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Wife consent must for sperm donation? Husbands beware!

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Surrogate mothers can be donors, can't they or are they prohibited?

Commissioning couple get to know the surrogate mother (at least in tamil tv serials); since the sperm/ egg donor's identity is kept secret, anything is possible.

At least, in our old society, there was no secrecy.

As far as I know...No.
Cos donor has to be anonymous and even in cases of regular surrogates some do not want to give up the baby after the delivery(even though biologically it is not theirs).

If the surrogate is the donor than surely she can fight for rights to keep the child hence not advised.

Once I read a case about some woman in a western country who decided to be the surrogate to her daughters and son in laws child.

So she became the 1st grandmother to give birth to her own grandchild.
 
"Genius is no born of genes!"
Does the education get passed on through the sperms? :nono:
I am sure if Hitler KNEW about the possibility of cloning when he was live,
he would have exterminated the entire population
and replaced them with his own clones!
Can either of his actions be justified??? :shocked:


I know but you see at least the sperm came from an well educated person who wanted to populate the world with his own children.
I have a feeling he was too involved in his work.He cared too much for his patients.
This is what happens when a doctor does not know where to draw a line with patients.

Like yesterday I had a phone call from a local pharmacy asking me to endorse a controlled item prescription for a person who was visiting from a neighbouring country.

It was some slimming drug which can have cardiovascular side effects hence a controlled item.

I refused to endorse it cos you see the drug is not an essential drug that without which patient would die and also I have no idea about the medical background of the patient and what if any side effects happen when medication is taken here.

Further more the person comes from a country that might sue anyone even if a dog pissed on their car..so no way man!

I told the pharmacist some cock and bull story saying my insurance does not cover me endorsing overseas prescriptions.
 
When a woman can get tired and sick of her husband
then also such things can happen with mutual consent.

There was a woman who was allergic
not to her husband but to his sperms!!!

Every time they made love she would show
severe allergic symptoms which baffled the doctors first.

What choice does she have to get a baby???

It's still Yucks OK!

How to agree with such things!

If one can't have a child for whatever reason just accept it as fate and remain childless.
I also don't know how some women agree to donor sperm!

Seen so many cases when I was in India..real conservative families going in for donor sperm.
How to allow the seed of some other man grow in you?
 
..because it (HE?) is a branded, accepted and well respected stud!!! :)
If a weakling king can have his harem of pretty females,
why not the mighty king of the jungle have one ???:rolleyes:

Why dont they try to arrest the male lion in the african jungles which has a steady supply of 5-6 lionesses to readily pass on his sperms?
 
What about his virility and libido??? :)


Dear Doc

Ha ha, Ho Ho ! - you know, we have an ex-Central Minister [ also Ex State Governor ] who at
the 86 "suddenly" became the Father of a 34 year old man !

I've heard of "Prasadam Viniyogam" in Temples, but "Sperm Viniyogam" ! - beats me !

Incidentally [or co-incidentally], his initials are NDT and the story was blown open by NDTV !
[You are in Malaysia and might not have watched the news].

" Love Thy Neighbour ", sure - but watch-out one could land in real hot soup-
- DNA flavoured soup, with TV clippings for the masala and don't forget those
advocates in dungeon-like corridors carrying the 'A la-Carte' menu cards.

Poor [read pitiable ] wives become just mute spectators - they can't be expected to keep
records of where all their hubbies did their ' Free Distributions '. Their consent or otherwise
is of not any consequence - they have to suffer in silence.

Becoming a NEW Father at age 86 speaks more about one's infidelity rather than one's fertility.

Yay Yem
 
Can anyone guess and name the category 3 ???

Yes category 3 is "One who donates to the same sex(Homosexual relationship)!

Category 4 is "One who donates to both males and females(Bisexual)

Category 5 is "One who donates to multiple partners at one go.

Category 6....well never mind(many might get a heart attack reading it)
 
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Dear Raghy and VR ji,

Ok since response is good I will list category 6!(dont blame me if anyone gets a Cardiac Arrest!LOL)

Category 6 is "One who does not believe in any form of wastage and ONLY donates to the Gastro Intestinal Tract!LOL
 
I don't think anyone would get a heart attack. Category 6 is 'Paanjali' type multiple donations.

Cheers!

Hey don't do this yaar!

Draupadi is a person to be respected cos she was a true wife and a true devotee of God.

She loved all husbands and went through a lot of trials and tribulations.

She is listed in the 5 purest woman that had ever walked the world.
Sometimes we have to look beyond sexual relationships.
 
The horse 'red rum' won so many races in UK that he became a legend. He was in great demand (and expensive too) for fathering future winners; even his dung was precious and expensive - the feed grown on its manure was expected to do wonders.

..because it (HE?) is a branded, accepted and well respected stud!!! :)
If a weakling king can have his harem of pretty females,
why not the mighty king of the jungle have one ???:rolleyes:
 
Dear Renu/ Sarang Ji

Indiscriminate 'Sperm Viniyogam' sure can cause Family Problems.

here's what can happen within the 'legal framework': - It goes something like this:

Two friends [an American and an Indian] were drinking together when the Indian looked 'disturbed'.
On prodding from his friend, he said that he was having 'Family Problems'. On further probing, he confessed that
his Parents wanted him to marry a woman from his native village and explained to him about
Arranged Marriages. He didn't want to marry a woman he hadn't even met. He had conveyed this to his
folks and that was the cause of the 'Family Problems'.

The American said "Ok, I'll tell you my story " . " I married a widow whom I deeply loved and dated for three
years. After a couple of years, my Father fell in love with my step-daughter and married her. So, my Father
became my Son-in-Law, and I became my Father's Father-in-law " .

He continued:

" Legally now, my daughter is my Mother and my wife my Grandmother. More problems occurred when I had a son.
My son is my Father's brother. So, he becomes my uncle".

As the Indian was trying to digest things, the American kept narrating.

" The situation worsened when my Father had a son. Now, my Father's son is my brother and my Grandson.
Ultimately, I have become my own Grandfather and Grandson" .

" And you say that you have 'Family Problems' ? "

The Indian fainted !

Yay Yem
 
Dear Renu/ Sarang Ji

Indiscriminate 'Sperm Viniyogam' sure can cause Family Problems.

here's what can happen within the 'legal framework': - It goes something like this:

Two friends [an American and an Indian] were drinking together when the Indian looked 'disturbed'.
On prodding from his friend, he said that he was having 'Family Problems'. On further probing, he confessed that
his Parents wanted him to marry a woman from his native village and explained to him about
Arranged Marriages. He didn't want to marry a woman he hadn't even met. He had conveyed this to his
folks and that was the cause of the 'Family Problems'.

The American said "Ok, I'll tell you my story " . " I married a widow whom I deeply loved and dated for three
years. After a couple of years, my Father fell in love with my step-daughter and married her. So, my Father
became my Son-in-Law, and I became my Father's Father-in-law " .

He continued:

" Legally now, my daughter is my Mother and my wife my Grandmother. More problems occurred when I had a son.
My son is my Father's brother. So, he becomes my uncle".

As the Indian was trying to digest things, the American kept narrating.

" The situation worsened when my Father had a son. Now, my Father's son is my brother and my Grandson.
Ultimately, I have become my own Grandfather and Grandson" .

" And you say that you have 'Family Problems' ? "

The Indian fainted !

Yay Yem

Ha Ha Ha..lots of things also happens behind closed doors in our Indian society..the difference is we just know how to cover up our tracks!LOL
 
We had a similar problem posed by the invincible Vetal to King Vikramathithya centuries ago! :rolleyes:

Dear Renu/ Sarang Ji

Indiscriminate 'Sperm Viniyogam' sure can cause Family Problems.

here's what can happen within the 'legal framework': - It goes something like this:

Two friends [an American and an Indian] were drinking together when the Indian looked 'disturbed'.
On prodding from his friend, he said that he was having 'Family Problems'. On further probing, he confessed that
his Parents wanted him to marry a woman from his native village and explained to him about
Arranged Marriages. He didn't want to marry a woman he hadn't even met. He had conveyed this to his
folks and that was the cause of the 'Family Problems'.

The American said "Ok, I'll tell you my story " . " I married a widow whom I deeply loved and dated for three
years. After a couple of years, my Father fell in love with my step-daughter and married her. So, my Father
became my Son-in-Law, and I became my Father's Father-in-law " .

He continued:

" Legally now, my daughter is my Mother and my wife my Grandmother. More problems occurred when I had a son.
My son is my Father's brother. So, he becomes my uncle".

As the Indian was trying to digest things, the American kept narrating.

" The situation worsened when my Father had a son. Now, my Father's son is my brother and my Grandson.
Ultimately, I have become my own Grandfather and Grandson" .

" And you say that you have 'Family Problems' ? "

The Indian fainted !

Yay Yem
 
When all it takes is a man and woman to beget a child
and when man and the woman do not behave according to
their ages and the accepted norms of the society
we will have riddles within riddles and loops within loops. :dizzy:
 
Talking of dungs, I reminded of the civet cat whose dung is a gild mine!!!

Civet.






Civet is a small, lithe, arboreal mammal; native to the tropics of Asia and Africa. It resembles a cat in its general appearance, but its muzzle is extended and pointed like the muzzle of an otter or mongoose!

The civet is 17 to 28 inches long, excluding its long tail. It weighs between 3 and 10 pounds. Both the sexes produce a strong smelling secretion from their perineal gland. It is harvested by scraping it off from the live animals.

Fox-dung-coffee is an exotic drink prepared from the dung of civets! Called by the fascinating name “Kopi Luwak” it is prepared using the coffee cherries, that have been eaten and partially digested by the Asian Palm civets. It is harvested from its feces.

The civet digests the flesh of the coffee cherries but passes on the beans inside. It lets the stomach enzymes go to work on the beans and add to the coffee’s prized aroma and flavor.

Only a 1000 pounds of civet coffee is marketed every year. A pound of this can cost $600 in some parts of the world. A mere cup can cost $100 in some other parts of the world!


The horse 'red rum' won so many races in UK that he became a legend. He was in great demand (and expensive too) for fathering future winners; even his dung was precious and expensive - the feed grown on its manure was expected to do wonders.
 
For me either the child should be related to both or related to none.
It does not seem too comfortable to have a child who is only related to mother and not related to father and vice versa.

So adoption is better since the child does not belong to either father or mother.

The point is how to have sex with some other man who in no way you are in love with!
Child should be born out of love and union of heart,soul and body.

So I still find all those some situation where some other person acting on behalf of husband YUCKS only.

hi renu,

Child should be born out of love and union of heart,soul and body.

i agreed with u....i can add some more from vedic mantras for NAMAKARANAM..................

ANGAAD ANGAAD SAMBHAVASI....HRIDAYAAT ADI JAYATE.....AATMA VAI PUTRA NAAMASI...SA JEEVA SARADHA SATHAM.....

ASMA BHAVA ..PARASUR BHAVA...... HIRANYAM BHAVA....AADWAYUJA.....,meaning the child is born from different part of body...

born out of heart....same AATMA came in the name of son....you live for hundred years.....many deep philosohical

meaning in this vedic mantras......
 
Kunal vijayakar in his foodie tv programme in which hewats exotic dishes, is offered civet coffee in a five star hotel; he did not give the price but said it is expensive - thousand rupees. But the visible disconnect between his expression and words gave an indication of its taste. Well, one has to develop a taste - even rum, brandy and vodka are obnoxious to start with.

Prices can be lowered by starting a civet cat farm in salem/ erode (like the recent emu farm scam) to reduce cost of civet coffee, popularise it consumption and make money out of greedy and gullible investors.



Talking of dungs, I reminded of the civet cat whose dung is a gild mine!!!

Civet.

The civet digests the flesh of the coffee cherries but passes on the beans inside. It lets the stomach enzymes go to work on the beans and add to the coffee’s prized aroma and flavor.

Only a 1000 pounds of civet coffee is marketed every year. A pound of this can cost $600 in some parts of the world. A mere cup can cost $100 in some other parts of the world!

 
When all it takes is a man and woman to beget a child
and when man and the woman do not behave according to
their ages and the accepted norms of the society
we will have riddles within riddles and loops within loops. :dizzy:

Please revisit the high-lighted portion of your response. It is NOT that ALL it takes is a man and woman to beget a child. It is a minimum requirement and there appears a lot more of variables attached to it.

Otherwise we will not be having so many slokas, stotras, mantras etc. requesting Grace for an off-spring, nor would there be stigmatic and unpalatable words like barren women etc. in the dictionary.
 
This is cho's answer for a question on tiwari's 'plantation'!

Q: DNA tests prove that nd tiwari is the father of rohit sekar.

A: Whether the court will accept DNA evidence is debatable. In an earlier case the supreme court has ruled that a child born for a married couple when they are living together is a legal child of the parents. Even if the child is born to another man, it has to be proved without doubt that the wedded father is not the real father. That means when the child was conceived, there was no connection and contact between the couple.

Viewed in the light of the above judgement, legal position is not clear in tiwari's case.
 
We had a similar problem posed by the invincible Vetal to King Vikramathithya centuries ago! :rolleyes:


Looks like our K.Balachander's tamil movie...hmmmm...forgotten its name...!!...KamaHasan, Srividhya, Major Sunderarajan....hmmmm...!!..There is one song also..Kai Kotti Sirippargal..oorraar sirippargal...

TVK
 
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