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What does the carnage in Public Sector Bank stocks mean?

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What does the carnage in Public Sector Bank stocks mean?


http://www.moneylife.in/article/what-does-the-carnage-in-public-sector-bank-stocks-mean/45177.html


The market thinks PSBs are in a big soup and nobody is in charge


When the new government took over the Centre's reign in May 2014, the benchmark Nifty PSU Bankex was at 3,869. From that point, the index rose to around 4,300 in January 2015, when the government announced with great fanfare the Gyan Sangam, a conclave with banking heads to chart out a glorious future for public sector banks (PSBs). However, despite all the discussions done in the Gyan Sangam and also subsequent steps taken by the government in the form of Indradhanush, a 7-point program to revive PSBs, the Nifty PSU Bankex has crashed 46% to 2,318, from the January 2015 level. This is in sharp contrast to Nifty Private Banking Index, which rose by around 14% during the same period.

The fall has been across the board, signifying some deep-seated problem with all public sector banks. State Bank of India (SBI) lost a little more than 27% during since the past year, eroding Rs62,000 crore of market capitalisation. Others like Bank of India (BoI) and Oriental Bank of Commerce (OBC) have crashed more than 50% during the past year. The market is delivering a simple and clear message through this fall – there are huge problems with PSU Banks and nobody is in charge. The problem is simple: widespread poor lending practices, laden with corruption and influence peddling that have led to huge bad loans.

Technically, the Reserve Bank of India (RBI) is supposed to be in charge. It is the banking regulator and in that role, it has enormous powers of inspection over banks. RBI asks banks to file numerous monthly and quarterly reports and also has a director in every major PSB. And yet, RBI pretends that it has no real supervisory role the burgeoning bad loans.

On paper, the RBI has done a lot of tinkering with the PSBs. It has a program called corporate debt restructuring (CDR), has also introduced strategic debt restructuring (SDR) and launched what is called the 5:25 structure to impart ultimate relief to banks from provisioning. None of these three has been able to generate results in the way they were intended to.

Loans, including those of powerful and mighty borrowers, continue to be restructured with impunity through multiple CDR schemes and under RBI’s 5:25 scheme (five-year moratorium on payments and a 25-year loan tenure), which has even been described as ‘The Great Indian Banking Ponzi Scheme’!

Reserve Bank's SDR Scheme of June 2015 provides step-in rights to lenders to achieve majority holding through conversion of debt and unpaid interest into equity - in case a restructured account fails to meet the financial and other critical targets. However, it permits banks to invoke SDR without treating the accounts as restructured! In addition, it does not stipulate pledge of shares first, which can protect the interests of the lenders.

RBI introduced ‘Flexible Structuring of Long Term Project Loans to Infrastructure and Core Industries’ (popularly called the 5:25 structure) in July 2014. The structure permits banks to adopt original amortisation schedule (OAS) for repayment of loans for a period of about 25 years, i.e., up to 80% of the economic life to projects in infrastructure and core sectors and industries. The 5:25 structure is appropriate for projects with steady and predictable cash flow, which can be controlled by lenders through ‘cash trap accounts’. If we go by this criterion, barring a handful of projects, no other borrower from the long list of eligible sectors or projects seems appropriate for 5:25 structure. However, it is quite strange that Reliance Gas Transportation Infrastructure Ltd (RGTIL), controlled by one of the richest men in the world, Mukesh Ambani, managed to get a loan-restructuring package.

The intention of CDR mechanism was to provide timely support to genuine cases through restructuring. However, as a Moneylife cover story in November 2015 showed, the CDR has failed miserably. The success rate of cumulative CDR debt of over Rs4 lakh crore up to FY14-15 was low at around 15% (by value); failed projects accounted for 14% of the debt and the remaining 71% debt was locked in live CDR accounts. The situation was grim as CDR advances were concentrated in a few PSBs; 10 banks accounted for 59% of CDR exposure. For one particular bank, the stressed assets accounted for 100% of its net worth.

Many CDR accounts may turn into non-performing assets (NPAs), which will further stress PSBs. Banks have adopted CDR only to postpone provisioning, given the liberal provisioning norms for CDR. Another issue highlighted was with respect to working capital advances. One of the issues is that stocks are stocks are certified by auditors without any domain expertise and no one is held accountable for subsequent major impairment of these stocks. Moneylife's cover story highlighted that the impact of 5 -25 and other structures is that they have all the trappings of delaying and enhancing, but not extinguishing the NPAs.

With reference to PSB's, RBI governor, Raghuram Rajan, had remarked in 2014, "We have to ensure that these banks have the capacity to compete and many of them recognise what needs to be done and have started on the path, but we should support them.” This cheery view of the PSBs is in grim contrast to the reality of unaccountable bankers and deep seated corruption, allowing lenders to get away repeatedly.

In August 2015, government rolled out a seven-pronged plan called ‘Indradhanush' aimed at improving the performance of PSBs. These include better senior appointments, setting up a Bank Boards Bureau, pumping in more capital, reducing bad loans, empowering the management, improving accountability and better governance. However, the government is clueless on the last four problems: bad loans, management empowerment, improvement accountability and better governance.

All it needed to do was follow the excellent recommendations of the PJ Nayak Committee (Committee to Review Governance of Boards of Banks in India) submitted its report to the RBI in May 2014. However, the government has not picked up much from the report. The report stated, “Governance difficulties in public sector banks arise from several externally imposed constraints. These include dual regulation, by the Finance Ministry in addition to RBI; board constitution; significant and widening compensation differences with private sector banks; external vigilance enforcement though the CVC and CBI…." Because of this dual regulation, neither the Finance Ministry nor the RBI is accountable for the malaise in PSB's. Indradhanush does not offer any solution to this core problem. Given the free-fall in the stocks of PSB's, the markets have given a message that Indradhanush is a damp squib.
From time to time, the RBI governor thunders against defaulting companies and their promoters. Ironically, he sounds like an advisor not the banking regulator.

All the talk of the governor, the Gyan Sangam of 2015 January and Indradhanush scheme have had little impact on the functioning of the PSBs and the markets have shown their disgust. Indeed, some believe that this failure to fix the bad loan problem and bringing in accountability of banks is one of the biggest reasons behind the flagging economy.
 
When economy goes down due to many reasons, why blame banks alone?

It was said that non privatisation of Public sector banks during YV reddys tenure as RBI governor saved india from downfall during the last financial crisis.

Govt tries to copy western models ignoring ground realities of indian business.

If Govt stops fiddling with banks for implementing its ill conceived reform programs , PSU banks will do well.
 
Ignorants blame Banks; but real cause is the Govt. policies.

40% of the total loans is mandatory to priority sector by 2019-2020 ( 18% to agriculture, 7.5% to Micro Enterprises, 10% to weaker sections are mandatory; balance to export credit, SME,Education,Housing to weaker sections,social infrastructure,renewable energy etc.).For 2016-2017 target is 34% progressively it will reach 40%.by 2019-20.

Only for this purpose, banks are nationalised on the concept of social and mass banking.

How many loans in this area would come under the category of stressed assets (including NPAs)of the banks..... is beyond the imagination of any ordinary prudent man; left to God to decide.

In case of write offs of NPAs, upto 75% of the loan balance, banks could get as insurance cover after a prolonged time from DICGC (DEPOSIT INSURANCE AND CREDIT GUARANTEE CORPORATION) and the balance 25% bank have to bear from their profits.

Besides all this, 1 to 4 % of the total bigger C&I (Companies and Institutions) loans are in the category of wilful defaulters with the support of "Uncle" or "Aunty" whoever is in power!!

Without knowing the all intricacies, if a person trades in Bank Shares based on tit-bit news, he should sail with the stream and come out as an early bird to book the profit.

In long term holdings also, the investor should be prudent to buy when the stock is at rock bottom,stay and hay while the sun shines.
 
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PSU bank senior officers are under pressure to recover bad loans to private parties.

Poor fellows , some are having sleepless nights chasing private fellows who have no intention of returning money.

I know many branch managers who are under pressure chasing bad loans.

Some are counting their days to retirement or transfer to other places.

The salaries are not revised and many think they are badly under paid,

Working conditions are indeed poor for PSU bank employees.
 
Some of the banks such as HDFC , icici,axis may do well in share market. Add to it IDBI. The banking model of these are slightly different from PSU banks. They might

perform better.Conventional ones will get recapitalised. They have to wait for sometime only for that. It will be merry times again.

No govt bank gets closed. Weaker ones will get absorbed by others in the name of consolidation or basel norms.

Wait for salary revisions , collect salary arrears and opt for VRS and better pastures elsewhere.
 
1. Though it may appear that the amount lent to the so called priority sector is all just freebies to be ultimately written off, it is not true. There are a good number of small units which do well and graduate to become large corporates later. There are certain domains in which a SSI unit can only thrive. any one who has visited Tirupur or Coimbatore will vouch for this truth. More over when a small unit fails it is only a comparative smaller amount involved. Even if the failure rate is taken to be 10 percent of all SSI units in a year, it still is a flea bite. When a large corporate like Kingfisher fails the amount is so large that it can wipe out the entire capital+free reserves of a small bank. And that difference is a very important difference. Simply put the failure of an SSI unit can be taken in its stride by a bank whereas the failure of a large corporate will have a severe effect on its health. The two-Small scale domain and the Corporate domain- are just not comparable but are needed for bank's profitability and survival and spreading of risk. And priority sector advances serve a very useful purpose in that they are advances to a segment which would otherwise have been ignored by banks and would have become dependent on usurious money lenders. If corporates give employment to a large work force in its factories, SSIs give employment to large number of people who work from their home or work in small factories near their homes. There is a social benefit from this.

2. Earlier too-till the 1990s-banks used to incur losses due to bad advances and used to quitely write off such advances after recovering as much as possible by selling securities and enforcing guarantees. But this was all done quietly from the reserves built up over years which included secret reserves.

3. In the 1990s something happened. The Basle norms accepted by European banks were implemented in India. The Basle norms have a background. Basle is the name of a city in Europe where in a meeting the banks came to a common understanding by which to determine the reserves that are required for each bank depending on their assets portfolio. The european banks were cut up with Japanese banks at that time who were accepting very large commitments in Europe in competition with the leading European and American banks. To get an idea of what is a "large commitment" the examples can be something like opening of a Letter of credit for purchase of a large luxury liner ship, the buying and selling of commodities like shiploads of crude and petroleum products, large purchases of military aircrafts and spares and weapons etc., Japanese banks with a very small capital base but with a good name in the market were able to get a good chunk of this lucrative business. The european banks were dismayed that there was no way they could explain to customers that the banks basically lacked the capacity to meet the liabilities in case of a default. Hence the Basle norms.

4. The norms when implemented by banks all over the world removed the secret reserves from the balance sheets of banks. These reserves were usually camouflaged in the other assets and liabilities in the balance sheets of the banks and in the interbranch transactions. So after basle it was all transparent. And the capital adequacy became the Taraka Mantra for Bankers in India too.

5. The Indian ingenuity found ways to classify bad assets into good assets to beat the capital adequacy requirements. The method adopted was to do some tinkering with the definitions and convert the bad assets into good assets just for the balance sheet purpose. Thus a bad advance became good if a reconstruction of the assets is done. Reconstruction involves just getting the bank's consent to keep aside accumulated bad debts aside with a mutually accepted repayment schedule and start booking interest/ read profit on the residual good asset part of the loan. This worked well for some time untill all the cockroaches swept under the mat came out and twitched their mush and laughed at you.

6. And we have this so called "carnage" in the stock market. It is not a carnage because in India the Govt. banks are special creatures and they can never fail. it is just a question of time before Government pumps in money as capital to improve the capital adequacy of banks versus their bad debts. And again you will find the bank stocks going up and up. those who have the holding capacity and do not have other avenues to invest with a positive differential for the opportun ity cost of funds,will hold and gain in course of time. it is just a temporary down period. I am not selling any of my bank stocks in a hurry. I know the interest costs of holding will be compensated in time. LOL.
 
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Vaagmiji

If you have holding power buy a lot more of PSU banks which are going down further.

some may be trading far below book value

Everything depends on risk appetite .

I normally throw such shares I have bought in a different basket to look at after a few years.

One never loses in the long run .

thee PSU banks will be safer with retail , housing loans and lending to SSI units instead of big corporates.

The politicians are the usual culprits pushing banks to lend to them.

Banks live longer than parties in power. So no fears
 
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