NEP Vs TN govt

[Padhu1982]

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Getting funds under the PMSRI scheme is similar to getting an allotment in SIPCOT.

The interested party should sign the MOU with the govt. to get the land and other concessions.

Such MoUs even specify the businesses that should be undertaken. (You don't see any shopping mall, showroom in a SIPCOT).

Similar to that when you are asking for funds under PMSHRI you shall sign the MoU and accordingly act as per the conditions.

Can an interested party who wants to get land in SIPCOT argue with the govt. that he will not sign the MoU and he will do whatever business he likes and still he wants allocation in SIPCOT?

 

[OKO]

I find the comparison to be quite crude. I have noticed that most of those who oppose TN's stance on this matter do so because of the Dravidian politics. Please separate the two matters and look at it objectively.

Coming back to the topic at hand, the State govt is not wrong in objecting to the implementation of the three language policy as per the policy. Please look at the attached list below for third language choice for all states.

The power to disagree with the centre is a very fundamental right within the quasi-federal structure of the country. The individual states have the right to oppose it, so to cut it all short, unlike private entities, the State government has the right to negotiate the MoU's to a greater degree.

Furthermore, such discourse ought to be encouraged. I understand that at the end of the day it is a political power play by the DMK government, but it cannot be analysed with a prejudiced lens. It has to be looked at from all angles, particularly, socio-economic and cultural concerns. I urge all those who read this to look around you and make an evaluated choice rooted in logic and most importantly what is morally right per your opinions.

 

[prasad1]

I never lived in Tamil Nadu. I studied in Hindi medium school till Engineering school and struggled to learn in English. So I never understood the problem TN had with Hindi or 3 language formula. Till I migrated to USA and met up with Tamil people. It opened my eyes.
There are multiple ways that center imposes Hindi on non-Hindi speaking states. When PM Modi speaks at Red Fort or UN he speaks only in Hindi, majority of Tamilian do not understand it, does he care? Is he a PM of only Hindi speakers? The north has always tried this subtle method of imposing Hindi.
Another subtle way of forcing Hindi His party's MP Kanimozhi Karunanidhi also recently questioned why a student should be forced to learn three languages.

"Students have enough burden in schools. You have to learn so many subjects, and on top of that you are forced to learn three languages instead of two," she told the Indian Express newspaper.

But Pradhan has denied allegations that the policy will force Hindi through.

"We have never said in NEP 2020 that only Hindi will be there; we have only said that education will be based on mother tongue - in Tamil Nadu, it will be Tamil," he told reporters last week.

The latest controversy has been exacerbated by Tamil Nadu's claims that it has not been allotted its share of funds for Samagra Shiksha Abhiyan - a school education programme partially funded by the federal government - due to the state's refusal to implement the NEP.

The Hindu newspaper reported last August that the federal government had asked Tamil Nadu to sign a memorandum of understanding (MoU) to participate in the scheme. However, according to the MoU, participating in the scheme meant that the state had to adopt NEP 2020 "in its entirety".

In December, a junior federal minister told parliament that Tamil Nadu did not sign the MoU for the scheme despite agreeing initially - a claim the DMK denied, saying it never agreed to do so.

In February, Stalin wrote a letter to Prime Minister Narendra Modi, asking him to urgently release the funds, amounting to around 21.5bn rupees ($247m; £191m). This is literally a Blackmail.

 

[prasad1]

After the British left India in 1947, the newly independent nation sought to promote Hindi as a link language to replace English. The constitution - enacted in 1950 - also nudges the federal government to promote the spread of Hindi. This invited fierce opposition from non-Hindi-speaking states, prompting the federal government to continue using English as an alternate official language for 15 years after 1950.

As the deadline year of 1965 approached, violent protests over fears of Hindi "imposition" erupted again across Tamil Nadu, leading the federal government to pass a law that assured the continued use of English as an official language.

However, successive federal governments have introduced policies or made announcements that have kept these anxieties simmering.

The 1968 NEP adopted the three-language formula for the first time and, in the same year, the government introduced policies mandating the teaching of Hindi in non-Hindi speaking states, leading to fresh protests.

Over the years, the issue of Hindi versus other languages has made headlines repeatedly. In 2023, Stalin criticised the Modi government for replacing some colonial-era laws with ones bearing Hindi names (the Indian Penal Code, for instance, has been replaced with a law named Bharatiya Nyaya Sanhita).

A federal government commission that examined the language policy during 1948-49 acknowledged that the issue's sentimental nature made it "difficult to consider it in a calm and detached manner".

"No other problem has caused greater controversy among educationists and evoked more contradictory views from our witnesses," it said.

 

[prasad1]

Responding to Union Education Minister Dharmendra Pradhan’s claim that many students in TN prefer English-medium education over Tamil, School Education Minister Anbil Mahesh Poyyamozhi on Wednesday highlighted that 1.09 crore students are enrolled in over 58,779 schools that follow the state board syllabus, while only 15.2 lakh students study in 1,635 CBSE schools. He clarified that even in English medium schools, every student in Tamil Nadu learns Tamil as a subject and is proficient in it.

He further emphasised that opposition to the three-language policy is not merely about language but about preserving an education system that has consistently delivered results.

“This is not just about Tamil. It is about an education system that has been tried and tested, and which has proved to be successful for decades,” he said.

Stating that the Tamil Nadu model is effective, the minister said the state board education system has consistently produced outstanding results in higher education and employment.

Referring to the number of students enrolled in state government schools, he questioned why people continue to choose state board schools if there is genuine demand for learning a third language, as some claim. “Unlike the imposition of a third language, TN’s system allows students to master English while retaining Tamil for cultural identity and values,” he added.

“Tamil Nadu does not need a forced third language when our students are already excelling with a strong bilingual foundation. If our education system is already producing top professionals, thinkers, and innovators, why enforce a change?” he asked, stating the National Education Policy follows a one-size-fits-all model.
Responding to Union Education Minister Dharmendra Pradhan’s claim that many students in TN prefer English-medium education over Tamil, School Education Minister Anbil Mahesh Poyyamozhi on Wednesday highlighted that 1.09 crore students are enrolled in over 58,779 schools that follow the state board syllabus, while only 15.2 lakh students study in 1,635 CBSE schools. He clarified that even in English medium schools, every student in Tamil Nadu learns Tamil as a subject and is proficient in it.

He further emphasised that opposition to the three-language policy is not merely about language but about preserving an education system that has consistently delivered results.

“This is not just about Tamil. It is about an education system that has been tried and tested, and which has proved to be successful for decades,” he said.

Stating that the Tamil Nadu model is effective, the minister said the state board education system has consistently produced outstanding results in higher education and employment.

Referring to the number of students enrolled in state government schools, he questioned why people continue to choose state board schools if there is genuine demand for learning a third language, as some claim. “Unlike the imposition of a third language, TN’s system allows students to master English while retaining Tamil for cultural identity and values,” he added.

“Tamil Nadu does not need a forced third language when our students are already excelling with a strong bilingual foundation. If our education system is already producing top professionals, thinkers, and innovators, why enforce a change?” he asked, stating the National Education Policy follows a one-size-fits-all model. https://www.newindianexpress.com/st...cultural-identity-and-values-anbil-poyyamozhi

 

[prasad1]

The Central Government will prevail, and others will have to accept it. The meek will surrender or perish.

Hindi-English > जिसकी लाठी उसकी भैंस
जिसकी लाठी उसकी भैंस in English
pronunciation: [ jisaki lathi usaki bhaimsa ] sound:
जिसकी लाठी उसकी भैंस sentence in Hindi
TranslationMobile

• law of the jungle
लाठी bludgeon Shillelagh blackjack Billy cudgel heavy
उसकी hers HIS her
भैंस buffalo water buffalo Asiatic buffalo Bubalus


Might is right.

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[OKO]

You have, in my opinion, understood what I wished to express and have put it across in an eloquent manner. Just a few things I wanted to add after reading your posts:

There are multiple ways that center imposes Hindi on non-Hindi speaking states. When PM Modi speaks at Red Fort or UN he speaks only in Hindi, majority of Tamilian do not understand it, does he care? Is he a PM of only Hindi speakers? The north has always tried this subtle method of imposing Hindi.

I think this is one of the major contentions as well. Conversing in Hindi at such forums does not make sense because "the majority of India understands it". It makes the partiality quite apparent. A few more allied concerns would be as follows:

1. The dwindling population in the southern states correlates to the number of representative seats present for the southern states. The imposition of Hindi will solidify a North-first approach of the centre.
2. Concern regarding treatment: The southern states and other non-Hindi-speaking states like Maharashtra provide the most in terms of revenue to the centre, yet, year-on-year, the southern states in particular do not get funds compared to states like Bihar, UP, et cetera. To make matters worse, the funds are not utilised appropriately, and these states have not changed the mechanisms. The same would go for the North-easterners. If TN and other states take this imposition, it is very much possible that everything else will be normalised slowly, which would be quite catastrophic.
3. Erosion of culture: I had travelled back home to TN recently and went on a trip with my family deep south. That is where I had noticed that the servers of a popular restaurant with multiple outlets across the state were North Indians, which is not inherently a bad thing. It is important to have diversity in the workforce. However, what I had noticed was they had presumably been working there for a decent while and could not speak even greet a person in Tamil in Tamilnadu! This is not a new phenomenon. However, I believe the reality has sunk in for many, particularly as cross-country travel has been on the rise and SI's notice that non-Hindi speaking servers up North are forced to learn the language and the locals do not have to adjust.
   1. Another factor that is closely linked to this is also narrative. As most of us know, a good narrative is key, and with the use of social media by many Indians, it has become apparent that SI's would get teased for not assimilating to the northern culture. This can be tested by all of you who come across this post by looking at the comments of most Indian creators' reels or posts (like resident Indians, not NRIs).
      1. I am not including trends like Reyansh College or the dosa idly chutney bit as those are mostly light-hearted, and it is good to poke cultural stereotypes in a respectful way where no one is laughing at anyone, but rather we are all laughing together.

Over the years, the issue of Hindi versus other languages has made headlines repeatedly. In 2023, Stalin criticised the Modi government for replacing some colonial-era laws with ones bearing Hindi names (the Indian Penal Code, for instance, has been replaced with a law named Bharatiya Nyaya Sanhita).

To be fair, there is more to this, but yes, the fact that a "non-colonial identity" = Hindi is an extremely bad precedent. It would have made more sense for it to be in English or Sanskrit, in my opinion.

 

[OKO]

The Central Government will prevail, and others will have to accept it. The meek will surrender or perish.

Hindi-English > जिसकी लाठी उसकी भैंस
जिसकी लाठी उसकी भैंस in English
pronunciation: [ jisaki lathi usaki bhaimsa ] sound:
जिसकी लाठी उसकी भैंस sentence in Hindi
TranslationMobile

• law of the jungle
लाठी bludgeon Shillelagh blackjack Billy cudgel heavy
उसकी hers HIS her
भैंस buffalo water buffalo Asiatic buffalo Bubalus


Might is right.

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साँच को आँच नहीं!

Even if they end up going this route, within the next couple of years, a new party will emerge, and it'll be part II of BJP and Congress. Though I suppose the effects can be detrimental... Only time will tell us.

 

[OKO]

I had to include a Tamil equivalent as it would be quite hypocritical of me not to do so, so here's one that IMO fits better within this context:

மனம் இருந்தால் மார்க்கம் உண்டு