Time to Spread Shri Madhvacharya- and His Teachings etc

[sangom]

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Bu they were united in their efforts to keep out Charvakas , Buddhists and Jainists .

chArvAkas is quite an old story when these three babies had not even been thought of by the parents! It was the vedic mImAmsakas who killed chArvAka and all his texts.

Buddhists and Jains were exterminated by one or the other of our "three men in a boat"; whosoever was the favourite of the then ruler or king, colluded with the king under whose strict orders both buddhists and jains were simply driven out or killed by royal orders. Even then the youngest of the three, viz., Madhwa, was not the favourite of any particular Tamil king, I suppose and so the Madhwas did not have much of a role in driving out buddhists and jains. The other two were not united, as explained above.

 

[mkrishna100]

It was the vedic mImAmsakas who killed chArvAka and all his texts.

So the current killings of some rationalists and atheists in India also happened in the past ? What happened to the Charvaka Texts ? Were they destroyed or it simply died down due to lack of support .

 

[zebra16]

chArvAkas is quite an old story when these three babies had not even been thought of by the parents! It was the vedic mImAmsakas who killed chArvAka and all his texts.

You have been repeating this statement that vedic mimAsakas "killed" chArvAka". Can you please tell the source? What makes you think there was only one chArvAka? I do not get such an inference from readings.

 

[sarang]

Did they pressurise the kings to pass anti superstition law?

 

[sarang]

There was no violence against followers of any dharmic tradition to acept or reject. Con er sion by sword and pain of death started with the two Abrahamic religions and is still done.

 

[sarang]

Sources have to be invented!

You have been repeating this statement that vedic mimAsakas "killed" chArvAka". Can you please tell the source? What makes you think there was only one chArvAka? I do not get such an inference from readings.

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[Vaagmi]

Sources have to be invented!

You have been repeating this statement that vedic mimAsakas "killed" chArvAka". Can you please tell the source? What makes you think there was only one chArvAka? I do not get such an inference from readings.

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There is no evidence for the violence and killing. So it will be manufactured. Just wait.

 

[mkrishna100]

There is no evidence for the violence and killing. So it will be manufactured. Just wait.

Well then the argument will be that the people who unleashed violence also saw to it that there was no evidence left as proof of their violence . As regarding Charvakas as well as Buddhists , Jainists ) being wiped out this is what the arugment being placed by many Atheists , Rationalists or in other words their favorite quote "Brahminical Conspiracy with the then rulers "

 

[zebra16]

Well then the argument will be that the people who unleashed violence also saw to it that there was no evidence left as proof of their violence . As regarding Charvakas as well as Buddhists , Jainists ) being wiped out this is what the arugment being placed by many Atheists , Rationalists or in other words their favorite quote "Brahminical Conspiracy with the then rulers "

This argument does not stand up to scrutiny, for the simple reason that not all rationalists are sort of exterminated. In each generation rationalists take birth and also there are believers turning rationalists. Which specific rationalist's death or murder has gone uninvestigaged and buried for lack of evidence?

Sri Sangom's post implies there was one chAravakA (by the use of pronoun "his") now you are talking about chAravaKas. Were there many or just one?

 

[sangom]

So the current killings of some rationalists and atheists in India also happened in the past ? What happened to the Charvaka Texts ? Were they destroyed or it simply died down due to lack of support .

This is reply to a few posts by some of our AsthAna Asthikas (self proclaimed, of course) too.

That there was only one by name cArvAka is the opinion of some scholars. He was the disciple of one brihaspati (a.k.a. vAcaspati). There were many disciples of both brihaspati or vAcaspati and cArvAka and in later times the whole group came to be referred to as "cArvAkas". brihaspati handed over his brihaspati sootra to cArvAka but nothing of these has been traceable so far. Hence some scholars believe that the story of another cArvAka in M. Bh., Santhi Parva who was killed on the spot, by the assembled brAhmaNas in their fury, may be an oblique reference to the other cArvAka, and that he could have been similarly killed — by the brAhmaNas — and his palm leaf texts set on fire (since setting on fire was the time-honoured way of destruction used by the vedic Aryans!

We get to know a little bit of the cArvAka aphorisms from the "sarva darSana samgraham" of vidyAraNya (mAdhavAcArya), as also from references in buddhist and jain texts. Whatever may be the opinion of the 'orthodoxy-imposters', it cannot be gainsaid that the world today (including our tabras) follows the cArvAkan philosophy of —


While life is yours, live joyously;
None can escape Death's searching eye:
When once this frame of ours they burn,
How shall it e'er again return?

 

[கால பைரவன்]

Sources have to be invented!

There is no evidence for the violence and killing. So it will be manufactured. Just wait.

This is typical of nastikas - cry foul one day and indulge in empty chest thumping the next day!

The uselessness of the hindu and brahminical religion is often proclaimed here with an air of disdain because it could not withstand the assault of the abrahamic religions (christianity and Islam) and is also held responsible for the enslavement of the country first to the mughals, then to the british. However, if the same logic be applied, then the religion or philosophy of the carvakas, the nasthikas, jainism, buddhism etc are utterly useless because they fell at the hands of this very primitive hindu religion, is it not?! How useful is the carvakan philosophy if it did not help them to even save themselves?!

 

[கால பைரவன்]

Well then the argument will be that the people who unleashed violence also saw to it that there was no evidence left as proof of their violence . As regarding Charvakas as well as Buddhists , Jainists ) being wiped out this is what the arugment being placed by many Atheists , Rationalists or in other words their favorite quote "Brahminical Conspiracy with the then rulers "

What we learn from puranas is that when these atheists/rationalists gained power, they assaulted followers of vedic religion. Aren't vedists the first people to be persecuted for their religious beliefs? Didn't hiranyakasibu try to kill his own son because he chose to be a believer?

 

[sarang]

Typical 'heshyam'; the bold highlighting speaks volumes of the poster's logical mindset. Thousands of ancient works - sutras, shastras, bhashyas, a large portion of mahabharata - have been lost and we know of their existence only because manu or other bhashyakaras or kautilya quotefrom them to varying degrees. Anyway sangomji's conclusions are his own or hearsay from unverifiable sources.

That there was only one by name cArvAka is the opinion of some scholars. He was the disciple of one brihaspati (a.k.a. vAcaspati). There were many disciples of both brihaspati or vAcaspati and cArvAka and in later times the whole group came to be referred to as "cArvAkas". brihaspati handed over his brihaspati sootra to cArvAka but nothing of these has been traceable so far. Hence some scholars believe that the story of another cArvAka in M. Bh., Santhi Parva who was killed on the spot, by the assembled brAhmaNas in their fury, may be an oblique reference to the other cArvAka, and that he could have been similarly killed — by the brAhmaNas — and his palm leaf texts set on fire (since setting on fire was the time-honoured way of destruction used by the vedic Aryans!

 

[P.J.]

Coimbatore Anugraha Bhashanam

Coimbatore Anugraha Bhashanam


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ywDTCIN0eY



Published on Mar 20, 2012 Anugraha Bhashanam delivered by Jagadguru Shankaracharya Sri Sri Bharati Tirtha Mahaswamiji upon his arrival at Coimbatore on March 21, 2012 during the Dakshina Bharata Vijaya Yatra undertaken in 2012.

 

[CHANDRU1849]

What we learn from puranas is that when these atheists/rationalists gained power, they assaulted followers of vedic religion. Aren't vedists the first people to be persecuted for their religious beliefs? Didn't hiranyakasibu try to kill his own son because he chose to be a believer?

Was Hiranyakasibhu a non-believer?

 

[P.J.]

Digital version of the book, “Yoga, Enlightenment and Perfection”

Digital version of the book, “Yoga, Enlightenment and Perfection”

Saturday, October 3rd, 2015

By way of paying reverential homage to the 35th Acharya of the Dakshinamnaya Sri Sharada Peetham, Jagadguru Sri Abhinava Vidyatirtha Mahaswamiji (1917-1989), on the occasion of His Aradhana on October 4, 2015, Sri Vidyatheertha Foundation is pleased bring out and make available to all, free of cost, the digital version of the book titled, ‘Yoga, Enlightenment and Perfectionof H.H. Jagadguru Sri Abhinava Vidyatheertha Mahaswamigal’.

This book, which contains a detailed account of the Jagadguru’s spiritual practices and His realization of and steadfast establishment in the Supreme, also serves an authoritative exposition of Yoga, Bhakti and Vedanta. It was first published in the year 1999 and reprinted many times thereafter.

The present digital edition – with both PDF and EPUB versions to facilitate reading of the book in various devices – may be downloaded free of cost from the website of the Foundation at the following link: http://www.svfonline.net.


An unmatched authority on the scriptures, a peerless Yogi, a consummate Jivanmukta, an ocean of mercy and perfect preceptor, Jagadguru Sri Abhinava Vidyatirtha Mahaswamiji adorned Shankara Bhagavatpada’s Sringeri Sharada Peetham as its 35th Acharya. He was born on November 13, 1917, and was initiated into Sannyasa on May 22, 1931, by the 34[SUP]th[/SUP] Acharya, the renowned Jivanmukta, Jagadguru Sri Chandrashekhara Bharati Mahaswamiji. His Holiness intensely engaged in spiritual practices, which strictly conformed to the scripture, right from the day of His Sannyasa and these culminated in His full realization of and steadfast establishment in the Supreme Brahman on December 12, 1935.

The book Yoga Enlightenment and Perfection contains a short account of the life of the Jagadguru in the words of the reigning, 36th Acharya of Sringeri Sharada Peetham, Jagadguru Sri Bharati Tirtha Mahaswamiji.

This is followed by a short account in the words of Acharyal – which is how Jagadguru Sri Abhinava Vidyatirtha Mahaswamiji has been referred to in the book – about His Guru (Jagadguru Sri Chandrashekhara Bharati Mahaswamiji).

Then, after some relevant information about Acharyal’s pre-Sannyasa days, commences a detailed account of His practice of Hatha Yoga, devotion, Karma Yoga, Kundalini Yoga, Nada Anusandhana, contemplation on the Atman, meditation and Samadhi on divine forms, scripture-based reflection on the Truth and Savikalpa Samadhi and Nirvikalpa Samadhi (the acme of Yoga) on the Absolute; and of His thorough elimination of notions of non-Atman, His enlightenment and Jivanmukti. Citations from the scriptures and other authoritative texts as also extracts from the discourses and dialogues of the Jagadguru have been included to provide clarifications and additional information. Jagadguru Sri Bharati Tirtha Mahaswamiji has approvingly conferred on the work a benedictory foreword (Srimukha).

« Jagadguru Shankaracharyas perform Vyasa Puja and take the vow of Chaturmasya Vrata —



Source:http://www.sringeri.net/2015/10/03/...he-book-yoga-enlightenment-and-perfection.htm​

 

[P.J.]

Greatness of the jivanmukta : Taken from the book "the saint of sringeri"

GREATNESS OF THE JIVANMUKTA : TAKEN FROM THE BOOK "THE SAINT OF SRINGERI" (Courtesy : Aasish Sharma)

A gentleman who had heard of the uncommon behaviour of His Holiness Sri Chandrashekhara Bharati mahaswamiji on occasions was keenly curious to know if it was the result of any mental aberration as talked about by some people or due to any other cause. He made up his mind to ask His Holiness Himself about it. As soon as he took his seat, he was met by this surprising question of His Holiness –

"Suppose there are 10 people in a room and one of them sees a sight which the others do not and cannot see. I suppose you generally call that man mad ??"

GM: How can he see such a thing?
HH: You may answer my question on the supposition that he does.

GM: He must certainly be mad; otherwise how can he see such a sight?? It exists only in his Imagination.
HH: He is considered mad simply because of the fact that the others fail to see what he himself sees ??

GM: It is not so. He is considered mad as he sees something which does not exist.
HH: something which doesn't exist in the view of the other nine ?

GM: No, Something which doesn't exist at all.
HH: But It does exist for him.

GM: But it is only due to his madness.
HH: That is, he is considered mad because he happens to see something which 9 of his friends have decided from their own experience does not exist.

GM: certainly.
HH: That means, that his madness or otherwise is not determined with reference to his own experience but with regard to the opinion of the majority who do not have that experience.

GM: It is something like it.
HH: Suppose then that by the vote of the majority it has been decided that the thing seen by him does not, as the matter of fact, exist; can this prevent him from seeing it, at least after the moment of that decision ??

GM: How can it ? He will continue to see it as before.
HH: Then, what is the value of the vote ? It is neither based on experience of the seer nor is it effective to dispel that experience. Madness therefore seems to be only a relative conception based on the experience of those who have not had the particular experience which the so-called mad man has.

The Gentleman did not think it necessary any longer to ask His Holiness the question which he came to ask. He had been more than answered without any need for his asking.



Sage of Kanchi

Jambunathan Iyer