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Lady techie hacked to death in Nungampakkam Railwa station

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Dear TBS Sir,

Please don't blame this girl. The girls are unable to understand the mindset of some boys and chat freely to them.

It is always better to keep a distance from persons who are strangers. Swathi's case is a lesson to other girls, who

chat innocently with many guys, without knowing their background or real intentions.
Let us pray for her soul to rest in peace. :pray2:
 
Its a murder case..the focus should be on the crime and not the victim.

In day to day life everyone interacts with everyone.

We are not living in isolation.

Some males have high egos and cant take NO for an answer when a girl refuses their advances and their minds go into extreme violent mode.

So I feel the best we can do here is not tarnish the image of the victim.

She deserves some respect...just try to think from her family's point of view.

They would be feeling the lost of their child...the pain she suffered..what were her last thoughts..so at least as considerate human beings we should stop all speculations and just focus on the case to make sure justice is served.

This incident can happen to ANYONE.

Just becos it did NOT happen to our own loved ones or even to our own selves that does not give us the RIGHT to play the blame game.
 
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I have not been reading posts in forum for sometime..reading some posts here I am totally shocked!

Blaming the victim all over again..blaming girls all over again.

Frankly speaking we ourselves interact with each other here...some of us have becoming online friends over the years..we do not really know each other as much.

Yes..this is the risk we all take when interacting with people online..there are hits and misses too.

So when we adults ourselves take risk to interact with each other..can we just try to think from a younger person's point of view?

They view new online friends as fun time interaction.

Yes..there are risk cos we could land up being friends with a psychopath.

Psychopaths are usually having a high IQ but poor social and emotional skills...they can do well in studies too but are always quiet and withdrawn and might seem like quiet good boys but their minds sees the world differently.

Its not about being sex starved....its having their ego bruised..they want to exert some control and cant take rejection.

Some would have faced rejection as a child..may be unstable family..unwanted child..rejected by other females till they reach a breaking point and then an innocent person whom they might not even love at all becomes their victim.

Its not easy to identify a psychopath or even understand his mind.

But seeing some of the posts here blaming girls..calling them wild...getting involved with men ..lesson for girls ...totally without any consideration for the victim and her family reflects an abnormal state of mind.

So how different is blaming the victim verbally different from the act of the psychopath killing her?

He killed her body..some of you are killing her honour.

So who is the psychopath here?
 
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LOLRenukaji we missed you. I felt like a lone ranger trying to save the the dignity of women, victim.
 
LOLRenukaji we missed you. I felt like a lone ranger trying to save the the dignity of women, victim.

Dear Prasad ji,

Nice to read your post.

Even if the victim was a male and killed by a hired killer or even by a jealous female lover or even by a jealous gay lover....I would not want to blame the victim.

Male of Female we need to have respect for the victim.
 
Tbs Ji,

This is to counter your point: :-)

Why this village, including its bank, has no front doors


SHANI SHINGNAPUR: Members of the Gade family proudlyshow off a stash of rupees kept in an unlocked tin barrel in their bedroom,despite their home not having a front door.

In ShaniShingnapur village in Maharashtra, residents see little need for such security,thanks to their belief in special protection from the Hindu deity Shani.

Asfarmers trundle the roads in bullock carts piled high with sugarcane, they passrows of homes bearing empty door frames, a village tradition that goes back forgenerations.


Read more at: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...k-has-no-front-doors/articleshow/45779747.cms


It is real...


Can you cite one bank in USA without front door, lock, burglar alarm, etc, Just kidding...

well it is not real Sanis spiritual policing is a myth!

Even the toilets in the temple vicinity are without doors.!!

https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&r...xsAnemSNMtrcip2wg&sig2=ybBO2jvmgUEQVaKedPNHiA
 
Swathy is killed; Killer is arrested and he admits the killing of Swathy.

H.Raja, the BJP leader in Tamilnadu raises some doubts.

He doubts that the motive for killing.... as stated as of now, appears to be weak.
Why the person who came to Chennai to complete the studies / seeking employment ........ came with a weapon ?
Saying " NO" to his proposal by a newly known girl may not be a sufficient motive to kill.

Now, it is said that the parents of Swathy have been kept in an unknown destination for interrogaion / safety purposes ?
.........safety from the innocent parents of the killer, who are rearing goats in a village near Tenkasi............... if not from whom?

In case, the killer is a hired one, the real person who hired him, would be brought to books by un-knitting the knots and joining all the links together.

Tamilnadu Police would certainly prove the truth, beyond doubt.
 
Swathy is killed; Killer is arrested and he admits the killing of Swathy.

H.Raja, the BJP leader in Tamilnadu raises some doubts.

He doubts that the motive for killing.... as stated as of now, appears to be weak.
Why the person who came to Chennai to complete the studies / seeking employment ........ came with a weapon ?
Saying " NO" to his proposal by a newly known girl may not be a sufficient motive to kill.

Now, it is said that the parents of Swathy have been kept in an unknown destination for interrogaion / safety purposes ?
.........safety from the innocent parents of the killer, who are rearing goats in a village near Tenkasi............... if not from whom?

In case, the killer is a hired one, the real person who hired him, would be brought to books by un-knitting the knots and joining all the links together.

Tamilnadu Police would certainly prove the truth, beyond doubt.
hi

i still have some doubts beyond ramkumar.....its something still fishy....i still have something from other religion.?...

just guess...truth will come...may be 2 0r 3 ppl involved...its not easy in a daytime and public place like railway platform

to do this kind of crime...a lot of gutts required....
 
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Ten persons who resided in the mansion have left after the incident. Who are they? There was no news about them so far.
 
hi

i still have some doubts beyond ramkumar.....its something still fishy....i still have something from other religion.?...

Meenakshipuram from where Ramkumar is became famous in 1981 when lot of dalits got converted to Islam as they were treated badly by the Upper Caste Hindus .
 
Ten persons who resided in the mansion have left after the incident. Who are they? There was no news about them so far.

Does the mansion checks the IDs of the people who stay there and also maintain proper records of the same ? Or do they just allow anyone to come in and go as long as they keep paying the rent properly ?
 
I am sure what Raja speaks makes lot of sense..The wily nily politican who always spews hatred against the current regime has for the first time praised the police for nabbing the culprit! Not sure about his motive too! I guess it is part of a clandestine move to shield the real killers...
 


சுவாதி கொலை வழக்கில் ரகசியம் காக்க முடியாதா? காவல்துறை மீது ஹைகோர்ட் சாடல்

இந்நிலையில், இன்று நீதிபதிகள் நாகமுத்து மற்றும் பாரதிதாசன் ஆகியோர் அடங்கிய பெஞ்ச் மீண்டும், தமிழக அரசுக்கு சரமாரி கேள்விகளை கேட்டது. காவல்துறை தனது விசாரணையை ரகசியமாக மேற்கொள்ள முடியவில்லை என்றும் கோர்ட் கண்டித்தது.

அரசு வழக்கறிஞர் கிருஷ்ணமூர்த்தியிடம் நீதிபதிகள் அடுக்கடுக்காக கேட்ட கேள்விகள் இவைதான்:

சுவாதி கொலை வழக்கில் ராம்குமார்தான் குற்றவாளி என்று காவல்துறை முடிவு செய்தது எப்படி?

நீதிமன்றத்தில் வழக்கு வரும் முன்பே, ராம்குமார் சிகிச்சை பெறும் புகைப்படமும், வாக்குமூலத்தில் கூறிய தகவலும் ஊடகங்களில் வெளியானது எப்படி?

குற்றவியல் நடைமுறைகளை போலீசார் அப்பட்டமாக மீறியுள்ளனர். இது எப்படி நடந்தது? என்பது போன்ற கேள்விகளை நீதிபதிகள் எழுப்பினர். மேலும்,

சுவாதி வழக்கை நீதிமன்றம் நேரடியாக கண்காணிக்காது என்றும் அறிவித்தனர். P


Read more at: http://tamil.oneindia.com/news/tami...urt-slams-police-leaking-investig-257356.html
 
As such the motive for murder made by prosecution is very weak....The murderer is only a pawn!
hi

i feel the same...there are some ppl from other religion like LOVE JIHAD WITH PAPATHI GALS....TB gals are main target for LOVE JIHAD

ppl...
 
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ராம்குமார் மீது தற்கொலை முயற்சி வழக்கு; 7 ஆண்டுகள் வரை சிறை தண்டனை உறுதி

சென்னை
: மென்பொறியாளர் சுவாதி கொலை வழக்கில் கைது செய்யப்பட்ட ராம்குமார் மீது, செங்கோட்டை போலீசார் தற்கொலை முயற்சி வழக்கு பதிவு செய்துள்ளனர். இதன் மூலம் அவனுக்கு கூடுதலாக 3 முதல் 7 ஆண்டுகள் வரை சிறை தண்டனை உறுதியாக கிடைக்கும்.


சுவாதி கொலை:
சென்னை, சூளைமேட்டை சேர்ந்த மென் பொறியாளர் சுவாதி(24) ஜூன், 24ம் தேதி காலை, நுங்கம்பாக்கம் ரயில் நிலையத்தில், கொடூரமாக வெட்டி கொல்லப்பட்டார். இதுதொடர்பாக, தனிப்படை போலீசார், நெல்லை மாவட்டம், செங்கோட்டை அடுத்த, மீனாட்சிபுரத்தில் பதுங்கி இருந்த, ராம்குமார்(24) என்பவனை, ஜூலை, 1ம் தேதி கைது செய்தனர். பிளேடால் கழுத்தை அறுத்து அவன் தற்கொலைக்கு முயன்றதால், நெல்லையில் அறுவை சிகிச்சை செய்யப்பட்டு, ஆம்புலன்ஸ் மூலம், நேற்று சென்னை, ராயப்பேட்டை அரசு மருத்துவமனைக்கு கொண்டு வரப்பட்டான்.

மாஜிஸ்திரேட் விசாரணை:
மருத்துவமனையில் நேரில் வந்த மாஜிஸ்திரேட் கோபிநாத் முன்பு, நுங்கம்பாக்கம் போலீசார் நேற்று அவனை ஆஜர் படுத்தினர். அவனிடம் 20 நிமிடம் மாஜிஸ்திரேட் விசாரணை நடத்தினார்.

இரு வழக்குகள்:

ராம்குமார் மீது நுங்கம்பாக்கம் போலீசார் கொலை வழக்கு பதிவு செய்துள்ளனர். செங்கோட்டை போலீசார், ஐ.பி.சி., 309 கீழ் அவன் மீது தற்கொலை முயற்சி வழக்கு பதிவு செய்துள்ளனர். சென்னை போலீசாரின் விசாரணை முடிந்த பின், செங்கோட்டை அழைத்து வரப்படும் அவன், மீண்டும் கைது செய்யப்பட்டு, கோர்ட்டில் ஆஜர் படுத்தப்படுவான். இதன் மூலம் கொலை வழக்கில் அவனுக்கு கிடைக்கும் தண்டனையுடன், தற்கொலை முயற்சி வழக்கில் கூடுதலாக 3 முதல் 7 ஆண்டுகள் சிறை தண்டனை கிடைப்பது உறுதி.

Read more at: http://www.dinamalar.com/news_detail.asp?id=1557518

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தெரியாமல் கொலை செஞ்சுட்டேன்.. கண்ணீர் விட்டு கதறும் ராம்குமார்

Read more at: http://tamil.oneindia.com/news/tamilnadu/swathi-murder-suspect-ramkumar-tears-his-crime-257398.html
 
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Chennai techie murder: Sister pens open letter

Days after Swathi, an Infosys employee in Chennai was brutally hacked to death at Chennai's Nungambakkam railway station, her sister Nithya has written an open letter to counter the false claims about Swathi that has been doing rounds in the social media.

An employee of IT major Infosys, Swathi was waiting at platform to take the suburban train to reach her work place at Mahindra Tech Park, when a young man, wearing green shirt and black pants, approached her, say sources.

Reports say that the man took out a sickle from a travel bag and stated assaulting her after a few minutes of heated argument. According to eye witnesses, the assailant vanished from the spot before other passengers could intervene.

Swathi was left to bleed to death with several cut injuries on her face and neck on the railway platform, which is frequented by thousands of passengers every day.

Here is the full letter:

Well, I know, I can’t clear or clarify all the speculations raised against Swathi. As her elder sister, I thought I will share some facts about her. She was such a childish, soft-spoken, God fearing, semi-traditional, bubbly and poised girl. She did not step out of the house without reading Sundharakandam, Thadipanjagam and putting Acharyan archadhai in her head (sacred rice). While commuting to the office by train, she regularly listened to Vishnu Sahasaranamam.

As her office is on the way to Singaperumal temple, she often visited Narasimhar temple and also our Acharya Mudaliandan Swamigal in Thirumaligai. While returning home she didn't fail to visit Srinivasa Perumal Temple in Choolaimedu.

Born in Srirangam and raised in Chennai as per the Iyengar traditional values and beliefs, and as a family, we love travelling and have visited many temples, without compromising on tourists’ spots. The last trip with her was to Masinagudi where we got lost in the middle of wilderness and nature.

She loved nature and had done a couple of treks including one to Mukurthi peak. She was very attached to the family, both direct and extended. Her friend’s circle was very limited and didn’t entertain any unnecessary drama.

Having said this, it is really shocking to see the speculation about her. I also request public not to create any new posts in her name or for her as it might add to the existing speculation and confusion with regard to the case.

It would be great if people can stop speculating and start praying for her. All I request is for a permanent solution for such unfortunate incidents to prevent them from recurring. Let us not unnecessarily tarnish the image and the character of the unfortunate departed soul. Let us not allow the #spiritofchennai to die.

For some unknown reason, no one came to her rescue, but let this pass. Going forward, let us take an oath in our own little way to help one another. Also, I want to remind the public that it isn’t only the responsibility of the government or the officials’ duties to safeguard the country and the citizens.

It is everyone's responsibility to take care of ourselves, others and the country. Together we can achieve a lot. I am very sure this incident is going to bring a change in each of us. Proud to be an Indian and always love Chennai. Jai Hind.

Read more at: http://www.sify.com/news/chennai-te...-open-letter-news-national-qg4p9fdgdahbg.html


I hope the members who posted disparaging comments, speculating the charater of the victim will retract and refrain from posting such ugly comments. Let us respect the victims right.
 
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It would be great if people can stop speculating and start praying for her. All I request is for a permanent solution for such unfortunate incidents to prevent them from recurring. Let us not unnecessarily tarnish the image and the character of the unfortunate departed soul. Let us not allow the #spiritofchennai to die.

For some unknown reason, no one came to her rescue, but let this pass. Going forward, let us take an oath in our own little way to help one another. Also, I want to remind the public that it isn’t only the responsibility of the government or the officials’ duties to safeguard the country and the citizens.

It is everyone's responsibility to take care of ourselves, others and the country. Together we can achieve a lot. I am very sure this incident is going to bring a change in each of us. Proud to be an Indian and always love Chennai. Jai Hind.

Read more at: http://www.sify.com/news/chennai-te...-open-letter-news-national-qg4p9fdgdahbg.html


I hope the members who posted disparaging comments, speculating the charater of the victim will retract and refrain from posting such ugly comments. Let us respect the victims right.


This 'Open letter' of her elder sister was already posted in this thread and viewed by members - posting No.104.

Anyway, if reading of this letter repeatedly by the members of this Forum serves its purpose of publication, it is okay.
 
I have not been reading posts in forum for sometime..reading some posts here I am totally shocked!

Blaming the victim all over again..blaming girls all over again.

Frankly speaking we ourselves interact with each other here...some of us have becoming online friends over the years..we do not really know each other as much.

Yes..this is the risk we all take when interacting with people online..there are hits and misses too.

So when we adults ourselves take risk to interact with each other..can we just try to think from a younger person's point of view?

They view new online friends as fun time interaction.

Yes..there are risk cos we could land up being friends with a psychopath.

Psychopaths are usually having a high IQ but poor social and emotional skills...they can do well in studies too but are always quiet and withdrawn and might seem like quiet good boys but their minds sees the world differently.

Its not about being sex starved....its having their ego bruised..they want to exert some control and cant take rejection.

Some would have faced rejection as a child..may be unstable family..unwanted child..rejected by other females till they reach a breaking point and then an innocent person whom they might not even love at all becomes their victim.

Its not easy to identify a psychopath or even understand his mind.

But seeing some of the posts here blaming girls..calling them wild...getting involved with men ..lesson for girls ...totally without any consideration for the victim and her family reflects an abnormal state of mind.

So how different is blaming the victim verbally different from the act of the psychopath killing her?

He killed her body..some of you are killing her honour.

So who is the psychopath here?
Renukaji at her best

Reading her description of psychopaths-I started wondering whether we could fit in with her image of psychopath? High IQ -yes, Good in studies -yes yes,High ego -of

course yes,social graces -no, emotional -? hard skinned ,sex starved-who is not in india? -Of course age wise we are not company to be feared as far as women are

concerned.

The thing about female doctors- they clinically analyse all men putting everything down to some medical disorder.

even online friends are subjects for scrutiny.

why not?

An upvote for her post.
 
Missing links in the murder case

Swathi murder case: Holes remain as police piece together a tale

TNN | Jul 5, 2016, 02.13 AM IST

Chennai: The city police are upbeat that they have solved Swathi murder case by arresting the suspect, P Ramkumar, from his house near Sengottai in Tirunelveli on Friday night.

However, there are many questions that remain unanswered.

Tamil Selvan, a college professor, who witnessed the brutal attack on Swathi on June 24, claimed that he saw the murderer from at least 50ft away on Nungambakkam railway station.

He confirmed to police that the person who slapped Swathi 10 days before she was hacked to death was a different person. Speaking to TOI, Tamil Selvan said, he could identify the dark-complexioned man who attacked Swathi.

Police commissioner T K Rajendran addressing the media on Saturday said, "The killer is one person." When some media people raised the question about the man who slapped Swathi at the station, the top brass of the city police declined to answer.

Another question is about Natesan, the security guard of a private firm, who shared room number 404 with the accused, Ramkumar, at A S Mansion on Eighth Street in Saurashtra Nagar in Choolaimedu.

Natesan is missing. However, a police source said, "Natesan is in police custody and he is one of the key witnesses in Swathi murder."

Why didn't he inform police about the suspect soon after a CCTV footage was released to media showing the accused and also during the door-to-door check? Police have pasted the CCTV grab showing Ramkumar in most of the vantage points in Choolaimedu and Nungambakkam.

On Friday when Ramkumar was nabbed in Sengottai, police sealed the mansion.

Another unanswered question revolves around Surya Prakash.

The name popped up only after Ramkumar spoke to police and doctors at the Tirunelveli Medical College Hospital in Palayamkottai on Sunday.

Ramkumar claimed that he got befriended with Swathi on Facebook after Surya Prakash introduced him to her. Also Surya Prakash approached Swathi on behalf of Ramkumar.

Surya Prakash is no more on Ramkumar's Facebook friend list. Who is Surya Prakash? Why didn't police inquire about him and why Surya Prakash did not approach police soon after the murder?

"We are looking at all angles without leaving any possibilities," police sources said.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...iece-together-a-tale/articleshow/53052826.cms
 
The fact that no one on a crowded platform attempted to help and that people boarded the train even as Swathi lay there bleeding, has raised serious questions about women’s safety in the city.

This article in The Tamil Hindu provides a detailed account of how the police arrested Ram Kumar almost a week after the murder.

According to the report, after the police received a tipoff from the security guard of A.S Mansion, they were able to trace Ram Kumar’s address and alert local police who entered the village in mufti and tracked his movements.

On the day before his capture, Ram Kumar was herding goats in the fields outside the village and went back home at the end of the day. Since the police suspected that he would escape, they waited until late in the night and surrounded the house.

On hearing a dog bark, Ram Kumar’s father saw the police and shouted. Ram Kumar tried to escape but on noticing that the house was surrounded, went back in. When the police broke down the door, they were shocked to find that he had slit his throat with a blade and was bleeding profusely. However since they had alerted the local hospital, he was immediately operated on by ENT experts and is not in danger.

Now that the killer has been apprehended, and facts will become clearer, there is a need to focus on the larger questions – the wild speculations, casting aspersions on “the girl’s character” and what “she may have done to provoke the attacker”, are telling of the larger, more crippling problem in society that can’t be solved with CCTV cameras. Social media has provided a platform for everyone to dispense advice and opinion.

Puthiya Thalaimurai channel interviewed women’s rights activists on the issue.

Many have rightly pointed that despite being educated and working, women are not free from expectations of a patriarchal society to conform to rigid norms of “discipline” and if a victim has failed to meet them, they are blamed for crimes committed against them.

Lakshmi Ramakrishnan, an actor and television personality puts it quite aptly - “a woman’s virtue is over-rated, glorified, that is the basic problem”

Tamil magazine, Nakheeran reported that the Ram Kumar, in his confession to the police, stated that he had known Swathi through a mutual friend and that he had proposed to her five times. “Since she rejected me all five times, I killed her in anger” is what Ram Kumar says.

According to this article by Soumya Natarajan, in the News Minute, Tamil cinema has made stalking an art. Summarising the plot of many-a popular tamil movies, she says “The hero is an aspirational figure, the go-getter who overcomes any number of obstacles to ‘win’ the girl. And many a time, the obstacle on his path is the girl herself who calls him a ‘porukki’ or tells him in no uncertain terms not to follow her around. By the end of the movie, however, all her nays magically turn into a coy yes and everyone goes home happy. True love has won, consent be damned.”

This article in The New Indian Express also quotes several experts, researchers and activists who have blamed warped notions of masculinity on crimes against women. B Jayashree, a social researcher, says that violence has been a definition of masculinity, whether in films or reality. “

Even in a recent movie with a ‘U’ rating, there was a gory scene of an arm being cut off. This culture of glorification of violence and desensitising people to the consequences of it has shaped the current mindset,” she rues.

It is also worth noting that in the five days between the killing and Ram Kumar’s arrest there were several attempts to also bring in communal and casteist colour to the issue.

Janata ka Reporter reported that Ramki, a BJP karyakarta tweeted a gruesome picture of the murdered victim with the caption “Dayling ISIS type beheading of a Hindu IT professional by a Muslim in Chennai.”Among his 11000 twitter followers is Prime Minister Narendra Modi.

The tweet has not been removed, nor has any action been taken against this individual. Prominent film actor Y.G Mahendran also faced the wrath of many when he posted an outrageous theory on facebook that alleged there was subdued reaction to the killing as Swathi is a Brahmin girl.

News7, a tamil news website quoted the actor as saying that although he did not write the post, but had only shared it, he agreed with the views expressed in it. He said that PMK leaders like Amnbumani Ramadass and others did not protest the killing as strongly as they would have, if Swathi was from another caste.

The wild speculations both on Swathi’s conduct, the motive of the killer and the attempts of many to derail the issue had prompted a plea from Swathi’s uncle to refrain from rumour mongering, and instead focus on finding the killer.


Read more at: http://www.sify.com/news/swathi-murder-notes-from-the-tamil-press-news-columns-qhekK0fgiadfe.html
 
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According to this article by Soumya Natarajan, in the News Minute, Tamil cinema has made stalking an art. Summarising the plot of many-a popular tamil movies, she says “The hero is an aspirational figure, the go-getter who overcomes any number of obstacles to ‘win’ the girl. And many a time, the obstacle on his path is the girl herself who calls him a ‘porukki’ or tells him in no uncertain terms not to follow her around. By the end of the movie, however, all her nays magically turn into a coy yes and everyone goes home happy. True love has won, consent be damned.” ........
Hope at least now you understand why I blame the movies and TV 'soaps', for poisoning the minds of youngsters. :evil:
 
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