Marriage of Indian Cricketer Dinesh Karthik

[Raji Ram]

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Most of the brahmin girls are happy to enter another brahmin family, if they are NOT orthodox.

The madi and AchAram followed by the parents of the groom scars the girls, now a days.

Hence they select their soul mates (?!) from other communities. :hug:

BTW, one retired gentleman from my extended family wants to live in a village as an orthodox brahmin and has lot of conflicts with

his wife, who wishes to live in a city. Can a lady divorce at the age of 60 +?? Not possible, right? So she has to 'grin and bear it'!! :sad:

 

[psnarasimhan]

In that case let us not say our community is getting extinct...As it stands our community does not have a life beyond 50 years

Why 50 years. Everything wll be over in about 10 years.However the gentleman who received the wedding invitation may throw some following informations:
Are the close and distant relatives attend the marriage and took part in the feast. WHAT ARE THE FOOD ITEMS SERVED BOTH VEG AND NONVEG. Whether a brahmin purohit conducted the marriage or not.These are some questions some of us may ask

 

[vgane]

Why 50 years. Everything wll be over in about 10 years.However the gentleman who received the wedding invitation may throw some following informations:
Are the close and distant relatives attend the marriage and took part in the feast. WHAT ARE THE FOOD ITEMS SERVED BOTH VEG AND NONVEG. Whether a brahmin purohit conducted the marriage or not.These are some questions some of us may ask

I have attended a couple of them...The purohits are Iyers (as the girl is Iyer)..Only veg food served...But it can be with lots of onion and garlic.....The Marriage is more like a doll marriage..The girl throws away the Thali & Metti after the marriage, in case the groom is a Christian or Muslim...The colorful Bindi on her forehead is replaced by an invisible small bindi

 

[vgane]

The girl throws away the Thali & Metti after the marriage, in case the groom is a Christian or Muslim

Shows how much we have evolved as a community in tolerating nonsense! What is this facade for! Whom are you trying to please by having a Vedic marriage..The question is for both the parents of the girl as well as the hapless girl who is caught in this!

 

[krish44]

Brahmins need not be despondent and scared.

More outside castes will get absorbed in brahmin community by way of marriage.

The offsprings B-NB match will try to be brahmins by marrying brahmins.

Only other communities will lose some to brahmin community because of inter caste marriage.

It is believed Ramanuja absorbed many in brahmin community.

If it is correct , many more are keen to become brahmins if possible.

We can allow conversion to brahmins selectively and aid the process. Why not?

Pl do not take it very seriously It is just an idle thought on a sunday afternoon

 

[psnarasimhan]

Brahmins need not be despondent and scared.

More outside castes will get absorbed in brahmin community by way of marriage.

The offsprings B-NB match will try to be brahmins by marrying brahmins.

Only other communities will lose some to brahmin community because of inter caste marriage.

It is believed Ramanuja absorbed many in brahmin community.

If it is correct , many more are keen to become brahmins if possible.

We can allow conversion to brahmins selectively and aid the process. Why they not?

Pl do not take it very seriously It is just an idle thought on a sunday afternoon

By this way they will definitely force us to eat beef and all other living creatures just like them. Do you want that to happen ?
Instead of converting them to brahmins why should not we ourselves converted to muslims/christians/dalits
(more and more opportunities to dalits nowadays).This is also just an idle thought after having a cup of strong coffee.

 

[krish44]

Syrian christians of kerala,some Goan christians were originally brahmins who got converted. Goan christians are saraswat brahmins who are proud of

their brahmin heritage. They are careful not to marry other christians.

 

[Raji Ram]

Brahmins need not be despondent and scared.

More outside castes will get absorbed in brahmin community by way of marriage.

The offsprings B-NB match will try to be brahmins by marrying brahmins.

Only other communities will lose some to brahmin community because of inter caste marriage. .....

You must be kidding, Krish Sir. When brahmins themselves want to quit the orthodox way of living, how will

offsprings B-NB couple be interested in a brahmin match? Soon B community will be a 'kalakkified' community!

 

[renuka]

Syrian christians of kerala,some Goan christians were originally brahmins who got converted. Goan christians are saraswat brahmins who are proud of

their brahmin heritage. They are careful not to marry other christians.

What is there to be "proud" when they could not maintain their religion? Its not as if they are reciting Om Namah Shivaya or Om Namo Narayana!

This really makes me laugh!LOL

 

[Raji Ram]

Dear Renu,

No need to say 'Namahshiva' or 'Narayana'.

They can sing 'eeshwara allAh thErE nAm' and be happy!

eeshwara allAh tErE nAm

BTW, why Jesus is left behind? :noidea:

 

[Brahmanyan]

What is there to be "proud" when they could not maintain their religion? Its not as if they are reciting Om Namah Shivaya or Om Namo Narayana!

This really makes me laugh!LOL

Doctor,

I feel you are a bit harsh in your comments. I wish you read the book
"Goa, A Daughter's story" by Maria Couto, an excellent first person
account of three generation of Goan brahmin converts. She elaborates
the conditions and compulsions during the invasion of Portuguese in
Goa. Similarly the mass conversion of Parava community in the coastal
Tamil Nadu to Christianity or a few families of Namboothiri Brahmins
in Malabar have their stories to tell.
It is my personal view that no one will be happy to leave his religion or
heritage without some valid reason.

Brahmanyan,
Bangalore.

 

[renuka]

Doctor,

I feel you are a bit harsh in your comments. I wish you read the book
"Goa, A Daughter,s story" by Maria Couto, an excellent first person
account of three generation of Goan brahmin converts. She elaborates
the conditions and compulsions during the invasion of Portuguese in
Goa. Similarly the mass conversion of Parava community in the coastal
Tamil Nadu to Christianity or a few families of Namboothiri Brahmins
in Malabar have their stories to tell.
It is my personal view that no one will be happy to leave his religion or
heritage without some valid reason.

Brahmanyan,
Bangalore.

dear Sir,

I do agree my comment was kind of harsh but at the same time when all the invasions stopped what stopped the converted Brahmins from getting back to Hinduism?

They could have just became Hindus again by discarding their 'forced' religion..why did they stay on as Non Hindus?

How many of those who claim to be Brahmins forced to convert would revert to Hinduism if "invited back" into Hinduism?

I am sure they would fight tooth and nail to maintain their Christian religion.

 

[krish44]

You must be kidding, Krish Sir. When brahmins themselves want to quit the orthodox way of living, how will

offsprings B-NB couple be interested in a brahmin match? Soon B community will be a 'kalakkified' community!

I have observed at close quarters of marriage settlement of offsprings of a brahmin-NB couple and another brahmin -christian couple. In both cases mothers who were

iyengars desired their children -in one case boy and the other case girl to be married into brahmin families.

the boy could not get a brahmin girl inspite of best efforts due to obstinate refusal of brahmin girls and their families to accept him.He married a NB reluctantly The

girl offspring was both good

looking and well educated with a decent job could easily get a brahmin match.

We brahmins do not like arranged matches with children of mixed parentages and reject them outright inspite of the prospective person having a decent education or

job.Caste aversion run deep in most families. By choice not many brahmins specially parents will accept children withNB/IR mix

 

[krish44]

dear Sir,

I do agree my comment was kind of harsh but at the same time when all the invasions stopped what stopped the converted Brahmins from getting back to Hinduism?

They could have just became Hindus again by discarding their 'forced' religion..why did they stay on as Non Hindus?

How many of those who claim to be Brahmins forced to convert would revert to Hinduism if "invited back" into Hinduism?

I am sure they would fight tooth and nail to maintain their Christian religion.

Many goanese christians have the option of portugese citizenship , a passport to living in western countries and US. Most while boasting about brahmin ancestry would

not jeopardise their integration chances with the european community by converting to a hindu religion. It is like the anglo indians -most chose to emigrate to UK or

australia and would prefer not to stay in india

 

[Brahmanyan]

dear Sir,

I do agree my comment was kind of harsh but at the same time when all the invasions stopped what stopped the converted Brahmins from getting back to Hinduism?

They could have just became Hindus again by discarding their 'forced' religion..why did they stay on as Non Hindus?
How many of those who claim to be Brahmins forced to convert would revert to Hinduism if "invited back" into Hinduism?
I am sure they would fight tooth and nail to maintain their Christian religion.

Doctor,

If You put a "why" in the last sentance of your comment you will get the answer. Why they would fight tooth and nail to maintain their Christian religion if they are comfortable with their present religion. Generations have changed, so also attitudes of individuals. Many people in States and Europe follow ISKCON, and other Centres of Yoga etc.
Christian clergy has tried to covert Brahmins in Tamil Nadu, but could not succeed. Life of Rev Fr. Roberto de Nobili who spent many years to propagate Christianity among the Tamils Brahmins will reveal the reasons. I have studied this aspect from his life and written a brief account of the same in my following Blog reveal this truth:
http://brahmanyan.blogspot.in/2014/01/roberto-de-nobili-1577-1656.html
You can see that true seekers of spiritual solace have no religious identity. Truth has no religion.
Best wishes,
Brahmanyan,
Bangalore.

 

[psnarasimhan]

Now this matter has become a laughing stock in our midst. Instead of finding a way ouies of boys t to solve this problem most of the participants want all brahmins to be coverted to either muslims or christians. This is now being done by most of our brahmin girls running after either muslim or christian boys, whereas those fellows are not running after brahmin girls. What special attraction our brahmin girls find with those boys I dont know. From what I have seen during the last 2/3 years most of the girls mothers prefer only these two catagories of boys instead of brahmin or other NB boys,why? Though most of you may not agree with me the best solution to this vexed problem lies not to educate our girls to Engg(IT) but to give them education only upto +2 or upto graduation in arts,science,commerce or teaching(BEd). Then girls with such qualifications will be availabe for our IT boys in large numbers. We may also consider this problem from this angle. If I am wrong you may advance some other viable suggestions.

 

[krish44]

I found some posts on Brahmanyanjis blogspot interesting.

I liked the post on sethusamudram project detailing the real issues.

 

[krish44]

Now this matter has become a laughing stock in our midst. Instead of finding a way ouies of boys t to solve this problem most of the participants want all brahmins to be coverted to either muslims or christians. This is now being done by most of our brahmin girls running after either muslim or christian boys, whereas those fellows are not running after brahmin girls. What special attraction our brahmin girls find with those boys I dont know. From what I have seen during the last 2/3 years most of the girls mothers prefer only these two catagories of boys instead of brahmin or other NB boys,why? Though most of you may not agree with me the best solution to this vexed problem lies not to educate our girls to Engg(IT) but to give them education only upto +2 or upto graduation in arts,science,commerce or teaching(BEd). Then girls with such qualifications will be availabe for our IT boys in large numbers. We may also consider this problem from this angle. If I am wrong you may advance some other viable suggestions.

Brahmin girls are not prepared to fulfill the expectations in form of dowry, observation of rituals[including madi,acharam etc] expected of them ,providing them an

inferior status compared to boys in enjoying a decent life besides practice of a patriarchal mindset in most brahmin families. Most of the girls rebel at the practice of boys not

treating them with sufficient respect and dignity in collusion with his parents. Unless brahmins put their own houses in order , it is worthless to lament the path many girls are choosing

increasingly.It is not that other castes/religions are any better . It is only a hope for a better deal from others that drives them to other castes/religion

 

[psnarasimhan]

Those days are gone.You could see a number advts..from boys side specially. Mentioning 'no expectations' 'jo b optional' etc. Most of the families live in but flats like pegion holes..Most of the boys parents will be happy if a girl come forward to marry their son. They are are also not very particular about all these a charm s. After marriage most of the girls fall in line with their traditional practice showing lot of interest. In such matters.

 

[Vaidyshy]

brahmin brides and their dilemma

Tell me a solution>
1.my two sons,having good qualification, good secured job ,ownig a house and every parameter of brahmin culture Wii prove they are born to traditional brahmin parents yet with a modern approach to wedding and alliance. Their intention to marry a brahmin girl is not fruitful so far because>
A. They are green card holders and want a bride from their native state in USA, one in Portland and the other in Atlanta.
B.The brides may get an employment in my sons native states if they are willing for a change over but good job and good salary is not guaranteed; but can continue to share income with their parents as my sons are aware of the duties to parents whether one is male or female
C.As parents we shall not require our sons income as we are well placed in Chennai for the past 50 years.
D.Girls parents need not spend their savings, but must be caring for their daughter post marriage and should be having a social and financial status, no evil ulterior intention but an honourable expectation.

 

[Brahmanyan]

I found some posts on Brahmanyanjis blogspot interesting.

I liked the post on sethusamudram project detailing the real issues.

Dear Sri Krish,

I am happy that you have gone through my writings in my Blog and find them interesting. My only aim in writing my Blogs is that I should share my knowledge, however little, with others. Similarly I follow many Blogs written by knowledgable persons.
I write my Blogs under Four different catogories, but under the same weblink which is given hereunder.
http://brahmanyan.blogspot.in/
http://brahmanyan.blogspot.in/2009_07_01_archive.html

Thanks for spending your valuable time to read my writings.

Brahmanyan,
Bangalore.

 

[krish44]

Still the basic issue of brahmin girls not preferring a brahmin boy persists.

Where do you think is the problem?

I frankly think girls are being denied the space they expect in a marriage.

Even if they choose a boy from a brahmin family , they would prefer to put up with the boy and not definitely his parents.

If possible they would like to be near her parents for her own convenience or security . They do not mind also going to a different city or country if possible far away

from boys parents. IMHO it would be better if brahmin parents spread the net larger and look for a girl from other communities who can easily adjust with them and

would like to belong to a joint family caring for the parents of the boy as well. Frankly brahminism should not come in the way of finding the right person to fit the

needs of a family

 

[krish44]

Dear Sri Krish,

I am happy that you have gone through my writings in my Blog and find them interesting. My only aim in writing my Blogs is that I should share my knowledge, however little, with others. Similarly I follow many Blogs written by knowledgable persons.
I write my Blogs under Four different catogories, but under the same weblink which is given hereunder.
http://brahmanyan.blogspot.in/

Thanks for spending your valuable time to read my writings.

Brahmanyan,
Bangalore.

Dear Brahmanyanji

I did not know you were an excellent blogger.

I went thru all your temple posts also besides one on Ravana.

I found many interesting and absorbing.

It added a little to my knowledge.

Thanks

Krish44

 

[Brahmanyan]

Dear Brahmanyanji

I did not know you were an excellent blogger.

I went thru all your temple posts also besides one on Ravana.

I found many interesting and absorbing.

It added a little to my knowledge.

Thanks

Krish44

Dear Sri Krish,

I am happy to give the Weblinks for the five Blogs (including one in Tamil) that I write.
Please go through the same and give your feed back.

http://brahmanya.blogspot.in/
http://oldstylus.blogspot.in/
http://brahmanyan-biography.blogspot.in/
http://brahmanyantamil.blogspot.in/
http://brahmanyan.blogspot.in/

Best wishes,
Brahmanyan,
Bangalore.

 

[krish44]

Dear Sri Krish,

I am happy to give the Weblinks for the five Blogs (including one in Tamil) that I write.
Please go through the same and give your feed back.

http://brahmanya.blogspot.in/
http://oldstylus.blogspot.in/
http://brahmanyan-biography.blogspot.in/
http://brahmanyantamil.blogspot.in/
http://brahmanyan.blogspot.in/

Best wishes,
Brahmanyan,
Bangalore.

Bramanyanji

Thanks.

I have opened a treasure box of blogs of an enlightened person who has been a great achiever and has the heart to share his knowledge and experiences with others.

It will keep me engaged for quite sometime.

I shall give my feedback

Regards

Krish44