Why no Navagraha in Sri Vishnu Temples?

[Vaagmi]

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Please stop proffering unsolicited advice as to which source to be approached for enlightenment and knowledge gathering.

And ironically your question on the Ashwins is right on the money for reasons which you are not aware of. Before asking me to refer to the spurious and non spurious puraNas, let me know if you know that the Ashwins are referred to as ***DONKEYS***** in the Sruti?. If you know the relevant sruthi post it here. If you do not know then ask me and I will post the original verses.

Sruti is too vast for vain persons, notwithstanding your claims of being a Srouthin and silly LOLs. I am not interested in smartha vs. vaishnava veeN-vAdham and polemics. So do not provoke other members unnecessarily.

And also please do not fool yourselves into believing that you are srouthi. A vaishnava is never a full time srouthi.

I let the matter rest here and hope there is not any unnecessary provocation.

stop usurping representation rights of "other members". Who gave you the mandate to speak on their behalf? Speak for yourself and stop with that. Don't cross boundaries.

I only respond when someone attacks/ridicules/misinterprets my faith. Read my posts and you would understand that. I don't bother about schools of thought as long as people keep speaking about their respective faiths. When boundaries are crossed getting offensive becomes a legitimate solution.

Coming to the point of your spurious Puranas I asked a question and you have asked a counter question, an irrelevant one, in an attempt to obfuscate. Tell me straight whether there is a story in your non-spurious, holy, close to your heart Purana detailing how asvin delvtas were born. If you have intellectual honesty please reproduce here faithfully that nauseating story. And explain why you still call that Puranas non-spurious. If asvin devtas are called donkeys I have no problem with that. But you owe me an answer on how they were born and in which Purana the story is narrated.

And until you do that your rantings about part-time srouthis as different from full time srouthis like you who would conveniently alternate between being srouthis and you know what will be discounted liberally

 

[zebra16]

stop usurping representation rights of "other members". Who gave you the mandate to speak on their behalf? Speak for yourself and stop with that. Don't cross boundaries.

I only respond when someone attacks/ridicules/misinterprets my faith. Read my posts and you would understand that. I don't bother about schools of thought as long as people keep speaking about their respective faiths. When boundaries are crossed getting offensive becomes a legitimate solution.

Coming to the point of your spurious Puranas I asked a question and you have asked a counter question, an irrelevant one, in an attempt to obfuscate. Tell me straight whether there is a story in your non-spurious, holy, close to your heart Purana detailing how asvin delvtas were born. If you have intellectual honesty please reproduce here faithfully that nauseating story. And explain why you still call that Puranas non-spurious. If asvin devtas are called donkeys I have no problem with that. But you owe me an answer on how they were born and in which Purana the story is narrated.

And until you do that your rantings about part-time srouthis as different from full time srouthis like you who would conveniently alternate between being srouthis and you know what will be discounted liberally

You are sillier that I thought before. Dont pontificate. If your war of words is with Sangom, he has said that he is an agnostic. Fight on that level. Dont bring this thread to a smartha vs. vaishnava slugfest. There are other AsthAwAns here both smArthas and vaishnavas. I do not want them to feel the hurt because of your silly indiscretions. That gives me the right to speak on behalf of other members.

Dont be delusional. The very sandhyavandanam about which you wrote in the previous threads is a smrithi based originally on Bodhayana sutra. Refer to some serious texts of poorva meemamsa on what constitutes a Sroutha ceremony. It is not your sudarshana homan or krishna jayanthi celebration. or Satya Narayana vratham.

Knowledge of Sruthi is much more than mere Hari Katha.

 

[Janaki Jambunathan]

One of our friend a card holding communist in his 30's Now at 78 is a share or stock holding communist and has built Varahar Temple here !

 

[zebra16]

stop usurping representation rights of "other members". Who gave you the mandate to speak on their behalf? Speak for yourself and stop with that. Don't cross boundaries.

I only respond when someone attacks/ridicules/misinterprets my faith. Read my posts and you would understand that. I don't bother about schools of thought as long as people keep speaking about their respective faiths. When boundaries are crossed getting offensive becomes a legitimate solution.

Coming to the point of your spurious Puranas I asked a question and you have asked a counter question, an irrelevant one, in an attempt to obfuscate. Tell me straight whether there is a story in your non-spurious, holy, close to your heart Purana detailing how asvin delvtas were born. If you have intellectual honesty please reproduce here faithfully that nauseating story. And explain why you still call that Puranas non-spurious. If asvin devtas are called donkeys I have no problem with that. But you owe me an answer on how they were born and in which Purana the story is narrated.

And until you do that your rantings about part-time srouthis as different from full time srouthis like you who would conveniently alternate between being srouthis and you know what will be discounted liberally

As regards the birth of Asvini twins, i source the knowledge from original Sruthi as given in the Rg veda and do not rely on the spurious and non spurious puraNas which you are fond of quoting.

 

[sangom]

As regards the birth of Asvini twins, i source the knowledge from original Sruthi as given in the Rg veda and do not rely on the spurious and non spurious puraNas which you are fond of quoting.

Shri Zebra Sir,

I find the following observation in the book: "The Civilized Demons: The Harappans in RGveda" by Malati J. Shendge" (Abhinav Publications, New Delhi):—

"They are said to have been born separately and in different places. One of them is called a victorious Prince and the other, the son of heaven." (p-331)


One accepted interpretation about the ashwins is that they represent the early light before sunrise and late twilight before sunset. I believe that perhaps the name ashwin and reference to horse, may be because some horse-shaped constellation used to be visible near the horizon before sunrise in that remote past.

The Sruti does not talk about how the aswins were born. The salacious story first appears in vishnu purana III amsa ch.-2. And, Mahabharata, Adi Parva, Ch. 66, states that the aswins were delivered in the antarikṣa or sky. I think vishnupurana is a cornerstone for the edifice of vaishnavam, is it not? How can it be a spurious purana, if so?

 

[Janaki Jambunathan]

There was no "nuance" in my post, nor do I think vaishnavas and smartas, saivas etc., will end up fighting with each other just because of one post in a certain web forum.

Dear

True But there are many reason to start a fight or arguments! For examples no vaishinavate temple is identified with the amman like Meenakshi Temple in Madurai Visalakshi Temple in Kasi . why?

 

[Vaagmi]

You are sillier that I thought before. Dont pontificate. If your war of words is with Sangom, he has said that he is an agnostic. Fight on that level. Dont bring this thread to a smartha vs. vaishnava slugfest. There are other AsthAwAns here both smArthas and vaishnavas. I do not want them to feel the hurt because of your silly indiscretions. That gives me the right to speak on behalf of other members.

Dont be delusional. The very sandhyavandanam about which you wrote in the previous threads is a smrithi based originally on Bodhayana sutra. Refer to some serious texts of poorva meemamsa on what constitutes a Sroutha ceremony. It is not your sudarshana homan or krishna jayanthi celebration. or Satya Narayana vratham.

Knowledge of Sruthi is much more than mere Hari Katha.

No amount of pontification will substitute an answer for my question. I asked you a specific question and give me your answer if you have. I also told you that if you do not have the answer tell me that. I will give the answer in a PM because the story is so sleazy (you know that perhaps) that it can not be told openly here. Then you will understand how great your non-spurious variety of puranas are. You will straightaway give up your belief system and convert immediately perhaps.

No one has given you expressly any right here to speak on their behalf. Please produce your mandate if you have and I will respect that. Till then you can speak only for yourself. Don't ever imagine that you are the repository of all knowledge and power here to pontificate on behalf of everyone.

You have used the word silly. That shows you are angry. LOL. I am amused.

I have my duels with sangom and we settle it among ourselves. We do not need stupid interventions from the self appointed srouthis to settle our differences. We are matured enough.

Read the Bodhayana sutra in original again and be informed.

When did I say all these pujas are purva mimamsa. Srouthi sahib! tell me just this : if you are a srouthi why do you call yourself a smartha and not a srouthi? Simple. I want the answer also to be simple. Don't add words like silly, bully etc., there. They are not the words of sAtvik brahmins here.

I never claimed that knowledge of sruthi is Harikatha. I did not talk about Harikatha either. I was rather asking you a question about the "Hara katha". LOL. You have not answered yet.

 

[Vaagmi]

As regards the birth of Asvini twins, i source the knowledge from original Sruthi as given in the Rg veda and do not rely on the spurious and non spurious puraNas which you are fond of quoting.

<removed unneeded comment> LOL.

 

[Vaagmi]

Shri Zebra Sir,

I find the following observation in the book: "The Civilized Demons: The Harappans in RGveda" by Malati J. Shendge" (Abhinav Publications, New Delhi):—

"They are said to have been born separately and in different places. One of them is called a victorious Prince and the other, the son of heaven." (p-331)


One accepted interpretation about the ashwins is that they represent the early light before sunrise and late twilight before sunset. I believe that perhaps the name ashwin and reference to horse, may be because some horse-shaped constellation used to be visible near the horizon before sunrise in that remote past.

The Sruti does not talk about how the aswins were born. The salacious story first appears in vishnu purana III amsa ch.-2. And, Mahabharata, Adi Parva, Ch. 66, states that the aswins were delivered in the antarikṣa or sky. I think vishnupurana is a cornerstone for the edifice of vaishnavam, is it not? How can it be a spurious purana, if so?

Here is our agent of Western scholastic intelligence which is pure when compared to Indian intelligence which conveniently interprets words as it deems fit and suitable for the occasion. Speak the truth.

 

[sangom]

Here is our agent of Western scholastic intelligence which is pure when compared to Indian intelligence which conveniently interprets words as it deems fit and suitable for the occasion. Speak the truth.

Shri Vaagmi Sirji,

You are free to call me any number of names; I know your defencelessness and abuse is the usual defence for some people! But I do not think I can effectively use that weapon, being a smarta may be the reason, perhaps!

I give below the seven verses relevant to the topic from vishnu purana, book (amsa)-III, chapter-2:
श्री पराशर उवाच

सूर्यस्य पत्नी संज्ञाभूत्तनया विश्वकर्मणः
मनुर्यमो यमी चैव तदपत्यानि वै मुनॆ २

असहंती तु सा भर्तुस्तेजश्छायां युयोज वै
भर्त्तृ सुश्रूषणेरण्यं स्वयं च तपसे ययौ ३

संज्ञेयमित्यथार्कश्च छायायामात्मजत्रयम्
शनैश्चरं मनुं चान्यं तपतीं चाप्यजीजनत् ४

छायासंज्ञा ददौ शापं यमाय कुपिता यदा
तदान्येयमसौ बुद्धिरित्यासीद्यमसूर्ययोः ५

ततॊ विवस्वानाख्यातां तयैवारण्यसंस्थिताम्
सम्मधि दृष्ट्या ददृशे तामश्वां तपसि स्थिताम् ६

वाजिरूपधरः सोथ तस्यां देवावथाश्विनौ
जनयामास रेवंतम् रेतसोम्ते च भास्करः ७

In case you still have doubts, you may compare with the copy of vishnu purana which you may have, or the on-line copy from any vaishnava websites (i am not getting it easily by googling).

Personally, I hold all the puranas as texts which have been altered many times, perhaps, to suit different occasions and different vested interests. Hence, all the puranas can be considered "spurious". The above slokas are from the downloaded copy from Maharishi University.

 

[mkrishna100]

Personally, I hold all the puranas as texts which have been altered many times, perhaps, to suit different occasions and different vested interests. Hence, all the puranas can be considered "spurious". The above slokas are from the downloaded copy from Maharishi University.

Does this also apply to Srimad Bhagavatham?

 

[sangom]

Does this also apply to Srimad Bhagavatham?

I have not done any special enquiry to find out whether Bhagavatham has been altered, interpolated, edited, etc., but, going by the general trend of most puranas, and the fact that bhagavatham is probably a tome composed to publicize the "parakeeya" bhakti of the gaudiya vaishnavism, as may be seen from the stunned query of Parikshit at the end of the rasa-lila narration, where he asks why krishna did such "adharmic" deeds, etc., it is quite possible, I believe, that bhagavatham is also the net result of alterations, additions, etc.

It is a fact that bhagavatham has become a rage, even among smarta brahmins, for reasons which are not very clear, but many gurujis, and even those who can read aloud the text (without knowing the meaning) are earning well, nowadays! I know one (smarta) woman who has attained the status of a revered guru by just conducting sapthahams by the hundreds!! Her financial position has become immensely great - a few crores - from utter poverty in the past. Bhagavatham makes some people financially evolved!

 

[auh]

This was a very informative thread. I read with interest the discussions between Shri KRN and Shri Sangom, and I think Shri KRN had brought in some very valid points with which to refute the current prevelant perceptive knowledge of the scriptures, among the general public.

Thumbs up !

 

[tbs]

I have not done any special enquiry to find out whether Bhagavatham has been altered, interpolated, edited, etc., but, going by the general trend of most puranas, and the fact that bhagavatham is probably a tome composed to publicize the "parakeeya" bhakti of the gaudiya vaishnavism, as may be seen from the stunned query of Parikshit at the end of the rasa-lila narration, where he asks why krishna did such "adharmic" deeds, etc., it is quite possible, I believe, that bhagavatham is also the net result of alterations, additions, etc.

It is a fact that bhagavatham has become a rage, even among smarta brahmins, for reasons which are not very clear, but many gurujis, and even those who can read aloud the text (without knowing the meaning) are earning well, nowadays! I know one (smarta) woman who has attained the status of a revered guru by just conducting sapthahams by the hundreds!! Her financial position has become immensely great - a few crores - from utter poverty in the past. Bhagavatham makes some people financially evolved!

hi

even bhagavatham is altered....one of my friend is doing ph.d in bhagavatham....he says ..many unknown theories are added.....

like some verses...bhakthi dravida dese utpanna....kwachit kwachit.....gurjare nirjaram gataha.....

 

[sarang]

predecessors of western indologists and JNU historians!

hi

even bhagavatham is altered....one of my friend is doing ph.d in bhagavatham....he says ..many unknown theories are added.....

like some verses...bhakthi dravida dese utpanna....kwachit kwachit.....gurjare nirjaram gataha.....

 

[Vaagmi]

hi

even bhagavatham is altered....one of my friend is doing ph.d in bhagavatham....he says ..many unknown theories are added.....

like some verses...bhakthi dravida dese utpanna....kwachit kwachit.....gurjare nirjaram gataha.....

Research methodology involves several steps. There has to be a hypothesis to start with, there have to internal evidences when it is about a text like an itihasa or a purana and there have to external evidences gathered by a careful study of similar contemporary religious literature etc., In India most of the Universities have a poor record in this kind of an intellectual rigour. A peer review is not a must here. For a Guide it is a prestige issue and for a scholar it is fatigue weighing down. Usually theses are voluminous. What is lacking in mass is compensated by volume in a container called references.

In texts like Srimad Bhagavatham the findings can at best be just opinions. Research scholars doing work on such subjects usually look for a Guide from the same sampradhaya and invariably the paper gets passed. We are unable to get the views of any other religionists also because they would invariably suggest " why bother about horizontal, vertical, U or Y mark. There is a beautiful + mark available. It has both horizontal and vertical lines and is beautiful. Take it. As a bonus you will get US Dollars also".

I take a Phd. from certain universities here with a liberal discount factor for this reason.

Religious literatures are to be just accepted for what they are or to kept away. There is no use trying to prove anything there or disproving either. There is wisdom in them for those who want to pick them and use them for thinking and reaching their conclusions.

1.Srimad Bhagavatham has been interpolated, edited, plagiarised, manipulated, completely recast etc.,

2.Vedas have been similarly altered several times.

3.Upanishads are also altered. They have been written by others who are not the known authors as claimed.

Any one who makes these three statements is one who is just interested in cynicism of the worst kind. His only aim is to undermine everything that is presented before him. It is like my unique neighbour Maamaa who answered me when I asked him to open a conversation, hello how are you. His reply was "If I am fine, what? If I am not fine , then what? why do you want to know? How is it important for you?". This is cynicism at its best. We have such people here.

 

[sarang]

there was some discussions on 300 versions of ramayana meticulously catalogued by one ramanujam whose book was removed from delhi university one or two years ago. all sorts of relationships between rama, sita, ravana, dasaratha were tossed and the dissecting gang was salivating all sorts of theories. what is worse hindu hating indologists from west universities, like witzel, wendy and mulla preachers like zakir naik are touted as authorities. these are getting exposed and are getting their due.

 

[Janaki Jambunathan]

There is no Navagrha in Vaishnavite temples. OK. But the vaishnavites can be seen in huge numbers in the Navagrha Temples in Thanjavur Dist.!

 

[Janaki Jambunathan]

There is no Navagrha in Vaishnavite temples. OK. But the vaishnavites can be seen in huge numbers in the Navagrha Temples in Thanjavur Dist.!

But hardly seen among Ayyappa though parented by Vishnu and in Sankarankoil where it is half Narayanan & half sankaran!

 

[P.J.]

Navagraham in SriVaishnavam

Navagraham in SriVaishnavam


Sri Vaishnavas never considers Nava grahas as moorthies to be worshiped. They surely respects them, and there is no doubt about that. But never worships them. They worships only Srimannarayana for all their requirements and that is all (Saranagathi/prapatti). Nava Grahas serve to Lord SrimanNarayana always. And they take the dust of the Srivaishnava devotees to their head. This can be read from the sloka of Lord Venkateswara’s Suprabhabhatam :

SuryEndhu Bhouma Budha Vaakpati Kaavya souri
SvarbhAnu kEtu dvishat parishat pradhAnaa:
tvadhAsa dAsa charamAvati dhAsa dhAsA:
SrI VenkatAchalapatE ! Tava SuprabhAtam

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Meaning : The main deities of the Assembly of Gods ,the (nine planets)- Sun(surya) , Moon(indhu), Mars (bhOma/Angaraka), Mercury(Budha), Jupiter(vaakpati/Brhaspati), Venus(Sukra), Saturn(Sani), Rahu and Ketu – remain (happy) to be the servants of the last grade of servants of the servants of Thy (Lord’s) servant -(They remain most obedient to Thee.) Lord of Venkatachala! May it be an auspicious dawn to Thee!



Azhwars sang in praise of Lord Maha Vishnu only and not on any Navagraha. (Where as Kolaru Pathigam was composed by Thirugnyaana Sambandhar and thus Sivan temples have Navagraha Sannithis.)



Vishnu temples are constructed based on Vaikanasa and Pancharatra Agamas. Navagraha shrine inside a Vishnu temple is not provided in these Agamas.



Lord Vishnu appears in this world through different grahas to bestow on living beings the results of their karmas or action. Says brihat parasara hora sastra (chapter 2, 3[SUP]rd[/SUP] verses)

अवताराण्यनेकानि ह्यजस्य परमात्मनः।
जीवानां कर्मफलदो ग्रहरूपी जनार्दनः॥


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[Among 18 sages like surya,brahma,vasista,parasara,kashyapa etc, the creators of astrology, the sage parasara is only one whose voluminous work Brihat Parasara Hora Sastra is available today and recognised by all]
Each of these grahas are having one incarnation of Lord as their in-dweller. So if one worships that avathara, the particular graham santhi is done and planets associated with them is given in the Brihat Parashara Hora Shastra, chapter 2, verses 5-7

रामोऽवतारः सूर्यस्य चन्द्रस्य यदुनायकः ।
नृसिंहो भूमिपुत्रस्य बुद्धः सोमसुतस्य च॥
वामनो विबुधेज्यस्य भार्गवो भर्गवस्य च ।
कूर्मो भास्करपुत्रस्य सैंहिकेयस्य सूकरः ॥
केतोर्मीनावतारश्च ये चान्ये तेऽपि खेटजाः ।
परात्मांशोऽधिको येषु ते सर्वे खेचराभिधाः ॥
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Here are the details:

• Surya – Rama Incarnation , so you can worship in any Rama temple for that santhi. NAMO BHAGAVATE RAMACHANDRAYA
• chandra – Krishna is indweller, so you can offer your pujas to Krishna in any temple. NAMO BHAGAVATE VASUDEVAYA
• Kuja – Nrusimha incarnation, you can offer your prayers there. NAMO BHAGAVATE NARASIMHAYA
• budha – budha also signifies Vishnu, it is recommended to worship Lord Vishnu directly.(some quote as kalki and suggest Lord Venkateswara as Kalow Venkatanayakaha). NAMO BHAGAVATE VASUDEVAYA
• Bruhaspathi – Sri Vamana incarnation, you can choose a Vamana’s temple. NAMO BHAGAVATE TRIVIKRAMAYA
• Sukra – Parasurama incarnation is indweller. It is not recommended by the parampara to use the name/worship ‘Parashurama’ directly. So you can worship goddess Lakshmi and can chant NAMO BHAGAVATE HRISHIKESHAYA
• Sani – Kurma Incarnation. You have only one temple in Andhra Pradesh in Srikakulam Dist., Srikurmam is the place. NAMO BHAGAVATE AKUPARAYA
• Rahu – Varaha incarnation, You can have the pujas there with Him. NAMO BHAGAVATE SHRIVARAHAYA
• Kethu – Mathsya incarnation. You can worship Him for that santhi. NAMO BHAGAVATE MAHAMATSYAYA

Apart from the above there are many of the Vaishnava temples are also associated with nava graha parihara sthalam


Following is the list of temples located around Kumbakonam and Tanjavur that are associated with these grahas

• Sun (suryan) : Sri Sarangapani temple (Thirukudanthai-Kumbakonam)

• Moon (chandran): Sri Naadan Kovil (Thirunandipura vinnagaram)

• Mars (sevvai): Nachiyaar Kovil (Thirunaraiyur)

• Mercury (budan): Valvil Ramar Kovil (Thirupullamboothangudi)

• Jupiter(guru): Andallakummaiyyan (Thiruaadhanoor)

• Venus (shukran): Kolavilli Ramar kovil (Thiruvelliyankudi)

• Saturn (sani) : Oppiliappan Kovil (Thiruvinnagaram)

• Dragon’s tail (rahu): Gajendra Varadan kovil (Thirukavithalam)

• Dragon’s head (kethu): Jagat Rakshakan kovil (Thirukudaloor)

Following is the list of temples located near Tirunelveli that are associated with these grahas

Sun (suryan) : Sri Vaikuntha natha perumal (Srivaikundam)
Moon (chandran): Sri Vijayaasana perumal temple (Thiru Varagunamangai)
Mars (sevvai): Sri Vaaitha Maanitha perumal temple (Thirukolur)
Mercury (budan): Sri Kaisana vendhar perumal temple (Thirupulingudi)
Jupiter(guru): Sri Aadinathar temple (Alwar Thirunagari)
Venus (shukran): Sri Makara Nedunkuzhaikkadan perumal temple (Ten Tirupperai)
Saturn (sani) : Srinivasa perumal temple, Perungulam
Dragon’s tail (rahu): Sri Aravinda Lochanar perumal temple (Erattai Tirupathi)
Dragon’s head (kethu): Sri Devapiran perumal temple (Erattai Tirupathi)

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Apart from above stalam there are many more divyadevasams which associated with different grahas.


Srirangam, first of all divyadesam is considered as sukra Kshetram. For delayed marriage, difficulty in married life with life partner or misunderstandings between couples, to get all comforts in life, a visit to Srirangam and offer prayers to Lord sriranganathar and sriranganayaki thayar on Friday is good as it removes Sukra dosham.

Jupiter(guru) is connected to Kanchi and Sri Varadar (Varadharaja swamy of Athigiri Kshetram – Kanchipuram known also as Kancheevaram) sthalam. Those who want to get the grace of Guru must visit Kanchipuram (Kanjeevaram) on Thursday and surrender to their Acharyar for his divine blessings.



Lord Srinivasar of Tirumala is associated with Sani Graha. Those horoscopes afflicted by Sun-Sani Mutual aspect, if Sani is adverse to Lagna, and not well placed with Sani Dasa running, a visit to Tirumala on Saturday preferably in Purattasi and on kaisika Dvadasi day to worship Ugra Srinivasar with Prayaga Chakra in hand with his consorts when he is taken out on procession before Sun rise in wee hours would help them overcome difficulties. (some also opine that Lord srinivasa is also associated with moon(chandran), so can pray him on Mondays to get rid of effects of afflicted moon)


Thirumalirumcholai is considered as the kshetram of chandran. This Kshetram itself is the Sthalam for chandran to worship and do pariharams.Those worship lord azhagar will feel the happiness as lord Krishna enters in their mind and will grace them.


Srivilliputtur – Sthalam for chevvai (kujan / mars). This kshetram is Chevvai Parihaara sthalam. Also Thiruvellikeni Sri Parthasarathy perumal Kovil is also said to be Angaraka Sthalam.


Thirukkannapuram Sri Sowriraaja Perumal is worshiped by those who has afflicted mercury(budhan) in their horoscopes.


Melkote ThiruNarayana Perumal is associated with Kethu graham and its pariharam.


Thiruchenkunoor, Thirukkadittaanam, Thiruppuliyur, Thiruvaaranvilai, Thiruvanvandur, Thiruvanantapuram of malanaadu divyadesams can be associated as rahu-kethu sthalams



Thiru Sirupuliyurtemple is of special significance for relief from Naaga Dosha and Kaala Sarpa Dosha


Sri Adikesava Perumal Temple, Sriperumbudur – Those facing adverse aspects of Rahu and Ketu planets and those facing delays in marriage due to Kalasarpa dosha in whose horoscopes, pray here for relief.

Swami Ramanujar represents the divine serpent Adisesha, those afflicted by the adverse effects of the snake planets Rahu-Kethu and facing Kalasarpa effects , worship here for relief. They spill the water of the Ananthasaras theertha on their head, perform Kshira(milk) abishek to Sri Ramanuja and light ghee lamps.



Thiruvidanthai Nithya Kalyana Perumal no doubt varaprasadi for unmarried people and so was the Uraiyur sthalam


Naachiyaar Koyil Tirunaraiyur Nambi in the Kalyana kolam with Vanchulavalli Thayar is also parihara stalam for Unmarried and also Kal Garudan seen with nine serpents is believed to have the powers to remove the Navagraha Dosham.


Thiruchireevaramangai(Vanamaamalai) , Thirupputkuzhi are must visit places for childless couples


Thiruvallur VaidhyaVerraraghava Perumal , as his name says cures any health problems.


Thirukadigai (Sholingar) Yoga Narasimha swamy,cure all mental illness


Thiruvahendrapuram Hayagreevar , who removes all obstacle in education.


The above are just a drop of information in big Ocean.



So, we can just recite Sri Vishnu Sahasranama Stotram regularly for all nava grahas as it includes Lord’s all avatharas. We can also recite Dasavatara Sthothram.



In one of the article V.Sadagopan swamy guides us to recitate the 749[SUP]th[/SUP] slokam (given below) of Sri RanganAtha PaadukA Sahasram which will result in Navagraha DevatA PrasAdam.

Also swamy say to follow any one of the below things for bhakthAs seeking progeny who have Sarpa DhOsham to be blessed with SanthAna PrApthi at the right stage in their lives:

• (1) Go to one’s AchAryan and pray to Him for Phala ManthrAkshathai for SanthAna PrApthi after performing Sethu SnAnam
• (2) Go to SrI RanganAthA’s Sannidhi at SrIrangam and recite the 10 slOkams of Sesha Paddhathi for a MaNDalam and receive Periya perumAL’s and ThAyAr’s SaThAri, Theertham every day with one’s wife.

A similar PaarAyaNam can also be done before Lord DevanAthan at the dhivya desam of ThiruvahIndhrapuram. ( Lord DevanAthan chose the name of ThiruvahIndhrapuram (AdhisEshapuram) for His dhivya desam in recognition of the great Kaimkaryam done by AdhisEshan here for Him.)

NaaL yenna seyyum kOL yenna seyyum Yennappan ThALL paRRinARkku.

meaning: What troubles can the nakashathrams, Thithis and Grahams cause for one, who attaches Himself firmly & solely to the Feet of the Lord and the SaThAri there?

Navagraham in SriVaishnavam - Anudinam.org


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[Janaki Jambunathan]

Navagraham in SriVaishnavam


Sri Vaishnavas never considers Nava grahas as moorthies to be worshiped. They surely respects them, and there is no doubt about that. But never worships them. They worships only Srimannarayana for all their requirements and that is all (Saranagathi/prapatti). Nava Grahas serve to Lord SrimanNarayana always. And they take the dust of the Srivaishnava devotees to their head. This can be read from the sloka of Lord Venkateswara’s Suprabhabhatam :

SuryEndhu Bhouma Budha Vaakpati Kaavya souri
SvarbhAnu kEtu dvishat parishat pradhAnaa:
tvadhAsa dAsa charamAvati dhAsa dhAsA:
SrI VenkatAchalapatE ! Tava SuprabhAtam

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Meaning : The main deities of the Assembly of Gods ,the (nine planets)- Sun(surya) , Moon(indhu), Mars (bhOma/Angaraka), Mercury(Budha), Jupiter(vaakpati/Brhaspati), Venus(Sukra), Saturn(Sani), Rahu and Ketu – remain (happy) to be the servants of the last grade of servants of the servants of Thy (Lord’s) servant -(They remain most obedient to Thee.) Lord of Venkatachala! May it be an auspicious dawn to Thee!



Azhwars sang in praise of Lord Maha Vishnu only and not on any Navagraha. (Where as Kolaru Pathigam was composed by Thirugnyaana Sambandhar and thus Sivan temples have Navagraha Sannithis.)



Vishnu temples are constructed based on Vaikanasa and Pancharatra Agamas. Navagraha shrine inside a Vishnu temple is not provided in these Agamas.



Lord Vishnu appears in this world through different grahas to bestow on living beings the results of their karmas or action. Says brihat parasara hora sastra (chapter 2, 3[SUP]rd[/SUP] verses)

अवताराण्यनेकानि ह्यजस्य परमात्मनः।
जीवानां कर्मफलदो ग्रहरूपी जनार्दनः॥


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[Among 18 sages like surya,brahma,vasista,parasara,kashyapa etc, the creators of astrology, the sage parasara is only one whose voluminous work Brihat Parasara Hora Sastra is available today and recognised by all]
Each of these grahas are having one incarnation of Lord as their in-dweller. So if one worships that avathara, the particular graham santhi is done and planets associated with them is given in the Brihat Parashara Hora Shastra, chapter 2, verses 5-7

रामोऽवतारः सूर्यस्य चन्द्रस्य यदुनायकः ।
नृसिंहो भूमिपुत्रस्य बुद्धः सोमसुतस्य च॥
वामनो विबुधेज्यस्य भार्गवो भर्गवस्य च ।
कूर्मो भास्करपुत्रस्य सैंहिकेयस्य सूकरः ॥
केतोर्मीनावतारश्च ये चान्ये तेऽपि खेटजाः ।
परात्मांशोऽधिको येषु ते सर्वे खेचराभिधाः ॥
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Here are the details:

• Surya – Rama Incarnation , so you can worship in any Rama temple for that santhi. NAMO BHAGAVATE RAMACHANDRAYA
• chandra – Krishna is indweller, so you can offer your pujas to Krishna in any temple. NAMO BHAGAVATE VASUDEVAYA
• Kuja – Nrusimha incarnation, you can offer your prayers there. NAMO BHAGAVATE NARASIMHAYA
• budha – budha also signifies Vishnu, it is recommended to worship Lord Vishnu directly.(some quote as kalki and suggest Lord Venkateswara as Kalow Venkatanayakaha). NAMO BHAGAVATE VASUDEVAYA
• Bruhaspathi – Sri Vamana incarnation, you can choose a Vamana’s temple. NAMO BHAGAVATE TRIVIKRAMAYA
• Sukra – Parasurama incarnation is indweller. It is not recommended by the parampara to use the name/worship ‘Parashurama’ directly. So you can worship goddess Lakshmi and can chant NAMO BHAGAVATE HRISHIKESHAYA
• Sani – Kurma Incarnation. You have only one temple in Andhra Pradesh in Srikakulam Dist., Srikurmam is the place. NAMO BHAGAVATE AKUPARAYA
• Rahu – Varaha incarnation, You can have the pujas there with Him. NAMO BHAGAVATE SHRIVARAHAYA
• Kethu – Mathsya incarnation. You can worship Him for that santhi. NAMO BHAGAVATE MAHAMATSYAYA

Apart from the above there are many of the Vaishnava temples are also associated with nava graha parihara sthalam


Following is the list of temples located around Kumbakonam and Tanjavur that are associated with these grahas

• Sun (suryan) : Sri Sarangapani temple (Thirukudanthai-Kumbakonam)

• Moon (chandran): Sri Naadan Kovil (Thirunandipura vinnagaram)

• Mars (sevvai): Nachiyaar Kovil (Thirunaraiyur)

• Mercury (budan): Valvil Ramar Kovil (Thirupullamboothangudi)

• Jupiter(guru): Andallakummaiyyan (Thiruaadhanoor)

• Venus (shukran): Kolavilli Ramar kovil (Thiruvelliyankudi)

• Saturn (sani) : Oppiliappan Kovil (Thiruvinnagaram)

• Dragon’s tail (rahu): Gajendra Varadan kovil (Thirukavithalam)

• Dragon’s head (kethu): Jagat Rakshakan kovil (Thirukudaloor)

Following is the list of temples located near Tirunelveli that are associated with these grahas

Sun (suryan) : Sri Vaikuntha natha perumal (Srivaikundam)
Moon (chandran): Sri Vijayaasana perumal temple (Thiru Varagunamangai)
Mars (sevvai): Sri Vaaitha Maanitha perumal temple (Thirukolur)
Mercury (budan): Sri Kaisana vendhar perumal temple (Thirupulingudi)
Jupiter(guru): Sri Aadinathar temple (Alwar Thirunagari)
Venus (shukran): Sri Makara Nedunkuzhaikkadan perumal temple (Ten Tirupperai)
Saturn (sani) : Srinivasa perumal temple, Perungulam
Dragon’s tail (rahu): Sri Aravinda Lochanar perumal temple (Erattai Tirupathi)
Dragon’s head (kethu): Sri Devapiran perumal temple (Erattai Tirupathi)

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Apart from above stalam there are many more divyadevasams which associated with different grahas.


Srirangam, first of all divyadesam is considered as sukra Kshetram. For delayed marriage, difficulty in married life with life partner or misunderstandings between couples, to get all comforts in life, a visit to Srirangam and offer prayers to Lord sriranganathar and sriranganayaki thayar on Friday is good as it removes Sukra dosham.

Jupiter(guru) is connected to Kanchi and Sri Varadar (Varadharaja swamy of Athigiri Kshetram – Kanchipuram known also as Kancheevaram) sthalam. Those who want to get the grace of Guru must visit Kanchipuram (Kanjeevaram) on Thursday and surrender to their Acharyar for his divine blessings.



Lord Srinivasar of Tirumala is associated with Sani Graha. Those horoscopes afflicted by Sun-Sani Mutual aspect, if Sani is adverse to Lagna, and not well placed with Sani Dasa running, a visit to Tirumala on Saturday preferably in Purattasi and on kaisika Dvadasi day to worship Ugra Srinivasar with Prayaga Chakra in hand with his consorts when he is taken out on procession before Sun rise in wee hours would help them overcome difficulties. (some also opine that Lord srinivasa is also associated with moon(chandran), so can pray him on Mondays to get rid of effects of afflicted moon)


Thirumalirumcholai is considered as the kshetram of chandran. This Kshetram itself is the Sthalam for chandran to worship and do pariharams.Those worship lord azhagar will feel the happiness as lord Krishna enters in their mind and will grace them.


Srivilliputtur – Sthalam for chevvai (kujan / mars). This kshetram is Chevvai Parihaara sthalam. Also Thiruvellikeni Sri Parthasarathy perumal Kovil is also said to be Angaraka Sthalam.


Thirukkannapuram Sri Sowriraaja Perumal is worshiped by those who has afflicted mercury(budhan) in their horoscopes.


Melkote ThiruNarayana Perumal is associated with Kethu graham and its pariharam.


Thiruchenkunoor, Thirukkadittaanam, Thiruppuliyur, Thiruvaaranvilai, Thiruvanvandur, Thiruvanantapuram of malanaadu divyadesams can be associated as rahu-kethu sthalams



Thiru Sirupuliyurtemple is of special significance for relief from Naaga Dosha and Kaala Sarpa Dosha


Sri Adikesava Perumal Temple, Sriperumbudur – Those facing adverse aspects of Rahu and Ketu planets and those facing delays in marriage due to Kalasarpa dosha in whose horoscopes, pray here for relief.

Swami Ramanujar represents the divine serpent Adisesha, those afflicted by the adverse effects of the snake planets Rahu-Kethu and facing Kalasarpa effects , worship here for relief. They spill the water of the Ananthasaras theertha on their head, perform Kshira(milk) abishek to Sri Ramanuja and light ghee lamps.



Thiruvidanthai Nithya Kalyana Perumal no doubt varaprasadi for unmarried people and so was the Uraiyur sthalam


Naachiyaar Koyil Tirunaraiyur Nambi in the Kalyana kolam with Vanchulavalli Thayar is also parihara stalam for Unmarried and also Kal Garudan seen with nine serpents is believed to have the powers to remove the Navagraha Dosham.


Thiruchireevaramangai(Vanamaamalai) , Thirupputkuzhi are must visit places for childless couples


Thiruvallur VaidhyaVerraraghava Perumal , as his name says cures any health problems.


Thirukadigai (Sholingar) Yoga Narasimha swamy,cure all mental illness


Thiruvahendrapuram Hayagreevar , who removes all obstacle in education.


The above are just a drop of information in big Ocean.



So, we can just recite Sri Vishnu Sahasranama Stotram regularly for all nava grahas as it includes Lord’s all avatharas. We can also recite Dasavatara Sthothram.



In one of the article V.Sadagopan swamy guides us to recitate the 749[SUP]th[/SUP] slokam (given below) of Sri RanganAtha PaadukA Sahasram which will result in Navagraha DevatA PrasAdam.

Also swamy say to follow any one of the below things for bhakthAs seeking progeny who have Sarpa DhOsham to be blessed with SanthAna PrApthi at the right stage in their lives:

• (1) Go to one’s AchAryan and pray to Him for Phala ManthrAkshathai for SanthAna PrApthi after performing Sethu SnAnam
• (2) Go to SrI RanganAthA’s Sannidhi at SrIrangam and recite the 10 slOkams of Sesha Paddhathi for a MaNDalam and receive Periya perumAL’s and ThAyAr’s SaThAri, Theertham every day with one’s wife.

A similar PaarAyaNam can also be done before Lord DevanAthan at the dhivya desam of ThiruvahIndhrapuram. ( Lord DevanAthan chose the name of ThiruvahIndhrapuram (AdhisEshapuram) for His dhivya desam in recognition of the great Kaimkaryam done by AdhisEshan here for Him.)

NaaL yenna seyyum kOL yenna seyyum Yennappan ThALL paRRinARkku.

meaning: What troubles can the nakashathrams, Thithis and Grahams cause for one, who attaches Himself firmly & solely to the Feet of the Lord and the SaThAri there?

Navagraham in SriVaishnavam - Anudinam.org


​

Sri Vaishnavas never considers Nava grahas as moorthies to be worshiped. They surely respects them, and there is no doubt about that. But never worships them. They worships only Srimannarayana for all their requirements and that is all (Saranagathi/prapatti).

I did see during Sanipeyarchi recently many vashinavas worshiping Saneeswaran doing archanis!

 

[Vaagmi]

post # 193:

There is no Navagrha in Vaishnavite temples. OK. But the vaishnavites can be seen in huge numbers in the Navagrha Temples in Thanjavur Dist.!

post # 196:

I did see during Sanipeyarchi recently many vashinavas worshiping Saneeswaran doing archanis!

And this too is a fact:

There are many vaishnavite and other Tamil brahmins who offer a chaddar at the moinuddin Chishti's dargah.

There are many TBs who go to Velankanni to offer a qurbani.

These are all எத்தைத்தின்றால் பித்தம் தீரும் cases.

Oh Lord! they are doing all this and they know not what they are doing!! Please forgive them. LOL.

 

[P.J.]

There is no Navagrha in Vaishnavite temples. OK. But the vaishnavites can be seen in huge numbers in the Navagrha Temples in Thanjavur Dist.!

There is a difference between Vaishnavas visiting navagraha Temples, and NO NAVAGRAHA IN VAISHNAVA TEMPLE!!!

OP is about the later!

 

[Janaki Jambunathan]

post # 193:

There is no Navagrha in Vaishnavite temples. OK. But the vaishnavites can be seen in huge numbers in the Navagrha Temples in Thanjavur Dist.!

post # 196:

I did see during Sanipeyarchi recently many vashinavas worshiping Saneeswaran doing archanis!

And this too is a fact:

There are many vaishnavite and other Tamil brahmins who offer a chaddar at the moinuddin Chishti's dargah.

There are many TBs who go to Velankanni to offer a qurbani.

These are all எத்தைத்தின்றால் பித்தம் தீரும் cases.

Oh Lord! they are doing all this and they know not what they are doing!! Please forgive them. LOL.

And this too is a fact:

There are many TBs who go to Velankanni to offer a qurbani.But you should also see christians like Yesudoss go to Sabarimala with Irumudi!


But hardly seen among Ayyappa though parented by Vishnu and in Sankarankoil where it is half Narayanan & half sankaran!

 

[Vaagmi]

And this too is a fact:

There are many TBs who go to Velankanni to offer a qurbani.But you should also see christians like Yesudoss go to Sabarimala with Irumudi!


But hardly seen among Ayyappa though parented by Vishnu and in Sankarankoil where it is half Narayanan & half sankaran!

1. Vaishnavites do not subscribe to the story of ayyappa's birth as narrated in some purana. So knowledgeable vaishnavites do not participate in ayyappa worship. Some vaishnavites do visit sabarimala to worship ayyappa too.

2. Sankarankoil temple is common for smarthas and vaishnavas. I belong to a place near Sankarankoil and we used to visit that temple for darshan during Aadi Thapas. I am a vaishnavite.

3. "But you should also see christians like Yesudoss go to Sabarimala with Irumudi!" Yes, true. But what does it prove? Nothing that matters here. Yesudas does not carry an idol of Ayyappa to his church and offer worship to that there.