Think or sink!

[Visalakshi Ramani]

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First you talked about *images* of the Gods and Goddesses and now you use over fertile imagination of using VeeNa as an Ayudha.

Well I can be imaginative too. Lord Buddha does not need any weapons for mass destruction, because he can release the poisonous gas you know from where when everyone is in deep meditation.

I am sure for the emanation of any gas

(poisonous or non poisonous)

there are only two outlets in a human body...

one up and on down-both forming the two ends of the food passage.

When, where and how were you exposed to this chemical warfare sir??

How did you survive to tell us about it???

Is the gas an INEVITABLE byproduct of

deep meditation or of ENLIGHTENMENT?

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

There are two factual problems here.

Lord Buddha might not have been actually so cute. There were some persons who had seen him in blood and flesh, unlike the imaginary mythology of many Hindu Gods and Goddesses.

Secondly Lord Buddha himself advocated 'nireeSvara", he would be grovelling in his grave if people thought he was an "ISvara" himself.

Rama, Krishna and many other avatars were seen

in flesh and blood by their contemporaries.

Does that make them less cute/ beautiful/ majestic???

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

"kadavul illai!" endru kooriyavarukkuch

silai amaiththu vazhipaduvathu...???

 

[Raji Ram]

........... When, where and how were you exposed to this chemical warfare sir??........

You totally missed the main point, Sis!! :ranger:

See this sentence:

......... Well I can be imaginative too. ......

 

[Raji Ram]

"kadavul illai!" endru kooriyavarukkuch silai amaiththu vazhipaduvathu...???

Well! What did Hiranyakashipu tell his citizens? :hail:

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

Well! What did Hiranyakashipu tell his citizens? :hail:

NOBODY worships or garlands any statue on HinranyaN!

In fact NO SUCH statue has been put up to my knowledge.

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

You totally missed the main point, Sis!! :ranger:

See this sentence:

To correlate three unrelated objects like

Buddha, poisonous gas and deep meditation

(however fertile be one's imagination)

there must have been a link

somehow, somewhere, sometime! eace:

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

"kadavul illai!" endru kooriyavarukkuch

silai amaiththu vazhipaduvathu...???

Buddha denied the existence of GOD

but himself made into a God and an avatar of Vishnu.

Hiranaya kasipu declared himself to be a god

and was torn to pieces by a lion-man-God.

An ordinary man denied the existence of God

and called all devotees as Junglees

and himself was made a demigod by his followers.

 

[Raji Ram]

NOBODY worships or garlands any statue on HinranyaN!

In fact NO SUCH statue has been put up to my knowledge.

Making statue while alive was NOT a trend in those days. Only Lord Rama made a golden Seetha!

HiraNyan forced everyone to worship him, instead of any other supreme power on earth! :whip:

People were praying him ONLY because of fear. But 'this' leader is prayed wholeheartedly! :hail:

 

[zebra16]

Rama, Krishna and many other avatars were seen

in flesh and blood by their contemporaries.

Does that make them less cute/ beautiful/ majestic???

Keeping aside the issue of "looks", at least there are some who doubt the existence of Rama and Krishna, may be because of their antiquity. But no one disputes that Buddha lived and walked among the people.

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

We have the same rivers, mountains, cities which figured in Ramayana and Mahabharata.

So IS everything is TRUE except the people and the events told in these epics???

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

Making statue while alive was NOT a trend in those days. Only Lord Rama made a golden Seetha!

HiraNyan forced everyone to worship him, instead of any other supreme power on earth! :whip:

People were praying him ONLY because of fear. But 'this' leader is prayed wholeheartedly! :hail:

Are you so sure
it is not out of fear
Oh Raji my dear???
Brahmins had their skins and scalps
carved with blades and knives!
I bet our mother can tell us more picturesquely
the tortures inflicted in those days by the black shirts.

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

Hee Gee Mr. Zee! :yo:
You are evading the main issue...:bolt:

the connection between
the chemical warfare, :boom:

very deep meditation

and the calm and serene Buddha.

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

dear Prof N_M
Have you heard about a duck-duck-duck-duck-duck-dumbo???

 

[Anand Manohar]

Dear Smt VR

Your post # 96

Please accept the fact that a widespread acceptance of an idea is no proof of its validity.

eg., If one is used to listening to Valmiki / Kambar / Tulsidas versions of Ramayana, that is not all
there is to it. A.K.Ramanujan, in his research found several versions of the Epic - from Europe
to the South East Asia. In one version AKR even found Rama and Sita being described as siblings!

A war fought over an abducted queen also has similarities with the Helen of Troy story.

Therefore, there no ONE version that is authentic and all else rubbish. There are at least 4 places in
India where the people living near a hill that is shaped like a human nose, will tell you that that is the
spot where Lakshmanan cut-off Soorpanaka's nose and there are at least 3 places where they will
tell you of the river crossing with Guhan - one on the banks of Ganga, second on the banks of Yamuna
and the third on the banks of Sarayu !

And when one goes to Indonesia one hears stories of how the abode of Valli is today's island of Bali.
Here, the name "Seenta" is a popular girl's name, supposedly named after the Heroine of Ramayana !

It is the Rama Dynasty that rules Thailand. Thailand, you know is a Buddhist Country and the ruling
dynasty there are descendants of the Khmers - who claim an unbroken lineage for over 1000 years !

Ok, if 'Rama" was a title given to the king in Thailand [ present Ruler is Rama The IX or X ] how did Mount Meru move
to Tanzania in Africa ?

Then when one goes to Antanarivo [ Madagaskar ] one hears of how the name of the place is derived from
Anantara Dweepa [ Anantara Theevu in Tamil ]. One is also given to understand that the fore-fathers of
the natives of Madagaskar formed part of Rama's army that fought in Lanka ! Hinduism to this part of the
world was 'taken' there by the Gujratis after Madagaskar gained independence from France in 1960. But long
before this they had tales relating to the Ramayana !

One more for your "Think or Sink" thread. If Allah = God = Ishwar, then Ramallah should read as Rameshwaram.
But the city of Ramallah is in Palestine !

I guess, if one 'thinks' too much, one may not exactly 'sink', chances are that one could go 'bonkers'.

Guruvethunai
Yay Yem

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

Truly said dear Dr. A.M. PhD!
Both by thinking too much
and knowing three much
a person is sure to become
loose in his screws
and go off the hook!
I do not care if Rama lived in
India/ Nepal/ Indonesia/Africa.
I will worship him with unshaken faith
whatever may be his nationality or lineage.

 

[sarang]

Is this another attempt to give away our wealth to foreigners even when they have not put a claim to it?

Anyway a worthwhile attempt. Let us wait for a response from palestinians, thais, islanders and the rest of the world understand what they have lost and why are shy of talking about it.

Dear Smt VR

Your post # 96

Please accept the fact that a widespread acceptance of an idea is no proof of its validity.

eg., If one is used to listening to Valmiki / Kambar / Tulsidas versions of Ramayana, that is not all
there is to it. A.K.Ramanujan, in his research found several versions of the Epic - from Europe
to the South East Asia. In one version AKR even found Rama and Sita being described as siblings!

A war fought over an abducted queen also has similarities with the Helen of Troy story.

Therefore, there no ONE version that is authentic and all else rubbish. There are at least 4 places in
India where the people living near a hill that is shaped like a human nose, will tell you that that is the
spot where Lakshmanan cut-off Soorpanaka's nose and there are at least 3 places where they will
tell you of the river crossing with Guhan - one on the banks of Ganga, second on the banks of Yamuna
and the third on the banks of Sarayu !

And when one goes to Indonesia one hears stories of how the abode of Valli is today's island of Bali.
Here, the name "Seenta" is a popular girl's name, supposedly named after the Heroine of Ramayana !

It is the Rama Dynasty that rules Thailand. Thailand, you know is a Buddhist Country and the ruling
dynasty there are descendants of the Khmers - who claim an unbroken lineage for over 1000 years !

Ok, if 'Rama" was a title given to the king in Thailand [ present Ruler is Rama The IX or X ] how did Mount Meru move
to Tanzania in Africa ?

Then when one goes to Antanarivo [ Madagaskar ] one hears of how the name of the place is derived from
Anantara Dweepa [ Anantara Theevu in Tamil ]. One is also given to understand that the fore-fathers of
the natives of Madagaskar formed part of Rama's army that fought in Lanka ! Hinduism to this part of the
world was 'taken' there by the Gujratis after Madagaskar gained independence from France in 1960. But long
before this they had tales relating to the Ramayana !

One more for your "Think or Sink" thread. If Allah = God = Ishwar, then Ramallah should read as Rameshwaram.
But the city of Ramallah is in Palestine !

I guess, if one 'thinks' too much, one may not exactly 'sink', chances are that one could go 'bonkers'.

Guruvethunai
Yay Yem

 

[Raji Ram]

Indians have very fertile imagination. They tell lot of new stories too.

One of the new stories:

There was one area in Pondicherry, now Puducheri, which was known as 'pAppAn chavadi', probably because there was an

agrahAram long back. Now, it is called 'panchavati' and a huge 'panchamukha Anjaneyar' temple is built. It is said that Rama

built his 'parNa sAlai' here and Ravana later came and abducted Devi Sita to Srilanka. Howzzzzzzzat?

Panchamukha Anjaneyar, Panchavati:

Picture courtesy: Google images.

 

[Anand Manohar]

Dear Tmt RR

Your post # 967.
You are correct I have been there - there are lot more yarns they spin there. I have also been
to Bhadrachallam, where too the same story is told. The Nizam of Hyderabad has made huge grants
to the Temple, and this is recorded history.- in engraved stone plaques and Govt Records

Dear Sarang Ji - Your post 966.

I don't see any " attempt at giving away of our wealth ". The worship of Lord Sri Rama is a matter of faith.
The work of A.K.Ramanujan is a work of research, as much as Sir C.V.Raman's work was on the
splitting of light. That Sir CVR's work led to terrific advancements in Spectrometry and Spectrography, doesn't
quite mean that it belittles / insults Surya Bhagwan / Surya Narayana / Ravi Shankara, in any way!
I don't see what has been squandered here to 'foreigners' !

The name "Salem" for a town / city can be found in several places in the world - US, Sweden,
Germany and South Africa. Why, even Jerusalem seems like a "Salem", with a prefix.

But if you mean the capital of Tamil Nadu losing its name "Madras", while a town in Oregon USA
retains it, maybe you have a point - could be a HUGE LOSS that we should be shy of !

Guruvethunai
Yay Yem

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

# 967

My dear Raji,

The maroovoo of the word can be in the other direction also.

Panachavati might have got distorted to paapanchavadi.

I do not think the living area is ever denoted by Chavadi.

It usually means only the resting places as in chatram-chavadi.

After all South India is quite close to Sri Lanka.

In all probability Ravan would think of abducting Sita

in the shortest route - as the crow flies

since it was an aerial abduction.

You yourself have visited very recently

the spot where jatayu was cremated by Ram and Lakshman.

The Sethu bridge also starts from TN very close to these spots.

It the whole thing is a fib as you seem to suggest

then our ancestors were expert liars and could weave stories

which could hold solid, liquid and vapor in it.

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

Dear Dr. A.M Ji
May I know the real number of the post we are discussing about.
I KNOW that it can't be #96 even by any remote chance!!!

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

When al the five continets formed a SINGLE land mass called Pangaea.

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

The continental drift.

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

A knowledge of this will explain many mysteries inexplicable otherwise!

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

NASA Images Find 1,750,000 Year Old Man-Made Bridge

Even if NASA proves beyond ALL doubts
the authenticity of Ramayana
our people will remain a gang of
Doubting Thomas all their lives.

To fib a story of this epic size, so long ago,
and to make it stand the test of time
Indians must have been master liars
or world class liars.