Rise of the Sari(ee)

[Brahmanyan]

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Dear Raji Ma'am,
The picture reminds me of the words of Winston Churchill on giving speech, now I understand what he meant.
“A good speech should be like a woman's skirt: long enough to cover the subject and short enough to create interest”

Regards,
Brahmanyan,
Bangalore.

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

There is a very plump lady in our colony and in a salwar suit she really looks round from any angle.

But when she wore a sari, poor dear, she had to pin it in so many places to cover up the ugly bulges.

Salwar kameez covers up all the bulges better than a sari.

I never made fun of the salwar kameez at any time- since I myself wear them

during the long flights and longer drives across the sprawling USA.

I agree I made fun of the ATTITUDE of the two super pazkak kizhams

involved in whatever episode I elaborated on.

AND MY KNEE PROBLEM started way back in 1984 when my right knee got locked for the first time.

I KNOW what it is to live with shaky wreak knees a life as normal a possible!

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

Dear Raji Ma'am,
The picture reminds me of the words of Winston Churchill on giving speech, now I understand what he meant.
“A good speech should be like a woman's skirt: long enough to cover the subject and short enough to create interest”

Regards,
Brahmanyan,
Bangalore.

Now it is thick enough to be draped well and thin enough to create interest!!!

 

[Brahmanyan]

Now it is thick enough to be draped well and thin enough to create interest!!!

Dear Smt Visalakshi Ramani,

That's a good one, you beat Wily Winston Churchill.
Warm Regards,:yo:
Brahmanyan,
Bangalore.

 

[Raji Ram]

.............. Well! the daavani is worn ON the salwar suit and the whole thing will look like a Ayyangaar madisar!
I can make it into an Iyer madisar by wearing the daavani on the opposite shoulder. ...

The salwar suit will look only like a salwar suit and will never be like IyengAr madisAr!

And, Iyer madisAr has pleats at the back of the left leg, which the salwar does not have! :becky:

This is how 'IyengAr madisAr' appears:

 

[Raji Ram]

​The above picture (headless) is from Google images! Did the mAmi feel shy to pose for a photo? :noidea:

 

[tbs]

​The above picture (headless) is from Google images! Did the mAmi feel shy to pose for a photo? :noidea:

hi

maami may not photogenic....may be maama may be around there.....here content is madisar,,,not the face,,,,,,

ALWAYS....ஆள் பாதி ,,,,ஆடை பாதி ...

 

[Raji Ram]

........... I never made fun of the salwar kameez at any time- since I myself wear them

during the long flights and longer drives across the sprawling USA.

I agree I made fun of the ATTITUDE of the two super pazkak kizhams

involved in whatever episode I elaborated on. ..........!

Dear Sis,

Do you remember this post to which I objected immediately?

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

Dear Smt Visalakshi Ramani,

That's a good one, you beat Wily Winston Churchill.
Warm Regards,:yo:
Brahmanyan,
Bangalore.

Thank you kind sir! ray2:

But can you tell me why

I am projected as a Villi instead of Wily?? :noidea:

 

[Raji Ram]

Dear Sis,

Visited your profile page now, you know why!

Good to see the profile picture! :thumb:

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

Wow! There are people who want to know how to tie a Saree for Rs 6000 to Rs 30000...Amazing..I think our ladies can make a quick buck..But is there demand in Chennai for this?

The Rise of the Sari-Tying Class - India Real Time - WSJ

Dear Sir,

I solved the mystery of this wide range of payment during my TWILIGHT ZONE -
which extended past midnight, thnks to the nagging partners at home and elsewhere.

The lady who wears the sari is going to WAKL AWAY wearing that.When she wears a lovely sari,
she also needs the matching blouse, underskirt and other accessories and jewellery.

So the amount quoted by you must the cost of the dresses + accessories +jewels + the service charge.
I think it makes better sense now and also explains the wide range of paymnet.

A sasikala silk saree can cost ~ 15,000 Rs and an one gram jewel set ~ 5000 Rs. :thumb:

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

Dear Sis,

Visited your profile page now, you know why!

Good to see the profile picture! :thumb:

She who laughs last laughs best - :laugh:

especially when doing so from a safe distance! eep:

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

Dear Sis,

Do you remember this post to which I objected immediately?

I also remember what I had replied!
முன்பின் அறியாத கிழங்களிடன் என்ன நேசம் - தனக்கு
முன்னே பிறந்து தொலைத்தவளிடம் தான் என்ன பாசம்!!!

 

[Raji Ram]

I also remember what I had replied!
முன்பின் அறியாத கிழங்களிடன் என்ன நேசம் - தனக்கு
முன்னே பிறந்து தொலைத்தவளிடம் தான் என்ன பாசம்!!!

Sorry dear! I don't want you to write ill of anyone and hence I protest!

Hope you understand that this action is ONLY because of பாசம்! I care more for what you are :typing:

BTW, your comment was THIS and not what you have written above, which is more rhyming!! :thumb:

P.S: I don't like anyone to be called 'kizham'. out:

 

[vgane]

I was wondering when did ladies start wearing sarees...

The first reference to a saree is in Mahabharata when Draupadi's saree was removed -disrobed by Duchadana in the royal court and the fabric continued eternally as Draupadi called out Lord Krishna in agony!

There is also a reference to a legend wherein a weaver dreamed of the feminine touch, moods, hair, and tears and wove these aspects of woman into a long piece of cloth.

The current style of saree wrapping in India is the Nivi style where petticoat is a must

Did old timers also wore petticoat, choli ...Not sure when these were started?

 

[Raji Ram]

........ Did old timers also wore petticoat, choli ...Not sure when these were started?

Dear Sir,

You might have noticed in BharathanAtyam that the miming of draping a saree starts with a knot!

This shows that in olden days there were NO petticoats! :lol:

Even today, one of our close relative lady wears the sungidi six yards saree, stating with a knot and petticoat-free!!
I am glad that petticoats came into existence. Otherwise what will be the frightening sight of females with see-through sarees! :faint:

 

[Raji Ram]

When nylex sarees were introduced as maintenance free sarees in late 60s, one middle aged lady, mostly clad in 8 yards

'kandAngi sElai' was frustrated and lamented, 'idhu enna seela, ammiNi? $#% ellA(m) alungAmath theriyumE!!' :becky:

 

[prasad1]

I was wondering when did ladies start wearing sarees...

The first reference to a saree is in Mahabharata when Draupadi's saree was removed -disrobed by Duchadana in the royal court and the fabric continued eternally as Draupadi called out Lord Krishna in agony!

There is also a reference to a legend wherein a weaver dreamed of the feminine touch, moods, hair, and tears and wove these aspects of woman into a long piece of cloth.

The current style of saree wrapping in India is the Nivi style where petticoat is a must

Did old timers also wore petticoat, choli ...Not sure when these were started?

Archeological fact dates back to the Indus Valley Civilization (2800-1800 BC) around the western part of the Indian subcontinent. The earliest known depiction of the sari in the Indian subcontinent is the statue of an Indus Valley priest wearing a drape. Sari-like drape covering the entire body dates back to 100 B.C. A North-Indian Terracotta depicts a woman wearing a Sari wound tightly around her entire body in the trouser style.

Sculptures from the Gandhara, Mathura and Gupta schools (1st-6th century AD) show goddesses and dancers wearing what appear to be a dhoti wrap. While, Ajanta cave murals (circa 5th Century AD) shows women wearing sarees that cover the entire body. While a Portuguese traveler in the early 1500′s described women wearing white garments very thin cotton or silk of bright colour, five yards long, one part of which is girt round their below and the other part on their shoulder across their breasts in such a way that the arm and shoulder remains uncovered.

The Ancient Indian concept of beauty was that of small waist and large bust and hips, and the sari seemed to be the perfect dress as it exposes the waist of a woman and emphasizes the waist and bust with the pleated fabric.
Vgane sir,
No peaking I do not know if they had a petticoat under the sari, NO PEAKING:noidea:.

 

[vgane]

Dear Sir,

Y
Even today, one of our close relative lady wears the sungidi six yards saree, stating with a knot and petticoat-free!!
I am glad that petticoats came into existence. Otherwise what will be the frightening sight of females with see-through sarees! :faint:

The knot has to be really strong...After putting the knot at the waist a section of the cloth is also rolled and tucked inside to strengthen the knot...

In fact the knot was there in both sari (9 yards or 6 yards) for women & Panchagajam for men

If you are not an expert in tying the knot, it will give way & you will be back to infant days!LOL!!

 

[kunjuppu]

Even today, one of our close relative lady wears the sungidi six yards saree, stating with a knot and petticoat-free!!
I am glad that petticoats came into existence. Otherwise what will be the frightening sight of females with see-through sarees! :faint:

i think starting with mrs K's generation, an additional undergarment came into play for ladies. more for hygienic reasons than modesty, but nevertheless i think, a notch up, in terms of confidence level.

looking at today's lungi dances, it appears that the lungi is more a showy outergarment, with two levels of undies.

[video=youtube;XWP2pN8IZ0U]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWP2pN8IZ0U[/video]

 

[Raji Ram]

......... If you are not an expert in tying the knot, it will give way & you will be back to infant days!LOL!!

I know Sir! Hence my new idea of making ready-made madisAr, stitched with half a petticoat and one six meter saree! :thumb:

 

[Raji Ram]

....... No peaking I do not know if they had a petticoat under the sari, NO PEAKING:noidea:.

You must be kidding Prasad Sir!

Have you not washed / folded the cloths even once after your wedding??

 

[Raji Ram]

i think starting with mrs K's generation, an additional undergarment came into play for ladies. more for hygienic reasons than modesty, but nevertheless i think, a notch up, in terms of confidence level. .........

It should be one generation earlier! My mom who got married in early 40s was using petticoats.

The reason must be to enable ladies to wear thinner sarees and to avoid the important knot!

P.S: Now we are slowly going back to Aurangzeb's days with sarees as thin as muslin cloth!

 

[Nara]

One of Swami Sri Desikan's Sanskrit works is called सुभाषित नीवी. The title is meant to convey that what is inside is wrapped under a well tied knot, one needs special skills to untie the knot to be able to get to the erotic, ahem, esoteric treasure firmly sealed inside. nIvI, I am told, is a knot used by women when wearing kaccham. SSD is quite naughty yaar (pun not intended LOL)!!!

 

[Raji Ram]

OMG, Prof. Sir! We do not meddle with the knot for 'that' purpose;

it is the 'kachcham' which is 'chorugified' at the back!