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The magic of spiritual energy

Yes Sir only me. There is no force on you to accept it and I will still encourage your views. Take it easy Sir. The world is not going to get crumbling down

BTW, before I go any further, understand that I am "taking it easy" as you can witness from my measured & erudite statements. I've not even begun to slice & dice you yet.

Also, the world shall not "crumble down" while you & I still exist for the moment BUT it may if you achieve complete omnipotence.

Guess, it must get lonely up there all alone by yourself with your illusionary thoughts of grandeur as you fast approach your "almost" omnipotence state because now, you've elevated further to 9.5 plus already from what I last heard.

Take this reality lesson from someone who's died before & returned (documented) to THIS world of MAYA - please attempt to keep a controlled check on the spurts of your spiritual growth lest you disappear from this plane altogether & exist everywhere & every time like the all-knowing Parabrahman. Hope you saw the ending of the movie "Lucy" when one disappears into "nothingness" (no physical body) by just the mere action of brain-function evolution. That theory is science based.

There's no reasoning with an ignoramus mind.

As a "nobody", I've no more respect for you or your near "omnipotence". Imagine if I feel as so, I am sad for you as to what others with "better minds", think of you now with your wild claims. You're full of it! I rest my case.

Be well.
 
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Yes Sir the world is a learning ground. Don't feel sad that you have to learn. Enjoy the journey

I'm still learning (work in progress) as I had already professed several times in this forum. I came here to learn & share & actually regret the state of affairs witnessed here to date. There are aplenty of irksome personalities "existing" who are just too big for their shoes.

Time is the ultimate teacher of experience as we've been asked to "wait" by a "greater" mind.

I am enjoying myself as you see how I pen my replies. If I'm not, you'd be the first to know through my lashing with my mediocre expressive written capabilities.

Be well.
 
Dear Raaj Sir

I cannot write as eloquently as you can and so the short replies. Please bear with me and I will be happy to provide you with clarifications if needed.
 
I understand Sir you are the one who decides what is humility and what is not. I will not ask you who gave you that authority. Happy judging

No, I don't! Common sense & general consensus does, which is doubtful at this forum except for Dr Renuka (while the rest of the bystanders stay silent) who points such digressions out quickly but in a more diplomatic & subtle style unlike me who's always been pointblank, not because of ego but as a result of primed & prudent accumulated knowledge & experience.

I've already stated my position & stand clearly before in another unpleasant engagement with an active member (you're aware of this) here before: I don't take S*** from anybody, if I'm confident I'm right. That said, I'd be the first to apologize if I'm wrong even to a child (pun on your kids' energies posts) who I've been hard on. A grown-up like you, I'll eat you alive for breakfast!

You're clearly pulling unsubstantiated figures from out of your A**! When called out, instead of producing such evidence or correcting your claims (gave you a way out to say they were typos), you retort to "clever" comebacks like the replies above which are bordering on idiocy & out of total whack.

"You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time." ` Abraham Lincoln

"Sometimes people don't want to hear the truth because they don't want their illusions destroyed." ` Friedrich Nietzsche


In case, you forget, the word "humility" is defined in all major dictionaries as I've suggested earlier because that's what linguist experts have set its definition as, with supporting evidence which you've constantly failed to produce to back up your silly & atrocious figures.

I've even asked you nicely to test each of us out politely by engaging in a healthy energy transmission exercise. You've clearly sidestepped it because you CANNORT DELIVER & if you had, your true low-level ability would have become evident!

As a learned person yourself, defining "humility "otherwise is downright morbid because you're not a linguist expert! Sadly, by now, you would have become aware of my limited (still much to learn) linguist prowess.

You or NO human can or attempt to even try & give me any AUTHORITY to do or say anything I want within acceptable boundaries! Only the SOURCE can do so & I'll humbly accept such DIVINE will without any resistance.

You think you're just one of the rare few who engage me with such ridiculous quips & expect me to just take them lying down! There have been many in the past & many more to go from the way things are heading. I accept & respect humility but not MAYA-induced arrogance from any damn mortal I've been destined to run into!

I thought I'd quit this unfruitful & uneventful forum, but you've just convinced me to hang around a little longer. Hurray for you, again as you've started an uncontrollable avalanche!

Please use your senior member title/status to REPORT all my posts by contacting the Moderator (up to this point considered young, educated, forward-thinking & rational) to have me reprimanded & banned from this forum altogether.

If that fateful event came to pass, I shall reproduce everything here I've saved screenshots of everything to this point) I was involved in & share at every other forum platform of a similar nature on the internet to draw more cumulative traffic & undesired attention to this forum showcasing your doltishness as already apparently displayed. You will become a laughingstock & so will everyone who associates with you. I don't make threats but carry out what I say with conviction. How's that for Karmic payback because as the West like to say, Karma is a B****?

So, if you're thinking to continue to engage me with blatant disregard for intelligent discussions & debates, I got news for you - you've have no amount of power that can shield you enough from my attentive wrath. Wake up, little man; I don't care what your chronological age is!

You know what your problem is:

"Idle hands are the devil's workshop" ~ Chaucer

I'm putting it clearly here for one & all to see & understand, I'm just getting started with you & am already sharpening my Vishakha fangs (note my profile avatar) specially for you. Besides the other guy who fenced with me earlier, I'm going to truly & thoroughly enjoy my onslaught on you at every post you put out here or anywhere else I find you on the internet.

You've been warned. You won't know what true venom is till you've felt mine. I'm a force to be reckoned with & you don't want to be in my path. I say all this with utmost respect & humility to you as I bow to your knowledge & NOT TO YOU!!!

So, I suggest you BACK OFF as these last few messages to you, are merely a small sample of what I'm truly capable of. You would want me on your side as a dependable friend & not as your enemy which you claim to have many off.

Trust me when I say that EVEN your enemies will be afraid of me & won't want to upset me. I cannot put it anymore clearly. You've crossed the point of no return & only one of us will remain standing (literally). 10^of whatever silly figure you claim you have/control over, my A**! I'm ready to engage you here on this plane, on the ethereal plane or if you desire, using any force or colored magic. Let's tango, dude!

Good luck to you!
 
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I think to align with Dharma would be better.
Then eventually go beyond that too as in

sarva-dharmān parityajya mām ekaṁ śharaṇaṁ vraja
ahaṁ tvāṁ sarva-pāpebhyo mokṣhayiṣhyāmi mā śhuchaḥ

sarva-dharmān—all varieties of dharmas; parityajya—abandoning; mām—unto me; ekam—only; śharaṇam—take refuge; vraja—take; aham—I; tvām—you; sarva—all; pāpebhyaḥ—from sinful reactions; mokṣhayiṣhyāmi—shall liberate; mā—do not; śhuchaḥ—fear

sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam sharanam vraja
aham tvam sarva-papebhyo mokshayishyami ma shuchah

Translation
BG 18.66: Abandon all varieties of dharmas and simply surrender unto Me alone. I shall liberate you from all sinful reactions; do not fear.
 
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I think to align with Dharma would be better.
Then eventually go beyond that too as in

sarva-dharmān parityajya mām ekaṁ śharaṇaṁ vraja
ahaṁ tvāṁ sarva-pāpebhyo mokṣhayiṣhyāmi mā śhuchaḥ

sarva-dharmān—all varieties of dharmas; parityajya—abandoning; mām—unto me; ekam—only; śharaṇam—take refuge; vraja—take; aham—I; tvām—you; sarva—all; pāpebhyaḥ—from sinful reactions; mokṣhayiṣhyāmi—shall liberate; mā—do not; śhuchaḥ—fear

sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam sharanam vraja
aham tvam sarva-papebhyo mokshayishyami ma shuchah

Translation
BG 18.66: Abandon all varieties of dharmas and simply surrender unto Me alone. I shall liberate you from all sinful reactions; do not fear.

Don't talk of Dharma while sitting on your high horse.

Humility & loss of ego are its mainstays. You've neither!
 
Thank you Sir. They are indeed huge figures. Otherwise why would what I say be of interest. Think about it

So, you then admittedly agree that you pulled that figure out of your A** to draw attention to yourself?

You've floored me with your modesty!

That's why I keep saying think before you open your mouth! You don't listen, do you? Are you even hearing yourself?

You're no thinker but & exact opposite of that term... such an A******!

Note: I'm coming down hard on you because you've engaged me on an open forum with audiences world-over. It's being recorded in the annals of history as we type including for the eyes of my children & their children's children & so forth, if they were ever to stumble onto this website at a later time.

They know me as someone who doesn't pick a fight unnecessarily as I'm an eccentric & one who never backs from one either if it was "unfortunate" enough to have found me.

You're become that "unfortunate" now.

Kudos!
 
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Don't worry Sir. Technology will come to our rescue. You and I will be as new avatars with all the info about us uploaded into supercomputers. Anyway it will be worth the wait Sir

It already has, you blockhead... how do you think I'm interacting with you?

Silly guy... trying to be smart & profound while coming across as a brilliant court jester!

Who was your teacher(s)? If they can only see you now...

Thank you for the opportunities you are continuing to provide me for all these hilarious exchanges. I enjoy dissecting every word you say. I'm not a Master at anything (no hint of an ego) but in this respect, I am a true Master (a tiny hint of ego; sorry Shiva, I cannot help it as this guy is just asking for it)!!!

It's so easy to make it stop. You just don't have that capacity... admit it.

My bad, Karma.
 
I trust in your ability to connect unconnected statements. I really don't see you as a small mind Sir

Sorry, I don't process like you do!

We are worlds (Lokas, if you will) apart in this aspect.

I've never seen myself as nether a big mind or person but if you insist, I cannot stand in the way of how you account for having arrived (processed) at that conclusion.

It is humbling to know.
 
Dear Dr Raaj and Sravna,

Take a look at this video.
I am pretty sure both of you would have totally different perspectives.



Dr Renuka,

One of my all-time favorite Tamil movie comedic characterizations decades ago.

I enjoyed the reminiscence of it all.

Yes, it does apply to this awkward situation... both are speaking in the same language medium (mostly) albeit at varied frequencies... one with logic & the other not so much.

Only the good people at this forum or other visitors can figure out who is which of the two. Language at times, even if the same, can be a deterrent to effective understanding of coherent principles & ideas.

Regards.
 
Good scientific temper Sir! Do continue with your questions as science and technology take us all for a ride with its unquestionable temper

No temper. Just trying to process how futile it is to have exchanges with someone who's in la la land. It's never going to get through. I'm sad for myself & others witnessing this train wreck.
 
I had always thought quantity was more important to Science. Thank you for pointing out it is quality

Really, do you now?

I think you've confused your powerful mind with misconstruing large data collection for research & the resultant applications that they entail, hopefully, with tangible quality.

E.g. of large data collection (quantity) the latest boo boo by OpenAI... concerns have been raised about its literal prompt-following behavior and gaps in common-sense reasoning, which could lead to misleading or harmful outputs (dubious quality).

This is what "lack of quality" means, in case it hasn't dawned on you yet, Mr Smarty pants.
 
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Science is way too arrogant. It really doesn't want a win win situation. That's the attitude of someone who eventually loses.

Agreed & not. You are not a scientist to state this decisively or conclusively. If you are, come out of your closet.

But what you are is decisively "arrogant" no matter what or "who" may say otherwise with yur head up in the clouds of la la land.

I've studied human behavior & minds for over 40 odd years & rarely (never say never; James Bond & Sean Connery fan) misfire. Observations lead to conclusions. Conclusions lead to categorizations. How else to profile individuals?

Thank you.
 
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Okay!

Enough of these trysts. I got to get some really productive work done. My today's posts will as usual, take a couple of days to be approved by the moderator.

I must say, I had fun.

Ahh... the beauty & joy of life & living. The display of incredibly unlimited idiocy & the sheer stupidity of us mortals (me included). If we were perfect & near omnipotence, why would be back here caught in the birth-death-rebirth cycle? Food for thought, no?

I think I'm really going to enjoy 2025 more than I first thought. It's good be alive again after my NDE. I love action & am getting quite a bit of it at this forum. I'm genuinely thankful for that.

Happy New Year & May 2025 Be The Best Year Ever!

God bless all the moderator(s), readers, members, guests & visitors.
 
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Dear Raaj Sir

As I was traveling in Chennai I saw a board with the words 0 watt. It struck me indeed we could agree on something. The power of 10^35 watt may not be a typo but probably not correct. I find only 0 watt reaching me. So you may take this thought of the humongous figure thats been bothering you out of your mind and have a peaceful sleep.
 
Dear Dr Raaj and Sravna,

Take a look at this video.
I am pretty sure both of you would have totally different perspectives.



Dr Renuka,

My bad, I missed your lines in my reply:

"I am pretty sure both of you would have totally different perspectives."
"You only need gullible people and you can push any logic. What do you say?
"

I beg to differ, Ma'am!


Are you "gullible" even to have put that question out?

"Logic," by any measure, is still "logic." It's not mathematics, where there are usually absolutes. That said, in quadratic & simultaneous equations, "x" can have two or more values depending on the applications & the fields they are used in, like complex theoretical physics or cosmology.

I cannot assume to "push" a concept of "logic" to the level of "illogical" because the "illogical" borders on "absurdity" with no redeeming qualities no matter how one phrases it. As I've suggested multiple times, everything is a matter of "perspective."

One man's meat is another's poison. Walk into a temple, point at the idol, & you can either say it's just a piece of stone or it's imbued with God's energy & presence. Neither perception is wrong because it is what "is & is not; everything & nothing," in the eyes of the beholder.

What we need to do, is to keep it civil & peaceful, is to attempt compromises using diligent, intelligent, discussion, debate, & discourse - the secret to diplomacy & coexistence. Unfortunately, not everyone is able to maintain this equilibrium because of bias & arrogance.

When one party digs in their heels bordering on "absurdity" without substantiation, it goes beyond "logical," don't you agree? The 9.5 you raised your eyebrows, like it did for me, stands at that this "absurd level" in this context. I still insisted that I'm not even a 0.5 on that colossal scale and was continually addressed with "clever" retorts.

Let's take an example: if Shiva appears among us in our daily lives in Kali Yuga, walking around telling everyone who HE is and wanting some form of acknowledgment & respect, will you or anyone believe HIM immediately without question or start thinking who's this dude wearing a costume from a drama production? Won't you ask for proof of power and miracles before you accept HIS divinity? Even Jesus had to perform miracles before he was given a second look.

Man is bestowed with the power of thought (sixth sense) to question everything & anything around him. Because our ancient philosophers asked questions, we've advanced to this level of scientific discoveries and technological advancement to-date. Spiritual advancement is still up for debate because of charlatans and fake Godmen who have ruined it for all, especially for the real seekers of divine knowledge; that which cannot be seen but only felt & observed indiscreetly.

Without asking, you're not using your full capacities & capabilities responsibly, and that's a great insult to our Creator because it has been envisioned that HE made us in HIS image.

HE is deemed to have emotions like passion, love, understanding, compassion, anger, & so on. Thus, the statement that we can invoke HIS wrath by making HIM angry (Kadavul Kutham). Not asking is literally following like sheep, exhibiting the "herd instinct."

Why would you, if you had this undesirable instinct, continue to explore your spiritual side by exchanging ideas & asking questions on this forum or anywhere else? Why don't you completely stop asking questions & mull over the answers within your moral code, which is all the compass you'll ever need, isn't it?

Search within, NOT without because God is in you (Kada-vul) and we are "within" HIM (Sarvam Shivamayam), as there can be nothing "outside/beyond" of HIM as HE is creation itself.

Another insane example: You're a medical doctor & for this scenario, a surgeon working in a small remote village, managing the emergency/trauma station. A patient is brought in with a serious injury that requires immediate surgery, but the previous healthcare team failed to top up the anesthesia medicines & gases. The operating equipment wasn't adequately sterilized, & the suture kits, cotton balls, bandages, plasters, pins, etc. were insufficient to complete the operation safely & successfully. What would you do?

As the doctor on duty, won't you ask why things were left undone (if I were you, I would have thrown a fit & rage)? A person's life is at stake, and due to the inefficient & cavalier attitude of the previous team, you're left holding the bag, having to find quick & safe workarounds to deal with the life-threatening situation at hand, isn't it?

You needed to ask those difficult & troubling questions to fix this preposterous state of affairs, didn't you? That's why I meant by "insane" for this example.

Seeking spiritual knowledge is similar. There are multitudes of interpretations, explanations, & theories out there. One has to sift through all that "noise", no matter how "logical" they may sound at one moment while sounding extremely ridiculous (like Scientology) at other instances. You will eventually find one that resonates with you spiritually, emotionally, & logically appealing to your own essence. Spirituality is one's intimate interaction with their personal Creator & belief-system.

You won't get from Point A to B by throwing "logic" out of the window or by accepting "absurdity," no matter how well it's dressed up.

"BS," by any measure, is still "BS."

I'm truly sorry to have come across as merciless to many here because I am, to my enemies. That's just the way I'm hardwired. As much as I'm merciless, I also forgive easily if approached appropriately.

To err is human, to forgive is Divine. Don't be like me; be divinity.

Hope you have a great 2025!
 
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BTW, before I go any further, understand that I am "taking it easy" as you can witness from my measured & erudite statements. I've not even begun to slice & dice you yet.

Also, the world shall not "crumble down" while you & I still exist for the moment BUT it may if you achieve complete omnipotence.

Guess, it must get lonely up there all alone by yourself with your illusionary thoughts of grandeur as you fast approach your "almost" omnipotence state because now, you've elevated further to 9.5 plus already from what I last heard.

Take this reality lesson from someone who's died before & returned (documented) to THIS world of MAYA - please attempt to keep a controlled check on the spurts of your spiritual growth lest you disappear from this plane altogether & exist everywhere & every time like the all-knowing Parabrahman. Hope you saw the ending of the movie "Lucy" when one disappears into "nothingness" (no physical body) by just the mere action of brain-function evolution. That theory is science based.

There's no reasoning with an ignoramus mind.

As a "nobody", I've no more respect for you or your near "omnipotence". Imagine if I feel as so, I am sad for you as to what others with "better minds", think of you now with your wild claims. You're full of it! I rest my case.

Be well.
Don't let emotions get the better of you. I don't see any substance to respond to.
 
I'm still learning (work in progress) as I had already professed several times in this forum. I came here to learn & share & actually regret the state of affairs witnessed here to date. There are aplenty of irksome personalities "existing" who are just too big for their shoes.

Time is the ultimate teacher of experience as we've been asked to "wait" by a "greater" mind.

I am enjoying myself as you see how I pen my replies. If I'm not, you'd be the first to know through my lashing with my mediocre expressive written capabilities.

Be well.
Irksome personalities need to exist Sir. I think you have not fully grasped the methodology of maya. Good luck
 
No, I don't! Common sense & general consensus does, which is doubtful at this forum except for Dr Renuka (while the rest of the bystanders stay silent) who points such digressions out quickly but in a more diplomatic & subtle style unlike me who's always been pointblank, not because of ego but as a result of primed & prudent accumulated knowledge & experience.

I've already stated my position & stand clearly before in another unpleasant engagement with an active member (you're aware of this) here before: I don't take S*** from anybody, if I'm confident I'm right. That said, I'd be the first to apologize if I'm wrong even to a child (pun on your kids' energies posts) who I've been hard on. A grown-up like you, I'll eat you alive for breakfast!

You're clearly pulling unsubstantiated figures from out of your A**! When called out, instead of producing such evidence or correcting your claims (gave you a way out to say they were typos), you retort to "clever" comebacks like the replies above which are bordering on idiocy & out of total whack.

"You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time." ` Abraham Lincoln

"Sometimes people don't want to hear the truth because they don't want their illusions destroyed." ` Friedrich Nietzsche


In case, you forget, the word "humility" is defined in all major dictionaries as I've suggested earlier because that's what linguist experts have set its definition as, with supporting evidence which you've constantly failed to produce to back up your silly & atrocious figures.

I've even asked you nicely to test each of us out politely by engaging in a healthy energy transmission exercise. You've clearly sidestepped it because you CANNORT DELIVER & if you had, your true low-level ability would have become evident!

As a learned person yourself, defining "humility "otherwise is downright morbid because you're not a linguist expert! Sadly, by now, you would have become aware of my limited (still much to learn) linguist prowess.

You or NO human can or attempt to even try & give me any AUTHORITY to do or say anything I want within acceptable boundaries! Only the SOURCE can do so & I'll humbly accept such DIVINE will without any resistance.

You think you're just one of the rare few who engage me with such ridiculous quips & expect me to just take them lying down! There have been many in the past & many more to go from the way things are heading. I accept & respect humility but not MAYA-induced arrogance from any damn mortal I've been destined to run into!

I thought I'd quit this unfruitful & uneventful forum, but you've just convinced me to hang around a little longer. Hurray for you, again as you've started an uncontrollable avalanche!

Please use your senior member title/status to REPORT all my posts by contacting the Moderator (up to this point considered young, educated, forward-thinking & rational) to have me reprimanded & banned from this forum altogether.

If that fateful event came to pass, I shall reproduce everything here I've saved screenshots of everything to this point) I was involved in & share at every other forum platform of a similar nature on the internet to draw more cumulative traffic & undesired attention to this forum showcasing your doltishness as already apparently displayed. You will become a laughingstock & so will everyone who associates with you. I don't make threats but carry out what I say with conviction. How's that for Karmic payback because as the West like to say, Karma is a B****?

So, if you're thinking to continue to engage me with blatant disregard for intelligent discussions & debates, I got news for you - you've have no amount of power that can shield you enough from my attentive wrath. Wake up, little man; I don't care what your chronological age is!

You know what your problem is:

"Idle hands are the devil's workshop" ~ Chaucer

I'm putting it clearly here for one & all to see & understand, I'm just getting started with you & am already sharpening my Vishakha fangs (note my profile avatar) specially for you. Besides the other guy who fenced with me earlier, I'm going to truly & thoroughly enjoy my onslaught on you at every post you put out here or anywhere else I find you on the internet.

You've been warned. You won't know what true venom is till you've felt mine. I'm a force to be reckoned with & you don't want to be in my path. I say all this with utmost respect & humility to you as I bow to your knowledge & NOT TO YOU!!!

So, I suggest you BACK OFF as these last few messages to you, are merely a small sample of what I'm truly capable of. You would want me on your side as a dependable friend & not as your enemy which you claim to have many off.

Trust me when I say that EVEN your enemies will be afraid of me & won't want to upset me. I cannot put it anymore clearly. You've crossed the point of no return & only one of us will remain standing (literally). 10^of whatever silly figure you claim you have/control over, my A**! I'm ready to engage you here on this plane, on the ethereal plane or if you desire, using any force or colored magic. Let's tango, dude!

Good luck to

Sounds very childish Sir. Please read it yourself again
 
So, you then admittedly agree that you pulled that figure out of your A** to draw attention to yourself?

You've floored me with your modesty!

That's why I keep saying think before you open your mouth! You don't listen, do you? Are you even hearing yourself?

You're no thinker but & exact opposite of that term... such an A******!

Note: I'm coming down hard on you because you've engaged me on an open forum with audiences world-over. It's being recorded in the annals of history as we type including for the eyes of my children & their children's children & so forth, if they were ever to stumble onto this website at a later time.

They know me as someone who doesn't pick a fight unnecessarily as I'm an eccentric & one who never backs from one either if it was "unfortunate" enough to have found me.

You're become that "unfortunate" now.

Kudos!
You seem to be competing with the westerners for looking like a clown in front of everybody. Don't further embarass yourself. Have some self pity
 
Dear Raaj Sir

I cannot write as eloquently as you can and so the short replies. Please bear with me and I will be happy to provide you with clarifications if needed.

Dr Renuka,

My bad, I missed your lines in my reply:

"I am pretty sure both of you would have totally different perspectives."
"You only need gullible people and you can push any logic. What do you say?
"

I beg to differ, Ma'am!


Are you "gullible" even to have put that question out?

"Logic," by any measure, is still "logic." It's not mathematics, where there are usually absolutes. That said, in quadratic & simultaneous equations, "x" can have two or more values depending on the applications & the fields they are used in, like complex theoretical physics or cosmology.

I cannot assume to "push" a concept of "logic" to the level of "illogical" because the "illogical" borders on "absurdity" with no redeeming qualities no matter how one phrases it. As I've suggested multiple times, everything is a matter of "perspective."

One man's meat is another's poison. Walk into a temple, point at the idol, & you can either say it's just a piece of stone or it's imbued with God's energy & presence. Neither perception is wrong because it is what "is & is not; everything & nothing," in the eyes of the beholder.

What we need to do, is to keep it civil & peaceful, is to attempt compromises using diligent, intelligent, discussion, debate, & discourse - the secret to diplomacy & coexistence. Unfortunately, not everyone is able to maintain this equilibrium because of bias & arrogance.

When one party digs in their heels bordering on "absurdity" without substantiation, it goes beyond "logical," don't you agree? The 9.5 you raised your eyebrows, like it did for me, stands at that this "absurd level" in this context. I still insisted that I'm not even a 0.5 on that colossal scale and was continually addressed with "clever" retorts.

Let's take an example: if Shiva appears among us in our daily lives in Kali Yuga, walking around telling everyone who HE is and wanting some form of acknowledgment & respect, will you or anyone believe HIM immediately without question or start thinking who's this dude wearing a costume from a drama production? Won't you ask for proof of power and miracles before you accept HIS divinity? Even Jesus had to perform miracles before he was given a second look.

Man is bestowed with the power of thought (sixth sense) to question everything & anything around him. Because our ancient philosophers asked questions, we've advanced to this level of scientific discoveries and technological advancement to-date. Spiritual advancement is still up for debate because of charlatans and fake Godmen who have ruined it for all, especially for the real seekers of divine knowledge; that which cannot be seen but only felt & observed indiscreetly.

Without asking, you're not using your full capacities & capabilities responsibly, and that's a great insult to our Creator because it has been envisioned that HE made us in HIS image.

HE is deemed to have emotions like passion, love, understanding, compassion, anger, & so on. Thus, the statement that we can invoke HIS wrath by making HIM angry (Kadavul Kutham). Not asking is literally following like sheep, exhibiting the "herd instinct."

Why would you, if you had this undesirable instinct, continue to explore your spiritual side by exchanging ideas & asking questions on this forum or anywhere else? Why don't you completely stop asking questions & mull over the answers within your moral code, which is all the compass you'll ever need, isn't it?

Search within, NOT without because God is in you (Kada-vul) and we are "within" HIM (Sarvam Shivamayam), as there can be nothing "outside/beyond" of HIM as HE is creation itself.

Another insane example: You're a medical doctor & for this scenario, a surgeon working in a small remote village, managing the emergency/trauma station. A patient is brought in with a serious injury that requires immediate surgery, but the previous healthcare team failed to top up the anesthesia medicines & gases. The operating equipment wasn't adequately sterilized, & the suture kits, cotton balls, bandages, plasters, pins, etc. were insufficient to complete the operation safely & successfully. What would you do?

As the doctor on duty, won't you ask why things were left undone (if I were you, I would have thrown a fit & rage)? A person's life is at stake, and due to the inefficient & cavalier attitude of the previous team, you're left holding the bag, having to find quick & safe workarounds to deal with the life-threatening situation at hand, isn't it?

You needed to ask those difficult & troubling questions to fix this preposterous state of affairs, didn't you? That's why I meant by "insane" for this example.

Seeking spiritual knowledge is similar. There are multitudes of interpretations, explanations, & theories out there. One has to sift through all that "noise", no matter how "logical" they may sound at one moment while sounding extremely ridiculous (like Scientology) at other instances. You will eventually find one that resonates with you spiritually, emotionally, & logically appealing to your own essence. Spirituality is one's intimate interaction with their personal Creator & belief-system.

You won't get from Point A to B by throwing "logic" out of the window or by accepting "absurdity," no matter how well it's dressed up.

"BS," by any measure, is still "BS."

I'm truly sorry to have come across as merciless to many here because I am, to my enemies. That's just the way I'm hardwired. As much as I'm merciless, I also forgive easily if approached appropriately.

To err is human, to forgive is Divine. Don't be like me; be divinity.

Hope you have a great 2025!
Dear Sir,
When it comes to spirituality, i never look for evidence..

For spirituality I use my heart.

I once met a sufi mystic who just came up to me and told me that he received a message specifically for me from the tomb of a Sufi saint and told me something.

I didnt ask him..how did you get the message from a tomb of a saint.
I just felt from my heart it was a message relayed to me for a reason.

Coming to the 9.5 claim..do I believe it or feel its true?

When I used to teach Sanskrit, I had lots of spiritualy inclined adult students who told me they have powers and if they found it hard to grasp the lesson, some even felt there is negative energy around...so they would recite mantras to clear the area.

Honestly they were not doing their homework and found it difficult to follow the lessons hence felt anxious....but I still allowed them to think they needed to recite mantras to remove negative energy.
Reason? Because a slight pause in lesson might decrease their own anxiety levels and meanwhile I could take a sip of water.

If Sravna is a 9.5, I might not need to believe or agree or feel anything...I had already mentioned in a previous post that omnipotence can not be measured.
The only 9.5 one can be sure of is a Richter scale.
 
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