Advice to Parents - Arrange for Inter-Brahmin marriage

[RVR]

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I do hope you have made arrangements to cover Thirunelveli district in the Trivandrum function. Most of the Tamil Brahmins in Trivandrum are originally from Thirunelveli and Ramnad districts. We have an extremely strong Tamil Brahmin presence in Kallidaikurichi, Ambasamudram, Kadaiyam and other villages in Thirunelveli district. Again Nagercoil, Mahathanapuram, Puliyurkurichi, Sucheendram and other villages in Kanya Kumari district.

The Pothi community had a fairly good presence in the Trivandrum/Nagercoil area. They would be the first choice. But I wonder how many of them are still left? There were Maharashtrian and Telugu Brahmins in Travancore. But not many are left now.

The biggest Brahmin Agraharam in Kerala is Karamana and its offshoot Vinay Nagar. East Fort again has a good number of Tamil Brahmins.

Only for information.

There is no uniform identity called Kerala Iyers. The Tamil Brahmins of Travancore are mostly from Thirunelveli and Ramnad district. The Palghat Iyers are mostly from Tanjore. Inter-marriage between even these two was not common earlier.

There has been some progress in thinking.

The sub-sub caste distinction has disappeared. No one talks about Kandramanickam and Mangudi Brahcharanam now.

Please see the sub sub castes of Iyers here. Even this list also may not be complete.

Iyer Iyers Community India Brahmins Today Tamil South Castes

Sankar Sharma Sir,

Chandru is already making publicity in Tirunelveli, Kanyakumari and Tuticorin districts.

I am sure there will be good particpation from these areas apart from Trivandrum, Quilon belt in Kerala. Infact Kerala Brahmana Sabha office bearers are promoting in Ernakulam also.

If you have any specific contacts in these areas, please inform us so that we can send pamphlets.

All the best

 

[sankara_sharmah]

There is what we call Real Life apart from the forums on the internet. Swayamvarams are real life functions. The organizers will have their own way of keeping in touch with each other and co-ordinating their activities. Participation in this forum is not necessary for that. Yes. they are going through the discussions which pertain to the conduct of the Swayamvarams.

Talking about real life, if there is some positive response to the idea of inter-Brahmin marriages, I will discuss this with friends in Varanasi during my annual sojourn there.

I will try to locate the address of my friends in Bhandarpur. My local contact has retired. I will have to check up where he is now. At my age retirement and death are every day facts of life.

 

[happyhindu]

HH,

The problem, IMO seems to be that we have very many different impressions of the entities called "brahmin", "Tamil brahmin", "Kerala Iyer", "North Indian brahmin", etc. Each one of us has a certain idea/s about each of the above and that really creates avoidable confusion and verbal outbursts, at times.

RVR's view, according to me, is that we better do something concrete for the TBs, and right now their main problem is getting so many of their 30+ boys married to TB girls, or at least some girl from the brahmin category. Arm-chair discussions like what we (including myself) are mostly doing here, obviously will not help in their program. If that unpleasant truth be expressed by someone, some others will feel hurt. Perhaps it is for Praveen to take a final decision as you rightly point out.

Shri Sangom,

I wholeheartedly agree with you. Getting ppl married is no small feat, and as a punyakaryam everyone who puts effort in that direction is doing a yeoman service. In that sense i have immense respect for Shri RVR. The difficulty in trying to get a whooping number of guys (1200 guys) married wud require tons of effort, luck, exchange of resources and what not...

But let us say, there is nothing others can do. What if others have no solutions to offer. Everyone is searching for a girl these days, so what can one do...Does that mean they shd stop talking then..

you and i are having some good discussions under a completely diff category - shd everyone stop posting anything at all...Will stopping talking produce females out of thin air.

And i do not see what is the necessity to bring in the 'provocation' topic in odd unrelated places. Neither do i see what is the necessity to presume things.

Anyways, let me stop here. I have stopped having confidence in my writing abilities and hope i have conveyed what i wanted to appropriately.

 

[nachi naga]

i think brahmins by birth shud marry amongst themselves.this does not mean,there wont be issues and all.any relationship has a cycle of good and bad behaviours.tb are a minority now,but can foster inter language brahmin marriage as a viable option.primarily,we are struggling to cope with materialism,which every community is facing.but,with modern education being inculcated,its natural younger generation have a mind of their own to choose life partners and they may stray into other castes.i dont think our society has evolved to mix and macth castes as yet,maybe in future it may happen.such changes can never happen becoz,we do profiling on the basis of religion,politics globally.the way its been done is to make hindus look bad,this needs to change.

 

[RVR]

There is what we call Real Life apart from the forums on the internet. Swayamvarams are real life functions. The organizers will have their own way of keeping in touch with each other and co-ordinating their activities. Participation in this forum is not necessary for that. Yes. they are going through the discussions which pertain to the conduct of the Swayamvarams.

Talking about real life, if there is some positive response to the idea of inter-Brahmin marriages, I will discuss this with friends in Varanasi during my annual sojourn there.

I will try to locate the address of my friends in Bhandarpur. My local contact has retired. I will have to check up where he is now. At my age retirement and death are every day facts of life.

Sri Sankar Sharma sir,

Please revive your contacts in Varanasi, Bhandarpur etc and try to get some leads.

It is going to be a big task and we have to combine all our resources to achieve something.

UP state has substantial brahmin population (almost 13%) . Since dowry is very much prevailing there among the local brahmins, it is probably right place for us to enter. Our boys wants a girl only and will not talk about dowry.

May be if we pick up some girls from UP, we can create shortage of girls there also and dowry system will get abolished automatically.

With a single stone, we can reap two mangoes.

All the best

 

[nachi naga]

i think globally also,this idea can be mooted.parents living abroad also can participate in their respective countries.usa,canada,uk,malaysia,.....have a ton of brahmin families of indian origin.maybe i am too ambitious..

 

[kunjuppu]

Kunjuppu Sir,

Now the organising group of Swayamvaram function is very large . None of the organisers of Coimbatore and Trichy functions are participating in our forum. Behind Chandru, there are more than dozen volunteers working day and night to make the TVM function a great success. Even Chanru's participation is very much limited here and others are avoiding this forum. Even Sri Sabesan is not particpating in our discussions regularly and his other colleagues in Bangalore have practically withdrawn from this forum.

Probably all the above mean only action and not interested in talking. May be they don't want to participate in the discussions to avoid unnecessary provocations.

Now we are going to complete first round and hereinafter it will take care of itself. I am also planning to withdraw from regular organising of each & every event and concentrate more on formation of a trust for our community.

People like you are great strength to us. It requires a modern outlook with a conservative approach. Unless ideas are coming from such mindset, it will be very difficult to implement.

We are serving mostly poor and middle class sections of our community in Swayamvaram functions. With great difficulty we are convincing them to get out sub-caste syndrome. But taking them beyond this at this point of time is a very difficult proposition.

Shortage of girls prevails mostly for 30 plus boys and it seems to be less in 30 minus segment. If we solve the problem for 30 plus boys, it will be a great service to our community. I am planning to approach Kerala Brahmana Sabha for promoting the inter brahmin marriage idea. They are more progressive and service minded. Once it is successful with them, we can take it to Tamilnadu Brahmin community directly.

Please suggest your views on the above.

All the best

rvr,

you could have plucked the thoughts out of my mind with your post here

i was on the tip of suggesting (particularly in light of request for re-swayamvaram at chennai, bangalore) that each unit is separately organized with local activists.

perhaps swami might be able to be present in some of these as time, and convenience permits. otherwise, it should be a franchise affair.

what might help though, is to have a written set of guidelines, versioned, and constantly updated and posted in this website. these organizational procedures, should be of such clarity, that a man in the street, can read through this and be able to organize one, in their own township.

such a self help doityourself approach will not enable more than one swayamvaram be organized at a time, but also repeated swayamvarams on a regular basis at places like chennai or bangalore, if there is such a demand. also it frees you up, to do better and greater things

personally, if particpants at swayamvarams do not particpate in the forum discussion, i am neutral about it. these are two different skillandinterest sets.

just take this thread for example: it is a conception of a new member sangom, and if you trace the progress, you will find, as the discussion progresses, there are critical posts, where the call to action is clearly evidenced and as a result some solid results fructified.

this transformation of ideas to deed, is not the result of one sole contributor, but the sum total of all our efforts. to that extent, i think, we can a take a deep breath and pat ourselves on the back. to those folks who are the do-ers we are providing the tools and knowhow to produce some useful results.

which comes to my own limitation. living on the other side of the world, my participation here, is one of interest, goodwill and above all, a concern for our 30+ youth to find mates, taking into account, the narrowness of views and mindsets. ie we are helping many a folk here, inspite of themselves - left alone, they probably will get more advice on more vrithams and more tree huggings.

so dear rvr, there are uses for both kinds - the discussers & the doers. one need not dismiss the other as valueless. that would be wrong. ... and then there are folks like you, who are the jewels of this initiative - ambidexterous or able to bat& bowl with equal dexterity with both your hands

 

[kunjuppu]

RVR Sir,

Please, lets follow our own work in helping parents finding suitable matches

Please dont get distracted by others.....

I request other fellow BRAHMINS either to help our community or better hv discussions on other forums please rather distracting others....

Praveen please help us....

swami,

not clear about your note?

are you not for marriages with other brahmin folks from other states?

what is the distraction here? i cannot find any.

 

[Raghy]

Sow.Sri.Happy Hindu thinks:-

I have stopped having confidence in my writing abilities....

Sow.Sri.Happy Hindu,

Greetings. In my opinion, your writing abilities have gone from good to better. Your messages are packed with reasearch and references. Of late, your tone has taken a softer tone, which is very good. Like a 'fish that lost confidence in swimming'; like jasmine that lost confidence in fragrance.....Sow.HH lost confidence in writing abilities!....indeed!

Cheers!

 

[sangom]

rvr,

just take this thread for example: it is a conception of a new member sangom,...

Kunjuppu,

Please give credit to Shri Sankara_Sharmah for starting the thread, not to me. I was probably trying to inform what is currently happening as a result of the shortage of TB girls, in my area.

 

[sangom]

Kunjuppu Sir..

:laseristraction is on other ways and can be seen on other msgs here.

Hope it clears now...:clap2:

This thread was initiated by sankara_sharmah with the opening sentence, "We have been discussing Inter-caste marriages in many threads. Most of these are love marriages." Unfortunately, this very first sentence without any clear caveat subsequently to the effect that we should not consider that option at all, gave me (and probably some others as well) an impression that while the main purpose of the thread was to explore the feasibility of inter-brahmin marriages, the shortage of girls among TBs and ways to tackle it, including inter-caste marriage, was not taboo.

If it had been unequivocally indicated that this thread is not for and is against the option of inter-caste marriages the contributors also would have been forewarned.

I would therefore request Shri Swaminatha Sharma and others who are actively conducting the swayamvaram programs successfully, to take this aspect into account and stop thinking that others are trying to wreck the program; if this thread is expressly for inter-brahmin marriages only, so be it. We will all cooperate to the best possible extent.

 

[RVR]

Kunjuppu ji,

There is no difference of opinion among the organisers on suggesting inter-brahmin marriage proposal to the participants.

Infact this evening I spoke to an office bearer of Kerala Brahmana Sabha and he confirmed that they are also having similar idea. But he warned me not to jump to any conclusions immediately as the goodwill which we have built through Naveena Swayamvaram is very much felt within our community in Kerala also and it should not allowed to vanish just like that. I have also requested his advice and he has promised to help me.

Our Bangalore colleague Sridhar has prepared a detailed note on systematic planning and execution of our swayamvaram functions and it could be handed over to the willing organisers free of cost. However we would like to know the genuineness of the new comers as the commercial websites are wondering how we are able to do the event at such a low cost of Rs.100 per participant. We are providing free lunch to the participants (At-least two members come for each participant), printed charts, whole day engagement with Swaminatha Sharma etc. We are also able to get good media coverage both before and after the event which is an envy of everybody.

I always welcome suggestions for improvement and definitely lot of good suggestions are come out of this forum. I thank all the members who are interested in our programs. We very well know most of you are unable to participate physically due to geographical separation. Please continue to provide valuable inputs which will help us in fine tuning our programs. We intend to form a separate trust where we can accept donations for Annadhanam etc. We have waived the registration fee for Trivandrum function and based on its success, we would like to repeat the same in the future functions also.

Distractions and distortions are part of our life. When we are in public service, definitely we have to face criticisms from certain quarters. We always welcome constructive criticisms and personally I can manage non-constructive criticisms also.

Let us move forward and do more service to our community through this forum.

We have to thank Praveen and other administrators of this forum for bringing all of us together. Without their support and encouragement, we could not have achieved whatever little we have achieved.

All the best

 

[Nara]

....what is the distraction here? i cannot find any.

K, I think you are playing coy with Shri Sharma

This time the distraction is HH's posting, and of course there is yours truly, a permanent thorn in the craw.

HH makes a very good point when she wrote,

"If you wish no one shd talk, then you might consider asking praveen to close down this website and communicate among yourselves thru emails."
​

Why is there so much antipathy for arm-chair talk? Even here, this misguided effort to import girls from far away places thus uprooting the girls from their natural surroundings to a place where she is completely dependent on the mercies of the in-laws, and as claimed they being from poorer section section will have great difficulty getting out of intolerable situations, got started from some "talk".

Often times action is not automatically better than talk -- efficiency vs. effectiveness. Are we doing the right thing for our youngsters? The older people are motivated by the urge to preserve tradition which may not be a priority for the youngsters. It is their lives that the older people are trying to engineer with this effort. But then any contra opinion is empty talk, distraction, must be shut down, call Praveen and let us put an end to it.

Please think about the poor girls from the north who will be separated from her immediate family by great distance if this effort is successful. There are things that are more tragic than our young people marrying local NB girls.

Cheers!

 

[kunjuppu]

K, I think you are playing coy with Shri Sharma

This time the distraction is HH's posting, and of course there is yours truly, a permanent thorn in the craw.

HH makes a very good point when she wrote,

"If you wish no one shd talk, then you might consider asking praveen to close down this website and communicate among yourselves thru emails."
​

Why is there so much antipathy for arm-chair talk? Even here, this misguided effort to import girls from far away places thus uprooting the girls from their natural surroundings to a place where she is completely dependent on the mercies of the in-laws, and as claimed they being from poorer section section will have great difficulty getting out of intolerable situations, got started from some "talk".

Often times action is not automatically better than talk -- efficiency vs. effectiveness. Are we doing the right thing for our youngsters? The older people are motivated by the urge to preserve tradition which may not be a priority for the youngsters. It is their lives that the older people are trying to engineer with this effort. But then any contra opinion is empty talk, distraction, must be shut down, call Praveen and let us put an end to it.

Please think about the poor girls from the north who will be separated from her immediate family by great distance if this effort is successful. There are things that are more tragic than our young people marrying local NB girls.

Cheers!

no coy, nara. i see people and their posts in the best of intentions meant and read. so in this context, there was no coy from me, and no distraction to me either. we can handle all types of conversations within any thread.

having said that, your suggestions re looking for local NB brides, is saintly. but we are dealings with humans here. that too very limited humans. that is the way i see it.

these folks, at this point, are so parochial, that there is no guarantee that even this initiative to look at other states will succeed in convincing them. remember, if i do right, rvr said these are mostly lower and middle class brahmins.

i think, with the wealthy and upper middle class, all these are not issues, and probably have quite a few relatives through marriage, out of state and caste and possibly religion.

but we have to help the lc/lmc regardless. inspite of themselves. for the sake of the 30+ aged TB boys. it is not their fault that their seeds are going awaste due to the ignorance of their parents.

these are the dredges at the bottom of the filter. they do not have the skillsets to find mates on their own - due to their upbringing. you may notice, that the parents of these guys are desperate and swinging between frustration & anger at the TB society at large.

the parents also have iron caged belief in supposed traditions, and these are too frightening to break. these are not of the questioning or curious kind. they blindly follow the hand me down values from their ancestors. till now all was ok, till the new skewed birth rates, emancipation of women etc etc.

sooo, while i agree with you nara, i do not think that will go down as acceptable. we are trying to do a quick solution, perhaps the first break from the rigidly held faith to subcastes and subsubcastes and language. if this works, it will atleast start the breaking of a monolith. the first step.

if it fails, maybe we will start to look at other TNB. but then these have always been available and there has not been any terrible rush to arranged marriages here.

i think, the right thing, in the interest of the single boys foremost, is for all of us to wish this initiative the best. at the same time, i would not agree, that any discussion of alternatives should be shunned. that would be wrong, even to suggest such notions.

 

[RVR]

This thread was initiated by sankara_sharmah with the opening sentence, "We have been discussing Inter-caste marriages in many threads. Most of these are love marriages." Unfortunately, this very first sentence without any clear caveat subsequently to the effect that we should not consider that option at all, gave me (and probably some others as well) an impression that while the main purpose of the thread was to explore the feasibility of inter-brahmin marriages, the shortage of girls among TBs and ways to tackle it, including inter-caste marriage, was not taboo.

If it had been unequivocally indicated that this thread is not for and is against the option of inter-caste marriages the contributors also would have been forewarned.

I would therefore request Shri Swaminatha Sharma and others who are actively conducting the swayamvaram programs successfully, to take this aspect into account and stop thinking that others are trying to wreck the program; if this thread is expressly for inter-brahmin marriages only, so be it. We will all cooperate to the best possible extent.

Sri Sangom Sir,

With your age and experience, I am sure, you know very well about the mindset of our community in India and particularly in Tamilnadu, Kerala and Bangalore.

We are just facilitators in the swayamvaram function and we cannot suggest any radical reforms to the participants.

Unless we bring several members of our community at one place, we cannot solve the problem also.

In the swayamvaram function, among the participants, there are radical thinkers who express whatever is expressed in different threads of our forum .

But as organisers, we just keep our silence without interfering with their talk.

At the same time, we observe the mood of the participants during such radical talks.

We have now identified the problem - `shortage of girls'

We also discussed in some other threads in the past about inter-brahmin marriages.

We, as organizers, have been thinking about this for long time but we didn't know how to go about it.

We permitted one Maharastrian Brahmin girl to participate in our first program in Chennai last year.

But the full credit goes to Sri Sankara Sharma for opening a separate thread on this topic. He created an opportunity for all of us to discuss this issue in a more focussed manner.


Now this thread is able to provide a solution based on various views. Personally we would like to consider Prof Nara's warnings also in the right spirit.

Now the ball has been put to the swayamvaram organisers court. We have to play it very carefully so that the image of the swayamvaram function as well our forum is not damaged on any account.

Sri Praveen has personally invested lot of money, not only in this website but also in another website `naveenaswayamvaram.com'. He has to financially take the beating if the image is spoiled.

Balancing all the above requires lot of skill and expertise. We don't think we, the organisers, have the same. Definitely we will come back to this thread with our problems and seek solutions.

We are sure you will support us and guide us properly. My father expired about three years back at the age of 85. I always consulted him on all important decisions. I never felt that he is talking from his `arm chair'

All of us are equally interested in our youngsters.

About nine months back, when several parents of boys expressed their problems, I suggested the `swayamvaram' event as a possible solultion. Now it has become a routine affair helping at-least few members of our community.

Now we have again come back to this forum with the problem `shortage of TB girls'.

Again this forum has given us a direction which we value very much.

Now we request all the members to give possible leads, contacts to take this proposal forward.

We may not be able to solve the problems fully but we are sure we will be able to make at-least partial success.

Let us forget all the distortions and distractions etc if any as a thing of past.

So with this positive frame of mind, let us start the work.

All the best.

 

[Nara]

Dear kunjuppu,

... there was no coy from me, and no distraction to me either.

I think there is a misunderstanding, my impression was you knew in whom Shri Sharma saw the mischief of causing distractions and playing coy with him. If I am wrong on that count, then I stand corrected.

..., your suggestions re looking for local NB brides, is saintly.

Ha, complement with a sting attached.

....these folks, at this point, are so parochial, [..] but we have to help the lc/lmc regardless. inspite of themselves.

If these hapless lc/lmc must be guided by us elites, why can't we guide them to the river instead of the muddy waters of a வாய்க்கால். To drink or not is their choice.

But it has already been assumed that if these clueless lc/lmc were to break their parochial ways they are more likely to accept a B girl, from a far away place, with whom they can't even communicate, or share next to nothing in terms of day-to-day living culture, than to consider a TNB girl next door, and therefore TB elites must only attempt to facilitate alliance with Brahmins from other states, and never, never even explore the TNB possibility.

soooo, my question is why assume the ignorance of these parents is possibly malleable only to the extent of a Brahmin from Varanasi, but not a TNB from Mandaveli?

We have already assumed that these dredges at the bottom of the filter are not broadminded like us at the top and will never go outside the caste subgroup. Beyond anecdotal evidence is there any proof of this? Would they rather see their ward's seeds go waste than even give a sideways glance at a TNB bride? Is this their view or our preconception of their view.

Are these parents too frightening to break tradition, or, the elites don't want them to give an opportunity for it?

They won't break tradition, so why provide them this opportunity, but then how can they break tradition unless an opportunity is provided. கல்யாணம் ஆனால் பைத்தியம் தெளியும், பைத்தியம் தெளிஞ்சால் கல்யாணம் ஆகும்.

I also notice you have ignored the very real problems the unfortunate B girl from north with no Tamil knowledge and no relatives anywhere close, will undoubtedly face.

Talking of anecdotes, some 40 years ago, an lc Brahmin from Sri Rangam gave their girl in marriage to an NB because the parents could not afford to find a TB groom. It won't surprise me if 90% of these parents won't want NB, BTW, a proportion I daresay is probably not unlike we elites who are above blindly following tradition. But I think even if one or two families benefit from facilitating an alliance with TNB, that would be an accomplishment worthy of feeling proud about.

Why not attempt to collaborate with some TNB groups and offer it as a possibility. Let the unfortunate lc/lmc decide for themselves, rather than the elites who have already prejudged that there cannot be even one lc/lmc who would be interested in TNB, they would rather have their son's seed wasted.

Why not invite a marriage broker from other TNB and explore the possibility?

Ah, there is Shri Sharma, who has vowed not a single NB will be allowed in the swayamvaram. Nice company to keep.

Cheers!

 

[srikrish85]

Aye sir... I totally agree with you... If we want a peaceful society devoid of caste struggles... the Brahmans should initiate the motive to include NB as well... When we do these things... the rest will follow us... cheers...

 

[SuryaKasyapa]

Sri Sangom Sir

.......................................................

Now we request all the members to give possible leads, contacts to take this proposal forward.

................................................


All the best.

As an example of a lead -as the next event is in TVM--
Just for an example I give a link to the PUSHPAKA DHWANI - a magazine of Pushpaka Brahmins ( including Nambiar, Nambeesan etc ).
But for any success it should be a two way acceptance. This is only a pointer..... May be success waits at the other end.

SPSS - JUNE 2010


Namboothiris have their "Yogakshema Sabha".

 

[happyhindu]

Shri Nara, Shri Kunjuppu, Shri Sharma, and Shri RVR,

Shri Sharma, please count the number of posts i made in this thread. I do not know why you think those were distractions.

Shri RVR brings up the subject of 'provocation' and 'stopping talking' in odd places. I hope i can get to hear what exactly he has on his mind (from himself).

Everyone is searching for brides these days (or atleast those i know); and as Shri RVR rightly points out, they are in the 30+ age group..Am not interested in promoting inter-marriage with NBs or other Bs....Culture and caste apart, even if they search i do not think there are females available in other communites (both Bs and NBs) in that age group - i am almost pretty sure of that from whatever is my limited observation. I do not think females from north also remain unmarried beyond 30.

Unless there is some "problem", most often females get married by age 30. ..Plus, we do not know if girls from the other communities (both inter-Bs and NBs) might be interested...All i know is females in arranged marriages these days go for guys who are 'best-settled'...there are also females who prefer to remain unmarried than marry the wrong guy.....So there is a section (like me) that really cannot offfer solutions...but will 'stopping talking' help? Then why have a forum for...Shri RVR, if you think fault-finding should be selective, then so be it...i will not post anything in the threads started by you ever again.

The only solution i can think of is this:
If a couple is comfortable with a age difference of about 8 to 10 years or even more, then let the older guys marry the younger females.

 

[RVR]

As an example of a lead -as the next event is in TVM--
Just for an example I give a link to the PUSHPAKA DHWANI - a magazine of Pushpaka Brahmins ( including Nambiar, Nambeesan etc ).
But for any success it should be a two way acceptance. This is only a pointer..... May be success waits at the other end.

SPSS - JUNE 2010


Namboothiris have their "Yogakshema Sabha".

Thanks Suryakasyapa Sir,

We shall follow up with this lead also.

All the best

 

[Raghy]

Respectable members,

Personally I welcome the idea of mixing the sub-sects between caste brahmins. Any small relaxing from age old regidities should be welcomed with open arms.

Cheers!

 

[sankara_sharmah]

As an example of a lead -as the next event is in TVM--
Just for an example I give a link to the PUSHPAKA DHWANI - a magazine of Pushpaka Brahmins ( including Nambiar, Nambeesan etc ).
But for any success it should be a two way acceptance. This is only a pointer..... May be success waits at the other end.

SPSS - JUNE 2010


Namboothiris have their "Yogakshema Sabha".

Can you tell me what is the article about? It is in Malayalam.

 

[AnanthaNarayanan]

as real as pigs fly. :flypig:



Yes. I can clearly picture tnb standing in line to surrender their reservation quota to tb, even as all the tb give up their sandyavandhanams to form a line for breaking coconuts before all evr statues in the state. :whoo:

iyest ji
well said.all depends upon individual maind set...
Now let us try to unite at least all brahmin groups togather.
Inter caste happens by itself through friendship ....love.......marriage. In fact all of us may have such jointventures in our family directly or indirectly

 

[AnanthaNarayanan]

can you tell me what is the article about? It is in malayalam.

they are all i hope sub sects below namboothiris .
Bearing surnames as follows:- unni, nambiar,nambeesan,chakyar,plappally,kurukkal,kartha,nambati,adikal, moothathu,ilayathu.sthanikal. These are equal communities amoung them

they considered in their community those who have doing shoodasa kriyas.

and you know there sang name i got this from ther bylaws.
if any thing there to update will do later. Just iam going through site.

 

[RVR]

they are all i hope sub sects below namboothiris .
Bearing surnames as follows:- unni, nambiar,nambeesan,chakyar,plappally,kurukkal,kartha,nambati,adikal moothathu,ilayathu.sthanikal. These are equal communities amoung them

they considered in their community those who have doing shoodasa kriyas.

and you know there sang name i got this from ther bylaws.
if any thing there to update will do later. Just iam going through site.

Are they not brahmins. Their website says they are brahmins.

Please clarify

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