Can we change the destiny of a baby by fixing the time of birth?

[Raji Ram]

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........ So I think may be I should check my patients horoscope to find out if they have favorable Saturn to help keep them thin!

You can only check, Renu! You can not shift Lord Sani! :bolt:

 

[N.R.Ranganathan]

Renu, wish you good luck for a good future, united married life, happy in all respects.

I wish you specialise in medical astrology also so that your diagnosis will be accurate. This is a seperate branch in
astrology.

I know people predict about illness, not exact but in general looking at the placement of planets. Illness related to
heart and lungs, liver etc can be identified. If the moon is debilitated, either he will be vaccilating or will have
weak mind. You can see mentally retarded children depending upon the position of moon, upon the day of birth
like amavasya.

 

[N.R.Ranganathan]

Dear Renu,

The Lagnam in the horoscope changes every two hours (calculated from the time of Sunrise) and since Lagnam is taken as

the first house, the horoscope with different Lagnams will have different readings. But as I mentioned earlier, the time of birth

should be exact and the one who predicts should be very well versed in astrology. My mama's son got married at the age of 26

to a girl aged 24. The have two brilliant sons and live happily. That girl's twin sister, born after a few minutes, got married at the

age of 32 and got a divorce in 33!! What do we say for this? Again leads to karma theory?

.

This is a good question. This type of difference was the provocation for the late KP to study astrology in depth and come out
with his famous theory called KP astrology. Prediction depends upon various factors in this method like
nakshatra lord, lord of the house, association of these lords with other planets etc. A detailed study
taxing your brain.

 

[renuka]

Renu, wish you good luck for a good future, united married life, happy in all respects.

I wish you specialise in medical astrology also so that your diagnosis will be accurate. This is a seperate branch in
astrology.

I know people predict about illness, not exact but in general looking at the placement of planets. Illness related to
heart and lungs, liver etc can be identified. If the moon is debilitated, either he will be vaccilating or will have
weak mind. You can see mentally retarded children depending upon the position of moon, upon the day of birth
like amavasya.

Dear Sir,

I do not mind studying anything cos I love to gain knowledge in anything both good or even bad.
I think my next year studies in Sanskrit does involve some Jyotish also.

But it all depends on how much of this knowledge is actually applicable in day to day life.

After many years of being a doctor all I can say that I leave it to Yama to decide who He takes and when He takes...we doctors can try to cure only to a certain extent.

Thank you very much for good wishes.

 

[tbs]

hi
yesdterday is history...tomorrow is MYSTERY....karmic theory and destiny....there is a hindi proverb,....SAMAY SE PAHLE

BHAGYA SE ADHIK KISI KO KUCH NAHI MILTA....there is sanskrit sloka from amarakosa.....DEIVAM ADRISTAM BHAGADEYAM

BHAGYAM SRIHI NIYATHIR VIDIHI.....

 

[sangom]

Dear Sri. Sangom, Greetings.



I beg to differ, please. Some problems in marriage itself may be faced, some problems centered around spouse may be faced, but the married life itself could be nothing but happiness. I know about one horoscope very well; Sani in the 7th house; that too 'neecha sani'; an outgoing person too; there were all sorts of stories before the jatakar's wedding; the wedding was made difficult by their relatives; but that couple do have a very nice married life. When they go out as couple together, it looked so nice, at one time one guy commented they looked like royals.

My point is, Sani in the seventh house may not bring any ill effect to either of the couple by each other. They could face difficult times from others. ( I may like to discuss this further, possibly in PM). ( Also I must add, most improvements in my life took place during Sani Mahadasai or during Sani Bukhti! Interestingly I suffered the most during Guru Dasai. In my opinion, Sani always favoured me as of today).

Cheers!

Dear Raghy,

In the case of "balanced" astrology, no single item can be taken in isolation, and a good astrologer will have to consider very many aspects. So, even when I said some things about Sani in the 4th. or 7th. houses from Lagna, those need not necessarily be true in all cases.

I did not mean that "Sani in the seventh house may not bring any ill effect to either of the couple by each other"; all that I wanted to convey was that this position of Saturn could give rise to problems in marital adjustment of the person but such a thing need not necessarily manifest if there are other factors nullifying or mitigating this. I had also said that it will be one of inter-personal relationship management and not that some "harm" will be produced to the spouse. Even an argumentative spouse can mar the joy and peace of marital life.

In astrology any planet may be very favourable or very evil, depending upon the individual horoscope. For instance Sukra (Venus) may be a death-inflicting planet for somebody and when Sukradasa runs for such person, death comes definitely and invariably. Yours may be a case of vrushabha Lagna in which case Sani will be the most beneficent planet out of the nine.

 

[sangom]

Dear Sir,

I would like to explain about my usage of the word Chosen.

I have read before that we choose Karmically compatible parents and family to carry out a life best suited for our previous deeds.

The unfortunate situations you have mentioned are part of the Karmic plan but we sometimes do not know the reason too for this cos some people go through hardship as a result of previous Karma and some people who want to use up their Sanchita Karma fast choose life of apparent suffering.

So technically we have no idea if a person who is "suffering" in our eyes is actually going through effects of his past deeds or actually voluntarily using up his Sanchita Karma.

But this does not mean that the suffering(becos of past deeds) is a dead end and has no escape.
Present on going actions of ours can help improve ourselves after all Lord Krishna did say only Self can elevate Self.The mind is one own's friend and also one own's enemy.

We humans too are always advised to help others especially the unfortunate cos God does not close the doors on anyone.
By helping the unfortunate they are alleviated from their sufferings and the helpers themselves improve spiritually..so it's like a perfect balanced eco system of Help Ever Hurt Never.

Our present life is the contract between God and us which we signed and agreed upon before we were born.


If you go through the Quran you would fine a similar understanding between God and us..even though they do not talk of Karma and rebirth but there is a sentence that goes "You have agreed with and promised God that you would take up this life and it's ups and down and hence you are born"

Smt. Renuka,

Your view may be the correct one but since none of us knows how these things like Karma, rebirth, etc., actually happen, I feel we need not discuss further. Thank you for your explanation.

 

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hi
astrology is based on many and combination of planets....not a single aspect is correct...even in marriage ...navamsa chart

is important than lagna chart.....but we generally follow pathu porutham/lagna chart.....its wrong in marriage matching....

same way SANIYE MATHIRI KODUPAVANUM ILLE....SANIYE MATHIRI KEDUPPAVANUM ILLE....so sani is more beneficial for

makara/ kumbha/ tula raasi....

 

[sangom]

Shri Sangom

Lot of people consult horoscope to predict for their life. Nobody really knows really what happen to the prediction except the person who inquires about it. Data were not collected by the astrologers in general. I have come across many people with failure of the prediction and also end up worse off., i.e spending more money doing rituals, blaming the individuals for their misfortune in their life. Medical profession is usually based on science. Even there seeking second opinion is normal. In the case of horoscope prediction we do not know how many opinions are needed.

Kind Regards

Smt. Amirtha,

Just as in medicine, we should (may) consult more than one astrologer when we are facing some problem in life and are searching for solutions. But usually the more astrologers you consult, the more confusion and resultant pariharams and expenses will result. Hence unless you have a trust-worthy astrologer, based on past experience, it is better not to go for astrological advice.

 

[ShivKC]

 

[sangom]

Dear Sangom Sir,

Thanks for your detailed reply. The 'kantaka Sani' period is over for me!

When I read about the effects of Sani in different places, I was just thinking: For some people, Sani lives with them

from the day of their wedding!

P.S: Ram's father seems to have rejected a few horoscope of girls with Sani in the 10th house, saying that they will be
very talkative and selected me... The funny part is I am a :blah: ! Who can change the fate? ound:

Smt. RR,

In my limited knowledge of astrology, the one thing that a person with Sani in the 10th. house has to note is that he/she should not venture into self-employment, own business, even business in any form like partnership, etc.; this person will not fare even moderately outside "service" that is doing work for somebody, some company or government but should be satisfied with wages. In Tamil it can be said that saturn in the 10th or even the 8th. house denotes சேவகம் of some kind or another. (But even as I write this, I am aware of many exceptions but those are all due to other factors in the horoscopes; there are also instances of people disregarding such astrological warning, starting their own business and ending up miserably.)

One good thing of tenth Sani is that such people will have a philosophical streak in them, and some may become ascetics, etc.

The problem with astrologers is that they are very loquatious 'after-the-event', just as in your case, the friend found out the Kantakassani as the reason for the elbow fracture and expanded on that. According to me that fall occurred it might have been caused by more than one factor, besides the KS; otherwise you would have had a continuous series of such accidents for a two-and-a-half year period!!

 

[Raji Ram]

Dear Sangom Sir,

Actually I did not have any fracture. It is by the grace of Lord Shakthi Vinayaka. I have belief in His grace. When I told

my doctor that I had a fall, he asked me if I am able to walk!! He suspected a fracture in one of my legs / hip joint.

Reg. the place of Sani: Someone has told Ram's father that Sani in the 10th house will make the girl very talkative and

he started searching for girls who do not have Sani in the 10th house!

BTW, your new avtar picture is nice.

 

[Raji Ram]

Post # 85
கை இல்லாதவனுக்கும் ஜாதகம் கணிக்கலாமே! :decision:

 

[renuka]

Reg. the place of Sani: Someone has told Ram's father that Sani in the 10th house will make the girl very talkative and

he started searching for girls who do not have Sani in the 10th house!

Dear RR ji,

You know which is the best way for one to keep silent?? Go online and let the fingers do all the talking(typing).

Believe me spending time online does reduce one's social skills.This is even a concern for young children spending time online and they fail to develop social interactive skill.

These days I hardly can hold a conversation with anyone but give me a lap top and I will be Blah Blah Blah typing away.

So I guess now we have to define the meaning of Talkativeness!LOL

 

[Raji Ram]

Dear Renu,

I :blah: in this forum by :typing: and later on

:blah: to share some stories from here with my friends and siblings!! :grouphug:

 

[renuka]

Dear Renu,

I :blah: in this forum by :typing: and later on

:blah: to share some stories from here with my friends and siblings!! :grouphug:

LOL!

Dear RR ji,

You see my job involves lots of talking to patients.

So I blah blah blah only in Forum and when I go home I keep very quiet cos whole day was spent blah blah blah!LOL

 

[renuka]

Dear RR ji,

One thing my horoscope prediction has been right is the year I purchase property and cars.
So far everything seems to be matching.

It also does say that I will get a Title from the State Ruler/King later in life but that alone I do not see any reason why I should get one cos I do not do anything outstanding as to get a Title from the State Ruler/King.

If I get one in future I will let you know Ok!LOL

 

[manoharkumar]

If I get one in future I will let you know Ok!LOL

GM Dr.Renukaji. Why only RR maam. The whole TB forum would be delighted to share the moment. Here is wishing you that "your predictions come true." Cheers.

 

[renuka]

GM Dr.Renukaji. Why only RR maam. The whole TB forum would be delighted to share the moment. Here is wishing you that "your predictions come true." Cheers.

Dear sir,

Some minor Titles are fine but some higher end Titles will make a person's lifestyle change tremendously.
The higher end Titles come with a code of conduct on how one should be and places to eat and be at too.
Also some "decorum" has to be maintained at all times.

So to a certain extent that curbs one's freedom.

So I still prefer to be free so that I have the freedom to be good or bad.

So actually I am not really hoping for that prediction to come true!LOL

 

[prasad1]

Dear RR ji,

One thing my horoscope prediction has been right is the year I purchase property and cars.
So far everything seems to be matching.

It also does say that I will get a Title from the State Ruler/King later in life but that alone I do not see any reason why I should get one cos I do not do anything outstanding as to get a Title from the State Ruler/King.

If I get one in future I will let you know Ok!LOL

In my book you have all the titles you need. To begin with you are a physician, healer, philosopher, listener, and best of all a friend.

 

[renuka]

In my book you have all the titles you need. To begin with you are a physician, healer, philosopher, listener, and best of all a friend.

So nice of you! Thank you.

Hope to live up to it.

 

[N.R.Ranganathan]

Mr.Sangom sir,

They would say " kannai maraichiduthu "

 

[N.R.Ranganathan]

Renukaji,

Wish the prediction comes true and you get more titles. You deserve it .

 

[N.R.Ranganathan]

Post # 85
கை இல்லாதவனுக்கும் ஜாதகம் கணிக்கலாமே! :decision:

I think he meant palmistry, and you astrology. Physical handicap is no bar to progress , and as you say this
aspect will be revealed by the horoscope.

 

[renuka]

Renukaji,

Wish the prediction comes true and you get more titles. You deserve it .

Dear Sir,

Thank you for your kind wishes.