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Two more tests for evidence of spiritual energy

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V.Balasubramani said:
You are free to deem it as a scientific paper on spiritual energy and come out with your refutations, if any.

IMHO people with highly limited exposure and knowledge on the subject may dismiss spiritual energy as imagination, metaphor, hallucination or fantasy of the mind.

It is not அக்னி பரிட்ச்சை, but may prove something like அக்னி ஹோமம் for people with faith.

If you have no faith on the subject, you are free to skip this thread.

And if you have got any points for refutation, you are welcome.


And there is no point in dragging this thread.

Even Seethai will not forgive such acts.lol
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Well I do Have my quota of faith But donot go about making it as pure sciene or spiritual science like the psedo scientist or pseudo spiritualists ! At best I can only share those faith if some on is interested with no pretetion of science!

Who is deeming it to be a scientific paper? I am questiong that! Declare in sincerity it is only faith I will be in silent mode!
 
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Scientific truths are flawed for the following reasons:

1. They are not repeatable truths when under the influence of spiritual energy. The scientists have been selling this principle of repeatability as a major virtue of science and they have got it totally wrong
2. I do not believe that any statistical or mathematical analysis as lending credence to a truth because when something is not repeatable, these make no sense.
3. The notion of physical evidence as an absolute indicator of truth is seriously flawed. How do you know what you see or measure will not change with time? Newton's law of gravity may not hold in 1000 years or the calculations may be seriously off the mark. It is just not a question of making improvements to theories but a question of nature of things itself changing.
 
Janaki Jambunathan said:
Well I do Have my quota of faith But donot go about making it as pure sciene or spiritual science like the psedo scientist or pseudo spiritualists ! At best I can only share those faith if some on is interested with no pretetion of science!

Who is deeming it to be a scientific paper? I am questiong that! Declare in sincerity it is only faith I will be in silent mode!
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Though everyone has his/her own quota of faith, few do question about pure science and spiritual science. It is their liberty. And one need not accept whatever said or written in this Forum.

But should have a minimum courtesy to present their case where they differ from the thread opener with logic and reasoning.

Merely repeating the version that it is wrong is not suffice. Such refutation should be backed by valid points.

And if they have nothing to support their stand, it is better to quit instead of dragging the thread.

And last, but not the least, is who is bothered about whether one is in silent mode or mute mode, etc

It is always interesting to deal with members who are in agitated mood and troubled mind.


 
OK Shri.VB.let us accept it is faith. I do not see anything wrong in that. If it is the right conviction, the logic and the truth follow.
 
sravna said:
Scientific truths are flawed for the following reasons:

1. They are not repeatable truths when under the influence of spiritual energy. The scientists have been selling this principle of repeatability as a major virtue of science and they have got it totally wrong
2. I do not believe that any statistical or mathematical analysis as lending credence to a truth because when something is not repeatable, these make no sense.
3. The notion of physical evidence as an absolute indicator of truth is seriously flawed. How do you know what you see or measure will not change with time? Newton's law of gravity may not hold in 1000 years or the calculations may be seriously off the mark. It is just not a question of making improvements to theories but a question of nature of things itself changing.
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Newton sold his scientific law of gravitation about 300 years ago! But spiritual energy laws are in existance for several yugs! You say it (Newton) may may not hold in 1000 years ! Was it holding for the earlier past 1000 years? What was happening to the apples on the tree prior to Newton - Were they not falling?or flew up under the laws of spiritual energy?
 
Janaki Jambunathan said:
Newton sold his scientific law of gravitation about 300 years ago! But spiritual energy laws are in existance for several yugs! You say it (Newton) may may not hold in 1000 years ! Was it holding for the earlier past 1000 years? What was happening to the apples on the tree prior to Newton - Were they not falling?or flew up under the laws of spiritual energy?
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The point is the universe evolves and everything in it evolves and so the spiritual laws become patent and predominant after a certain point.
 
I am furnishing the actual temp for various cities this summer i.e, march, april, may, june and the average deviation from historical averages this summer. I have given the historical averages for the months in brackets. Data for june is forecast temp.

Source: Accuweather

Chennai- 34(34), 37(36), 37(38), 36(37), -0.25
Bangalore- 35(33), 37(34), 33(33), 28(29), +1

I will furnish details about other cities in India and in other parts of the world for this period.

I am not making any conclusions now.
 
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Hyderabad- 38(36), 41(38), 37(39), 36(35), +1
Trivandrum- 34(33), 35(33), 32(32), 30(30), +0.75
 
helsinki- 2(0), 5(6), 15(14), 19(19), +0.5
toronto -8(5), 10(11), 20(18), 22(23), +0.75
hongkong - 20(19), 26(23), 29(28), 31(29) , +1.75
 
Singapore - 34(31), 34(31), 33(32), 31(31), +1.75
Rio de janeiro- 31(28),31(27), 26(25), 25(25), +2
 
Johanessburg - 26(24), 24(22),19(19), 18(17), +1.25
Wellington -21(19),19(17),17(15), 13(13), +1.5
 
Folks,

Here's the consolidated data for cities all over the world. The data starts with the northern most part and ends with the southern most part.


helsinki- 2(0), 5(6), 15(14), 19(19), +0.5
toronto -8(5), 10(11), 20(18), 22(23), +0.75
Kolkata-34(33), 39(35),37(35), 33(33), +1.75
hongkong - 20(19), 26(23), 29(28), 31(29) , +1.75
Mumbai-34(30),34(31),34(32),32(31), +2.5


Hyderabad- 38(36), 41(38), 37(39), 36(35), +1
Bangalore- 35(33), 37(34), 33(33), 28(29), +1
Chennai- 34(34), 37(36), 37(38), 36(37), -0.25
Trivandrum- 34(33), 35(33), 32(32), 30(30), +0.75


Singapore - 34(31), 34(31), 33(32), 31(31), +1.75
Rio de janeiro- 31(28),31(27), 26(25), 25(25), +2
Johanessburg - 26(24), 24(22),19(19), 18(17), +1.25
Wellington -21(19),19(17),17(15), 13(13), +1.5
 
June is over. The average temperature in June in chennai this year is below 35 c which is more than 2c below the historical average.

Summary this summer:

March - 34(33)
April - 37(36)
May - 37(38)
June - 35(37)

The number given first is the average temp for that month this year and the number within parenthesis is the historical average for that month.

I will make my observations later.
 
Here's a proof why the temperature decline is due to spiritual energy:

There is a website keametsite.com which shows live temperature everyday. It also shows the prediction for temperature rise/hour at any instant. When the rise/hour is in the increasing mode, I can by application of spiritual energy halt that rise and reverse it. I have done it a number of times and it works every time I do it.

So this is something that can be scientifically verified. What do you think folks?
 
India's CO2 emissions over the years can be interactively seen here:
http://www.globalcarbonatlas.org/?q=en/emissions
India being the most spiritually endowed nation can use it all its spiritual energy to reduce global warming and melting of the ice caps. Save your beautiful Marina beach from disappearing into the water like the Mahabalipuram temple at the beach there.
 
Dear Sri. Sravna,
On the subject of spiritual energy. It is generally agreed that we are all miniscule "Atmans" of the same "Paramatman" or Supreme Spiritual energy. Each one of us is the mortal embodiment of this Spiritual energy. Much like radioactivity we all exude this spirtual radiation and thus influence the development of this world in our own miniscule extent. Some radiations are good and some are bad. Yes we all contribute to global warming/cooling, influence the stock markets or whatever else happens in this world. Your point is how can we all collectively make a positive improvement to the environment. I think that is a noble thought well worthy of consideration and adoption by all, especially "TB's" who apparently have the maximum such "Spiritual Energy" according to many of our "TB" forum members!
 
The temperature increase of Chennai is directly proportional to number of concrete buildings that have been built in the growing Metropolis. If only you could build "Adobe" or "Mud" Houses or even wood houses then that is more natural and may not contribute to as much temperature rise. Concrete exudes thermal energy during its setting process. It also absorbs heat from the sun during the day and radiates heat at night. No amount of spiritual energy can compensate for that folly of mankind! Go back to the village style mud houses with thatched roofs without just making a showpiece museum like Dakshin Chitra along the new ECR towards Mahabalipuram! There is my 2 paise worth Science and Spirituality.
 
Dear Shri Raysundar,

Thanks for your thoughts. Some of my initiatives are experimental though intuitively I can likely sense what would be the result. Let us wait and see what happens.
 
The spiritual energy seems to have caused irrevocable damagee to eco system NGT report says the damage done by Spiritual Guru Sri Sri to Yamuna is huge and not easy to quantify - in response Sri Sri says the report is not based on science and over estimated - wants another Panel to do that all over again - is his defence and explanation! - Looks S .E. is the cause and not cure for degradation of Eco systems! Damage spiritually - correct scientifically is his Mantra
 
Janaki Jambunathan said:
The spiritual energy seems to have caused irrevocable damagee to eco system NGT report says the damage done by Spiritual Guru Sri Sri to Yamuna is huge and not easy to quantify - in response Sri Sri says the report is not based on science and over estimated - wants another Panel to do that all over again - is his defence and explanation! - Looks S .E. is the cause and not cure for degradation of Eco systems! Damage spiritually - correct scientifically is his Mantra
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"Beware of False Prophets" says the Bible.
For Hindus "Beware of Fake Gurus"
Adishankara, Madhavacharya, Ramanujacharya come to mind as established Gurus whose authenticity has been verified by the Spiritual Outcomes of these sages.
If I have missed any other such Gurus, please add to the above list and forgive my ignorance.
 
Ever Silver is never silver! Metaphysics is not Physics Spiritual energy is not scientific energy! In all these situations the later is is established with litmus test!

Beware of Gurus - is practical than beware of fake Gurus! since the fake gurus cannot be identified by any acid test ! The proof of pudding is eating - you know them as fake only after being taken for a ride! The spiritual experiance is personel belief and not universal truth all these proof put forward is an attempt to give scientific சாயம் ! கல்யாணி கவரிங் is not சாெக்க தங்கம் - may be more lustorus !
 
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