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[sravna]

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Dear Renuka,

Hitler was definitely wrong in killing the jews. BR did positive things too in that he espoused rational thinking and the need for self respect.

 

[tks]

Shri Biswa,

Your argument is very valid if it is to exonerate a particular person or a handful of Jews from criticism. But, among humans each large group is generally identified as having a least common trait; for example the Chinese and, to a lesser extent, the Japanese — the Yellow races — are considered most inhumanly cruel especially in battlefields. So, may be the Jews have very strong negative characteristics once they are let free and empowered and that the Jews would be great trouble makers to the rest.

Even though "the blood libel" is now sought to be included as a plus point in favour of the Jews, if one really reads Jesus' history, can one forgive the Sanhedrin and the Jewish High Priests for crying for crucifixion of Jesus even when Pontius Pilate himself felt that Jesus was completely innocent and that there was not even one contrived reason to convict Jesus, and as he felt it was a sinful act he (Pontius) is said to have washed his hands to signify that he had no part in that sinful act.

For a much milder mob fury on the part of the Bigriver's followers, our tabra people get much agitated, but they either don't know or do not care that it was the mob fury of the Jewish crowd which was baying for the very blood of an innocent carpenter who had some good and practical advices to the common people, and mockingly crowned him saying "King of the Jews".

It looks to me as though many of us do not want to be impartial but just follow the current fashion, even in regard to opinions. Jews are dangerous parasites, if left free; statistical variance exists even among parasites including HIV, I suppose.

In my book few messages rise to the level of being called immature - this is one of them ..

 

[sangom]

In my book few messages rise to the level of being called immature - this is one of them ..

Mature "scholars" scrounging for immaturity?! kalikaala vaibhavam, what else?

 

[sangom]

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I wonder have you guys actually seen the real footage of how Jews were killed and how the young children and women were killed?

Do you know when some people were thrown into the furnace they were not yet dead..some were so weak and emaciated and too weak to even move.

I have no idea how can anyone even have an admiration for Hilter in anyway?

Smt. Renuka,

It will be clear from whatever footage you refer to, that each and every killing was not personally ordered or approved by Hitler; or am I wrong in so assuming? Then you can correct me.

It was the deep-rooted hatred for the Jews which existed in the non-Jew Germans which caused much of the holocaust in all its chilling cruelty. Plus, the Nazis managed the concentration camps as though the Jews were inanimate objects to a large extent and the camps were factories to recycle these inanimate objects into manure or whatever else.

Where today's people go wrong is in mindlessly believing what the victors want us to believe. And the more demoniacal the Hitler, the greater the leverage for the western powers. This is the sad part, I think.

And, in that glorious Israel, the Jewish immigrants from Asian countries and Russia are treated very much in the manner we treated our Dalits. So, may be we can exonerate the western Jews and even promote them as Jew Brahmins

 

[vgane]

It may be a fact that the Jews had been subjugated almost throughout history. But just as we humans even now don't hesitate to kill a scorpion when we see one, perhaps those old people, right from Constantine's days knew the true nature of jews and what they were likely to do, if given freedom. Today, however, Jews have justified what history has done to them; not only that, may be another holocaust is just waiting for them at the next turn of the historical road, who knows? Anyway, I have no sympathy for jews or israel.

Dear Shri Sangom,

I feel sorry for your statement...You are now cursing the Jews that they should suffer another holocaust..This is uncharitable and venomous thinking...The Jews have suffered so much in history, yet you have no sympathy for them...How about the Marwaris then whose business is similar to the Jews..Will you spit such venom on these too?

Jews have risen like a phoenix..Israel is known for its innovative spirit in the high tech sector ( highest per capita in terms of incubation of new ideas in Bio tech)..No one can hold a candle to Israel and the Jewish people for their fighting spirit, sharp intellect and never say die attitude!

 

[sangom]

Dear Shri Sangom,

I feel sorry for your statement...You are now cursing the Jews that they should suffer another holocaust..This is uncharitable and venomous thinking...The Jews have suffered so much in history, yet you have no sympathy for them...How about the Marwaris then whose business is similar to the Jews..Will you spit such venom on these too?

Dear Shri Gane,

I hope you have read all my posts above. What you say is the fashionable thing to do now and what the Western Powers would like the world to believe.

Marwadis are very different from the Jews, imo. The Marwadis were also very good in doing charitable works and they do not have anything like the crucifixion blot, on them.

FYI, it is the scorpion which injects venom (does not spit) and Marwadis do not have the same mischief capacity as do the Jews.

Jews have risen like a phoenix..Israel is known for its innovative spirit in the high tech sector ( highest per capita in terms of incubation of new ideas in Bio tech)..No one can hold a candle to Israel and the Jewish people for their fighting spirit, sharp intellect and never say die attitude!

Till the Jews try to conquer Pakistan, Bangladesh, etc., you will gladly sing such Hallelujas for Jews and Israel. Try to live in Palestine and then you will see the truth. Had you been born in Sinai, the Golan heights or west bank.

JFYKI :—

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The Israeli-occupied territories are the territories which have been designated as occupied territory by the United Nations and other international organizations, governments and others to refer to the territory seized by Israel during the Six-Day War of 1967 from Egypt, Jordan, and Syria. They consist of the West Bank, including East Jerusalem; much of the Golan Heights; the Gaza Strip, though Israel disputes this and argues that since the implementation of its disengagement from Gaza in 2005 it no longer occupies the territory; and, until 1982, the Sinai Peninsula. The West Bank and Gaza Strip are also referred to as the Palestinian territories or "Occupied Palestinian Territory". The Palestinian Authority, the EU,[SUP][1][/SUP] the International Court of Justice,[SUP][2][/SUP] the UN General Assembly[SUP][3][/SUP] and the UN Security Council[SUP][4][/SUP] consider East Jerusalem to be part of the West Bank and occupied by Israel; Israel considers all of Jerusalem to be its capital and sovereign territory.
The International Court of Justice,[SUP][2][/SUP] the UN General Assembly[SUP][3][/SUP] and the United Nations Security Council regards Israel as the "Occupying Power".[SUP][5][/SUP] UN Special Rapporteur Richard Falk called Israel’s occupation “an affront to international law.”[SUP][6][/SUP] The Israeli High Court of Justice has ruled that Israel holds the West Bank under "belligerent occupation".[SUP][7][/SUP] According to Talia Sasson, the High Court of Justice in Israel, with a variety of different justices sitting, has repeatedly stated for more than 4 decades that Israel’s presence in the West Bank is in violation of international law.[SUP][8][/SUP]
Israeli governments have preferred the term "disputed territories" in the case of the West Bank.[SUP][9][/SUP][SUP][10][/SUP]
The first use of the term 'territories occupied' was in United Nations Security Council Resolution 242 following the Six-Day War in 1967, which called for "the establishment of a just and lasting peace in the Middle East" to be achieved by "the application of both the following principles: ... Withdrawal of Israeli armed forces from territories occupied in the recent conflict ... Termination of all claims or states of belligerency" and respect for the right of every state in the area to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries.
Israel's annexation of East Jerusalem in 1980 (see Jerusalem Law) and the Golan Heights in 1981 (see Golan Heights Law) has not been recognised by any other country.[SUP][11][/SUP] United Nations Security Council Resolution 478 declared the annexation of Jerusalem "null and void" and required that it be rescinded. United Nations Security Council Resolution 497 also declared the annexation of the Golan "null and void". Following withdrawal by Israel from the Sinai Peninsula in 1982, as part of the 1979 Israel–Egypt Peace Treaty, the Sinai ceased to be considered occupied territory. Israel unilaterally disengaged from Gaza in September 2005, and declared itself no longer to be in occupation of the Strip. However, as it retains control of Gaza's airspace and coastline, it continues to be designated as an occupying power in the Gaza Strip by the United Nations Security Council, the United Nations General Assembly[SUP][12][/SUP] and some countries and various human rights organizations.[SUP][13][/SUP][SUP][14][/SUP][SUP][15][/SUP][SUP][16]

(Israeli-occupied territories - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

So, that is how your favourite Jews (Israelis) have risen "like a Phoenix". You may continue to admire or even worship Israel but I am of the confirmed view that they are a danger to the whole world.[/SUP]

Note: I am not an anti-Jew but definitely I am anti-zionist.

 

[indianassault]

Oh lotsa discussion going on. I would like to add one more point. We all talk of Hitler "Killing" "mass murdering" etc. Terrorism also kills instantly . But only once and instantly. Whereas the Big bosses, Politicians , The corrupt and Rich kill the poor on a daily basis. No one talks about the mental agony of the poor and oppressed. Afghan is gone, Iraq is hell. Pak will be extinct soon. India has probably the largest middle class in the world. I work for making Shell bosses richer , but i spend 80 Rs daily for a litre of gas. of course it could be lower.

Greed is the problem. Hitler was greedy . The current world leaders are even more greedy...
If you take out the killing of Jews, there is no leader who made such an impact to Germany and the world in such a short period.

 

[Nara]

.... If you have conviction it should rightly reflect in your actions. Unlike Hitler , bigriver was hypocritical in many ways. .

From a few weeks bacK (emphasis mine):

Hypocrisy is indeed harmless. I would think it is not even a weakness. It is as you say a pastime for some. ....

 

[Jaykay767]

wow, I amshocked at the view that Jews deserved the holocaust and comparing them toscorpion/venom.

Jews are thevictims of a terrible terrible tragedy in history & they deserve all thesupport. Nor is the Israel govt wrong, they have a legitimate right to defendthemselves.

Yes, you canalways say, Israel made mistakes but which country is/has been perfect ?? so to solely blame them for the Palestinian crisisis absolutely wrong. And for those who dont want to know, it is NOT the Jewswho decided to settle in the erstwhile Palestinian territory, it was thewestern powers who decided that !!

Unfortunately,this is what hatred does – when you hate someone or a community for a long time,one becomes irrational & talks about annihilation without realizing theimmorality & evil associated with it !!!!

 

[vgane]

Note: I am not an anti-Jew but definitely I am anti-zionist.

Dear Shri Sangom,

Thanks for your clarification!

Every country wants to shows its military might and heroism by annexing some other country's territory by claiming that it originally belonged to them..Look at the dispute between China and Japan over Senkaku islands...In September 2012, Japan bought the islands and nationalised it...China got furious (there is great antipathy towards Japan in China) and it set up its own Air defence identification zone which included the disputed islands and a rock that South Korea claims..USA sniffed an opportunity and sent its air force there without permission from China

Are China, Japan and South Korea fanning the flames of war? - Telegraph

By a similar logic Israel is upping its ante to show who the boss is..But let us not ascribe motives to them as a race

 

[sangom]

Dear Shri Sangom,

Thanks for your clarification!

Every country wants to shows its military might and heroism by annexing some other country's territory by claiming that it originally belonged to them..Look at the dispute between China and Japan over Senkaku islands...In September 2012, Japan bought the islands and nationalised it...China got furious (there is great antipathy towards Japan in China) and it set up its own Air defence identification zone which included the disputed islands and a rock that South Korea claims..USA sniffed an opportunity and sent its air force there without permission from China

Are China, Japan and South Korea fanning the flames of war? - Telegraph

By a similar logic Israel is upping its ante to show who the boss is..But let us not ascribe motives to them as a race

Dear Shri Gane,

Your reading of recent history seems to be topsy turvy to me. There is no comparison to the newly created nation of Israel, a "charity" (பிச்சை) by the then British Super Power to mollify the sentiments towards the Zionist demands through the Balfour Declaration,1917, and the territorial problems between China & Japan both of which have a very long history. Trying to find similarities between the two is, to put it mildly, a sign of naiveté. Right from the six-day war in 1967, less than 20 years after the fledgling Israel came into existence, till now, Israel is attacking its neighbours and crying out "otherwise they will attack us". And all people like you are sympathizing with these attackers. Suppose tomorrow China were to use the same trick and attack India, will you then be saying "Every country wants to shows its military might and heroism by annexing some other country's territory by claiming that it originally belonged to them."?

And, in any case, Israel is not following this line. Israel is a belligerent, renegade country wanting to extend its areas by any means whatsoever. The tragedy id, there is no one to control it.

 

[Nara]

.... Jews are dangerous parasites, if left free; statistical variance exists even among parasites including HIV, I suppose.

I strongly condemn painting an entire group as dangerous parasites that must not be left free. It is highly irresponsible to characterize this post as "immature", because an immature post is one that we can simply ignore as mere babbling. But Sangom has earned a much deserved reputation as a serious thinker and to say his post is "immature" can itself be called immature and ignored.

Sangom's post is dangerous and must not be ignored. The analysis he has presented is flawed on many counts. The alleged actions of jews of Jerusalem some two thousand years ago, or the actions Israeli state since its inception, can't make the entire jewish population of the world "dangerous parasites". This is the way to sow the seeds of hatred and if it resonates with anybody, it can have dangerous consequences. If this hatred is allowed to well up, as it did in all over Europe, a Hitler can and will rise up and tap into it with disastrous results.

A little bit of history, hatred of jews was not only allowed all over European society, it was actively encouraged. Anti-semitism permeated the entire continent, it was not unique to Germany. But only the axis countries took the hatred to the next level and started killing the jews. If there was a English Hitler, he could have just as well made the English do these dreadful things because they all shared a high degree of anti-semitism. The point is wide spread hatred is the root cause and we must guard against it.

A slight diversion, the connection is hatred for an entire group ---
This thing is being played out against Muslims these days in many countries. In India, the hatred of muslims has been easy to cultivate and nurture because the general public is largely ignorant of history and there are enough people around to twist it to promote their own political end. The Hindutva folks have been at it for decades and now this hatred has reached a dangerous level. When Modi thunders "we are five, ours fifteen" he is cheered on. For him the murdered victims were like puppies he ran over, not worth worrying about. He is tapping right into the hatred of muslims for political gain. This is serious and I hope India chooses wisely in the upcoming election.

 

[sravna]

From a few weeks bacK (emphasis mine):

Dear Shri Nara,

I was only pointing out that bigriver was not really a man of convictions. I did not criticize his hypocrisy.

 

[கால பைரவன்]

Perhaps because Jews are a religious group, the agnostics/atheists exhibit much antipathy towards them. During the holocaust days, BigRiver's stance on Jews is comparable to Sangom's views.

Below is a sample of what BigRiver had to say about Jews, comparing them with Brahmins.

யூதர்களுக்கு குடியிருக்க நாடும் இல்லை, நாட்டுப்பற்றும் இல்லை என்பதற்கும் பிராமணர்களுக்குக் குறிப்பிட்ட நாடும் இல்லை நாட்டுப்பற்றும் இல்லை என்பதற்கும் ஒற்றுமை இருக்கிறதா இல்லையா?

யூதர்கள் சிறிதும் தங்களைத் தவிர வேறு எதிலும் பொறுப்பு இல்லாமல் எப்படியாவது ஆளுகிறவர்களைச் சுவாதீனம் செய்துகொண்டு, ஆளுவதில் கலந்துகொண்டு தந்திரங்கள் செய்து மற்ற குடிகளை வாட்டி வதக்கி உயிர்வாங்க வாழுகிறவர்கள் என்பதற்கும் பார்ப்பனர்களும் சிறிதும் பொறுப்பு இல்லாமல் எப்படியாவது ஆளுபவர்களைச் சுவாதீனம் செய்துகொண்டு ஆட்சியில் புகுந்து ஆதிக்கம் செலுத்தப் பார்க்கிறார்கள் என்பதற்கும் சரியான பொருத்தம் இல்லையா?

Vaagmi is correct about hatred opiate.

 

[Nara]

<posts about evr are banned>

 

[கால பைரவன்]

Because there are always people to justify hatemongering under one pretext or the other,there may be some ex-jews a la ex-brahmins who might agree with Sangom and BigRiver. But the Jews realize they are doomed if they allow such anti-semitic thoughts to flourish. So a separate Israel state is an absolute must. Beyond that, it is all politics.

 

[tks]

I strongly condemn painting an entire group as dangerous parasites that must not be left free. It is highly irresponsible to characterize this post as "immature", because an immature post is one that we can simply ignore as mere babbling. But Sangom has earned a much deserved reputation as a serious thinker and to say his post is "immature" can itself be called immature and ignored.


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I Highlighted the part I wanted to comment on.. I do not want to comment on any person but only their posts.

The reputation as a serious thinker is earned is only in the minds of like minded few who also tend to post immature ideas now and then in my experience.

Any post talking about annihilating followers of a major religion in the world can either originate from a disturbed mind or due to immature thinking. I am being charitable in interpreting such posts as immature. No one credible is going to take such immature posts seriously other than members of this 'mutual admiration society'

 

[sangom]

I strongly condemn painting an entire group as dangerous parasites that must not be left free. It is highly irresponsible to characterize this post as "immature", because an immature post is one that we can simply ignore as mere babbling. But Sangom has earned a much deserved reputation as a serious thinker and to say his post is "immature" can itself be called immature and ignored.

Sangom's post is dangerous and must not be ignored. The analysis he has presented is flawed on many counts. The alleged actions of jews of Jerusalem some two thousand years ago, or the actions Israeli state since its inception, can't make the entire jewish population of the world "dangerous parasites". This is the way to sow the seeds of hatred and if it resonates with anybody, it can have dangerous consequences. If this hatred is allowed to well up, as it did in all over Europe, a Hitler can and will rise up and tap into it with disastrous results.

A little bit of history, hatred of jews was not only allowed all over European society, it was actively encouraged. Anti-semitism permeated the entire continent, it was not unique to Germany. But only the axis countries took the hatred to the next level and started killing the jews. If there was a English Hitler, he could have just as well made the English do these dreadful things because they all shared a high degree of anti-semitism. The point is wide spread hatred is the root cause and we must guard against it.

A slight diversion, the connection is hatred for an entire group ---
This thing is being played out against Muslims these days in many countries. In India, the hatred of muslims has been easy to cultivate and nurture because the general public is largely ignorant of history and there are enough people around to twist it to promote their own political end. The Hindutva folks have been at it for decades and now this hatred has reached a dangerous level. When Modi thunders "we are five, ours fifteen" he is cheered on. For him the murdered victims were like puppies he ran over, not worth worrying about. He is tapping right into the hatred of muslims for political gain. This is serious and I hope India chooses wisely in the upcoming election.

Dear Shri Nara,

You will definitely have more information and more authentic information about Jews and their history. I do not dispute it at all. But your own above post has the following:

"The alleged actions of jews of Jerusalem some two thousand years ago, or the actions Israeli state since its inception, can't make the entire jewish population of the world "dangerous parasites"."

To a less-informed person like myself this gives the impression that around 2000 years ago when the Jews, their court, etc., ruled Judea they (the Jews, that is) had no qualms in accusing Jesus of blasphemy and demanding nothing less than the death of that person, even when the Roman Governor, Pontius Pilate found no contrived evidence even to accuse Jesus of any crime but he feared the crowds (read Jews) and so let them decide the Fate of Jesus and washed his hands off, symbolically. (Jesus Crucifixion - Bible Story Summary of the Crucifixion of Jesus Christ)

Now, even after 2000 years, the Israeli state behaves in much the same manner and it goes about attacking its neighbours on (probably paranoid thinking) that if it does not attack first and keep some territory in belligerent occupation, its neighbours would attack and destroy their country.

Is this not adequate evidence that the Jews, as a people, continue to pose danger to others, be it a poor preacher like Jesus or countries like UAE, Syria, Jordan, etc? If Israel, the modern state had continued as a non-agressive, peace-loving nation like India, say, I will definitely agree with most of you who seem to take undue pains to paint the Jews as a group deserving of utmost sympathy of the rest of the world. The Jews were docile, even in India (including Kerala, Bombay, etc.) but once they knew they could have Aliyah, they started having high notions about themselves. This I have seen among my Jew friends in Bombay. That is why I said earlier that I am not anti-Jew but anti-zionism (giving them an independent state of their own). I used the word 'dangerous parasites' only in the context of a Jewish state and not against the people as such. BTW, Mahatma Gandhi also opposed the creation of Israel and formal diplomatic ties between India & Israel came only in the 1990's.

Yourself, Shri tks and many others in India and in the US, barring Shri Sravna - in India, seem to be "scared" of criticizing Jews and/or Israel. I don't know why, but I doubt that it may be due to the omnipresence of the Jewish influence in US and the need to "conform" which is a must in the US.

You further admit that "A little bit of history, hatred of jews was not only allowed all over European society, it was actively encouraged. Anti-semitism permeated the entire continent, it was not unique to Germany. But only the axis countries took the hatred to the next level and started killing the jews. If there was a English Hitler, he could have just as well made the English do these dreadful things because they all shared a high degree of anti-semitism."
Does not this show that either all the Europeans were lunatics basically to hate Jews, or, that there was some core of truth to their pervasive dislike for the Jews? Kindly ponder.

The point is wide spread hatred is the root cause and we must guard against it.

The way you have put it, it looks as though those who hate have a basic problem but those who are/were hated are completely blameless. But strangely I don't find this approach in your writings about Bigriver. If 'widespread hatred is the root cause', then Bigriver who sowed the seeds of widespread hatred will have to be the villain, just like Hitler — and tabras become pure, blameless people just as the Jews/Israel. Why is there a double standard? Or is it a case of "tell me the person and I shall tell you the rule?"

Just as Shri tks tries to tutor another member vide his post here, I feel it may be necessary to distinguish between the thinking styles of people like myself living in India and that of people making a living in the US; and this time that post boomerangs on tks himself!

Despite all of what I have written above, if you or anybody else considers it necessary to gloss over and say good things about Jews and/or Israel, all of you may please continue to do so and paint Hitler as badly as you wish and eulogize the Jews and their state Israel.

 

[prasad1]

I strongly condemn painting an entire group as dangerous parasites that must not be left free. It is highly irresponsible to characterize this post as "immature", because an immature post is one that we can simply ignore as mere babbling. But Sangom has earned a much deserved reputation as a serious thinker and to say his post is "immature" can itself be called immature and ignored.

Sangom's post is dangerous and must not be ignored. The analysis he has presented is flawed on many counts. The alleged actions of jews of Jerusalem some two thousand years ago, or the actions Israeli state since its inception, can't make the entire jewish population of the world "dangerous parasites". This is the way to sow the seeds of hatred and if it resonates with anybody, it can have dangerous consequences. If this hatred is allowed to well up, as it did in all over Europe, a Hitler can and will rise up and tap into it with disastrous results.

A little bit of history, hatred of jews was not only allowed all over European society, it was actively encouraged. Anti-semitism permeated the entire continent, it was not unique to Germany. But only the axis countries took the hatred to the next level and started killing the jews. If there was a English Hitler, he could have just as well made the English do these dreadful things because they all shared a high degree of anti-semitism. The point is wide spread hatred is the root cause and we must guard against it.

A slight diversion, the connection is hatred for an entire group ---
This thing is being played out against Muslims these days in many countries. In India, the hatred of muslims has been easy to cultivate and nurture because the general public is largely ignorant of history and there are enough people around to twist it to promote their own political end. The Hindutva folks have been at it for decades and now this hatred has reached a dangerous level. When Modi thunders "we are five, ours fifteen" he is cheered on. For him the murdered victims were like puppies he ran over, not worth worrying about. He is tapping right into the hatred of muslims for political gain. This is serious and I hope India chooses wisely in the upcoming election.

I "liked" this post.
This contention by Mr. Sangom is dangerous on many fronts. First of all it is wrong analysis , and anti-semantic. Ignorance can be rectified by knowledge, but delusion needs medical intervention.

 

[biswa]

Even though "the blood libel" is now sought to be included as a plus point in favour of the Jews, if one really reads Jesus' history, can one forgive the Sanhedrin and the Jewish High Priests for crying for crucifixion of Jesus even when Pontius Pilate himself felt that Jesus was completely innocent and that there was not even one contrived reason to convict Jesus, and as he felt it was a sinful act he (Pontius) is said to have washed his hands to signify that he had no part in that sinful act.

It looks to me as though many of us do not want to be impartial but just follow the current fashion, even in regard to opinions. Jews are dangerous parasites, if left free; statistical variance exists even among parasites including HIV, I suppose.

Crucifixion of Jesus, Spanish inquisition, sons of Kartavirya Arjuna killing Parashurama's father, Parashurama killing all Ksatriyas, these are just yin and yang, two sides of the same coin.

If I were to be impartial, I would say, they do not reflect anything about the true nature of any particular group. If anything the just reveal the blood lust of humans in general.

 

[renuka]

Actually after this post I am not planning to log in to this Hitler thread..some posts here are actually very disturbing..it makes you want to believe that each human has some hidden blood thirsty demon lurking in them and the outward so called Sattva disposition is just becos of lack of strength and utter hypocrisy.

I feel the Avatar syndrome has ruined the Hindu mind..some post here make it sound as if Hitler was the Kalki Avatar!

Loka Samastha Sukhino Bhavantu

 

[sravna]

Hi folks,

I think Shri Sangom has been unfairly attacked for expressing his views on Jews which I think were very bold. It takes a lot of maturity to see an event by going beyond the impact that it can make on the senses and see it in an impartial way.I accept that the holocaust should not have happened and
Hitler did commit a grave error.

The Jews who I thiink are largely responsible for the policies of countries such as the U.S. and Israel, are taking them in the wrong direction and will eventually lead these countries into disaster. These people in my opinion are short sighted and with their success in various fields have become haughty
making matters worse. My views on the jews are based on the policies of the U.S. and Israel and some knowledge of history.

 

[ashwin_ash]

Actually after this post I am not planning to log in to this Hitler thread..some posts here are actually very disturbing..it makes you want to believe that each human has some hidden blood thirsty demon lurking in them and the outward so called Sattva disposition is just becos of lack of strength and utter hypocrisy.

I feel the Avatar syndrome has ruined the Hindu mind..some post here make it sound as if Hitler was the Kalki Avatar!

Loka Samastha Sukhino Bhavantu

Hitler was evil personified. But some people worldwide are questioning the extent of the holocaust. Whether Hitler really killed millions of Jews, or what number, is unknown. But the fact is, he was a monster. Despite being almost annihilated, Jews have made a very successful comeback in Europe, even in Germany and Poland. And Israel enjoys very good relations with almost the entire world barring some gulf countries, which is also changing. Arabs are also thriving in Israel. This shows Jews know to forgive and forget, and move on. Show me a single Jew who says Germany should not exist.

It is India which is moving backwards by still harping on old 'injustices' and adopting a very narrow-minded casteist mentality. Add religious hatred, and India is a cauldron waiting to ignite any moment. Politicians keep the fire alive in India, and consequently it will remain dirt-poor for a long time.

 

[கால பைரவன்]

I see that Nara's post (# 65) has been edited out (removed). I understand this is forum's policy but his was a reaction to my post (# 64). AFAIA, I have avoided any reference to BR since the ban and on this instance I included the quotes only because of the reference to Jews and similarity to Sangom's view.

 

[Brahmanyan]

Actually after this post I am not planning to log in to this Hitler thread..some posts here are actually very disturbing..it makes you want to believe that each human has some hidden blood thirsty demon lurking in them and the outward so called Sattva disposition is just becos of lack of strength and utter hypocrisy.

I feel the Avatar syndrome has ruined the Hindu mind..some post here make it sound as if Hitler was the Kalki Avatar!

Loka Samastha Sukhino Bhavantu

Dear Doctor,

I fully agree with your views. After reading some of the posts in this thread, I am a confused person now.
What is the purpose of discussing all the subjects like Religion, Spiritualism,Nonviolence, Vegetarianism etc.,
if they could not instil compassion and love in our mind.

அறவினை யாதெனின் கொல்லாமை கோறல்
பிறவினை எல்லாந் தரும். ( அறத்துப்பால் குறள் 321)
Never to destroy life is the sum of all virtuous conduct.
The destruction of life leads to every evil. (Tirukkural )

Regards,
Brahmanyan,
Bangalore.