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hi sir,
india is NOT USA.....dont compare oranges with apples....even im my neibhorhood.....even i forgot to lock my home...
everything is safe....becoz low crime area....
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Lady techie hacked to death in Nungampakkam Railwa station
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india is NOT USA.....dont compare oranges with apples....even im my neibhorhood.....even i forgot to lock my home...
everything is safe....becoz low crime area....
prasad1
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Does TV and movies depict and follow the society or lead the society?
I think they follow the society. So the blame goes to the society for allowing such movies to be made.
By blaming the movies for the ills od society is a cop out, so we can wash our hand of the problems.
I think they follow the society. So the blame goes to the society for allowing such movies to be made.
By blaming the movies for the ills od society is a cop out, so we can wash our hand of the problems.
Our girls are most vulnerable in society...Our community has been at the receiving end for all these atrocities...So far even compensation has not been given to Swathi's parents...We have to take all precautions as parents, brothers and sisters to ensure that our girls are cordoned from unnecessary diversions...Never put our girls in hostels...Get them married at the earliest by 22 years...Let us put them only in Brahmin institutions if we have to protect our community..Let us not use our girls as milching cows for money
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V.Balasubramani
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You are right Sir,
Blaming the Movies and TV serials is of no use.
Partly they depit only what is happening in real life.
Besides, one should know the difference between Theatres and Institutes.
We go the theatre for entertainment mere entertaininment but to Institues to learn.
I think both the Victim as well as the alleged accused are to be blamed for their fate.
தீதும் நன்றும் பிறர்தர வாரா
One Brahmin family at Choolaimedu is observing 10 days mourning for the death of this girl…
And how are we to behave responsibly in this hour of sorrow….especially when most of us all belongs to the same community...
And last but not the least
செத்த பாம்பை மேலும் அடிப்பானேன் ??
I mean the thread.
If members are more interested
Forum can have a lively discussion on 'Who is to blame'
(1) Victim, (2) Alleged accused (3) Society
Let us start the arguments now..............
P.S: Let the thread get more momentum atleast.
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CHANDRU1849
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Girls from our community, especially educated and employed, think freedom of expression, freedom of choice etc. is the order of the day, without giving importance to customs and conventions. One can hope the incident at Nungambakkam will change the mindset.
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V.Balasubramani
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Tbs Ji,
This is to counter your point:
Why this village, including its bank, has no front doors
SHANI SHINGNAPUR: Members of the Gade family proudlyshow off a stash of rupees kept in an unlocked tin barrel in their bedroom,despite their home not having a front door.
In ShaniShingnapur village in Maharashtra, residents see little need for such security,thanks to their belief in special protection from the Hindu deity Shani.
Asfarmers trundle the roads in bullock carts piled high with sugarcane, they passrows of homes bearing empty door frames, a village tradition that goes back forgenerations.
Read more at: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...k-has-no-front-doors/articleshow/45779747.cms
It is real...
Can you cite one bank in USA without front door, lock, burglar alarm, etc, Just kidding...
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mkrishna100
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There is no point in blaming anyone and passing on the blame . The `focus must be on building healthy family relationships ( so that people stop seeking love ,approval and appreciation from others ,outside forces ) and also improving our education system from being just mark producing robots to educating and training them to be more responsible citizens of the society .Only by improving the home and education system can we avoid these sort of incidents in future . Post liberalization there has been lot of degradation in the family values as well in education standards ( we are producing only literate robots and not citizens with social responsibility ) and it is time to strengthen both family and our education system .
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The guys in question is a maniac & no girl whoever he would have fallen for would have been saved..Having said that his parents could have played an important role in curbing his sexploits...They already knew about it..But did nothing about it...I guess the girl did not talk about this chap at home (It is part of our TB upbringing)...Heavens would not have fallen had she talked about this rascal & sought protection
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V.Balasubramani
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துக்கமான மனநிலையிலும் வழக்கு விசாரணைக்கு உதவிய சுவாதி பெற்றோர்: சென்னை கமிஷ்னர்- வீடியோ
By: Jayachitra
http://tamil.oneindia.com/news/tami...oner-appreciates-swathi-s-parents-257302.html
By: Jayachitra
http://tamil.oneindia.com/news/tami...oner-appreciates-swathi-s-parents-257302.html
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Swathi's personality-She was of helping nature....She even cared for the ants...She did not want to expose her stalker as otherwise he would have been punished!
Her caring side was on display during deluge
Swathi waded through water to distribute food packets
A few minutes before she left for work on Friday, S. Swathi spotted a trail of ants in front of her apartment at Choolaimedu. “She paused for a minute and showed us the ants and said that they were going as a family and should not be disrupted,” said her sister S. Nithya, who is yet to overcome the shock of her sister's untimely death.
Describing her sister as sensitive and caring, she said, “During the Chennai floods in December, we waded through deep water to distribute food packets to nearby areas, which were severely affected.” She showed pictures that the family had taken during their volunteering efforts, where Swathi had played a key role.
According to the family, Swathi always left home at 6.30 a.m. and boarded the ladies compartment. “She always occupied the window seat,” said Nithya.
The family was upset the body had not been covered for a long time after the incident at the station. “So many trains would have passed by on both platforms and yet, no one came forward to cover the body up till a senior official arrived at 9 a,m.,” said Swathi’s uncle, K. Govindarajan. “There was a delay at each place with the formalities regarding post-mortem and finally, when Swathi’s body came home, her mother saw the body for less than half an hour,” he added.
The family denied theories about the possible involvement of a private cab driver, who allegedly had a spat with her. “We did have an issue with a cab driver who overcharged us during a temple visit recently. But the issue was escalated to the company and my father spoke to the grievance cell and sorted it out,” Nithya said. Swathi apparently was not involved in that incident.
Swathi did her schooling at Good Shepherd Matriculation Higher Secondary School and then joined Dhanalakshmi College of Engineering where she pursed a course in Computer Science. A company source said, “She joined Infosys in July 2014 at the Mysore campus for her training. She joined the Chennai office (Mahindra World City) in December 2014.” She was a systems engineer at Infosys, a place where, again, she will be missed dearly.
An Infosys official said that an ex-gratia amount was usually given to the kin of employees who had died in accidents, untoward incidents or due to illnesses.
http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities...lay-during-deluge/article8774528.ece#comments
Her caring side was on display during deluge
Swathi waded through water to distribute food packets
A few minutes before she left for work on Friday, S. Swathi spotted a trail of ants in front of her apartment at Choolaimedu. “She paused for a minute and showed us the ants and said that they were going as a family and should not be disrupted,” said her sister S. Nithya, who is yet to overcome the shock of her sister's untimely death.
Describing her sister as sensitive and caring, she said, “During the Chennai floods in December, we waded through deep water to distribute food packets to nearby areas, which were severely affected.” She showed pictures that the family had taken during their volunteering efforts, where Swathi had played a key role.
According to the family, Swathi always left home at 6.30 a.m. and boarded the ladies compartment. “She always occupied the window seat,” said Nithya.
The family was upset the body had not been covered for a long time after the incident at the station. “So many trains would have passed by on both platforms and yet, no one came forward to cover the body up till a senior official arrived at 9 a,m.,” said Swathi’s uncle, K. Govindarajan. “There was a delay at each place with the formalities regarding post-mortem and finally, when Swathi’s body came home, her mother saw the body for less than half an hour,” he added.
The family denied theories about the possible involvement of a private cab driver, who allegedly had a spat with her. “We did have an issue with a cab driver who overcharged us during a temple visit recently. But the issue was escalated to the company and my father spoke to the grievance cell and sorted it out,” Nithya said. Swathi apparently was not involved in that incident.
Swathi did her schooling at Good Shepherd Matriculation Higher Secondary School and then joined Dhanalakshmi College of Engineering where she pursed a course in Computer Science. A company source said, “She joined Infosys in July 2014 at the Mysore campus for her training. She joined the Chennai office (Mahindra World City) in December 2014.” She was a systems engineer at Infosys, a place where, again, she will be missed dearly.
An Infosys official said that an ex-gratia amount was usually given to the kin of employees who had died in accidents, untoward incidents or due to illnesses.
http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities...lay-during-deluge/article8774528.ece#comments
Just happened to see this thread and sharing my thoughts on the opinion raised by some members about tackling the attacker(s).
Street fight/brawl is not an easy thing at all. Even for the untrained; and ordinary people can forget about handling trained assassins (bare hand combat). This is even without considering other physical attributes such as height, weight, strength etc.
The result of a one to one combat by a weaponless trained fighter vs an untrained fighter with a weapon is not always easy to predict. A small cut or puncture can very easily damage a vital organ leaving the other maimed for life. Minds may think fast but unless trained, the body will not react, and even if it reacts, it may not be fast enought to defend.
Moreover, one is not always sure if the attacker is alone, trained or untrained, a mercenary, or whether he has nexus at a higher level. At times, the one who is attacked may survive, but the one who interfered may die, leaving his family helpless.
My advice: If at all you have to defend, evaluate all the above points and think about the risks involved. After that if anybody is well equipped to tackle and intends to do so, then it is better to evade the attacks rather to go on the offensive. Save your skin. RUN, if attacked; this is the best way to escape. A fight should be always the last resort.
Specific for girls: Nowadays, girls take pride in bragging about the number of "applications" they receive from boys. Please be aware that all boys do not see a refusal the same way. Acid attacks, rapes, physical assault are all things that should be evaluated by the girls who think that there are stalkers. Have confidence in the family. Take precautions - such as pepper spray, key chain with a small knife. Most important is to learn some basic skills of combat. This would help to avoid major injuries by using everyday articles such as dupatta, handbag, books etc.
Street fight/brawl is not an easy thing at all. Even for the untrained; and ordinary people can forget about handling trained assassins (bare hand combat). This is even without considering other physical attributes such as height, weight, strength etc.
The result of a one to one combat by a weaponless trained fighter vs an untrained fighter with a weapon is not always easy to predict. A small cut or puncture can very easily damage a vital organ leaving the other maimed for life. Minds may think fast but unless trained, the body will not react, and even if it reacts, it may not be fast enought to defend.
Moreover, one is not always sure if the attacker is alone, trained or untrained, a mercenary, or whether he has nexus at a higher level. At times, the one who is attacked may survive, but the one who interfered may die, leaving his family helpless.
My advice: If at all you have to defend, evaluate all the above points and think about the risks involved. After that if anybody is well equipped to tackle and intends to do so, then it is better to evade the attacks rather to go on the offensive. Save your skin. RUN, if attacked; this is the best way to escape. A fight should be always the last resort.
Specific for girls: Nowadays, girls take pride in bragging about the number of "applications" they receive from boys. Please be aware that all boys do not see a refusal the same way. Acid attacks, rapes, physical assault are all things that should be evaluated by the girls who think that there are stalkers. Have confidence in the family. Take precautions - such as pepper spray, key chain with a small knife. Most important is to learn some basic skills of combat. This would help to avoid major injuries by using everyday articles such as dupatta, handbag, books etc.
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V.Balasubramani
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சுவாதி கொலை: நீதிபதி முன் கொலையாளி ராம்குமார் ஆஜர்
திருநெல்வேலி: சென்னை நுங்கம்பாக்கம் ரயில் நிலையத்தில், மென்பொருள் பொறியாளர் சுவாதி கொலையில் கைது செய்யப்பட்ட ராம்குமார், நெல்லை அரசு மருத்துவமனையில் சிகிச்சை பெற்று வருகிறார். அவர் நெல்லை மாஜிஸ்திரேட் எண்-1 ராமதாஸ் முன்பு ஆஜர்படுத்தப்பட்டார். நீதிபதி மருத்துவமனைக்கு நேரில் வந்து விசாரணை நடத்தினார்.
ராம்குமார் மருத்துவமனையில் அனுமதிக்கப்பட்டுள்ளதை தொடர்ந்து, அங்கு பலத்த பாதுகாப்பு போடப்பட்டுள்ளது. 100க்கும் மேற்பட்ட போலீசார் இரவுபகலாக பாதுகாப்பு பணியில் ஈடுபடுத்தப்பட்டுள்ளனர். ராம்குமாருக்கு மருத்துவமனையில் வழங்கப்படும் உணவு மட்டுமே வழங்கப்படுகின்றன. அங்கு வருபவர்களின் முகவரிகள் குறித்து வைக்கப்பட்டுள்ளன.
Read more at: http://www.dinamalar.com/district_detail.asp?id=1556145
திருநெல்வேலி: சென்னை நுங்கம்பாக்கம் ரயில் நிலையத்தில், மென்பொருள் பொறியாளர் சுவாதி கொலையில் கைது செய்யப்பட்ட ராம்குமார், நெல்லை அரசு மருத்துவமனையில் சிகிச்சை பெற்று வருகிறார். அவர் நெல்லை மாஜிஸ்திரேட் எண்-1 ராமதாஸ் முன்பு ஆஜர்படுத்தப்பட்டார். நீதிபதி மருத்துவமனைக்கு நேரில் வந்து விசாரணை நடத்தினார்.
ராம்குமார் மருத்துவமனையில் அனுமதிக்கப்பட்டுள்ளதை தொடர்ந்து, அங்கு பலத்த பாதுகாப்பு போடப்பட்டுள்ளது. 100க்கும் மேற்பட்ட போலீசார் இரவுபகலாக பாதுகாப்பு பணியில் ஈடுபடுத்தப்பட்டுள்ளனர். ராம்குமாருக்கு மருத்துவமனையில் வழங்கப்படும் உணவு மட்டுமே வழங்கப்படுகின்றன. அங்கு வருபவர்களின் முகவரிகள் குறித்து வைக்கப்பட்டுள்ளன.
Read more at: http://www.dinamalar.com/district_detail.asp?id=1556145
Raji Ram
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Dear Prasad Sir,
You have not seen how the youth in Sing. Chennai behave in public. Each one thinks he is a hero (thanks to the heroes of
some of the movies, with unkempt hair, unshaven face and crooked look. The problem with girls is, chatting with unknown
idiots, just by seeing their names! Most of the guys think that if a girl talks nicely, she is in love wheres the girls think that
guys can easily differentiate between love and friendship. It is NOT so! :sad:
Our young age was much safer because we girls never used to talk freely to our classmates. We knew our limitations.
Please understand that movie makers have some responsibility and should NOT poison the mind of youngsters. :nono:
P.S: In one super hit movie, a 'contract man' rapes a girl and she goes in search of that crook and finally marries him. :faint:
You have not seen how the youth in Sing. Chennai behave in public. Each one thinks he is a hero (thanks to the heroes of
some of the movies, with unkempt hair, unshaven face and crooked look. The problem with girls is, chatting with unknown
idiots, just by seeing their names! Most of the guys think that if a girl talks nicely, she is in love wheres the girls think that
guys can easily differentiate between love and friendship. It is NOT so! :sad:
Our young age was much safer because we girls never used to talk freely to our classmates. We knew our limitations.
Please understand that movie makers have some responsibility and should NOT poison the mind of youngsters. :nono:
P.S: In one super hit movie, a 'contract man' rapes a girl and she goes in search of that crook and finally marries him. :faint:
a few years ago, i was at taj mahal with my family. there was a white family with three teenage daughters. a bunch of men were surrounding the girls, and the father was doing his best to chase them away. the boys were increasingly getting tense, and the situation was such, i am ashamed to say, we quickly left.
though in retrospect, not knowing how to speak hindi, we could not have done much. still we were too scared even to show solidarity with the white family. and no one else did.
the rest of the crowd were just watching and doing nothing.
though in retrospect, not knowing how to speak hindi, we could not have done much. still we were too scared even to show solidarity with the white family. and no one else did.
the rest of the crowd were just watching and doing nothing.
mkrishna100
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Govt of India came out with these sort of Short Video Clips titled "Atithi Devo Bhava" on how we should handle people harrasing foreigners
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ee5Bq_eBlYM0
prasad1
Active member
After my post#175 there were many counterpoints posted. Then subsequent post showed the personal life of Swathi. I hope the members who were postulating in absence of any information on Swathi's or girls in general regret their position.
I agree with vgeneji that girls and for that matter all of us are careful of our surroundings at all the time. But at the same time everyone should be safe in all places. We do have to be some times at some place that is not 100% safe, but we have the right to expect that we will be safe. Mr. K was honest in the situation in Taj. I will be the first to admit that was a prudent decision.
I agree with vgeneji that girls and for that matter all of us are careful of our surroundings at all the time. But at the same time everyone should be safe in all places. We do have to be some times at some place that is not 100% safe, but we have the right to expect that we will be safe. Mr. K was honest in the situation in Taj. I will be the first to admit that was a prudent decision.
In a place like delhi, no one intervenes when girls/women get teased in broad daylight.
most realise the danger in intervention if it is the local goonda or slum lord who is involved.There is real possibility of getting knifed in anyone intervenes.
When one domestic at my place was facing threats from separated husband , the police expressed their inability to protect her.
They advised her to leave the town which she did.
It is wonderful to talk idealistically about law and order. In practical terms, the nexus between slum toughies,politicians and police is such that women from poor class
cannot hope for protection.
most realise the danger in intervention if it is the local goonda or slum lord who is involved.There is real possibility of getting knifed in anyone intervenes.
When one domestic at my place was facing threats from separated husband , the police expressed their inability to protect her.
They advised her to leave the town which she did.
It is wonderful to talk idealistically about law and order. In practical terms, the nexus between slum toughies,politicians and police is such that women from poor class
cannot hope for protection.
Raji Ram
Active member
Not only Delhi; even Chennai is like that.
I wish to share two episodes here:
A few years back, some young guys were teasing some girls in a bus by singing lustful movie songs and I could not tolerate.
When I raised an objection to their behaviour one guy replied, 'bus-la vandhamA, stopping-la iRanginOmannu irukkanum!
indhap police vElai ellAm unakkuth thEvayilla!' Howzaat?
After some days, a man was standing and rubbing against the shoulder of a sitting woman with you-know-which-part. :yuck:
I asked him to move forward but the woman told me to :tape: ! I was really shocked by HER behaviour!
After these episodes I stopped travels by city buses.
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FIVE DECADES AGO, the first thing any girl who had attained puberty would be told by her mother is "not to talk to boys or have anything to do with them any more "
Most girls would be stopped from going to school. The mother and grandmother would watch over the girl with an eagle eye.
The girl though matured would not know anything more than that about sexuality since girls at those time were really innocent. They needed to be guarded and guided properly.
Now the girls take pride in the number of boyfriends they have!
What else can you expect to happen when the fiend of a boy friend
is shown his rightful place rudely by the girl on one fine day!
In fact a married girl was not allowed to talk even to the brothers of her husband!:faint:
If she did - believing that they were like her own brothers - she would be labeled as shameless! :wacko:
Does not matter whether or not we know Hindi/ Bengali/ Gujarathi/Marati!
Smile and Slap are the universal languages which the whole world understands!
One needs courage to stand up to the hooligans.
We believe that as long as we are safe it is alright!
Tolerating evil acts is as bad as encouraging evil acts.
What is the difference between the group of boys surrounding a fair girl
and a group of jackals surrounding a young deer?
prasad1
Active member
Let us take this argument to the extreme, it is a hyperbole, but let us see.
Let us say that to keep girls safe we put them in gilded cage. Yes they will be safe from Jackals(or boys) but at what cost? Is that the future we want for our daughter, or wife? Then again what happens when one crook finds a way to get inside the cage? Then again will she accept the imprisonment as the price for her safety?
What if that women in alone in this world, who will be her jailer? Or is she a bait?
The parents of these sons, boys (goondas) should be held responsible. I will even go to the extent of punishing the parents for raising such monsters. May be that will put the fear in the society.
Unless we can assure the freedom and safety of our daughters, we are not a civilized society and have no reason to exist.
Raji Ram
Active member
Dear Prasad Sir,
There is no use in keeping girls in cages. But they could be taught NOT to chat with unknown idiots, just because they have
a FB account. The boys always think that girls are in love with them once they starts talking to them in a nice manner.
There existed a vice chancellor, who was nick named 'Therup PoRukki' by his students because he used to molest many of
his girl students. This happened decades ago, when girls hesitated to talk to boys. So, at no point of time the girls were safe.
But, the girls get in to more problems by unnecessarily mixing with boys.
There is no use in keeping girls in cages. But they could be taught NOT to chat with unknown idiots, just because they have
a FB account. The boys always think that girls are in love with them once they starts talking to them in a nice manner.
There existed a vice chancellor, who was nick named 'Therup PoRukki' by his students because he used to molest many of
his girl students. This happened decades ago, when girls hesitated to talk to boys. So, at no point of time the girls were safe.
But, the girls get in to more problems by unnecessarily mixing with boys.
tbs
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Forum can have a lively discussion on 'Who is to blame'
(1) Victim, (2) Alleged accused (3) Society
Let us start the arguments now..............
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present day FB and like other social media play key role for victim.....partly victim...partly accused...partly society tooo...
here in this case....i blame all the three.....here i like to add one more person.....generally gal's mother too.....the mother of
gals used to say every stage,,,,,especially TB GALS parents........i heard many times from many parents....
எங்க ஆத்து பொண்ணுக்கு ஒன்னும் தெரியாது....ரொம்ப சாது ....அவளுக்கு ரொம்ப கடவுள் பயந்த ஸ்வபாவம்..
வாயிலே வரல் வெச்ச கடிக்க கூட தெரியாது....this common words....but gals takes advantages of parents too....
the gal knows everything and acting like innocent in home... out side home ,,,,many are culprits...this is my 2 cents...
(1) Victim, (2) Alleged accused (3) Society
Let us start the arguments now..............
hi
present day FB and like other social media play key role for victim.....partly victim...partly accused...partly society tooo...
here in this case....i blame all the three.....here i like to add one more person.....generally gal's mother too.....the mother of
gals used to say every stage,,,,,especially TB GALS parents........i heard many times from many parents....
எங்க ஆத்து பொண்ணுக்கு ஒன்னும் தெரியாது....ரொம்ப சாது ....அவளுக்கு ரொம்ப கடவுள் பயந்த ஸ்வபாவம்..
வாயிலே வரல் வெச்ச கடிக்க கூட தெரியாது....this common words....but gals takes advantages of parents too....
the gal knows everything and acting like innocent in home... out side home ,,,,many are culprits...this is my 2 cents...
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