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The end of Donald Trump for US Presidency

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vgane said:
Is Trump victory on account of a 'whitelash' against a Black President? I guess so!!
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Dear Shri Ganesh Ji,

I think you are right to an extent but I think not fully because the whitelash was not as much against a black president as it was due to some reason the Americans began to feel that the American supremacy and influence is not as it used to be. China, Russia and India beginning to assert themselves probably was a matter of concern. The anger was more against the current establishment for not maintaining the American supremacy than more an anger against a black president.
 
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What has happened there is understandable.

Whites in US have every reason to feel aggrieved. Firstly , liberal democrats have been supporting african americans,hispanics, indians , muslims from asian countries

not caring for the whites.

MNCs have been trasferring manufacturing and jobs to china and india when many whites are unemployed and their living is badly affected by mortgage crisis

aftermath.

Jobless statistics are just numbers and the pain of unemployed white due to shift of job profile to digital frame work and automation has hurt them maximum.

Then Hillary was considered as establishment who got a nomination as a right as she had a clinton tag .People wanted someone who was not a Bush or Clinton.

Then there was the gender issue.Many white men could not accept a woman president.

Trump will be good in some ways.

He might align with russia with whom india has a relationship.He might help india vis a vis china. But he might not hurt pak -india equation.He would be bad for indians going there for studies and

employment . Relatives of these NRI [dependant parents or spouses] might face visa issues.

In near future indians in US might consider returning before they get a knock on their heads and told to get out like mexican immigrants.
 
Trump as President: Today, the world really has changedToday, 11/9 will prove a day of greater historic import than its better-known palindrome, 9/11: today, the United States, architect of the liberal world order built after the great war of 1939-1945, has voted for a man who stands for its dismemberment. This is not hyperbole: together with the Soviet Union, the United States underwrote the post-World War II system of nation-states, guaranteeing trade and energy flows, and ensuring a balance of power that kept the great powers from coming to war. The system was underpinned by what might, broadly, be called liberal values: the idea that robust states, guaranteeing the welfare of their citizens, would guard against the rebirth of Fascism, and its catastrophic consequences.


For Trump, though, the world is an imposition: “the United States”, he declared, “has become a dumping ground for everybody else’s problems”. He means to charge nation-states for the system of bases the United States maintains around the world—bases it created to maintain the world order. He is no fan of NATO: “The cost of stationing NATO troops in Europe is enormous”, Trump wrote. “And these are clearly funds that can be put to better use”. Saudi Arabia, he said, “make a billion dollars a day. We protect them. So we need help”.


Trump’s disruptive triumph isn’t a one-off: from India’s own Prime Minister Narendra Modi to China’s Xi Jinping and Japan’s Shinzo Abe; from Britain’s Brexit vote to the looming victories of Marine Le Pen and other European far-Right parties, the post-War order is crumbling. The Right might well celebrate the tearing-apart of the puzzle-board—but no-one knows if the pieces can be put back together, in any other shape.


His triumph is about white racism, and resurgent sexism, and xenophobia, and fear. It is about all these things—but it is about something more, which it is critical to understand.


HOW did we get here? The story, for the most part, well-known. The rolling-back of the welfare state under President Ronald Reagan and Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher deprived millions of working people of the prospect of security—the key promise of the post-1945 consensus. Liberal parties across the West chose not to resist the new economic orthodoxy—despite evidence, from Scandinavia, that high-tax welfare states had the best outcomes for their citizens. The collapse of the Soviet Union, and the anarchy that it unleashed across swathes of eastern Europe, saw tyranny legitimised.


The economic crisis of 2008 saw the livelihoods of a great mass of peoples savaged; worse, it gave rise to the first youth generation in the West since 1945 which cannot expect that its life will be better than that of its parents’ generation. As in other times of crisis, the disenfranchised found scapegoats: immigrants, racial and religious minorities, the rights won by women.
http://indianexpress.com/article/op...t-today-the-world-really-has-changed-4366243/
 
Prasad,
Pretty good summary of the reasons for Trump winning.
One other thing of note is the age demographics that is behind Trump's win is also the same age group in Brexit voting in UK. The older voters mostly retired people came in force to vote back their country to its original booming economy. Immigrants were welcome then to promote the growth of America. Now the same immigrants are being targeted for the decline in their own. So all in all its the immigrants who are responsible for American development. They want the original slave mentality back again and treat immigrants as such.
 
Dear Ray Sundar,

This song is for you to enjoy the victory of Trump!

[video=youtube_share;YUH9jD__qHY]https://youtu.be/YUH9jD__qHY[/video]



Here is translation too cos you always want translations:


Bajne De Dhadak Dhadak, Dhol Taashe Thadak Thadak, Bhandara Jhidak Jhidak Malhari
Let the drums beat, let the cymbals ring, let the songs of happiness be played

Khadak Tadak Bhadak Saali, Chatak Matak Fatak Saali, Dushman Ki Dekho Jo Waat Laauli
Look how badly we have defeated the enemy

Arre Bajne De Dhadak Dhadak, Dhol Taashe Thadak Thadak, Bhandara Jhidak Jhidak Malhari
Let the drums beat, let the cymbals ring, let the songs of happiness be played
Khadak Tadak Bhadak Saali, Chatak Matak Fatak Saali, Dushman Ki Dekho Jo Waat Laauli
Look how the enemy has been defeated

Bajne De Dhadak Dhadak, Dhol Taashe Thadak Thadak, Bhandara Jhidak Jhidak Malhari
Let the drums beat, let the cymbals ring, let the songs of happiness be played
Khadak Tadak Bhadak Saali, Chatak Matak Fatak Saali, Dushman Ki Dekho Jo Waat Laauli
Look how the enemy has been defeated

Dheere Dheere Badhi Chali, Badhi Chali, Hai Jo Thi Chingari, Choti Chingari
This small flame has erupted into a huge fireball

Bhari Bhari, Bhari Bhari, Bhari Bhari, Hai Mann Ki Almari, Aaj Almari
The safe of my heart has become filled (with happiness) today

Hui Satrangi, Saali Satrangi, Hui Satrangi Thi Jo Yeh Raat Kaali
This black night has become rainbow coloured

Ae Khadak Tadak Bhadak Saali, Chatak Matak Fatak Saali, Dushman Ki Dekho Jo Waat Laauli
Look how badly we have defeated the enemy

Chaka Chaka, Chaka Chaka, Chaka Chaka Chaund, Apni Basti Re, Saali Basti Re
Our neighbourhood has become greatly decorated

Rapa Rapa, Rapa Rapa, Rapa Rapa Rap, Saare Masti Mein, Doobe Masti Mein
Everyone here is lost in excitement

Badi Atrangi, Hui Atrangi, Badi Attrangi, Apni Ye Jeet Saali
This victory of ours is so colourful and unique

Ae Khadak Tadak Bhadak Saali, Chatak Matak Fatak Saali, Dushman Ki Dekho Jo Waat Laauli
Look how badly we have defeated the enemy

Bajne De Dhadak Dhadak, Dhol Taashe Thadak Thadak, Bhandara Jhidak Jhidak Malhari
Let the drums beat, let the cymbals ring, let the songs of happiness be played
Khadak Tadak Bhadak Saali, Chatak Matak Fatak Saali, Dushman Ki Dekho Jo Waat Laauli
Look how the enemy has been defeated

Bajne De Dhadak Dhadak, Dhol Taashe Thadak Thadak, Bhandara Jhidak Jhidak Malhari
Let the drums beat, let the cymbals ring, let the songs of happiness be played
Khadak Tadak Bhadak Saali, Chatak Matak Fatak Saali, Dushman Ki Dekho Jo Waat Laauli
Look how the enemy has been defeated



http://www.bollynook.com/en/lyrics/17983/malhari/
 
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renuka said:
Dear Ray Sundar,

This song is for you to enjoy the victory of Trump!
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Thanks,
Yes he did win spectacularly.
The heartland of America has voted him in.
Now we have to wait and see how the immigrant population will make America Great Again.
The locals were all sleeping while all this was happening.
Lets us see what a woken up America can do.
For me it does not matter if Rama or Ravana is ruling.
 
krish44 said:
Then there was the gender issue.Many white men could not accept a woman president.
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I feel its not only males...even females prefer a male president.

It gives a sense of security.

Only in Tamil Nadu they want an AMMA!LOL
 
Times have changed.

With it the old post war2 order with US and Nato taking on russia and communism has crumbled with soviet union breaking up and russia moving away from communism.

US has been dissipating its power enforcing an order that nobody wants and US is paying a heavy price for it .No one wants US to play policeman to the world at large.

Youngsters have realised that they are paying the price of intervention everywhere in the world.US youngsters are facing threats due to violence by muslim radicals

primarily due to intervention in afganisthan and iraq.Others are taking away their prosperity and jobs.They have nothing to look forward to.

Even indias hindu majority got tired of appeasement of minorities and voted in the hindu rightist party.So the lurch towards ultra right in US supporting whites and their

concerns is likely to strike a chord. In india secularism has become a bad word. In US , all others other than whites might face the heat due to anguish of the whites.

It is a phase. It will pass off when the concerns of the white are addressed .
 
raysundar said:
For me it does not matter if Rama or Ravana is ruling.
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I prefer a Ravana...cos a Ravana always cares for his subjects...even Duryodhana was a good king when he was ruling.

All the Asura boys in the Puranas were good kings and their kingdoms prospered.

Rama on the other hand preferred exile and left kingdom just for his dads unkept promise...also He was too emotional and easy swayed by even the talk of a washerman and sent his wife away knowing she was pregnant..not even caring that she is carrying the heir to the throne and his lineage. Rama would be more interested in maintaining His Dharma and placing everyone else in system shut down in that process.

But Asura boys never abandoned anyone like this..everyone was just in their harem.

Ravana did not discard Mandodari despite knowing she was not happy with his desire for Seeta.

Ravana never betrayed any of his brothers...only Vibishana betrayed him.

So Trump seems more like a Ravana ..hence I prefer him!
 
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Trump discarded two wives and married a third one yugoslavia origin model. He also coerced more than one to become one night stands for him.These came out to accuse

him and spoil his chances to become president.He was proud of not paying taxes [some admired him for getting away with it]. His language was colourful. yet he struck a

chord in people who were disillusioned with the privileged class controlling the country thru stock exchange and US congress and senate.

Ravana hardly describes him
 
krish44 said:
Trump discarded two wives and married a third one yugoslavia origin model. He also coerced more than one to become one night stands for him.These came out to accuse

him and spoil his chances to become president.He was proud of not paying taxes [some admired him for getting away with it]. His language was colourful. yet he struck a

chord in people who were disillusioned with the privileged class controlling the country thru stock exchange and US congress and senate.

Ravana hardly describes him
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You see Krish ji...this would have made him more attractive to female voters.

Believe me females got the whiff of testosterone!LOL

Females admire bad boys as long as the bad boy is not their husband.

Men too admire bad boys cos they secretly desire to be one!
 
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Americans have made their choice. Donald Trump will bring a change in administration. He is a friend of India and openly admired Prime Minister Narendra Modi.Let is hope to see a resurgent US.

Brahmanyan
Bangalore.
 
Brahmanyan said:
Americans have made their choice. Donald Trump will bring a change in administration. He is a friend of India and openly admired Prime Minister Narendra Modi.Let is hope to see a resurgent US.

Brahmanyan
Bangalore.
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Trump is a business Moghul...Modi is a Gujju..Gujjus and Business go hand in hand.

So lets see wait and see what happens in this Karobaar(Transaction)
 
sravna said:
There is a high command to which I listen. Spirituality is about balancing everything, right?
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LOL!

So its not as if you have been "tamed"..its just that you are lying low cos the situation is not conducive for your firebrand spirituality when the audience is not receptive..its like you are thinking "Why cast pearls before porcine"LOL
 
renuka said:
LOL!

So its not as if you have been "tamed"..its just that you are lying low cos the situation is not conducive for your firebrand spirituality when the audience is not receptive..its like you are thinking "Why cast pearls before porcine"LOL
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Dear Renuka,

A statement can be interpreted in different ways. There is no other reason other than what I have said. We need to consider other views also and that is what I did.
 
Who voted for whom! There is a huge divide!! It will get exacerbated in Trump regime!! There is so much of visceral hatred between the 2 contenders!!

Trump's supported are rural, suburban, protestant/catholic, white, non college and above 45 years!! I was startled to see the stark difference!!
 
Donald trumps Clinton, Don of a new era, what pushed Trump to his triumph, Whitelash against a Black President are some of the catchy headlines...Have you seen any more? Please do share those!!
 
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