psychology of rapists

[kkumar29]

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Well said.

K. Kumar

 

[sangom]

The West in general and the U.S. in particular is no slouch when it comes to violence against women and they have a lot to answer for. But, at least, they don’t blame the victim and that is something that West can tell other nations and cultures to adopt.

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Why? Simply because "we do so and hence it must be good for you too and so should be followed!"

Colonial superiority!

 

[prasad1]

Dear Shri Prasad,

I know you live in the US and may at best visit India occasionally.

You are not quite correct when you declare, without any basis, "Indians are far more advanced and emancipated to accept your 14th century views." The reality is very different although, egged on by media hype and strident, so-called women's empowerment notions, many females today, even in India, seem to believe in "minimum cover and maximum exposure". Contrary to what yourself and people of your kind (whom I call our expat gurus) seek to advise us, Indians, there still is a good cross section of women around here who believe that revealing clothes will titillate male minds and some of them may be driven to the extreme of rape. (Kindly see the attached press cutting scan.)

India (and perhaps China) are yet underdeveloped countries and for most menfolk, rape is not any different from sexual intercourse, one in which "he" has his way. Realizing this situation only, our Parliament kept out "marital rape" from out of the purview of the latest legislation, probably. Again, the possibility of misuse of any legal provision by women themselves is also very high and concrete in India. (Please see Ravi's post here.) Even the psychologists do not seem to think that a rapist is a genetic aberration as some of you hold, based on some so-called learned studies (again, see the attachment).

China knows what is good for that country just as the Taliban knew what was good for Afghanistan, some years ago. Let Indians in India be left to fend for themselves.

I will therefore request that the western standards of women's freedom and equality may not be imposed from above on under-developed countries like India, China, etc. You will notice from the attachment that even the avant garde womenfolk, psychologists, etc., here have yet to be completely proselytized to the western ways of thinking on this issue.

Yesterday, I was remarking to someone that the Shannar women fought for their right to cover their breasts once upon a time but now women of all categories are fighting to go almost naked!! Moral of the story — women will always ask for the impossible.

I usually admire your post, I may not agree with it all the time.
I do not appreciate your condescending tone, when you want to contradict any one living in USA.
You have a chip on your shoulder, and hatred towards people living in USA or west in general.
You talk as if you speak for all Indians. I want to tell you that you are wrong. You may know the opinion of a portion of people living in one corner of Kerela, so please do not generalize on that basis. Surprisingly most of the NRI are well versed and well informed about India and Indians. We get to sample a wider audience, and also get a better picture. You are living among the trees in a rain forrest, and are not able to see above the trees, we on the other hand can get the picture of the whole forrest.

Please brush that chip of your shoulder. I know your kids live abroad, but may be you are so strong in your opinion that they can not influence your views.

 

[C RAVI]

Countries like Indian and China has a substantial population that is devoid of any ways and means that can help them accept the Western Wisdom. In Cyber world like this, educated folks with lots and lots of wisdom, in their comforts can talk about cross border cultural transformation and can feel proud to be a highly diplomatic, intellectual, disciplined and fair minded.

The fundamental cultural values of India says that, Women are not Sex Object, They are valued as "Thai Kulam", They are physically intimate with their husband, They alone can keep the cultural values alive, etc..etc... This is in general, though exceptions do exist. MEN who value these would not go around changing from one girl friend to other and have sexual partnership for mutual fun with them. But, still there are many such play boys from good family, education and professional background. Many men who don't go for such bf/gf sexual partnership, go to prostitutes and they are also from all walks of life.

There are hell lots of men from a lower standards who could neither understand and accept Western Wisdom nor could have self dignity and self respect. These are hell lots of MEN who neither can resist themselves from seeing women as Sex Object nor can over rule their sense of sexual wilderness. That is why we come across Men raping a baby girl as young as 3 years, old women as old as 80 years, mentally retarded women, physically challenged women, pregnant women and even a female dead body.


Yes!! Parents, siblings, relatives and even outsiders in India put the blame on the rape victim who are against the girl's choice of wearing exposing costumes or being the girl non considerate towards any other suggestions/advises (like taking a wrong rout, late night roaming etc..etc) . The people who could understand the cultural make up of India and are aware of existence of plenty of Hungry Men of this densely populated, poor and corrupted India would certainly object a girl who chose to wear revealing costumes, opposing the caution given. When such revealing girls are raped, they would be certainly blamed by these folks. Every one knows the basic fact that, a person who does the act forcefully upon other is the culprit and to be legally punished. As such, every one would be against the rapist and would like to see him legally taken to task. The blame on these girls is for not giving considerations to the cautions/advises given to them and this would naturally come from people who cared her.

 

[C RAVI]

There are hell lots of Indians from all the corners of India and from all walks of life who hold the same views as that of Shri Sangom's, that he presented in his post no.73.

Even if there are no single members as NRI's from the western world, Shri Sangom, myself and like minded people would agree unanimously with what Shri Sangom has expressed.

If a person does not have his/her children living in Western World and express the points that Shri Sangom has stated, others would say that he/she is jealous of NRI's living in Western World and deliberately expressing such a view point without being honest to one self for a given topic of debate.

Hardly we can find people accepting or refuting the points with out making such baseless accusations, saying- he is having a chip on the shoulder, he is jealous, he hates people living in America or Western World in general, he is taking on behalf of all Indians, every x, y, z of India as their authenticated preventative considering there exist no other lot who have different view points etc.etc.... So Sad!!

 

[C RAVI]

Why? Simply because "we do so and hence it must be good for you too and so should be followed!"

Colonial superiority!

Exactly!!!!

Take it easy policy. Girls and boys can sleep with any one they "like" as bf/gf and marry any other person. They are even proud to say how many EX boyfriend/Girl friend they have and how experienced they sexually are. A husband/wife is just one among many such EX with only exception to legal wedding and giving birth to a legal child.


Rapist has to be legally punished ONLY because he has attacked her without her consent, otherwise it would have been fine.

 

[sangom]

I usually admire your post, I may not agree with it all the time.
I do not appreciate your condescending tone, when you want to contradict any one living in USA.
You have a chip on your shoulder, and hatred towards people living in USA or west in general.
You talk as if you speak for all Indians. I want to tell you that you are wrong. You may know the opinion of a portion of people living in one corner of Kerela, so please do not generalize on that basis. Surprisingly most of the NRI are well versed and well informed about India and Indians. We get to sample a wider audience, and also get a better picture. You are living among the trees in a rain forrest, and are not able to see above the trees, we on the other hand can get the picture of the whole forrest.

Please brush that chip of your shoulder. I know your kids live abroad, but may be you are so strong in your opinion that they can not influence your views.

Dear Shri Prasad,

By saying "condescending tone", I get the clear impression that my post lacked the humility or inferiority which is mandatory when a native Indian writes to his expatriate counterpart; I agree. And this exactly was what I was trying to convey by my words "colonial superiority" in post #77 above.

Though I have not lived continuously in US or UK, I do get feed back from my sons and have a fairly good idea of what goes on in those countries. I am not speaking for "all Indians", definitely, but, at the same time it is not the case that I am sitting low down under the trees in a rain forest; you definitely get the best picture of the whole "forrest" - and that can only be possible from high above. But, by the same count, your picture will not show the predators lurking in the dark glades of the rain forest, whereas a bushman like myself will definitely know more authentically about the ground realities here.

Leaving my case - an ordinary tabra from the bottom of a rain forest - apart, I had posted the comments of the Kerala High Court judge who gave the judgment in the Suryanelli gangrape incident. All accused except one or two who had "set-up" that girl were released unconditionally and the reason given was that the girl's past history showed her to be a "deviant" person.

Just two days back the Delhi High Court (which, apparently, cannot be below the trees in a rain forest) has advised the police not to go about investigating rape accusations mechanically, assuming that the culprit cannot be blamed:

"The court ordered that copy of its judgement be sent to Delhi Police Commissioner and others so that efforts can be taken to "sensitise" and "train" police officers to conduct probe in such cases with "an open mind without treating the statement of the girl as gospel truth"." (see here)

Hence, it is not only nincompoops like myself who hold that the western norm of "don't blame the victim" may not be applicable to India, but also learned High Court Judges say the same thing. May be, for emancipated people like you, even the High Court Judges of India will be uninformed fellows loitering on treetops in the rain forests and not getting the picture of the whole forest, but it does matter in India, the semi-savage civilization that we are.

I agree that we have the "uppermost crust" of society, itching to hover over the rain forest and to go settle in some civilized land like US or Europe. The womenfolk from such upper crusts are the ones who currently believe in "minimum covering, maximum exposure", some aspects of which are commented by different people in the press cutting (scan) attached to post # 73 above.

Last, but not least, because of our living at ground level, we do get first hand impressions about how teen-aged boys, young men across all sections of the society and the less educated classes of men (those who toil in the fields and factories) view women and women who expose the more-viewable parts of their body. Such women, in their parlance, still come out as very loose moral-ed sluts, with whom "taking a chance" may not be a bad bet. Perhaps such women may not get raped but it will definitely work up many males to the point of raping and that urge may find an outlet with some other woman in helpless circumstances. (Renukaji was referred to as "chema charakku" by a Tamilian immigrant worker in batu caves : an old man sitting in a public transport bus was enjoying the molestation of a foreign woman by others and remarked "ivangaLLaam inge ennatthukku vaaraango!" = why these people come here?)

I do know, for sure, that my agreeing with your pov or vice versa, in this forum, will not at all affect the rape situation in India. But, I felt that the situation in India is not what possibly prevails in US. Let us accept the difference and agree on peaceful coexistence.

 

[Nara]

Why? Simply because "we do so and hence it must be good for you too and so should be followed!"
Colonial superiority!

Dear Sangom, I think you have it backwards, it is like this -- they are right about not blaming the victim, so, let us also not blame the victim because it is the right thing to do. We Tamils believe "எப்பொருள் யார் யார் வாய் கேட்பினும் அப்பொருள் மெய்ப்பொருள் காண்பது அறிவு" no?

Rapist has to be legally punished ONLY because he has attacked her without her consent, otherwise it would have been fine.

Ravi, I am baffled by this statement. Yes, of course, consent is crucial, if there was consent then how could that be rape? The standard in the West is a woman can withdraw consent at any time, even during the love making and the man has to stop (pun word not used).

Cheers!

 

[C RAVI]

Rapist has to be legally punished ONLY because he has attacked her without her consent, otherwise it would have been fine.

Ravi, I am baffled by this statement. Yes, of course, consent is crucial, if there was consent then how could that be rape? The standard in the West is a woman can withdraw consent at any time, even during the love making and the man has to stop (pun word not used).

Cheers!

Shri Nara,

The statement of mine that you have referred to was meant to say that, in West SEX is not an issue BUT off course rape is because it is done without consent of the lady.

There are people with multiple bf/gf, having multiple sex partners, with knowledge of bf/gf or without the knowledge of bf/gf.

And, this is been very much adopted in India and even in almost all the countries.


Yes Sir, during the love making a woman can withdraw consent at any time and a truly loving and caring Man would be sensitive to the feelings of the women with whom he is into love making and stop the actions on his moral obligation/goodness!!. It is quit agreeable.

BUT, what if he is too exited during love making "with mutual consent" and could not control himself to stop right away and could releave her only after reaching his climax? In US, if this happens, do the girls file a police/legal case against the MAN and does the law of the land take actions on the MAN on such a complaint from a lady?

IF YES, police complaints are made on these grounds and legal actions are taken, then all I can say is, such ladies are cruel, crooked or mental and such law makers are dumb!!

 

[sarang]

Julian Assange of wikileaks; he is on the run because his girlfriend changed her mind or was asleep and perhaps high with spirits!

I fail to understand why that lady is not interviewed or not allowed to sell her story for a billion.

IF YES, police complaints are made on these grounds and legal actions are taken, then all I can say is, such ladies are cruel, crooked or mental and such law makers are dumb!!

 

[Nara]

...There are people with multiple bf/gf, having multiple sex partners, with knowledge of bf/gf or without the knowledge of bf/gf.

How many bf/gf one wishes to have is irrelevant to the principle that a victim should not be blamed for an assault. It is baffling to me that this simple concept is so hard to appreciate.

If bf/gf is a really really bad thing, still violence against women is to be condemned without blaming the victim.

If bf/gf is a really really great thing, still, still, violence against women is to be condemned without blaming the victim.

Even if the woman is a prostitute, if the John or the customer beats her up, it is not her fault.

 

[renuka]

Exactly!!!!

Take it easy policy. Girls and boys can sleep with any one they "like" as bf/gf and marry any other person. They are even proud to say how many EX boyfriend/Girl friend they have and how experienced they sexually are. A husband/wife is just one among many such EX with only exception to legal wedding and giving birth to a legal child.


Rapist has to be legally punished ONLY because he has attacked her without her consent, otherwise it would have been fine.

Sexual Promiscuity and Rape are 2 different matters all together.

Sexual Promiscuity with CONSENT is not a CRIME.

Rape is a CRIME.

I wonder why is it so hard for some people to understand this.

 

[tks]

I am kind of surprised as how people who want to be logical are so off in the positions they take.
It occurs to me that this may have to do with the way one is taught to understand the Tamil word - karpu (கற்பு).

A rapist can take that away from a woman without her consent and a woman herself can give it up by being immoral (sleeping with many guys etc).

In the end some people cannot see the difference between the two way of losing கற்பு.

 

[KRS]

Dear Sri TKS Ji,

I am not surprised.

A few folks here do not seem to think that whatever has 'tempted' a male to force himself violently on a female (she has to be ultimately on the receiving end per God's design of the human bodies), without her consent, is justifiable on cultural and 'undeveloped nation' basis.

I am naming names. I am not at all agreeing with sri Sangom Ji and Sri Ravi ji on this.

Sri Sangom Ji, I am sorry, you are viewing this from a paternalistic male pov. Sri C. Ravi Ji, perhaps, you do not understand that a grown up woman can have a choice in her bedroom matters. Please do not confuse it with rape.

I am amused that some other members here also seem not to distinguish between, rape, live-in relationships, homosexuality, IC/IR (both religion and racial) marriages, child sex etc. as all the faces of the same issue.

Westernization!

More these folks speak, more I think how corrupt my mother country is.

Okay, sri Sangom Ji,

If you are serious about this, why don't you open a thread on specifying exactly how the current west is corrupting and 'colonizing' the values in India?

Please open it with facts, not with what you have 'heard' from your sons. Let us have a fair hearing, if you are open to this.

Regards,
KRS

I am kind of surprised as how people who want to be logical are so off in the positions they take.
It occurs to me that this may have to do with the way one is taught to understand the Tamil word - karpu (கற்பு).

A rapist can take that away from a woman without her consent and a woman herself can give it up by being immoral (sleeping with many guys etc).

In the end some people cannot see the difference between the two way of losing கற்பு.

 

[C RAVI]

Sexual Promiscuity and Rape are 2 different matters all together.

Sexual Promiscuity with CONSENT is not a CRIME.

Rape is a CRIME.


I wonder why is it so hard for some people to understand this.

Refer to my reply to Shri Nara in my post no.84, to his similar question to me.

 

[C RAVI]

How many bf/gf one wishes to have is irrelevant to the principle that a victim should not be blamed for an assault. It is baffling to me that this simple concept is so hard to appreciate.

If bf/gf is a really really bad thing, still violence against women is to be condemned without blaming the victim.

If bf/gf is a really really great thing, still, still, violence against women is to be condemned without blaming the victim.

Even if the woman is a prostitute, if the John or the customer beats her up, it is not her fault.

Shri Nara,

You have quoted specific statement of my post, looking into it separately and taken away the gist of my post. And educating me all about Rape.

The statement of mine in post no. 84 that you have exclusively quoted was to further elaborate on my point that, Sex with multiple bf/gf is not an issue for those Western folks and seems anything related to SEX is not a big issue unless its not done without the consent of a female.

The above statement of mine was first posted (quoting Shri Sangoms's statment) stating that, for matters related to SEX in Western World its a "Take it Easy policy" and boy and girl don't mind having multiple sex partners. They are even proud to say how many EX partners they have and how sound their Sexual experience and Expertise is.And that, Marriage is just a legal formalities for the benefits it offers and nothing else. A spouse is as same as any other EX the person have with whom they shared everything.

And all these statements of mine has nothing specifically to do with my stand on blaming the victim in some way or not.

Regarding blaming the victim, I have already posted my stand clearly in my post no.79 - The below is the except for your quick reference.

Yes!! Parents, siblings, relatives and even outsiders in India put the blame on the rape victim who are against the girl's choice of wearing exposing costumes or being the girl non considerate towards any other suggestions/advises (like taking a wrong rout, late night roaming etc..etc) . The people who could understand the cultural make up of India and are aware of existence of plenty of Hungry Men of this densely populated, poor and corrupted India would certainly object a girl who chose to wear revealing costumes, opposing the caution given. When such revealing girls are raped, they would be certainly blamed by these folks. Every one knows the basic fact that, a person who does the act forcefully upon other is the culprit and to be legally punished. As such, every one would be against the rapist and would like to see him legally taken to task. The blame on these girls is for not giving considerations to the cautions/advises given to them and this would naturally come from people who cared her.

 

[renuka]

My statement of mine in post no. 84 that you have exclusively quoted was to further elaborate on my my point that, Sex with multiple bg/gf is not an issue for those Western folks and seems anything related to SEX is not a big issue unless its not done without the consent of a female.

The above statement of mine was first posted (quoting Shri Sangoms's statment) stating that, for matters related to SEX in Western World its a "Take it Easy policy" and boy and girl don't mind having multiple sex partners. They are even proud to say how many EX partners they have and how sound their Sexual experience and Expertise is.And that, Marriage is just a legal formalities for the benefits it offers and nothing else. A spouse is as same as any other EX the person have with whom they shared everything.

If you care to read some western forums about relationships and marriage..you might be actually shocked to know that majority are actually very conservative minded and take their marriage vows seriously.

In fact for them a married person not wearing their wedding band is a serious as how some people view a women not wearing her thali.

They too have their culture and tradition which might differ from ours but that does not mean they are wrong and we are right and vice versa.

Some members here actually fantasize that the West is a "Wild Wild West" as in a "Wild Wild Orgy Party 24/7 365 days a year"

Wake up yaar...I expect better general knowledge.

Sometimes too much fantasy clouds the intellect.


Just for your information...for any human being from the North South East or West...a spouse is never the same as an ex..a spouse is a person whom we chose to marry but an ex was a person whom we did not choose to marry.

 

[sarang]

I adultery is removed as legitimate cause for seeking divorce, then, more couples will not go to court. More the merrier.

The above statement of mine was first posted (quoting Shri Sangoms's statment) stating that, for matters related to SEX in Western World its a "Take it Easy policy" and boy and girl don't mind having multiple sex partners. They are even proud to say how many EX partners they have and how sound their Sexual experience and Expertise is.And that, Marriage is just a legal formalities for the benefits it offers and nothing else. A spouse is as same as any other EX the person have with whom they shared everything.

 

[C RAVI]

I adultery is removed as legitimate cause for seeking divorce, then, more couples will not go to court. More the merrier.

Shri Sarang,


Westerners certainly condemn adultery after marriage as an extra marital affairs and would seek divorce. All I said is, for them sharing physical intimacy long with emotional intimacy with any no of partners is perfectly fine until they get wedded to 1. And a spouse is just as same as EX with only exceptional legal benefits that is offered in a legalized spouse relationship.

 

[sangom]

Dear Sangom, I think you have it backwards, it is like this -- they are right about not blaming the victim, so, let us also not blame the victim because it is the right thing to do. We Tamils believe "எப்பொருள் யார் யார் வாய் கேட்பினும் அப்பொருள் மெய்ப்பொருள் காண்பது அறிவு" no?

Ravi, I am baffled by this statement. Yes, of course, consent is crucial, if there was consent then how could that be rape? The standard in the West is a woman can withdraw consent at any time, even during the love making and the man has to stop (pun word not used).

Cheers!

Dear Shri Nara,

Yesterday, Shri Kunjuppu had posed a very valid query as to why we are not thinking with our own suyabuddhi, நம்மளோடு மூளை எங்கே போச்சு?. This has changed my views on such points and I think there is no point in merely opposing what you and your friends write here, since in India matters go on as usual and are accepted by even the judiciary, so far. Hence I rest my case here.

It is most probably on account of the standard in the west, that our Parliament excluded marital rape from the new law. If this standard were to be brought into force here, in India, I feel it will result in many domestic murders !!

 

[sangom]

Shri Sarang,


Westerners certainly condemn adultery after marriage as an extra marital affairs and would seek divorce. All I said is, for them sharing physical intimacy long with emotional intimacy with any no of partners is perfectly fine until they get wedded to 1. And a spouse is just as same as EX with only exceptional legal benefits that is offered in a legalized spouse relationship.

In short, marriage & divorce is a "home-industry" which may yield fabulous dividends if the woman knows when and where to invest!

That is why many expatriate Indians, in UK particularly, prefer to conduct their wedding in India, I am told.

 

[C RAVI]

In short, marriage & divorce is a "home-industry" which may yield fabulous dividends if the woman knows when and where to invest!

Exactly!!

 

[Nara]

The blame on these girls is for not giving considerations to the cautions/advises given to them and this would naturally come from people who cared her.

This kind of equivocation is unacceptable. To bring up girls and boys to be vigilant is a universal good, whether in India or China, or Sweden. But, blaming the victim after the attack is just not acceptable, it is cruel and inhumane.

Somebody posted that a city China passed an ordinance forbidding girls wearing "hot pants" in city buses. Why blame the girls? Instead of going after the harassers the city tells the girls they are asking for it if they wear short pants. This is just insane.


BTW, victim blaming can be found in US also, but it is not frequent and those who do blame the victim, especially if they are politicians, are routinely and severely chastised. I think even in India most people realize intrinsically that victim should never be blamed. One could see this in the aftermath of the Delhi rape case. However, it seems there is a sizable population, probably from the older generation, who are able to perpetrate this victim blaming nonsense with impunity.

 

[C RAVI]

........ One could see this in the aftermath of the Delhi rape case. However, it seems there is a sizable population, probably from the older generation, who are able to perpetrate this victim blaming nonsense with impunity.

In all my post I have clearly stated that only those rape Victims will be blamed easily who opts to wear exposing costumes indiscriminately. No one blames the victims who are decently dressed and are sensitive towards the ground realities of densely populated, poor and corrupted India.

In the rape case of Nirbhaya only radical groups from politics and some so called local spiritual head blamed her ridiculously in some way. No one else was talking nonsense, blaming the victim.


More over, the blame we are talking about is not just about blaming the rape victim who was insensitively dressed and daringly present in a wrong place at the wrong time, upholding her sense of women rights & freedom BUT also blaming those girls who were molested/teased and been nastily commented upon due to their skimpy dressing.


There is nothing wrong in the ordinances that China has passed, forbidding girls wearing "hot pants' and mini/micro mini skirts. In such a densely populated China, to what extent the police can protect each and every girl? How many rapists in every new case every day has to be prosecuted in the court of law for months together? How many girls can be effectively rescued from being raped across the country, by police? When there are many reasons behind rape incidents, there exist multifold rape incidents in much higher frequency. In such a case, how to at least reduce the menace?


Protection of the people and a safe & peaceful society is what is the need of the hour for the nation and for the Ordinary Citizens. In a densely populated, under developed countries, no amount of law can bring about safety of the women nor can deter the rapists.

Among many of the reasons behind rape and sexual abuses/molestation, wearing skimpy dress is also one of the reasons. It is appreciable that China has identified it correctly and have passed the ordinance successfully for the well being of the public, in their attempt to reduce rape crimes and other sexual abuses

Girls can fight for the Rights to avail Education opportunities, Job opportunities, Scholarship opportunities, Property Sharing, Social recognition etc.etc. The right, liberty and the pressing need to expose her Body can neither be considered as the Top Priorities of women empowerment nor can be considered as the basic needs of the Women, in a developing countries like India and China where there is no dearth of population, poverty and corruption.

All that is needed for a Women in a country is sufficient money for women to buy and wear proper costumes that are not meant to expose her physical beautiful parts that are considered private for them and private between them and their intimate partner.

Women need sense of social responsibilities. They should understand the pressure the Police personal who are also mere humans with family and commitments are facing, chasing behind each rapist, legal proceedings, public outrage etc..etc. They should be sensitive towards poor hungry men who are wandering in any corner of the society and be careful. It's the responsibilities of a women to agree with the Nature's concept of Male-Female attractions and be responsible towards the society at large. It is there responsibility to "not to pose an another reason" for sexual crimes and add fuel to the fire.

As it is tactical commercial advertising, Film Industry and Porn Industry are exposing females as Sexual Object.

 

[Nara]

.... In such a densely populated China, to what extent the police can protect each and every girl? How many rapists in every new case every day has to be prosecuted in the court of law for months together?

Well, if women were running the world I think they would say as many as it takes. What is depressing is not that men in power don't understand, which they don't, it is that they don't care.

Among many of the reasons behind rape and sexual abuses/molestation, wearing skimpy dress is also one of the reasons.

As I noted earlier, in the U.S., and I am sure in many western countries as well, come summer time young women wear really very skimpy clothes, yet, none of the virile young men go into uncontrollable primal urge and violate the skimpily clad women. This includes Indian young men living in the U.S. as well.

It is not about the reasons behind rape, it is not even about the rapists. It is about the cultural forces that find fault with the victims. This is not some benign cultural difference, it is a pernicious cultural rot that must be cut off.

Girls can fight for the Rights to avail Education opportunities, Job opportunities, Scholarship opportunities, Property Sharing, Social recognition etc.etc. The right, liberty and the pressing need to expose her Body can neither be considered as the Top Priorities of women empowerment nor can be considered as the basic needs of the Women, in a developing countries like India and China where there is no dearth of population, poverty and corruption.

This is fresh, telling women what they can fight for and what right they cannot have. If fighting poverty, corruption etc. is of higher priority how about spending less time trying to tell women what they can wear, etc., and go fight for all the other social evils of higher priority. With less time spent on worrying about skimpy clothes there will be more time to fight for social justice.

Women need sense of social responsibilities.

Herein after the post gets depressingly even more offensive, I have to leave it here.

Thankfully, young women are timid no more like their mothers and grandmothers, and most young men see them as equal partners unlike their fathers and grandfathers. Old ideas of telling women to behave and to define for her the limits of her space are waning, the sooner such ideas are completely jettisoned, the better it is for everyone.