US Shutdown!

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dear Sir,
In India men seems to fall for women well endowed and well rounded!
One man put it in a raw form when he said that he liked women with beef!
I thought that out there many women seek the help of silicone filling
to looker well rounded - like the statues seen in the Indian temples!!
One zero sized model fell head over heels (no in love)
but on the stage during the cat walk-
due to the now displaced center of gravity,
a dress with a long train and a 12" high heels.
I am trying to visualize the scene - without much success!

The US Shutdown is in part dispute over so called Affordable Care for all (Health Insurance).
Doctors need to deal with many insurance companies and how they pay.

One field which is very difficult to get into but allows Doctors to mint money is in performing Plastic surgery. Many times there are no insurance companies involved.

So long human beings are insecure and there are women with low self esteem there is a big business doing routine surgery enhancing size of breasts etc.

In India though the fan seem to love big hips too before they fork the money to build a temple
I cant imagine an American woman going to a Plastic Doctor to increase the size of her hips and thighs !

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

Dear Sir,
If I can put it in a nut shell...
the women abroad want to be top-heavy or pencil-thin.
The women in India wish to be bottom-heavy or all-rounders!

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

Body is just a living case to hold in the human soul.

I don't know why so much importance is given to its appearance.

Being one's natural self is the most beautiful thing.

Anybody wants proof?

just look at any marrigae video or photo albums.

The best looking person will be the priest/ pundit

-devoid of any make up or any complexes! hoto:

Swami Dayanand Saraswati used to say

"If there is a cow with two horns - one vertical and one horizontal ,it won't fetch a good prize.

The cow does not have any complexes regarding the directions of it horns but its OWNER does."

Well that explains a lot about the working of the human mind!

 

[Visalakshi Ramani]

The US Shutdown is in part dispute over so called Affordable Care for all (Health Insurance).
Doctors need to deal with many insurance companies and how they pay.

One field which is very difficult to get into but allows Doctors to mint money is in performing Plastic surgery. Many times there are no insurance companies involved.

So long human beings are insecure and there are women with low self esteem there is a big business doing routine surgery enhancing size of breasts etc.

In India though the fan seem to love big hips too before they fork the money to build a temple
I cant imagine an American woman going to a Plastic Doctor to increase the size of her hips and thighs !

Only the filthy-wealthy opt for plastic surgery for cosmetic purposes.

I am sure they can very well afford the cost - insurance or no insurance.

 

[Raji Ram]

How about this joke which appeared in T O I, today?
M M Singh went to the U S and the effect is U S shutdown!! :faint:

 

[tks]

By the way only 17% of the US Government (though large) is shut down while 83% is still operating

Where's sense of crisis in a 17% government shutdown? | WashingtonExaminer.com

 

[vgane]

Understand that in case the slow down continues even IT companies may get impacted, if their Visas are not processed timely

Also the debt ceiling has to be increased in next 2 weeks..Otherwise US may go into recession!

 

[Nara]

By the way only 17% of the US Government (though large) is shut down while 83% is still operating

Where's sense of crisis in a 17% government shutdown? | WashingtonExaminer.com

Even if this 83% figure is accurate, which is to be checked as the source is ultra-conservative, all it says is that the government expenditure will continue at 83% rate, not that 83% of the government is still operating. Don't get misled by political hacks ....

 

[Anand Manohar]

Prof Nara

It seems Dr Manmohan Singh came all the way to see a "CLOSED" sign on Obama's door !

He was used to "OPEN" offices in Delhi, where nothing works. But all was not lost - he spent a whole evening
with Nawaz Sharif, discussing Kargil, Kashmir and 'Confidence Building Measures' !

And they all lived ever after !

Yay Yem

 

[tks]

Even if this 83% figure is accurate, which is to be checked as the source is ultra-conservative, all it says is that the government expenditure will continue at 83% rate, not that 83% of the government is still operating. Don't get misled by political hacks ....

Yes, It is a conservative publication and even if they are off by few percentages the US Government spending is still at a high level (and hence public at large does not feel the impact as much). If the debt ceiling is not raised by Mid October there will be much more impact to the public indirectly due to cascading set of events...

 

[kunjuppu]

what beats me, is that, no one, not even the republicans, are telling the people, that the government, like the households, should live within their means.

what happened to:
வரவு எட்டணா செலவு பத்தணா
அதிகம் ரெண்டணா
கடைசியில் குந்தனா குந்தனா!!

is there no incentive for any government to spend a penny less than what is earned? should every government borrow and typically spend 1/3 to 1/2 the income on interest payments..and pass on the debt to the next generation? is this the reality? or am i missing something here?

we householders have debts, but those are often a mortgage for a house, or a car loan or educational loan. all finite and to be re paid within a certain timeframe. should or should not the governments be run on the same morals? or is it economically a disaster if govts do not run deficits, print money, encourage inflation, and overall give people a 'good' feeling while constantly debasing the value of the earnings?

who knows? i dont.

 

[Nara]

....we householders have debts, but those are often a mortgage for a house, or a car loan or educational loan. all finite and to be re paid within a certain timeframe. should or should not the governments be run on the same morals? .

no it should not, households and governments are not the same. Take a look at this and many more from him.

The fact is, the US budget deficit is dwindling, it is half what it was 4 years ago. Here is another Krugman piece http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/11/opinion/krugman-dwindling-deficit-disorder.html. From this article, "“The boom, not the slump, is the time for austerity,” John Maynard Keynes declared many years ago."

But all this is irrelevant to present shutdown, budget squabble is not the reason for the current shutdown, it is the Republican obsession with repeal of Obamacare. Now they realize they can't do anything to Obamacare. So now they don't want to look stupid, they want something to show for their craziness, and according to one them, they don't even know what that is.

 

[biswa]

what beats me, is that, no one, not even the republicans, are telling the people, that the government, like the households, should live within their means.
who knows? i dont.

Sorry Mr. K, this goes against modern economic theory. We were consistently taught that a deficit budget was better than a surplus budget, because a government should not be in the business of "making money".

Also government debt is not the same as individual debt, where the creditor may come calling. In many cases like India and Japan, govt debt is held by the citizens themselves, so there is no fear of the hedgies dumping it and causing a run on the central bank.

 

[Nara]

Yes, It is a conservative publication and even if they are off by few percentages the US Government spending is still at a high level (and hence public at large does not feel the impact as much). ...

Well what is high level is a POV. Ask Grover Norquist of Americans for Tax Reform and he is likely to say even a single dollar beyond DOD is too high a level.

The current impasse is about what is called Continuing Resolution (CR) to fund the government under spending level known as "sequester" until November 15th. The hope is, if the CR is passed, government can go on functioning and by November 15th Congress will hammer out a longer term budget deal. The "sequester" level of funding is already so onerous that millions of poor Americans are locked out of many basic services. Now, with this stupid government shut down, the pain is further compounded. Of course, it only affects the poor and close to a million Federal employees right now. The "public at large" may not care, they are unaffected. They will care only if it affects them personally, so much empathy they have.

But, if the shut down extends beyond a couple weeks, which seems very likely, the "public at large" will feel the impact, and they will care.

All this fight is over funding the government at the draconian levels known as sequester for measly 6 weeks. This is the kind of dysfunctional political system we have in the U.S. of A.

 

[கால பைரவன்]

Ref post # 36. You make a good point. American politics, on many issues, is similar to Indian politics - there is no ideological conviction, only opportunism.

Below were the views of a senator in 2006, when voting on increasing debt ceiling came to the senate. No prizes for guessing who the senator is!

Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that ‘‘the buck stops here.’’ Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better. I therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase America’s debt limit.

 

[tbs]

hi
this is modern capital market theory....even govt closed down....US postal service goes on as usual....flight services goes on.....

amtrack train services are going on as usual.....banking services going on as usual...hospitals are working as usual...so no common man really .

affected becoz all these services are private and corporate oriented.....if the same thing happen in india....post offices closed....

trains are stopped.....air india stopped......banks are closed.......hospitals are closed....then the common man will suffer....SO REALLY


USA IS GREATEST NATION ON EARTH....NO DOUBT.....

 

[Raji Ram]

Dear TBS Sir,

What you have written is true. Yesterday news showed at least six 'road rOkO' scenes. Whatever be the problem, public block

the roads without thinking of the emergency a few fellow humans will have at that hour. The essential services will be OK in the

U S of A. But do you have any idea what impact this situation will have on NASA scientists?

P.S: Our family has a young couple working in NASA.

 

[tbs]

Dear TBS Sir,

What you have written is true. Yesterday news showed at least six 'road rOkO' scenes. Whatever be the problem, public block

the roads without thinking of the emergency a few fellow humans will have at that hour. The essential services will be OK in the

U S of A. But do you have any idea what impact this situation will have on NASA scientists?

P.S: Our family has a young couple working in NASA.

hi madam,
so far NASA....essential system/space station are normal....some civilian employees have problem....a very tiny part now....

may be bigger problem in NASA/ CDC/NIH.LATER.....so far so good...

 

[vgane]

Hope this intervention of Democrats saves the day!

As US default looms, Democrats plan move to raise debt ceiling - The Hindu

 

[Vaagmi]

hi
this is modern capital market theory....even govt closed down....US postal service goes on as usual....flight services goes on.....

amtrack train services are going on as usual.....banking services going on as usual...hospitals are working as usual...so no common man really .

affected becoz all these services are private and corporate oriented.....if the same thing happen in india....post offices closed....

trains are stopped.....air india stopped......banks are closed.......hospitals are closed....then the common man will suffer....SO REALLY


USA IS GREATEST NATION ON EARTH....NO DOUBT.....

Dear tbs,

You have not understood correctly.

In India Air India will not stop because it is corporate. The iNDIAN gOVERNMENT may the largest share holder. But the planes will continue to fly as long as there is not immediate need for additional shares subscription or capital infusion.

Similarly banks will not be closed because banks are corporates. Government is only a share holder.

 

[Nara]

hi madam,
so far NASA....essential system/space station are normal....some civilian employees have problem....a very tiny part now....

may be bigger problem in NASA/ CDC/NIH.LATER.....so far so good...

Where did you get this tbs? Even their web site is down now due to the shutdown, try accessing USA.gov: The U.S. Government's Official Web Portal.

Also take a look at this NPR report: The Government Shutdown's Final Frontier: How NASA Is Dealing : NPR

Couple of quotations from this report:

Most of the government's nonessential services have ground to a halt, and among the hardest hit agencies is NASA.​

​

A skeleton crew remains at Mission Control in Houston, talking to the astronauts and trying to keep them occupied.​

 

[Nara]

....Below were the views of a senator in 2006, when voting on increasing debt ceiling came to the senate. No prizes for guessing who the senator is!

KB, I don't know whether you are simply parroting this Republican talking point or you are citing this even though you know this was just political posturing and that Obama was not trying to shut down the government on the debt ceiling vote like the Republicans are doing now.

In any case, unlike the CR which affects mostly the poor now, a debt default will affect everyone, and the pain will increase as you ascend the economic ladder. In other words the middle class and the rich will feel the pain much more than the poor. It is one thing to cause pain to "others" who cares, but debt default, no that would be painful to them.

 

[tbs]

Dear tbs,

You have not understood correctly.

In India Air India will not stop because it is corporate. The iNDIAN gOVERNMENT may the largest share holder. But the planes will continue to fly as long as there is not immediate need for additional shares subscription or capital infusion.

Similarly banks will not be closed because banks are corporates. Government is only a share holder.

hi
i can understand ur view point....but if govt withdraws its share in air india/nationalised banks.....both will become bankruptsy

within weeks...even though so called corparates...both are wholly owned by govt....both have to wind up with out govt support...


but not in the case in USA.....all are private entity and run by purely private without govt funding....even MODERN BREAD is

govt company...in india bread and milks are produced by govt departments....just info

 

[Nara]

....but not in the case in USA.....all are private entity and run by purely private without govt funding....

Surely you must be joking tbs!! Don't you remember the 2007 bank meltdown? These private banks ran the entire US economy and the world economy to ground and Uncle Sam had to bail them out with trillions of dollars of bail out money. The feds minted more and more trillions out of thin air in what they called quantitative easing and just handed them over to these banks at virtually zero interest. And these bankers just turned around and gave themselves billions of dollars worth of bonuses. So much for free enterprise capitalism, an oxymoron.

 

[கால பைரவன்]

Nara, My post was made in reference to post # 36, regarding austerity and debt control - the point is that the main political parties have not been consistent in their stand on this issue. It appears in 2006 (perhaps you can verify this) when the debt ceiling was increased, 48 members in the senate (all of them democrats) voted against it.

Of course, for people who are sold on to propaganda of one party or the other, the most common excuse that comes in handy is "That is different; this is different!"