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[prasad1]

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You're hounding her now aren't you? This is beyond sick! You're a bully. People can see for themselves hopefully how nasty, insensitive and mean you are.

Yes this is too far. I admire your courage to stand up to a bully for your friend. BRAVO.
Reneka needs all her friends now.

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

What is wrong in expecting a religious minded
Indian married lady to put on her pottu.

If women are going to refuse to do it even a gun point,
then who is bullying our customs and traditions???

This not a point to revolt against to prove woman's independence
or indifference and insensitivity to the feelings of the elders.

Any revolution must have an aim an ambition to achieve.
What does a lady lose by putting on a pottu???

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

Indian women belonging to the Hindu community have been wearing the Tilaka for many millennia. The tilak they wear is generally a red round dot called the bindi, which signifies the fact that they are married. If the tilak is of any other color, then, most probably, it has been worn for a decorative purpose. The size of the bindi can vary from small to large. Hindu women who are married wear an additional tika between their hair-parting. This form of tilak is known as sindoor and it indicates her marital status.

Indian Tilak- Tradion of Tilak in India, Significance of Tilak in Indian Culture

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

Third Eye or Ajna Chakra
The 6[SUP]th[/SUP] Chakra is known as Third Eye or Brow or Ajna Chakra. This Chakra is located between the eyes and is associated with the pituitary gland, eyes, nose, ears and skeletal system. The color associated with the third eye chakra is Indigo. The gemstones associated with this chakra are indigo Sapphire, azurite and iolite and is helpful in opening our internal eyes and curing mental disorders.Some diseases and conditions associated with the Third Eye Chakra are migraine, glaucoma, cataracts and sinus problems. A balanced and healthy Third Eye Chakra can make one orderly, clear sighted, faithful, fearless, practical, idealistic and highly intuitive whereas an imbalance in this chakra can make one inconsiderate
Significance and Location of the 7 Chakras and Diseases associated with them

When we wear out pottu we cover and protect the third eye lying underneath the eyebrow center..
We also activate the agna chakram by the acupressure we apply there.
Men, women, boys and girls of all ages used to have some ind of religious mark on their foreheads.
If people want to discontinue this age old custom and lose the benefits of it, it is their own misfortune.

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

Yes this is too far. I admire your courage to stand up to a bully for your friend. BRAVO.
Reneka needs all her friends now.

I can take care of my thread and do not need the help of self-proclaimed forum police.
Surely I will not allow any of my guests insulting and calling names any other guest of honor!
If ego struggle has to be sorted out, it is NOT going to happen in my threads for sure.

 

[amala]

Mami,

Let me be honest. I completely fail to see what ozone's continous sniping, sarcastic rude, mean nasty remarks to Renu, completely out of the blue have got to do with her wearing pottu et al. If you guys have an issue about her pottu or the lack of why not voice it earlier when she was discussing it. Why now after her traumatic incident. Ok even now its great to change the topic to pottu and all but why not ask politely. Why the continous sniping and mocking. How on earth is that nice especially now when she is already having a tough time. Surely this mocking and sniping is the last thing she needs.

Don't people have any sense of time, place and perspective?

And lets just say a lady doesn't want to wear a pottu why judge her or lose sleep over it. We are all strangers right. No point arguing about it. Express opinions nicely (ozone's is not nice by any stretch of the imagination) Its not even witty banter. Its below the belt. What does one gain being nasty about it? At the end of the day we cannot coerce anyone, least of all stranger on a public forum. So why not be mature and civil about it? Also why worry if any Tom Dick Harry, Mary or Sally is wearing or not wearing pottu. Lets just make sure our own kids, DILs grandkids relatives are wearing pottu, shall we.

And i don't honestly think this hounding Renu all of a sudden is about pottu. Its not the first time I've seen Ozone mocking her.

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

Yes this is too far. I admire your courage to stand up to a bully for your friend. BRAVO.
Reneka needs all her friends now.

COURAGE is not attacking a person like a pack of wolves for speaking honest truth.
COURAGE is facing this kind of group attack bravely and calmly like Mr. O3.
When the whole country praised the invisible dress worn by the king
only a lonely child had the courage to stand apart from the mad crowd
and tell the truth that the king was walking naked in the streets.
I hope you know the story already.

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

The Emperor's New Clothes

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Many years ago there lived an emperor who loved beautiful new clothes so much that he spent all his money on being finely dressed. His only interest was in going to the theater or in riding about in his carriage where he could show off his new clothes. He had a different costume for every hour of the day. Indeed, where it was said of other kings that they were at court, it could only be said of him that he was in his dressing room!

One day two swindlers came to the emperor's city. They said that they were weavers, claiming that they knew how to make the finest cloth imaginable. Not only were the colors and the patterns extraordinarily beautiful, but in addition, this material had the amazing property that it was to be invisible to anyone who was incompetent or stupid.

"It would be wonderful to have clothes made from that cloth," thought the emperor. "Then I would know which of my men are unfit for their positions, and I'd also be able to tell clever people from stupid ones." So he immediately gave the two swindlers a great sum of money to weave their cloth for him.
They set up their looms and pretended to go to work, although there was nothing at all on the looms. They asked for the finest silk and the purest gold, all of which they hid away, continuing to work on the empty looms, often late into the night.

"I would really like to know how they are coming with the cloth!" thought the emperor, but he was a bit uneasy when he recalled that anyone who was unfit for his position or stupid would not be able to see the material. Of course, he himself had nothing to fear, but still he decided to send someone else to see how the work was progressing.

"I'll send my honest old minister to the weavers," thought the emperor. He's the best one to see how the material is coming. He is very sensible, and no one is more worthy of his position than he.

So the good old minister went into the hall where the two swindlers sat working at their empty looms. "Goodness!" thought the old minister, opening his eyes wide. "I cannot see a thing!" But he did not say so.

The two swindlers invited him to step closer, asking him if it wasn't a beautiful design and if the colors weren't magnificent. They pointed to the empty loom, and the poor old minister opened his eyes wider and wider. He still could see nothing, for nothing was there. "Gracious" he thought. "Is it possible that I am stupid? I have never thought so. Am I unfit for my position? No one must know this. No, it will never do for me to say that I was unable to see the material."

"You aren't saying anything!" said one of the weavers.
"Oh, it is magnificent! The very best!" said the old minister, peering through his glasses. "This pattern and these colors! Yes, I'll tell the emperor that I am very satisfied with it!"

"That makes us happy!" said the two weavers, and they called the colors and the unusual pattern by name. The old minister listened closely so that he would be able say the same things when he reported back to the emperor, and that is exactly what he did.

The swindlers now asked for more money, more silk, and more gold, all of which they hid away. Then they continued to weave away as before on the empty looms.

The emperor sent other officials as well to observe the weavers' progress. They too were startled when they saw nothing, and they too reported back to him how wonderful the material was, advising him to have it made into clothes that he could wear in a grand procession. The entire city was alive in praise of the cloth. "Magnifique! Nysseligt! Excellent!" they said, in all languages. The emperor awarded the swindlers with medals of honor, bestowing on each of them the title Lord Weaver.

The swindlers stayed up the entire night before the procession was to take place, burning more than sixteen candles. Everyone could see that they were in a great rush to finish the emperor's new clothes. They pretended to take the material from the looms. They cut in the air with large scissors. They sewed with needles but without any thread. Finally they announced, "Behold! The clothes are finished!"

The emperor came to them with his most distinguished cavaliers. The two swindlers raised their arms as though they were holding something and said, "Just look at these trousers! Here is the jacket! This is the cloak!" and so forth. "They are as light as spider webs! You might think that you didn't have a thing on, but that is the good thing about them."

"Yes," said the cavaliers, but they couldn't see a thing, for nothing was there.
"Would his imperial majesty, if it please his grace, kindly remove his clothes." said the swindlers. "Then we will fit you with the new ones, here in front of the large mirror."

The emperor took off all his clothes, and the swindlers pretended to dress him, piece by piece, with the new ones that were to be fitted. They took hold of his waist and pretended to tie something about him. It was the train. Then the emperor turned and looked into the mirror.

"Goodness, they suit you well! What a wonderful fit!" they all said. "What a pattern! What colors! Such luxurious clothes!"
"The canopy to be carried above your majesty awaits outside," said the grandmaster of ceremonies.

"Yes, I am ready!" said the emperor. "Don't they fit well?" He turned once again toward the mirror, because it had to appear as though he were admiring himself in all his glory.

The chamberlains who were to carry the train held their hands just above the floor as if they were picking up the train. As they walked they pretended to hold the train high, for they could not let anyone notice that they could see nothing.

The emperor walked beneath the beautiful canopy in the procession, and all the people in the street and in their windows said, "Goodness, the emperor's new clothes are incomparable! What a beautiful train on his jacket. What a perfect fit!" No one wanted it to be noticed that he could see nothing, for then it would be said that he was unfit for his position or that he was stupid. None of the emperor's clothes had ever before received such praise.

"But he doesn't have anything on!" said a small child.

"Good Lord, let us hear the voice of an innocent child!" said the father, and whispered to another what the child had said.

"A small child said that he doesn't have anything on!"

Finally everyone was saying, "He doesn't have anything on!"

The emperor shuddered, for he knew that they were right, but he thought, "The procession must go on!" He carried himself even more proudly, and the chamberlains walked along behind carrying the train that wasn't there.

The Emperor's New Clothes: Tales of type 1620

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

Nature

Nature is but a name for an effect,
Whose cause is God.
William Cowper.

(Sound so much like our Hindu philosophy.
Prakruti is the manifestation of Purusha
The creation is an expression of God)

Accuse not Nature, she hath done her part;
Do thou but thine.
John Milton.

In Nature's book of secrecy
A little I can read.
William Shakespeare.

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

A point well worth remembering...
we can fool all the people for some time,
some people for all the time,
but not all the people all the time.

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

#4359.
Yes precisely what most people do even when exposed ...
just go on in life more proudly and more arrogantly
wearing the invisible cloak which isn't there.

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

Honest people can't stand the other honest people.
They prefer liars and pretenders instead.

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

We set better examples with what we DO
rather than what we Say over and over again!
Actions speak louder than words no doubt.

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

You're hounding her now aren't you? This is beyond sick! You're a bully. People can see for themselves hopefully how nasty, insensitive and mean you are.

Often I wonder whether I did the right thing by waking up
people who were happily hibernating in their homes. :couch2:

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

Dear Mr. O3,
When people will not listen to good words
nor see the good points we show them
nor even speak using civil words,
the best thing we can do is
what they themselves are doing
by closing 3/5 of gnana indriyas.
The difference is that
they try keep out the GOOD!
We will try keep out the BAD!!

 

[biswa]

What is wrong in expecting a religious minded
Indian married lady to put on her pottu.

If women are going to refuse to do it even a gun point,
then who is bullying our customs and traditions???

This not a point to revolt against to prove woman's independence
or indifference and insensitivity to the feelings of the elders.

Any revolution must have an aim an ambition to achieve.
What does a lady lose by putting on a pottu???

Sure, enforce your ideals in your own household with your daughter or your daughter-in-law. Why try to impose on a stranger you met in a forum?

 

[biswa]

Thank you for remembering and reminding the others that this is still my thread!

There is nothing called your thread / my thread. Once a thread is opened, anybody in the forum can comment on it. If you want exclusive write access then you should use a blog.

 

[renuka]

Dear Amala,

Thank you very much for standing up for me.

I just thank God today that I know the true nature of people.

Everyday seems to be a new chapter.

My major mistake that even though I faced a situation I still thought of everyone here and shared what I went through right away.

I thought Forum as my family.

But I guess I was not 100% correct.

I know that there were many well wishes here for me and I still hold them close to my heart.

 

[biswa]

Renuka,

Being somewhat more cynical than you, I do think anybody is anybody's family in the forum. This is just a diverse group of individuals, many are honest, most are sympathetic, some are indifferent, and a few are cruel, exploitative or even downright criminal. It is good to figure out who is who.

 

[renuka]

I wonder where and how the fellow hid his long gleaming sword
while walking on the road and waiting outside in the rain!!!

To slit the windpipe and kill a person, a small sharp knife or even razor will be enough.

Only in wars and battles we need long swords to keep ourselves
at a safe distance and try to harm the enemies.

To say the least a sword would be most in convenient to wield in a closed space.

You have no idea what a "Parang" is.
The closest word to describe it is a sword.

It is as long as an Indian Arival(I am not too sure if my spelling of Arival is right).
People keep it at the back of their shirt like how we see in Tamil Movies.

 

[prasad1]

Dear Amala,

Thank you very much for standing up for me.

I just thank God today that I know the true nature of people.

Everyday seems to be a new chapter.

My major mistake that even though I faced a situation I still thought of everyone here and shared what I went through right away.

I thought Forum as my family.

But I guess I was not 100% correct.

I know that there were many well wishes here for me and I still hold them close to my heart.

Renuka,
You are absolutely right Ms. VR is showing her true color.
Mr. Biswa,
You are right there is no personal threads. This is a public forum and every body has same rights.
People have digressed from the thread in the past and will do so in future.
Mr. Ozone was sniping at me on a different thread as well.

 

[nannilam_balasubramanian]

Dear Renuka Madam

I am too a small fry to advise you on this aspect. Above all everything, there is something
which monitors. Personal safety is must. The supreme power only has helped you from
getting out of that deadly occasion. You may plan for proper security to monitor and
screening of visitors through an able receptionist. If need be you may employ a security
guard. Please set aside all unwanted messages that appear towards you. God will be with you.


Balasubramanian
Ambattur

 

[ozone]

Sure, enforce your ideals in your own household with your daughter or your daughter-in-law. Why try to impose on a stranger you met in a forum?

well said. If you want do something that is private dont choose a public place.
And dont snipe on those who call it enough !!

 

[Raji Ram]

No no! Neither the forum nor this thread is exclusively for ladies. I can assure you sir!

OMG!

Hasty and again, Sis?

I was mentioning to Ozone Sir about the other forum in which I write! :typing:

 

[ozone]

You're a complete wind up merchant as we say. It is very easy to talk when you're not in the situation Renu was in. I hope, for your sake you'll never experience what she has.

thank you for your kind wishes. I do hope I will never face the situation.
I think just like others, you are missing the point, or rather bringing in an irrelevant point just to take snide.
If you read more carefully my post was more respectful than her portrait or rerun of the show over and over again and her responses to the comments.

If nothing else, my post has served its purpose of stopping the brooding over the incident - something more worthwhile for a chit chat than refusing to 'think over'.
I know I am alone and rest of you like the show.