RVR,
This is a huge step. But for this to succeed we have to first convince at least 2 or 3 Tamil Brahmin families to agree. You have the list of boys from the Trichy Swayamvaram. Select 10 of them and suggest to them with no guarantee that we may be able to locate Brahmins from other places.
Once this is done we may contact either individuals or groups of other Brahmin communities to locate Girls.
If at least a couple of marriages are conducted successfully this will prove as an incentive for others to follow.
None of us (Including the best God man on earth) can perform any miracle to create TB girls out of thin air.
Draupathi type arrangement will not work in the present time.
....Draupathi type arrangement will not work in the present time.
Depressingly enough, the TB elites may even encourage Draupati type arrangement than promote alliances with TNB, say a Saiva Pillai or SV Naidu. The TNBs are no less castiests than TBs, one Saiva Pillai web site I found has Bharathiyar's ஜாதிகள் இல்லையடி பாப்பா prominently at the center, and right above it is a search box for matrimony with a huge list of sub-castes to select from.
Caste is just culture, doesn't hurt nobody no time, is a refrain of some. This sounds so similar to the pleas of some South Carolina state legislators who wanted to keep the the confederacy flag flying on top the state house,the flag that invokes memories of hatred and oppression.
Any culture that can be preserved only through strictly enforced endogamy is not very cultured.
Cheers!
Depressingly enough, the TB elites may even encourage Draupati type arrangement than promote alliances with TNB, say a Saiva Pillai or SV Naidu. The TNBs are no less castiests than TBs, one Saiva Pillai web site I found has Bharathiyar's ஜாதிகள் இல்லையடி பாப்பா prominently at the center, and right above it is a search box for matrimony with a huge list of sub-castes to select from.
Caste is just culture, doesn't hurt nobody no time, is a refrain of some. This sounds so similar to the pleas of some South Carolina state legislators who wanted to keep the the confederacy flag flying on top the state house,the flag that invokes memories of hatred and oppression.
Any culture that can be preserved only through strictly enforced endogamy is not very cultured.
Cheers!
A Christian Nadar will prefer a Hindu Nadar rather than other caste. Here even religion is secondary but caste is important.
Kamme is derived from 'Karmin' (Karmigalu in Kannada) meaning those who practice "Vaidhika Dharma".
i think, the next step, is three (atleast THREE) initiators of swaymavaram, send messages on behalf of this forum, to a few of the selected websites, and feel out their willingness.
offhand, i would humbl admiringly choose RVR as one the initiators.
atleast two more... i forget the names of the other leaders of the swayamvaram group.
if swami would lend his name, it would give even more credibility.
Kunjuppu ji,
We shall start collecting data of all the websites of other brahmin groups immediately
We shall also make an announcement at the Trivandrum program about our proposed move. I am sure Trivandrum is very progressive to accept out idea.
We shall write from the administration of this website itself as it will give more credibility and seriousness. I hope Praveen will not have any objection since he is also an organiser of our swayamvaram functions.
Total Brahmin population in India is approx 5.60 crores.
If we assume 70 as average age, each age will have 8 lakh population.
Assuming 50% female population, each age will have 4 lakh girls.
For a range of 10 years, there will be a populations 40 lakh girls.
We have approx 4000 boys aged 30 plus not yet married. I don't know how many will agree for our proposal.
It is just 0.1% of the total brahmin population of the girls in the similar age group.
I think it is worth attempting in our proposed venture.
Let us make a sincere attempt to help our eligible boys.
All the best
If that is the definition of a kamme (karmin), then everybody from karmarashtra wud be a brahmin..
Anyways, let the elders talk among themselves. And let us not interfere in b/w. 1200 unmarried guys is no joke to settle. My apologise if my posts have been an intrusion. NN, we can continue our conversation not here but on an other thread if you wud like to.
Sri Sankara Sharma Sir,
We are all greatful to you for starting this thread. This thread may give a solution to our eligible boys. Let us make a sincere attempt to get brahmin girls speaking other languages for our eligible boys.
I request our members placed in other parts of India to help us in reaching different brahmin communities.
I also request parents of eligible boys to send willingness through personal messages or publicly through this thread so that it will help us in proceeding further.
Let us combine all our resources and try to help our community boys.
All the best
Thanks Mr. shankar Sharma
We shall decide on the future programs.. a very good idea indeed..
But i want to tell a real story here....
One of our tb member who is much annoyance to all is from a well known brahmin community married an american. His kids are also married to american gals. Much stress he lays on inter caste marriage....which many oppose.. even in the programs, when it was discussed, they really are angry on him, as to why this man is still allowed here in the tb.com to post messages in all forums....
Indeed new members from inner parts of tamilnadu are being stressed to login to tb.com and post their ideas and as such logging of new members are increasing, as we cud see the introduction here......
In few days, i hope many brahmins especially tamil brahmins will be coming more and more, with the increase of event, and one day or other, persons stressing intercaste marriages will be thrown away....hahahha...Brahmins should be always hv brahmin gals or boys in their life....
If a muslim in Saudi arabia is married to a non-muslim, he is beheaded....
such situation should not arise in our community....
We shall guide our kids to hv partners only from brahmin community...
which will happen, and we shall try this to happen for our future generations...
At last i request other brahmin members to support this, for the welfare of our communal existance....
"Sooriyana paathu Naai kolaikkatum sir.. naama namma velaya paapom"
thanks and bye
...One of our tb member who is much annoyance to all is from a well known brahmin community married an american. His kids are also married to american gals. Much stress he lays on inter caste marriage....which many oppose.. even in the programs, when it was discussed, they really are angry on him, as to why this man is still allowed here in the tb.com to post messages in all forums....
Indeed new members from inner parts of tamilnadu are being stressed to login to tb.com and post their ideas and as such logging of new members are increasing, as we cud see the introduction here......
In few days, i hope many brahmins especially tamil brahmins will be coming more and more, with the increase of event, and one day or other, persons stressing intercaste marriages will be thrown away....hahahha...Brahmins should be always hv brahmin gals or boys in their life....
If a muslim in Saudi arabia is married to a non-muslim, he is beheaded....
such situation should not arise in our community....
We shall guide our kids to hv partners only from brahmin community...
which will happen, and we shall try this to happen for our future generations...
Dear Kunjuppu,swami,
i will let the honourable member answer you somewhat indirect reference to him, provided, who he is and who he thinks you mean, are one and the same person.
but i am somewhat surprised, at the call to throw him out of the forum, just on the basis that he promotes intercaste marriage. it appears to me that this is somewhat of a parochial attitude, and i hope those members who encouraged you along these lines identify themselves, so as to give the gentleman a fair field to play. that is only fair, i think.
i have several stories of parents mocking others for intercaste or absolutely refusing to talk with parents whose children married out of religion..... till.... such time, as their own loved one chose to do the same. overnight, one heard all the calls for brotherly love among religions and all gods are the same eventually. made me puke, when i heard such nonsense coming from those type of folks. pure hypocrites, who change their colour, to suit the minute.
on the other hand, there are several, including myself, who see certain events as the way the world is going. maybe we cannot control or avoid it, but definitely if it impacts our children, we can probably try give them parameters, so that in the ultimate, the children are happily married and live a contented life.
life has too many uncertainties to think, preach and swear in terms of absolutes. if one leaves a door open, atleast then, one can honourably withdraw from those rigidness, to one of graceful acceptance - after all these are our children, whom we brought into and up in this world. we cannot wish our child into banishment just because they marry someone whom we do not like. it can happen to anyone's child. the loss is to the parents. i know of a few, of those bitter ones. my remarks about them, is that the parents brought and wallow in their own self pity and sorrows, with ever present relatives and friends, ever ready with the kiNNaarams.
having said that, i agree with you on two other points. it is heartening to see more membership. i will accept your note that these are from the inlands of tamil nadu. i am hoping more participation from them, in terms of postings and viewpoints
also, marriage as such is fraught with tensions and misunderstandings. in my own case, with my view so close to us in practice and tradition, it has eased us of many situations. but most of the hassles of the marriage comes from the interference on in laws and i confess that i too have had more than my deserved share. even in case of closest caste porutham, i think, a word of advice from person of eminence, to the in laws, to leave the couple alone and let them find themselves together, is a worthwhile exercise.
re saudi, i think it is a society which does not deserve any acknowledgement in this forum, even from setting a bad example. it is beyond that.
THERE is section of TAMIL BRAHMIN COMMUNITY in SRILANKA.
They are in distressed state where supply of Brahmin girls will be a source. They practice vegetarianism and are mostly saivites. Broad minded TB can help these girls.They worship Vishnu without inhibitions.
This is a source one can look into for they talk tamil in SRILANKAN way but yet they practice brahmin culture. This way inter caste marriage - the need can be avoided. WE can get to them through temple preist in TRICONEMALLE.