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Plans to set up crematoriums by caste

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Do we need to have separate crematoriums for each caste...Looks horrendous...Are we going backwards in this?

Times of India 12 Sep'13

JAISALMER: For the dead in the desert town of Jaisalmer, their caste tag lives on. A government agency for urban affairs in the western Rajasthan district has sanctioned separate and clearly marked cremation grounds for different castes and communities.

The Urban Improvement Trust (UIT) in its board meeting on July 10 adopted the proposal for developing 47 new crematoriums and sanctioned Rs 5 crore for the project. The money will be spent as per the requirement of various castes and sub-castes, from across the hierarchy. Some of the 47 groups allocated cremation sites are nai, darji, bhatia, kumhar, puskaran, grahaman, ranvanarajput, maheshwari, soni and jeenagar. The UIT is under the jurisdiction of the state's urban development and housing ministry.

"We have taken this decision as people do not like to take bodies to crematoriums that serve several castes. At times, one caste denies others permission to perform last rites in the crematorium designated for their castes," said UIT chairman Umaid Singh Tanwar. The tender has been proposed and the trust is now waiting for a nod from the state government.

Experts warned such an act by a government agency was a violation of the Constitution. "It is very unfortunate and in complete violation of constitutional norms and scientific temper. When you take birth, unfortunately your caste identity is established. But it is beyond rationality that society can even discriminate a body on the basis the dead person's caste," said Rajiv Gupta, former head of sociology, Rajasthan University.

The stamp of legitimacy provided by the UIT comes just ahead of elections in state and is seen by many as a way to appease voters from all sections in an area which is sparsely populated and winning margins are thin. Defending their stand, officials claimed that it was their public responsibility to cater to the people's demands.

Surprisingly post-death apartheid is not new in the town. There are already cremation grounds for different communities like bissa and maheshwari. Several makeshift grounds have been developed by a few other communities. In fact, after tenders were invited by the UIT through advertisements in local newspapers, public representatives brought to the authorities' notice that three or four communities had been left out. These were later included in the list.

"The practice of cremating people in their respective caste grounds has existed since the time when Jaisalmer was a princely state. Even today, these crematoriums are registered in revenue records and municipal council records. It is old tradition here and there is nothing weird about it," said Tanwar.
 
Ashes to Ashes Dust to Dust,
Even in Death,Caste does not Rust!
 
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Ashes to Ashes Dust to Dust,
Even in Death,Caste does not Rust!


Mam,

Leave alone the Crematorium. Even access to it was denied. When my Dad passed away at my place in the year 2000, though the crematorium was within a couple of KMs distance, we were denied access at a particular street which lies in between and had to cover a long distance to reach the crematorium. I still fail to understand the real reason behind this denial.


With regards:)



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"Isvarah Sarvabhutanam hriddese tishthati"
 
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Mam,

Leave alone the Crematorium. Even access to it was denied. When my Dad passed away at my place in the year 2000, though the crematorium was within a couple of KMs distance, we were denied access at a particular street which lies in between and had to cover a long distance to reach the crematorium. I still fail to understand the real reason behind this denial.


With regards:)



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"Isvarah Sarvabhutanam hriddese tishthati"


Dear Sir,

This is so sad to hear..who denied you access..why was the road blocked??
 
Generally in villages funeral procession is permitted through certain routes only irrespective of caste.This may also be such a case.

Ok I get it now..cos out here..there is no procession..after the ceremony at home..the deceased is placed in a hearse and driven off to the crematorium.

For those who can afford they hire outriders from the police department to drive in front of the hearse to clear off the traffic.
 
Ok I get it now..cos out here..there is no procession..after the ceremony at home..the deceased is placed in a hearse and driven off to the crematorium.For those who can afford they hire outriders from the police department to drive in front of the hearse to clear off the traffic.

Mam,

When the Funeral Van carrying by Dad's body entered into that street, dwelled by a perticular community, a lady of the second house I believe, who spotted this vehicle, immediately raised a hue and cry in high decible. On hearing her cry everydoor in the street opened and they all rushed and gathered in front of the Van. We were redirected to take a different route and were told that the Funeral Van is not supposed to pass through that street. Since we were all in deep grief then and also quite new to that locality, we took the route suggested.

Locals here seems to have an approved route for funeral processions.(Appd. by them alone) I believe.

Hope posting No.5 of Mr. Wrongan is right. 


With regards:) 

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"Isvarah Sarvabhutanam hriddese tishthati"
 
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Mam,When the Funeral Van carrying by Dad's body entered into that street, dwelled by a perticular community, a lady of the second house I believe, who spotted this vehicle, immediately raised a hue and cry in high decible. On hearing her cry everydoor in the street opened and they all rushed and gathered in front of the Van. We were redirected to take a different route and were told that the Funeral Van is not supposed to pass through that street. Since we were all in deep grief then and also quite new to that locality, we took the route suggested. Locals here seems to have an approved route for funeral processions.(Appd. by them alone). With regards -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------"Isvarah Sarvabhutanam hriddese tishthati"

Dear Sir,

This never happens here.

Out here some communities like Chinese have funeral outside their homes for 3 days and only after 3rd day they take the body for burial.

That time the roads in front of the neighbour's houses will be blocked by tents and canopies put up by the relatives with prior permission from local council and all neighbours will comply.

Such things never happen here were people can be inconsiderate of others plight.

For Hindus and Muslims the funeral tents outside the house and blocking road is only for 1 day cos Hindus and Muslims settle the funeral within the same day of death.
 
Mam,

When the Funeral Van carrying by Dad's body entered into that street, dwelled by a perticular community, a lady of the second house I believe, who spotted this vehicle, immediately raised a hue and cry in high decible. On hearing her cry everydoor in the street opened and they all rushed and gathered in front of the Van. We were redirected to take a different route and were told that the Funeral Van is not supposed to pass through that street. Since we were all in deep grief then and also quite new to that locality, we took the route suggested.

Locals here seems to have an approved route for funeral processions.(Appd. by them alone) I believe.

Hope posting No.5 of Mr. Wrongan is right. 


With regards:) 

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"Isvarah Sarvabhutanam hriddese tishthati"

Dear Sir,

Which community was that..I am asking the question because among Hindus of any caste we have not faced any difficulty..
 
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