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if the groom is an african american or hispanic or asian or a muslim white guy or arab ? what would be your reaction?LOL
hi doctor,
i dont like BMW.....u know ....BLACK/MUSLIM/WHITE.....its hard for me...this is my reaction..lol
if the groom is an african american or hispanic or asian or a muslim white guy or arab ? what would be your reaction?LOL
Objection your honor, ma'am. This is popular advice, and I don't like it. Why does marrying your own kind have to be a 'sacrifice'? Why does someone have to bury their feelings and marry into one's own caste half heartedly? Why doesn't nobody point out that this is not "love", but simple, plain old lust?? This word 'love' has been deeply sullied and excessively romanticized, precisely for more of these scenarios to happen. What happens between two hormonal teenagers or two young adults is not love. It's only lust. Love can happen at any age, between anyone, even animals.
It's really sad to see that Brahmins are totally totally clueless about this. Tamil society harasses Brahmin men and glorifies non Brahmin men, thereby encouraging more of these things to happen. Showing Brahmin men as weak, cunning people, and other nb men as tough, humble people with positive attributes. If you notice all the movies, the parents and menfolk of the girl are shown as comedy characters. I'm sure she or her father are also TOTALLY ignorant about the surge of deep anti-brahmin hatred in tamilnadu in recent times. If she knew what brahmin men have to go through, she wouldn't have asked this question.
I'm not a doctor,but I can try to give a doctor-ish response from Google. A Woman has to protected by the menfolk of her clan. Period. Lack of that creates shamelessness in women. Y-chromosome comes only from males. All the nb's of society are conspiring to create a condition that is favorable for upper caste women to "fall in love" with lower caste men, getting the better genes for themselves. The very sense of shame in a girl's mind is imparted only by the males. EVERY ONE does this except Brahmins. In the மெதப்பு of being progressive.
If I'm harsh, excuse me, but I'm so concerned because im also Iyengar, and I'm aware of these things. If anybody is hurt, உங்க மனசு புண்படும்னு பாத்துட்ருந்தா நாங்க தலை ல துண்டு போட்டுக்க வேண்டியது தான்.
I'm not a doctor,but I can try to give a doctor-ish response from Google. A Woman has to protected by the menfolk of her clan. Period. Lack of that creates shamelessness in women. Y-chromosome comes only from males. All the nb's of society are conspiring to create a condition that is favorable for upper caste women to "fall in love" with lower caste men, getting the better genes for themselves. The very sense of shame in a girl's mind is imparted only by the males. EVERY ONE does this except Brahmins. In the மெதப்பு of being progressive.
Y chromosomes come only from males..yes..true..but you still need an X chromosome from a female to even call yourself a male.
There is no organism with a YY running around the world.
The XXY is Klinefelter syndrome which is a male that exhibits feminine characteristics and diminished masculine characteristics...overall behavior normal with gentle behavior.
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Then some males go one step further and start quoting Arjuna in the Bhagavad Geeta where he says "
TEXT 40
adharmabhibhavat krsna
pradusyanti kula-striyah
strisu dustasu varsneya
jayate varna-sankarah
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TRANSLATION
When irreligion is prominent in the family, O Krsna, the women of the family become corrupt, and from the degradation of womanhood, O descendant of Vrsni, comes unwanted progeny.
Krishna never really supports what Arjuna told and never degraded the character of women.
So Gokul...be a Krishna since your name is Gokul.
Try to get married within our community . Tamil films are spoiling Bramin community by showing wrong examples. Youngsters are getting distracted by social media. Your parents will be the best guide who will find suitable match . Best wishes .I am iyengar girl (22) . I am in love with backward caste boy (24)for a year we know each other very well . He said if my parents agree he will marry me definitely. Can you people guide whether he is good for me?
God didnt make a male with extra brains to teach a female anything.Thanks for your interest ma'am. Like i said, i realize im being paranoid, but its because the girl belongs to the same caste as me, and i have been cursed with having eyes that are open. I think its this excessive obsession with decency/niceties AT THE COST OF THE VITAL DUTIES has to be relaxed. We have to handle tough and ugly things too.
And i was trying to go into biology to explain what was happening. I think your explanations were somewhat vague. Shame is not the same as shyness. Shame in a woman is imparted only by her menfolk. The men have to tell her what is right, and what is not. Do you know why? Simple. Because the way a male get sexual arousal on seeing a female (generally), only the males know. The female has no way of actually knowing how a male feels. And this is PRECISELY the reason why the society shows brahmin males in poor light. See your tamil movies. The father and brothers (males) are always losers/comedy or villains. And the lower caste guy is humble, strong, just (!), etc etc. So that the girl develops disgust/awkwardness towards her own men, and "love" towards the lower caste men. And even if she marries her own caste guy, its after "burying her feelings".
If the men of a clan lower their defenses, what happens is standard, and this should give us a hint why the defenses should be kept up - Lower caste men rushing to marry upper caste women. Why this mad rush? Does it not show that they know upper caste women to be a valuable commodity? They are using social/democratic pressure to weaken the males, so that the females will follow their nature's instinct and increasingly marry other males. We cant change anything, but we have to at least resist, no. I know all this sounds medieval, but thats where our value systems come from, and thats the core from where religion comes from, too. No point following rituals and religious customs strictly after messing up the core.
A lot of women also try to squeeze the most out the brahmin tag, still sticking on the slang, the customs, the "brahminness", even after having married out, making total, total losers of B's. We have to at least resist.
Last, but not the least,
"Modesty died in women, when jealousy died in men."
- Shaykh al-Albani (رحمه الله)
Thanks and Regards,
Gokul
You seem upset that I advised Ms Priyanka to marry a Brahmin cos u didnt want a Brahmin male to be a 2nd choice.
Wake up boy...life isnt just Black and White
Ms Priyanka and her boyfriend are both decent people who want advise of elders and not wanting to hurt her parents.
He is not forcing her to marry him.
She is decent too and did not put down any tradition or look down upon her own culture..so both of them should be guided well.
My advise to her is to marry her own community as it will keep her parents happy and she herself is a bit unsure of her feelings for him.
Its not a crime or a sin or shameless to feel love or attachment or a crush on someone.
Its perfectly human.
So stop thinking a woman needs to be taught shame by a man.
Surprised you think that way..usually only violent mindset males think this way...surprising a young man thinks this way ...may be you feel your community is portrayed badly by movies hence it affected you.
Dear Gokul..Ok ma'am I think you're not B. This SOS and pain that we feel is missing... For a brahmin girl these days, for every one guy like me, there will be 1000 people saying the opposite things.
Generally, all girls and guys at and after adolescence will feel love,crush etc. Just a small experiment. Ask that guy how many women in his family have married lower caste/dalit women. I'm guessing they might get enraged even for asking. Yena avanga ushaaru. Avanga veetla solli valapaanga. And please, marriage is NOT a personal affair!! Who said that? Do you need to tie a yellow string to have sex? Theoretically, Marriage is not purely for personal satisfaction, either, IMO.
But if some woman marries in own caste after "loving" someone, just to keep parents happy, I think that's a very ugly thing. They better run away. avalo scene illa. I'm only concerned about overall picture.
(Generous amounts of salt on the wounds if the guy/family are DMK/periyarists. I have seen a few like that. If i/girl's father had imparted the anger/pain of these incidents to the girl, such "love" would be less likely). Intercaste in other castes is taken very seriously. This 'brahmins-dont-do-that' scene pottufying has to go.
I think backward caste is the terms used by the Indian Government to classify communities that are socially or economically disadvantaged.Quote
I onlyadvised Ms Priyanka to marry a Brahmin boy cos its the best for her since she is not sure of her feelings and it will keep parents happy too.
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i agree with that the girl is still hesitant and have dominate edge and we can see this from her first post and her selective answers only to a member of her own caste, that too, after a very long time and after many opinions.
also I agree to mr gokul why it should be a second choice when the first one did not materialise for some reason or other and also agree to his views that it will spoil the dreams of a some young boy.
In my earlier reply (only one reply in this thread) itself I felt that she should have told either the caste of the boy or simply should have told inter caste and why she should say backward caste and that shows her narrow mindedness in caste system.
It may not be so. What indian government say about economically backwardness as other backward class for employment and education and that is not same as TN caste system where it is in different tires and hence she wanted to specify for the understanding of others on which tire he belongs to.I think backward caste is the terms used by the Indian Government to classify communities that are socially or economically disadvantaged.
Technically its not meant to be an insult as far as I know.
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....or simply should have told inter caste and why she should say backward caste and that shows her narrow mindedness in caste system.