% of the population, this outperformance is even more remarkable.

The secret of Kenyan success has long occupied the attention of sports scientists; it would appear that the combination of diet, living at high altitude over a large number of generations and other genetic factors has created just the right permutation of traits to produce the perfect middle distance athlete.

Genetic factors are nothing though if not combined with societal factors, such as a tradition of participation in a certain sport, and role that a competitive peer group and role models can play. Seeing one’s countrymen succeeding on the biggest stage can inspire talented youngsters to take up the sport and to train hard.

http://www.investec.co.za/research-...-specialised-the-keys-to-olympic-success.html

Genetics and region do play a role...Out of 6 medallists from India 4 of them belong to the Jat belt in Haryana....May be Bhains ka Dhoodh (Buffalo Milk) and Dahi (Curd) play a significant role

To a certain extent I disagree the genetics part cos China seems to be be able to do anything!

Even in Beijing 2008 men hurdles running was won by China(Gold Medal).
This time the defending champion had bad luck cos he crashed and fell on the hurdles and did not qualify for the finals.

So tell me how come if it is genetics China can dominate anything?

 

[renuka]

Somehow I feel African origin people are very talented and determined types.

You know Senegal born singer Akon who sang for SRK's movie Ra One the famous Chamak Challo..sang both the Hindi and Tamil version and only took 3 hours to get the song perfect for recording.

Imagine just 3 hours that too in a language he never speaks.

 

[sarang]

Definitely jats; is there one in our forum. Most of the jats are members of khap panchayats - about 38 in number.

Someone is going to be very happy reading this!

 

[renuka]

Definitely jats; is there one in our forum. Most of the jats are members of khap panchayats - about 38 in number.

I thought I was the only one who knew we have a Jaat member here.

 

[prasad1]

Genetics and Sports Performance


Genetics shape us in many ways including our potential to excel in sports. Training, diet, and other factors play a large role in developing our potential, but our genes may also limit performance. You may have the genetic potential for being a champion athlete, but if you live a lifestyle of overeating and no exercise you are unlikely to achieve that potential. On the other hand, someone with limited genetic potential can find ways to compensate and become a solid performer.
Genetics have a large influence over strength, muscle size and muscle fiber composition (fast or slow twitch), anaerobic threshold (AT), lung capacity, flexibility, and, to some extent, endurance.


One major limitation for endurance athletes is cardiac capacity, or the heart’s ability to deliver enough oxygen (via the bloodstream) to the working skeletal muscles. This, too, is largely determined by genetics.


The other limitation for endurance athletes is the ability of muscle tissue to effectively use oxygen and create ATP (adenosine triphosphate), the fuel that allows muscular contraction and movement. (see: Creating Energy for Exercise.) The efficiency of this process is measured by something called VO2 max (maximum volume of oxygen).
Training also increases cardiac efficiency, but the extent of this increase may depend upon genetics. Genetically gifted athletes will have a much greater response to training and will have a large increase in the number of mitochondria in cells. (The mitochondria are organelles in cells that produce the ATP, so the more mitochondria a person has, and the more efficient they are.)
Although many elite athletes are blessed with the right genetics for their sport and a great training routine, even recreational athletes can make the most of their abilities with optimal conditioning, good nutrition and a positive mental attitude.

 

[Iyyarooraan]

Shri Prasadji - I respect your opinion and do not miss your shots. You are not coming down from Eiffel Tower. I do not dispute what some Companies are doing for sports. Ask any non-sponsored sportsman, he will have tons of complaints against every one who are supposed to advance sports in India. The lot which went to London 2012 has had separate bag of complaints. All said and done, the basic requirement for a sportsman is fire in his belly. There are many with volcanoes in their belly. Sponsored sportsmen having stolen some limelight are happy with what they have done. A few endorsements will cover up their life and douse the fire. People concerned should scout for such talents in the interior villages. The sportsmen coming out of the elite clubs mostly make it to tv shows, newspaper columns and fall into the glamorous tinsel net. India is a great country and there are reservoirs of great talents which are avoided by people just to up nepotism, favouritism, regionalism, parochialism, and what not. Even today the officials are important not the sportsmen. I am sorry to say there are teeming thousands to make a quick buck and only tens who would attempt to bring glory to India. If we know the ills of our country and kill them, then nothing can stop India from achieving glories. Everybody knows Vengsarkar's talent and his service to Indian cricket. But you know in an important election in local outfit he was pipped by a politician who had already called it a day.

 

[prasad1]

Shri Prasadji - I respect your opinion and do not miss your shots. You are not coming down from Eiffel Tower. I do not dispute what some Companies are doing for sports. Ask any non-sponsored sportsman, he will have tons of complaints against every one who are supposed to advance sports in India. The lot which went to London 2012 has had separate bag of complaints. All said and done, the basic requirement for a sportsman is fire in his belly. There are many with volcanoes in their belly. Sponsored sportsmen having stolen some limelight are happy with what they have done. A few endorsements will cover up their life and douse the fire. People concerned should scout for such talents in the interior villages. The sportsmen coming out of the elite clubs mostly make it to tv shows, newspaper columns and fall into the glamorous tinsel net. India is a great country and there are reservoirs of great talents which are avoided by people just to up nepotism, favouritism, regionalism, parochialism, and what not. Even today the officials are important not the sportsmen. I am sorry to say there are teeming thousands to make a quick buck and only tens who would attempt to bring glory to India. If we know the ills of our country and kill them, then nothing can stop India from achieving glories. Everybody knows Vengsarkar's talent and his service to Indian cricket. But you know in an important election in local outfit he was pipped by a politician who had already called it a day.

Sir,
I read your post, I may not agree with them, but I still respect your point. I sometimes want you to change your attitude from being so negative, because it is bad for you. I understand that corruption in every walk of life is stifling, but you have accept, what is not in your control.

Indian (sportsman included) are used to crying ans expect handouts. The culture of begging and complaining does not go down when they get millions in training and sponsorships. They are never satisfied, they compare to the cricketers and cry.

When the greatest athlete Michel Phelps gets less endorsement money than the lowest paid NFL rookie he is not crying, he goes out and wins one more medal. That should be the attitude. The Indian Athlete after all the paid training gets busted for drug use that is shameful.

 

[tbs]

ஒலிம்பிக்கில் இந்தியா தங்கம் வெல்லாதது கவலையளிக்கிறது