Ramdev, Sri Sri Ravi Shankar refuse Padma awards

[prasad1]

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While there has been buzz that the Centre may award Sri Sri Ravi Shankar and Ramdev, two gurus with wide following among Hindus, with Padma awards, both have expressed their unwillingness to accept it.


While Sri Sri has turned down home minister Rajnath Singh’s request to accept the award, Ramdev has written saying that he as a “sadhu” would not like to be felicitated.


“I have got to hear from TV channels and newspaper reports that the central government wants to award me the Padma Vibhushan. I express gratitude from the bottom of my heart for the government’s goodwill,” Ramdev’s letter says.


“I am a Sanyasi and consider it my duty to follow my sanyas, national and seva (service) dharm without expectations or attachments. With great humility and gratitude, I request that I be done a favour by providing this award to some other deserving person doing praiseworthy work.”

First of all the government of India should not have awarded to its own henchmen.
Secondly these people have insulted an award and the country that is bestowing them.
Ramdev a Multi millionaire to claim that he is a Sanyasi is height of hypocrisy.

 

[prasad1]

Murjello Patrao • 3 hours ago
Can't understand on what basis people like Ramdev and Ravi shankar are selected for such awards. They in fact collect money for their ashrams and to teach yoga. Ramdev sells his so called medicines to gullible people in India and abroad. Both these people own private planes Ramdev has got benami properties in Ireland and Scotland. Is the BJP government going to take any action against these crooks. Both these people are not what they project to be.
After Ramdev, Sri Sri Ravi Shankar declines Padma award | Latest News & Updates at Daily News & Analysis

 

[renuka]

What is wrong with these 2? Why cant they accept the reward and respect the nation?

I understand that they are Sanyasis but they can accept the award with the spirit that Bharata Mata has decided to honour Her Sanyasis.

 

[biswa]

I think people are free to refuse awards. Like many awards, those given by the GOI are often subject to influence peddling and underhand motivations.

 

[vgane]

Murjello Patrao • 3 hours ago
Can't understand on what basis people like Ramdev and Ravi shankar are selected for such awards. They in fact collect money for their ashrams and to teach yoga. Ramdev sells his so called medicines to gullible people in India and abroad. Both these people own private planes Ramdev has got benami properties in Ireland and Scotland. Is the BJP government going to take any action against these crooks. Both these people are not what they project to be.
After Ramdev, Sri Sri Ravi Shankar declines Padma award | Latest News & Updates at Daily News & Analysis

Prasadji,

I am outraged by your comments on Sri Sri, one of the countries revered top spiritual leader...He has brought a change in a many a life through his Art Of Living & meditation..He has tried to unite various countries..His mission is to reduce voilence and stress..Which Hindu Sannyasi would have the guts to visit Pakistan..Let us not use the TB site to pour vitriol and calumny on him

 

[a-TB]

Sri Sri has been nominated for Nobel peace prize it seems. I am sure he will not reject that one if it comes his way.

 

[prasad1]

Prasadji,

I am outraged by your comments on Sri Sri, one of the countries revered top spiritual leader...He has brought a change in a many a life through his Art Of Living & meditation..He has tried to unite various countries..His mission is to reduce voilence and stress..Which Hindu Sannyasi would have the guts to visit Pakistan..Let us not use the TB site to pour vitriol and calumny on him

Hold on, read my post again. My original post did not say anything about Sri Sri at all.
The second post was a quoted comment from Patroji and even that stated the fact that they own planes. That is factual and not insulting to anyone.

 

[CHANDRU1849]

Padma awards purely relate to public relations. If you are good at, you will definitely get. Some eminent Carnatic Musicians were left out, because of lack of public relations - Maharajapuram Viswanatha Iyer, Madurai Mani Iyer, GNB, Tanjore Kalyanaraman, TK Murthy, VV Subramanyam etc.

 

[கால பைரவன்]

Hold on, read my post again. My original post did not say anything about Sri Sri at all.
The second post was a quoted comment from Patroji and even that stated the fact that they own planes. That is factual and not insulting to anyone.

Your original post calls both of them as "henchmen". Your second "quoted" post calls them "crooks".

It is better to say things with conviction. If one cannot then it is better to not say anything at all.

 

[sarang]

No need to get outraged. They who have sold their souls become soulless and find no merit in any issue benefiting or praising Hindus and Hindu causes. They cannot digest Hindus asserting themselves. Well, they have to swallow rise of sanatana dharma and find cure for heart burns and belly aches.
Modin coined the term news traders, now amit shah called a media group yellow jornalism .
But it is gratifying that soda secularists are losing cool, support, bearings and lifeline. They are reduced to a few hundred slogan shouting gang.

Prasadji,

I am outraged by your comments on Sri Sri, one of the countries revered top spiritual leader...He has brought a change in a many a life through his Art Of Living & meditation..He has tried to unite various countries..His mission is to reduce voilence and stress..Which Hindu Sannyasi would have the guts to visit Pakistan..Let us not use the TB site to pour vitriol and calumny on him

 

[prasad1]

Your original post calls both of them as "henchmen". Your second "quoted" post calls them "crooks".

It is better to say things with conviction. If one cannot then it is better to not say anything at all.

No citizen is bigger than their country.
An insult to the country is insult to all its people.
I do not follow any godman, and I have posted many threads about it.
My second post was a "quote" you do not change the words in a quote. May be you did not know that.
A person who goes out begging favours and money from others, should not insult the country that nurtures him. You can have opposing views on that matter. Let us discuss the merits of that action, instead of attacking the messenger.
What is difference between you and the terrorist? The terrorist also does not care about the country, they are for their religion.

 

[sarang]

Saint thigaraja did not go to the king's court to sing when summoned. Vedamnta desikar did not go to the court of krishnafdeva raya when vidyaranya, his gurukul friend, invited him. If ramdev and srisri decide not to accept a title or citation, not out of displeasure or negative feelings, it should be welcomed. Calling them names or abusing them by the ever complaining folk. Searching the net to find a write up that reflects self thoughts and quote the same is 'Kai Vanda kalai' for Hindu haters.

 

[sarang]

This marjello patrao must be an international celebrity as his main occupation is to pour venom on bjp and modi irrespective of the event. No wonder he is quoted.

 

[கால பைரவன்]

No citizen is bigger than their country.
An insult to the country is insult to all its people.
I do not follow any godman, and I have posted many threads about it.
My second post was a "quote" you do not change the words in a quote. May be you did not know that.
A person who goes out begging favours and money from others, should not insult the country that nurtures him. You can have opposing views on that matter. Let us discuss the merits of that action, instead of attacking the messenger.
What is difference between you and the terrorist? The terrorist also does not care about the country, they are for their religion.

I only pointed out both of your first two posts did call them names which you refused to accept in your later post.

My opinion is that a polite refusal of the award with a thank you is not an insult to the govt. But I do not think it is possible for anyone to have a reasonable conversation with you. Your latest hot-headed post with total lack of objectivity is yet another proof. I will not have any problem in ignoring your posts going forward. That will be a favorable outcome for me instead of being accused as a terrorist.

 

[sarang]

One who politely wants the award to be given to another deserving person deserves to be hit on the head with false and wild insults, but the black hearts are free to abuse the country, its noble citizens, its culture and leaders. What twisted mindset?

I only pointed out both of your first two posts did call them names which you refused to accept in your later post.

My opinion is that a polite refusal of the award with a thank you is not an insult to the govt. But I do not think it is possible for anyone to have a reasonable conversation with you. Your latest hot-headed post with total lack of objectivity is yet another proof. I will not have any problem in ignoring your posts going forward. That will be a favorable outcome for me instead of being accused as a terrorist.

 

[vgane]

Both Sri Ramdev and Sri Sri supported Modi in the run up to elections...Had they accepted the Padma awards from the Government it would have been seen as an act of favoritism..They did not want their names to be sullied by that insinuation..It is well within their rights to decline the awards!

 

[renuka]

I think I know how the debate would have gone if Baba Ramdev and Sri Sri Ravi had accepted the award.


Then the very same group supporting Baba Ramdev and Sri Sri would have said:..Yes..both of them are well deserving of the award..they respected the PM and Bharata Mata..they are fine examples that they are citizens of Bharata Varsha first before anything else.The world now will know that Bharat Mata honours culture and her Sanyasis..may Baba Ramdev and Sri Sri inspire others to thread the path of spirituality to bring back the past glory of Bharat.Jai Hind!




I have a great feeling many members here base their opinions on what Prasad Ji writes!LOL

Opinions here are just merely opposition to anything and everything Prasad Ji writes.

I see many cases of Sishupala syndrome here!LOL

 

[prasad1]

I think I know how the debate would have gone if Baba Ramdev and Sri Sri Ravi had accepted the award.


Then the very same group supporting Baba Ramdev and Sri Sri would have said:..Yes..both of them are well deserving of the award..they respected the PM and Bharata Mata..they are fine examples that they are citizens of Bharata Varsha first before anything else.The world now will know that Bharat Mata honours culture and her Sanyasis..may Baba Ramdev and Sri Sri inspire others to thread the path of spirituality to bring back the past glory of Bharat.Jai Hind!




I have a great feeling many members here base their opinions on what Prasad Ji writes!LOL

Opinions here are just merely opposition to anything and everything Prasad Ji writes.

I see many cases of Sishupala syndrome here!LOL

Gee thanks Renukaji, be careful they throw the

baby with the bathwater

here LOL.

The sudden overwhelming religiosity has created an atmosphere where a rational conversation is not possible. To me Religion is private matter and I do not wear it on my sleeve. Country and the prestige of an award from the country is bigger than any individual or their religion.

 

[renuka]

Gee thanks Renukaji, be careful they throw the baby with the bathwater here LOL.

The sudden overwhelming religiosity has created an atmosphere where a rational conversation is not possible. To me Religion is private matter and I do not wear it on my sleeve. Country and the prestige of an award from the country is bigger than any individual or their religion.

Dont worry..the baby has grown up big enough to resists any attempts to get rid of her!LOL


Yes I agree with you...One should think of the country first before anything else that too especially when the PM is trying very hard to make a change.

One should not "degrade" a National Award.

If one is a Sanyasi and feels that they should not accept it they can say that they accept the award as a respect to the Nation and later place the award at the Feet of a chosen Divinity and 'surrender' the award to God in a bid to be selfless.

It seems to me that Baba Ramdev and Sri Sri see the award as "material" hence refusing it..why cant they have Sama Darshinah and view that award as God/Brahman?

 

[கால பைரவன்]

You start a fan club for me and I will be your Jalra.. LOL. Quite amusing actually.

May be the OP should clarify what his problem is. That the awardees are "henchmen" or that the awardees refused the award. Somehow this contradiction apparent to anyone is not apparent to people with "samah darshinah"!

 

[prasad1]

Ok KBJI,
The awardees were not selected by an independent unbiased body. Then again this award has political overtones (and it is not new).
But once the award is declared it is given in the name of the country. The individuals chosen then have the obligation of graciously accepting it. It is an insult to others, it appears as if they think they are better than others getting it, or past recipient of it.

I wish government had not nominated them, but once done so, it is the obligation of this ingrateful individuals. They are not bigger than the India.
This was not modiji's personal award that they can throw back, it is the country that they are insulting.

 

[கால பைரவன்]

Ok KBJI,
The awardees were not selected by an independent unbiased body. Then again this award has political overtones (and it is not new).
But once the award is declared it is given in the name of the country. The individuals chosen then have the obligation of graciously accepting it. It is an insult to others, it appears as if they think they are better than others getting it, or past recipient of it.

I wish government had not nominated them, but once done so, it is the obligation of this ingrateful individuals. They are not bigger than the India.
This was not modiji's personal award that they can throw back, it is the country that they are insulting.

I like such straightforward replies from you. I disagree with your reasoning. It is the very fact that many of these awards have become political in nature that there is no insult in someone declining the award.

 

[renuka]

You start a fan club for me and I will be your Jalra.

Ok...tell me when you would like me to start a fan club for you?

 

[auh]

The thread initiator's opinion seems to be very personal and does not seem to be well reasoned out, and neither does it reflect an understanding of various possible scenarios that could be admitted to the "awarding" and the subsequent "refusal". Seems to be quite judgemental given the paucity of information.

 

[sudeshwer]

I am of the opinion that Govt should first with the persons before announcing the awards; this will avoid unnecesary embarrasment - srinivasan