Whither Indian Culture?

[renuka]

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Dear Renu,

Indians are taught to do a namaskaram to elders and NOT to sit cross legged, in front of them.

The upadhEsam is: 'periyavA munnAla kAl mEla kAl pOttu ukkArAdhE!' :nono:

I know..I usually do not actually sit opposite elders..I sit beside them.

But in this case its a movie star and PM.
i dont think Modi is complaining.

Its a different scenario.

As far as I know Ivanka Trump daughter of President Trump wore a skirt when seated next to King Salman..but I dont think she crossed her legs.

Anyway all Arab males were drooling for her and many wanted to marry her even though her husband accompanied her.
She has 2 small kids too.

 

[renuka]

Styles of wearing a saree: No comments! :tape2:

Both look nice.

1st pic are elderly women...an elderly beauty looks nice when flaws are covered.

2nd pic is a young woman..a young beauty shines when assets are flaunted.

Btw RR ji..I have a blouse just like this! LOL

My father in law says I look nice in anything I wear but my father gets angry when I wear such blouses.

 

[renuka]

when I started this thread I had mentioned only the top dress of women.

that is only a tip of the ice berg.

in metro cities, especially bangalore, bombay, delhi, calcutta etc especially in IT companies:

smoking is common among women. scenes of women smoking on streets can commonly be found.

drinking is common among women.

dating is common among women.

live-in relationships is common.

inter-caste, inter-religious marriage is common.

indian culture has merged with US culture.

indian culture has eroded, degenerated and decayed.

where are those modesty, humility, timidity, shame-facedness and other traits of typical indian women of yester-centuries!!!!

pride, arrogance and conceit prevail and are rampant among indian women in their mid-twenties of now.

Women are living in with men..dating men too..so why only blame women?

Btw humility is just fine..all.these shy faced..timidity is not really indian.

Indian women are brave enough to fight with anyone.

In Mahabharat or Ramayan..all women were brave..Kaikeyi taught Rama art of warfare.

Seeta told Rama she rather die than being subjected to another fire ordeal.

Draupadi was brave enough to handle anything.

Please..do not degrade us women to be brain dead weaklings.

Surely we enjoy being delicate and wanting a Bahubali to save us from torments but when strength is required we can become strong.

Remember..if a woman can withstand labour pains she is brave enough for anything.
The pain of childbirth cant be understood by a male..the closests is a kick in the groin!

So please let a women be what she pleases to be.

Its the male who is totally weak that he feels his ego waning when he sees a capable women.

Be steady in your mind..a wavering mind can never appreciate strength.

 

[Raji Ram]

........ Btw RR ji..I have a blouse just like this! LOL

My father in law says I look nice in anything I wear but my father gets angry when I wear such blouses.

Dear Renu,

Father in law will say ONLY like that because he has given his son to you!

 

[Vaagmi]

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humility is just fine..all.these shy faced..timidity is not really indian.

Indian women are brave enough to fight with anyone.

Surely we enjoy being delicate and wanting a Bahubali to save us from torments but when strength is required we can become strong.

Remember..if a woman can withstand labour pains she is brave enough for anything.
The pain of childbirth cant be understood by a male..the closests is a kick in the groin!

So please let a women be what she pleases to be...................

I have in my home one such brave, strong, very matured and yet delicate gem of a woman, wanting the Bahubali in me to take care of her. I fell in love with her and married her. She acts dumb whenever it is advantageous to her. I was born William Shakespeare in my previous birth and I had her in my mind when I wrote "age cannot wither her, nor custom stale her infinite variety". LOL.

 

[renuka]

I was born William Shakespeare in my previous birth and I had her in my mind when I wrote "age cannot wither her, nor custom stale her infinite variety". LOL.

When the Spear shakes...Poetry Emits!

 

[prasad1]

Styles of wearing a saree: No comments! :tape2:

Who would your grandson view as a potential mate?
Who would your grandson view as a grandmother?
It is the perspective that matter.
If your mind is in gutter even an innocent act will seem to be vulgar.
For a serial rapist, both may seem as a sex toy.

 

[Raji Ram]

Dear Prasad Sir,

I am not talking about finding a grandma mate for one youngster! ( I don't have a grandson)

The contrast between how sarees were worn decades back and today is what I wanted to show.

But, only ultra modern females wear sarees in the style shown in the second picture. (Like Renu!)

BTW, by God's grace ( ray: ) my daughter in law does NOT wear showy dresses and we are happy! :dance:

 

[prasad1]

Sorry Rajiji, You took my post#157 literally.
"your Grandson" was only a metaphor.
A child at age 1 may find the 1st picture attractive as it reminds him of grandmother, but the same child as a hormone raging teenager would swoon at the second picture.


I understand your intention, but that may not be what others see.

 

[prasad1]

But, only ultra modern females wear sarees in the style shown in the second picture. (Like Renu!)

BTW, by God's grace ( ray: ) my daughter in law does NOT wear showy dresses and we are happy! :dance:

Let me analyze your two statements above.

You would not happy to see Renukaji, with or without God's grace.:roll:

You would be unhappy to see your DIL is a beach in a swimsuit.:suspicious::noidea:ound:

 

[renuka]

Ha ha ha..
I sometimes also wear an Abhaya and cover my head with a Dupatta..it also depends on the occassion.

Saree is a unique garment..it can look stunning and also look boring.

It all depends how we wear it.

 

[renuka]

Let me analyze your two statements above.

You would not happy to see Renukaji, with or without God's grace.:roll:

You would be unhappy to see your DIL is a beach in a swimsuit.:suspicious::noidea:ound:

Dear Prasad ji.

RR ji totally sounds like my mum!
My mum cant stand my saree choices.

At the same time she cant stand me totally covering up myself with Abhaya and covering my head with Dupatta occasionally.

She wonders why I choose to dress totally opposites at times..by God's grace she can never understand me!!!LOL

 

[Raji Ram]

Let me analyze your two statements above.

1. You would not happy to see Renukaji, with or without God's grace.:roll:

2. You would be unhappy to see your DIL is a beach in a swimsuit.:suspicious::noidea:ound:

1. I will be elated to see Renu and it will happen only by God's grace!

:gossip: No problem what she wears because she is NOT my d i l.

2. I haven't seen her in swim suit but I have seen her swim suit; it is a one piece suit and NOT a bikini! ound:

 

[Raji Ram]

With designer blouses, many close relative ladies of the bride and groom wear madisAr sarees, in brahmin weddings.

Yesterday, I attended a B - N B wedding and even the N B girl's relative wore Iyer madisAr, over a 3/4 leggings!

So ........... lets be happy that our culture is still very much alive! :dance:

P.S: The sAstrigaL started calling the bride, with the suffix 'mAmi' to her name and embarrassed her! :embarassed:

 

[zebra16]

P.S: The sAstrigaL started calling the bride, with the suffix 'mAmi' to her name and embarrassed her! :embarassed:

I have also been in that unenviable situation a couple of times. Cant call someone as mAmi who is about my own age or even younger, poNNu, thangai etc. does not exactly suit.

What is the correct way of addressing ladies/women (in tamizh) in age group of 35-40, without patronizingly addressing her as akkA/thangai etc. or embarrasingly calling her mAmi?

What is the correct tamizh or brAhmaNa tamizh word..??

 

[prasad1]

I have also been in that unenviable situation a couple of times. Cant call someone as mAmi who is about my own age or even younger, poNNu, thangai etc. does not exactly suit.

What is the correct way of addressing ladies/women (in tamizh) in age group of 35-40, without patronizingly addressing her as akkA/thangai etc. or embarrasingly calling her mAmi?



What is the correct tamizh or brAhmaNa tamizh word..??

Do we need a suffix?
In Hindi, it is very easy you just add "ji" to their name. If you do not know the name then behanji will do. Behan can be younger or older.

 

[tbs]

I have also been in that unenviable situation a couple of times. Cant call someone as mAmi who is about my own age or even younger, poNNu, thangai etc. does not exactly suit.

What is the correct way of addressing ladies/women (in tamizh) in age group of 35-40, without patronizingly addressing her as akkA/thangai etc. or embarrasingly calling her mAmi?

What is the correct tamizh or brAhmaNa tamizh word..??

hi

now a days...AUNTY is tamizh word...for elders.....

 

[Raji Ram]

I have also been in that unenviable situation a couple of times. Cant call someone as mAmi who is about my own age or even younger, poNNu, thangai etc. does not exactly suit.

What is the correct way of addressing ladies/women (in tamizh) in age group of 35-40, without patronizingly addressing her as akkA/thangai etc. or embarrasingly calling her mAmi?

What is the correct tamizh or brAhmaNa tamizh word..??

Easiest way is to just add a suffix 'mA'.

The bride's name is Meenakshi and sasthrigaL could have called her 'Meenakshi mA' or 'MeenA mA'.

I too don't like to be addressed as 'mami' by every Tom Dick and Harry! :nono:

BTW, 'Madam' has become THE word for auto drivers and shop keepers.

And........ my servant maid calls me 'akkA'.

 

[Raji Ram]

Do we need a suffix?
In Hindi, it is very easy you just add "ji" to their name. If you do not know the name then behanji will do. Behan can be younger or older.

We do need because calling a stranger just by name sounds a bit rude to us!

BTW, I am 'Raji manni' to Ram's sisters, their children and grandchildren too!

 

[krish44]

Talking of whither indian culture and Status of indian women, hear this from sahir ludhianvi

''Yeh ujale daricho mein payal ki chan chan

Thake haree sason me tabley ki dhan dhan

Yeh berooh kamre me khansi ki than than

Jine naaz hind par woh kahan hai

Kahan hai kaha hai kahan hai'

This is from Guru dutts film 'Pyaasa re released after restoration and running now.

Translation
In lighted buildings there is tingling of payal of women

In the sounds of Tabla,their tired breath is inter mixed.

Hear the sound of their coughs in rooms haunted by ghosts

Where are those who are proud about this vision of india

Where,where, where.

 

[auh]

What is the correct way of addressing ladies/women (in tamizh) in age group of 35-40, without patronizingly addressing her as akkA/thangai etc. or embarrasingly calling her mAmi?

idk about tamizh or brahmana tamizh but...

Best is to somehow twist and contort our body to catch their eye and say "oru nimisham" or to start the talk. The current 35 to 40 group would be ok with "hello" and a smile before starting the conversation. Being casual is the way.

 

[auh]

Easiest way is to just add a suffix 'mA'.

The bride's name is Meenakshi and sasthrigaL could have called her 'Meenakshi mA' or 'MeenA mA'.

I too don't like to be addressed as 'mami' by every Tom Dick and Harry! :nono:

BTW, 'Madam' has become THE word for auto drivers and shop keepers.

And........ my servant maid calls me 'akkA'.

Well said maami??

But the "ma" would not go well with males who are under 50, I think

 

[Raji Ram]

....... But the "ma" would not go well with males who are under 50, I think

Oh, come on!

That sAsthrigaL is in his 40s only!

BTW, 'mA' is different from 'ammA'!!

 

[krish44]

Best not to call them anything or by any name.

One can words like 'parunga' or enga . in english 'see' works.with women who are younger

A friendly cough , clearing throat or simply glaring and catching the eye and talking can also be successful with women in same older age group

Only modern types use a friendly Hi or shake hands.[ do not wipe hands with after shaking or smell perfume in their presence]

Putting hands together appears as if we are national leaders greeting each other

 

[krish44]

There is only one person I call yaar and get addressed as yaar.

You know who.