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Is the petition justifiable

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I got this petition from Change.Org... I personally feel that allowing Dr Yesudas into Guruvayoor temple is the prerogative/decision of the Dewaswom board of the temple! Why should atheists, marxists and other proselytists of various hues comment on this? If the petitioner wants to ask this question, he can ask the Bhakthas and not everyone and sundry!

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[TD="align: left"] [h=1] The Guruvayoor Devaswom Board: Let 'Yesudas' the Versatile Malayalam Singer Enter The Guruvayoor Temple [/h] [/TD]
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Sudheer Menon
Cochin, Kerala
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[TD="class: yiv8616432592narrative-content, bgcolor: #FFFFFF, align: left"] Yesudas, one of the firm believers of Lord Krishna who has the Bhakthi, Belief and Devotion to Lord Krishna has every right to enter The Temple and see and pray to Lord Krishna of Guruvayoor! Yesudas, our dear Dasettan is a devotee of Ayyappa, Mookambika and other many Gods and a regular visitor of many temples. But why he is not permitted to enter Guruvayoor? Let us all sign this petition and submit it to the Guruvayoor Devaswom Board to allow him to enter the temple.
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I remember reading some years ago - jesudas himself does not want to break the traditions of guruvayur temple. If he wants to, he can follow the advice of the temple dharmakarta (given in a tv interview) - I am only only a custodian of the temple rules; I have no authority to change them. A non hindu can approach and get a certificate that he is a hindu from the arya samaj for and it is accepted by the temple administration.
 
In a democracy (india last I know was one), public places must be open to all. I agree that in a private property the owner has to have the privilege of granting right of entry.
Rules become obsolete, and can and should be changed. The only way to change obsolete rule is through public pressure.
If enough public pressure was not applied South Africa still will be under Apartheid rule, blacks in USA still will be segregated. So clamoring for change is human nature, and denying it without due consideration is wrong.
I do not know if Guruvayoor temple is private or public property.
In my personal opinion, all places of worship is God's place, and we human are only caretakers. So should be open to all (EXCEPT for security reason). This is for all religions.
 
In most cases, Petitions like these have become more of a fashion without any real social intention or effect. Hinduism as a religion allows worship of the almighty god in many forms and ways, but the crux of the matter is faith and belief. A certificate from Aryasamaj or any such acceptable organization can be a form of reiterating the faith of the person concerned and can be accepted. But that is not the only solution. A self declaration of faith and belief by the person concerned to the satisfaction of the custodians of the temple is, in my opinion, more than sufficient to allow believers who may not be born or raised as Hindus.
 
There are hundreds of temples in tamilnadu under government control with the board - only hindus allowed. Puri temple is often in the news and criticized by the liberals for narrow mindedness in not allowing non hindus. Goa churches announced that even christians with shorts and scantily dressed devotees will not be allowed. Jesudas has given concerts in guruvayur temple from the hall provided for this purpose (upanyasams, religious discourses, dances too are held in this hall). A sensible advice is - don't go where you are not wanted - the reasons may be many and not acceptable universal liberals.
 
Struggle is liberation from oppression is worldwide. The Tiananmen Square, Arab Spring, Indian freedom struggle, and many more were successful protest to change the status quo.
If people had listened to such horrible advice:
A sensible advice is - don't go where you are not wanted - the reasons may be many and not acceptable universal liberals.
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There would have been no progress. It might suit this individual as he belongs to the dark ages, but the world does not sit still. Society moves on leaving behind these dinosaurs.
 
krish44 said:
Actions of self styled guardians of Gods are more deadly than wrath of Gods themselves.
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The Administrator is an I.A.S., Officer appointed by the duly elected Government.

Where comes self styled Guardians...????
 
V.Balasubramani said:
Prasad Ji,

Guruvayoorappan temple is administered by Guruvayur Devaswom Board which is a State Government appointed trust.


Source: [[url]www.guruvayurdevaswom.org] - Present Administrative Organisation[/URL]
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Thanks for the information. So it is not a private Temple, so it should be open to all caste members of the Hindu Religion. It may allow people of other religion as has been the practice. I personally feel it should be open to everyone bar none (except for security reason).
 
God does not need any human signed petition to reach His devotee.

God is in direct contact with anyone who is tuned in..the mode of communication does not need a temple.
 
Renukaji,
I understand your point.
But vganeji's op was whether getting a petition is justified.
This is question for the physical world and nor metaphysical world.
 
prasad1 said:
Renukaji,
I understand your point.
But vganeji's op was whether getting a petition is justified.
This is question for the physical world and nor metaphysical world.
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Dear Prasad ji,

Agreed..but does Jesudas really want this petition?

Knowing him I dont think he would like such petitions.

To me I feel a place of worship should have free entry for all.

Some other religions impose rules too like this with restricted entry.

Its sad to see Hinduism following suit.

When Brahman is everything yet humans choose to restrict entry into place of worship.

If a Hindu does not have this understanding in his/her mind his/her whole life is a total waste.

So on technical grounds it's still "who cares" for me.

I am sure you understand what I really mean.
 
Dear Ganesh,

The Devaswom board has to take the decision. And it should be final. There is no need for the petition. Sri. Yesudas

is not a fanatic Xtian and sings in praise of Hindu Gods. So, he needs some special treatment by the Devaswom board.
 
renuka said:
God does not need any human signed petition to reach His devotee.

God is in direct contact with anyone who is tuned in..the mode of communication does not need a temple.
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It is NOT so easy, Renu!

Every temple has its rules. Since Sri. Yesudas comes under special category, the rule could be relaxed by the Devaswom board.
 
My view is that if someone is not Anti Hindu they should be permitted into any Hindu temple.
One should not be required to pledge they follow Hindu religion in order to enter a temple.

There is a need to ensure security precautions are taken but that need not be complicated.
 
Raji Ram said:
Dear Renu,

This 'who cares' attitude only make people think that women can enter the temple with periods!! :lol:
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Dear RR ji,

Yes..you are right.."who cares" is the best attitude.

Actually there is a Tamil word that comes to my mind when I have this 'who cares' feeling.


Its "Ada Pongada Mannagatti Pasangala"..with that in my mind I do what seems right to me!LOL
 
Raji Ram said:
Dear Ganesh,

The Devaswom board has to take the decision. And it should be final. There is no need for the petition. Sri. Yesudas

is not a fanatic Xtian and sings in praise of Hindu Gods. So, he needs some special treatment by the Devaswom board.
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Yes RRji....For special people, there can be special considerations..Dr Yesudas can be an exception to the rule..But let the Dewaswom Board decide that!
 
I feel its rather insulting to Jesudas to be subject to a panel of people who feel he should be allowed to enter the temple.

Why should anyone else decide for him?


I feel everyone should question himself or herself 1st whether God feels they are deemed fit to enter a temple.Being a Hindu is not the only criteria.

This petition is extremely disrespectful I feel.None of us can judge devotion.It seems that the message is "because Jesudas sings Hindu songs and he has proved to be a Bhakta he should be allowed in"
How come others are deciding devotion of another?

Jesudas should speak up for himself and no one else should give reasons as why he should be allowed or disallowed.
 
I like the view that anyone who is not anti hindu should be free to enter a hindu temple.

it is not wise to put restrictions for entering places of worship for those who want to do so

I view with distaste the middle men who take upon themselves to decide who should enter unless it is their private property.

similarly , insisting men should be bare bodied above waist.

I refuse to go near temples which have such restrictions.

when I sometimes go accompanying my wife who is a believer , I stay outside the temple if I find some such diktat which is revolting.
 
Dear Renukaji
RRji has lost her balance after coming to know many TBs hug . she is shattered would be an understatement.

She is now giving up her demand regarding banning topless Mamas .

She might even invite them for get together organised in temples near her place.

do you know some TB girls parents are suggesting informal meeting of boy and his parents with prospective girl and parents at temples instead of homes.

a new trend in match making in chennai.

I understand girls do not like to be paraded before boys as in olden days in their homes

hence this arrangement.
 
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