Science, Rituals, Jyothisham, Vaastu etc

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Post in thread 'Sani Peyarchi 2025 - Need clarification'

Tuesday at 7:21 AM

Anyone is entitled to believes. This post is only about a comment that is not correct and not with the main question which others are responding. In particular the quote from opening post is this

"Modern day science merely assumes the Big Bang (the period before this assumed event, they cannot explain). With the Big Bang as ground zero, everything else is purported to fall in place. No disrespect to science but there are things Science just cannot explain."

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No real scientist claims to have a complete explanation for everything. Science seeks to answer the "how" in a given...

• a-TB

This is follow up to the above post. I did not want to hijack that thread. . What was posted there is this . Next post will add to this starting point

No real scientist claims to have a complete explanation for everything. Science seeks to answer the "how" in a given context, rather than the "why." In fact, the deeper something is researched, the more questions arise. The Big Bang is a hypothesis, and nothing is definitively known about the moments immediately following this event. Speculations exist about events occurring 10^-36 seconds after the Big Bang, but theories like inflation are now being re-evaluated or disproven. Much of this information is available to provide laypeople with a general understanding. (I am not from a scientific background.)

There are also hypotheses suggesting an infinite number of universes. However, the existence of a hypothesis does not make it correct. Some individuals in the field of science treat their work like a belief system, akin to religion, and bring their own ideologies into their interpretations. However, such individuals are not representative of real scientific inquiry.

So, what is science? It is essentially the scientific method—a process of investigation. Interestingly, science is increasingly aligning with the idea that time is an illusion, and there is no such thing as "the future." This conclusion has also been explored through reasoning in Vedanta studies.

Astrology, on the other hand, is based on beliefs, like other superstitions. It persists because of individual experiences, but it fails to meet the rigor of scientific methods. In my view, astrology is detrimental to society, though I do not expect agreement from its believers. That said, this is not the topic here. My comment is solely intended to clarify misconceptions about science and its scope.

 

[a-TB]

Science is ONLY about Scientific Method. Nothing else. All others are just hypothesis , proved or disproved.

It is not religion like in the sense that it does not start with what is unknown (like a God in heaven). Religions starts with unknown and tries to 'explain' the known and observed.

Science starts with known and builds up to the next level of known. Unknowns are hypothesis but not accepted until validated

Vedanta is also from known to known only. That is the correct understanding But many teachers have mixed up theology with Upanishad in interpretations making the whole topic area in the domain of beliefs.

Vedanta (Gita and Upanishads) only teach oneness and not divisiveness. Science hypothesizes unification in the search to understand the universe. But Vedanta is not science but scientific

 

[a-TB]

Religions without exceptions lead to divisions. So religion and science cannot mix, religion and vedanta can also not mix

 

[a-TB]

Vedas contain ritual sections, upasana sections and Knowledge sections (Upanishad). Gita is like a upanishad too though it is a smriti. The ritual sections do not specify a kartha but it is inferred. In Upanishad sections the teaching is that you are not a Kartha (doer) or Bhokta (enjoyer). So though rituals are mentioned no divisions are directed. Smrithi's by their approach to place and time period tend to lead to divisions. All rituals today have about 5% vedic mantras, 25% Smruthis and rest are made up as traditions. Many Smruthis are inapplicable. Some like Manu Smruthis are corrupted over time since it contains contradictory messages.

 

[a-TB]

Jyothisham or Astrology is really a branch of Veda not Veda itself. It is like Grammar. So called Vedic Astrology is not in any Vedas. It started only as astronomy like predict when it would be sunrise etc to start rituals etc. What Astrology of today has no basis in the original Vedanga

Vaastu was about construction to get good air, get enough sunlight etc. Today's practice is all based on unfounded beliefs.

Both these branches, the way they are practiced are a curse on the humanity.

Let me stop here I have harsh truths to share about ritualists. May be in the future

 

[sravna]

Those who try to belittle knowledge gained by very deep intuitions as just beliefs do not have an inkling of what is real and what is not. The validation that Science gives to its hypothesis is not based on reality. It is something that can simply vanish and be not repeatable the very basis of Science . The disappearance of physical energy in face of spiritual energy is based on my first hand experience and is repeatable. Better Science than current and all of past dubakur science boasts of.

If the scientists are willing to take the spiritual bull by its horns let them show that courage and not by snide and cowardly remarks about spirituality.

 

[sravna]

Knowledge relying only on method is a body without skeleton and a building without foundation waiting to collapse. Rigor in method can be a support only and not be a replacement for logical explanations. To say that method alone is Science is reducing the discipline to a popular flavour of it, a prime example being technology based on only data, all fluff and no real substance. It is a mighty fall from the initial heydeys of western enquiry where logic found a prominent place. What sense does it make when proponents of such shaky and dubakur science talk of unfounded beliefs of astrology?

Intuitions especially of the revered rishis are strongly rooted in reality. To dismiss them is to dismiss a basis of knowledge but embracing a shaky logical system such as the current flavour of technology driven science.