I am not a TB but I wonder what is so wrong about a Brahmin exclusive Agraharam?
After all doesn't a person have the choice to live in a place that he or she would feel comfortable?
Renuka,
The above view seems very reasonable, of course who could be against a person having the choice to live in a place he/she feels comfortable about.
But I would like to peel this facade and dig a little deeper. Why do these people feel comfort in living in a Brahmin exclusive agraharam? Why were they so eager to leave an already existing Brahmin exclusive agraharam in the village to live in a metro with everyone for the sake of money? Now, having voluntarily left agraharam life for the sake of few Gandhi, why do they now nurse a nostalgic longing for that they voluntarily left behind? I have already posed these questions, but there is no answer, only vengeful ad hominems.
I have lived in agraharams, both in village where there was no toilet at home even in the back (புழக்கடை) and in towns with "modern" dry toilets in the back. I have lived that life first hand. Some people here have fertile imagination of Vedic village, etc., but I know that most agraharams when I was growing up, which was many decades ago, and even at that time, had no veda phatasalai and the life was not pristine. Only poor Brahmin families opted for veda pathasala and they had to send their kids away. The residents of agraharam were crass and uncouth, gossip mongering, shouting at each other, wife-beating, fighting holding each other's குடிமி style. Yes, there were some learned people, but they had their own failings, somewhat a glimse of it shown in the movie Dharm. However, most residents couldn't care less for the ideals Brahmins like to tout. They were satisfied to live on the labor of others and complain about the குத்தகைக்காரன் (tenant farmer) not giving what they are owed.
It is routine in these agraharams to refer to any NB as சூத்ரன்/சூத்ரச்சி. Toilet cleaners are not allowed to enter the main street, they had go to the back "street" kind of like the parking lane we find in some neighborhoods with their parking garage in the back of the house. This back street is an open sewer. They enter through this sewer lane, remove the shit, carry it on their head and egress. This was also a part of agraharam life, unseen and unrecognized.
Fear and hatred of IC/IR is one of the reasons they want to go back to this agraharam life style, they have said so many times. You being a progeny of an IC, it is bizarre that you find their desire for exclusivity understandable. Do you realize you won't be allowed to even enter the kind of agraharam these people are so nostalgically reminiscing about? You will be considered an avarna, not fit for the four-fold categories who are permitted to live in the கிராமம் (gramam) within their individual exclusive zone.
In a modern aghraharam -- if these people ever go back and establish one, which is very doubtful, a snow flake has a better chance of survival in hell -- you will of course be welcome, with all the Gandhi you can wave at them. They may even approvingly declare, இவளோட அம்மா பிராமணா தெரியுமோனோ.
So, I hope you get a sense why I feel it is so wrong for rational and compassionate people to mouth these exclusivity dreams.
After all I can safely say you truly like this "Online Agraharam"(Forum)!LOL
You are wrong about this, your LOL not withstanding. This site is open for everyone, the owner says so everytime there is a challenge to this idea.
What I like is the opportunity to rebut some of these supremacist views, and the occasional exchange of ideas that is becoming very rare. I hate these garbage throwing that has become so predictable these days. Nobody even tries to put up an argument. For example, I have stated some really strong stuff above. I challenge all these people to put up an argument about what I have stated without telling me I am BB, hatemogering, etc. The most I can expect though is silence from many, ad hominem attack from a few, cheering the personal attacks from the rest.
There are some here who do nothing but copy/paste, there is nothing wrong with that, but if anyone says anything that is contrary to widely accepted inane and banal bromides, these guys come down saying BS, HS, pissing and such. This is the quality of debate that has become common place.
Well, I try my best to stay clear of many posts and carefully pick and chose when and where to express my views, which I will continue to do and will gladly engage in reasonable debate if it is free of name calling. Otherwise, I am happy to remain the gadfly of this forum, thank you very much!!!
Thanks ...
. very much like the agraharamic behaviour of yore. !!
