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On the gopinath munde died in the tragic accident, owasi tweeted - one gone, captain to go next. No action was taken by the media, studious silence.
Since modi has said in his speeches that hindus from any part of the world are welcome to come to india if they are harassed in the country of their stay. Hope action will start on illegal bangladesis as even the supreme court has also approved their eviction.
 
Why is he singing a different tune these days? He does not seem to have proper stand in his mind and might just lean on where power is.

Once upon a time these were his opinions before he became a hard core Hindu...hard to imagine these were his views!

Lets read:


Swamy on RSS:

The RSS game plan

"A disillusioned and dispirited RSS has set the ball rolling for mid-term general elections in which it hopes that the BJP will gain an absolute majority and implement the Hindutva agenda. "
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Swamy wants VHP banned



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CHENNAI, JAN. 22. The Janata Party president, Dr. Subramanian Swamy, today urged the President to send a message to the Union Cabinet with a direction that the government ban the VHP and arrest its office-bearers under the National Security Act.
The VHP's call that the Government should take all steps to clear the hurdles in its way by March 2002 for the construction of the Ram temple at Ayodhya was tantamount to a terrorist act and constituted a ``gross attempt to take law into its own hands and to demean and discredit the Constitution,'' he said in a statement.
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Swamy on Babri Masjid Demolition:

"After the Babri Masjid demolition, the first thing we must do, is to disabuse the minds of the people, that RSS stands for Hindus…they have vulgarized the name Hindu, like Hitler, in the name of nationalism, vulgarized the meaning of nationalism,’ he had stated."
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  • Swamy on Muslim Population:



    "in 1993 he had stated that there is no scientific evidence to show that the Muslims will become demographic majority in the near future. He had attributed the slightly higher Muslim birthrate to the differences in per capita incomes. ‘If you bring the per capita income of Muslims on the same level as of Hindus, the difference in growth could disappear.’"
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Swamy on ShivSena
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Dr Renukaji,

What you have quoted is BT (Before Transformation)..His new lingo is AT (After Transformation)
 
Since modi has openly guaranteed Indian citizenship for harassed hindus from any part of the world, diplomatic efforts must start to rescue and resettle them in india,.
 
auh said:
It is for such reasons that I wish to believe that a God is out there and that he has, in all his mercy and kindness, not made me a muslim !
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True, you were not raised as a a Muslim but you have the choice and power to become a Muslim if you choose :-) .. I guess that 'God out there' has blessed you with that choice ! In the end your own mercy has protected you from becoming one
 
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It is for such reasons that I wish to believe that a God is out there and that he has, in all his mercy and kindness.....
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Dear Auh,

You see Hindu males are also experts when it comes to wife beating..its just that tradition of Hindu wife beating has been passed down by word of mouth and not documented.

Even films show heroes slapping females and females falling in love after a slap!LOL

Tell me..which female will fall in love with a male who slaps her?


Hitting/slapping a female has been projected by the Tamil cinema that the male cares for the female and hence he slaps her to behave etc...so its not different from how other religions advocate wife beating.

Hindi movies show less scenes of males slapping females but in Tamil movies males are always trying to preach how a woman should behave and so on.

So that way all our documentation of how Hindus treat females are in Tamil Cinema!LOL
 
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Dear Auh,

You see Hindu males are also experts when it comes to wife beating..its just that tradition of Hindu wife beating has been passed down by word of mouth and not documented.

Even films show heroes slapping females and females falling in love after a slap!LOL

Tell me..which female will fall in love with a male who slaps her?


Hitting/slapping a female has been projected by the Tamil cinema that the male cares for the female and hence he slaps her to behave etc...so its not different from how other religions advocate wife beating.

Hindi movies show less scenes of males slapping females but in Tamil movies males are always trying to preach how a woman should behave and so on.

So that way all our documentation of how Hindus treat females are in Tamil Cinema!LOL
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Dear renuka,

Tamil and hindi movies hardly represent our religious or cultural traditions !!!

Whilst saying that let me also acknowledge that the feeling of male superiority in our society leads to illtreat women - beating being one aspect of that. However, I would dare to speculate that maybe not all of us at all times would have been in such a state of mind [ mental mode, if you insist :-) ]. Maybe the intolerance in Hindu society could have been a result of degradation of the system over years of Moslem and Jesuit invasion and oppression.
 
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Dear renuka,


. Maybe the intolerance in Hindu society could have been a result of degradation of the system over years of Moslem and Jesuit invasion and oppression.
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LOL! Excuses yaar.....if there is a flaw in society...the problem needs to be addressed and not play the blame game and blame outside influence..that is just denial and not taking the responsibility of our actions.

We Hindus are famous for blame game sort of stories:

1)The story where a sage comes to a house to eat and he steals the silver plate and the next day it was found out that the meal he ate was cooked by a female thief..so becos of her so called stealing influence the sage succumb and stole the plate..what nonsense yaar? Blaming another person for our own actions? May be the sage should have just done some self introspection to find out if he still had some previous life vasanas that were showing up now. Image if all theives used this excuse in the court of law!LOL

2)Second story..even better..AJAMILA..he was the one who chased after the sex worker and married her had kids with her but all throughout the story the wife is blamed for his degradation..then since he called Narayana Narayana calling his son..that audio decibels matched the frequency for a Vishnu Dhoota to jump into action and Lo Behold Ajamila was saved!

Why no credit was giving to his wife who gave birth to a son whose name managed to save his father??LOL


3)Story number 3 ...BHISMA PITAMAHA!

When Draupadi was being disrobed he kept quiet and when on his dying bed of arrows she laughed at him cos he was preaching and she asked him how come all this wisdom did not ring a bell for him to help her when she was being disrobed?

His famous answer.."Oh at that time I ate food given by Duryodhana and that evil food clouded my intellect ..after having all blood drained off only now I am speaking Dharma"

What an excuse yaar...he could have at least apologized to her and regretted his actions and tell her that he was ashamed of himself that he did not do anything instead of blaming Duryodhana.


4)Final Story... From Kali Yuga:
Maybe the intolerance in Hindu society could have been a result of degradation of the system over years of Moslem and Jesuit invasion and oppression!LOL
 
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There is one way we can make the muslims realize that this is their country.Muslims should realize that they enjoy more freedom in India than in any foreign country and whenever a hindu goes to another country, he is not enjoying as much religious or political or social freedom in other countries.This has to be effectively to be known to all muslims since after Malaysia, India holds the highest muslim population. That will turn even a single sporadic incident to a volcanic type of thing if unattended.Therefore it is the duty of every hindu not to portray all muslims as terrorists.
 
Even in Middle East Muslims are not enjoying this much of right as in India
 
Today in Delhi Muslims are demanding that female pillion riders should be exempted from wearing helmets for 2 wheelers! Their strategy is that they should get extract as many concessions as possible! Best way is to ask them if they are Shia or Sunni! Debunk their unity! It is a farce!!
 
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3)Story number 3 ...BHISMA PITAMAHA!

When Draupadi was being disrobed he kept quiet and when on his dying bed of arrows she laughed at him cos he was preaching and she asked him how come all this wisdom did not ring a bell for him to help her when she was being disrobed?

His famous answer.."Oh at that time I ate food given by Duryodhana and that evil food clouded my intellect ..after having all blood drained off only now I am speaking Dharma"

What an excuse yaar...he could have at least apologized to her and regretted his actions and tell her that he was ashamed of himself that he did not do anything instead of blaming Duryodhana.
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Bhishma, the terrible, is not to be lightly taken for his actions. I disagree with you here on the excuse part. I think that the answer he gave was wise and suitable for his line of thought. According to Bhishma, dharma is very subtle and hence there are many thin lines that one has to decide on, in pursuit of dharma.

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LOL! Excuses yaar.....if there is a flaw in society...the problem needs to be addressed and not play the blame game and blame outside influence..that is just denial and not taking the responsibility of our actions.

We Hindus are famous for blame game sort of stories:
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I dont think you can categorize ALL hindus as "being famous for blame game sort of stories". Perhaps you think so, but it may not be so.

Analysing various possibilities would enable us to get to the root of the issue which mere acceptance never will.
 
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