Caveats...for venditors and emptors!! eh!!

[amala]

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MCP = male chauvinist pig...

 

[amala]

There are 2 types MCPs:



1)The Aggressive Types.

These types make the rules by force and rule their wives with iron fists.

They are often hot tempered and abusive at times.

Most of the while they are not well educated.


2)The Passive Types.

The passive types actually have their own way mapped out all the while but are manipulative and the wife does not realize that she has been controlled all the while.

They are not aggressive or abusive but play psychological games.

Most of the while they are well educated and intelligent.



Moral of the story: Men are alike it is just that their Modus Operandi differs!

I think theres also something called passive aggressive. I think aggressive is better. Its less devious. Not just about men here, i'm talking about attitude for people in general.

 

[renuka]

I think theres also something called passive aggressive. I think aggressive is better. Its less devious. Not just about men here, i'm talking about attitude for people in general.

yes you are right..there is something called Passive Aggression seen in men most of the while.

Woman so far do not display too much of Passive Aggression cos women are ruled by estrogen and progesterone cycles and a go into moods of shouting/crying/depression or some become hysterical!
Worse still are cases of cat fights becos of a guy!..that becomes Really Actively Aggressive!LOL

Passive Aggression in Males:

Signs and symptoms
The book Living with the Passive-Aggressive Man lists 11 responses that may help identify passive-aggressive behavior:[SUP][1]
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Ambiguity or speaking cryptically: a means of engendering a feeling of insecurity in others

Chronically being late and forgetting things: another way to exert control or to punish.

Fear of competition; Fear of dependency; Fear of intimacy as a means to act out anger: The passive aggressive often cannot trust. Because of this, they guard themselves against becoming intimately attached to someone.

Making chaotic situations; Making excuses for non-performance in work teams; Obstructionism
Procrastination; Sulking' and victimization response: instead of recognizing one's own weaknesses, tendency to blame others for own failures.

A passive-aggressive person may not have all of these behaviors, and may have other non-passive-aggressive traits.


How to Find Joy in Staying Married to a Passive Aggressive Husband - Yahoo Voices - voices.yahoo.com

 

[Vaagmi]

Passive Aggression in Males:
Signs and symptomsThe book Living with the Passive-Aggressive Man lists 11 responses that may help identify passive-aggressive behavior:[SUP][1]
[/SUP]Ambiguity or speaking cryptically: a means of engendering a feeling of insecurity in others
Chronically being late and forgetting things: another way to exert control or to punish.
Fear of competition; Fear of dependency; Fear of intimacy as a means to act out anger: The passive aggressive often cannot trust. Because of this, they guard themselves against becoming intimately attached to someone.
Making chaotic situations; Making excuses for non-performance in work teams; Obstructionism
Procrastination; Sulking' and victimization response: instead of recognizing one's own weaknesses, tendency to blame others for own failures.
A passive-aggressive person may not have all of these behaviors, and may have other non-passive-aggressive traits.

In short this is what we call in tamil கழுத்தறுப்பு cases.

 

[Vaagmi]

I am unable to understand what you mean by MCP. Kindly explain.

The family drama that you have presented here as happening in many house hold, is not the uniqueness of Brahmin Families. Such non sense happens in any caste community.
Just by making unreasonable demands, absolute command, powerful orders, total control etc..etc..while seeking a guy for marriage and waiting desperately & indefinitely for the deal to arrive, unmindful of passing years, one can not be rest assured of a marvelous married life.
One has to get out of the craziness to be able to identify what best qualities the person has, that can help the union go a long way successfully and give meaning to a married life.

MCP - Male Chauvinist Pig.

I did not say that it is happening only in brahmin families. But it does in brahmin families.

If a boy can make unreasonable demand, absolute command, powerful orders, total control etc., etc., and yet seek a meek submissive female in marriage, the girl too has that right to look for such a male.

These days it is not the girls alone who wait indefinitely and desperately but many of the boys too have that fate.

If a good number of boys are MCPs the girls are just Raakshasis. What is needed is counselling to the boys and girls and their parents.

Who is going to bell the cat?

 

[Nacchinarkiniyan]

MCP - Male Chauvinist Pig.
I did not say that it is happening only in brahmin families. But it does in brahmin families.
If a boy can make unreasonable demand, absolute command, powerful orders, total control etc., etc., and yet seek a meek submissive female in marriage, the girl too has that right to look for such a male.
These days it is not the girls alone who wait indefinitely and desperately but many of the boys too have that fate.
If a good number of boys are MCPs the girls are just Raakshasis. What is needed is counselling to the boys and girls and their parents.
Who is going to bell the cat?[/COLOR]

We had discussed this in detail in almost a hundred threads. I am giving below some of them

Many of us have faced this problem as parents of Boys/Girls.

Please see these threads.

http://www.tamilbrahmins.com/genera...gressiveness-girls-history-introspection.html

http://www.tamilbrahmins.com/general-discussions/10950-non-marraige-brahmin-men.html

http://www.tamilbrahmins.com/genera...e-parents-arrange-inter-brahmin-marriage.html

We were holding Naveena Swayamvarams in 2010.

 

[v arun kumar]

Dear Ravi,

Anyone with minimal grey matter and not hooked to a life support machine and clinically not brain dead can make out emotions when they see it well spelled out.

What a vivid description, but why so many caveats minimal grey matter, on life support, and clinically brain dead, god,,,,,, thank god u did not add septicaemia & bed sores, with pulmonary embolism. Dementia is naturally ruled out due to absence of brainwaves due to the person being brain dead.

 

[renuka]

What a vivid description, but why so many caveats minimal grey matter, on life support, and clinically brain dead, god,,,,,, thank god u did not add septicaemia & bed sores, with pulmonary embolism. Dementia is naturally ruled out due to absence of brainwaves due to the person being brain dead.

One has to think of worst case scenario!

 

[renuka]

If a good number of boys are MCPs the girls are just Raakshasis. What is needed is counselling to the boys and girls and their parents.

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I am wondering?? Don't these guys and girls want to get laid?
By delaying marriage I dont see that happening..or may be they have Friends with Benefits arrangement!LOL

 

[biswa]

This post is rather one-sided and does not seem indicative of all the situations in the 21st century.

Eight out of ten TB boys are MCPs despite the best education, good job and sober living habits. It is something they pick up as family value from elders (mainly from the father). It is this deeply embedded bad value in the psyche which is challenged today by equally arrogant and immature TB girls who have the new found economic freedom going straight to their head like raw Vodka. Even if the girl and boy earn a monthly income in five figures, the girl has to account for her expenses to her husband while she can not ask similar questions to her husband. Even if the girl is held up in her workplace upto 9 in the night because of demands of workplace, she has to rush back home after finishing work and cook comething to feed the husband who will "patiently/impatiently" wait for it. If the husband has bad habits, which come freely with increasing income, she has to steel herself to receive him coming home on all fours-crawling-and spraying his stomach juices every where in the house. If the in laws stay with her she has to take the darts well aimed and thrown at her relentlessly after taking them all in her workplace once during the day. The one value which like a Lakshman Rekha keeps daunting her is "don't take the extreme step. It destroys every thing and you get nothing". If the child makes a demand that he/she be taken out at the odd hour in the night the mother obliges because she does not want to dispoint him/her, she can still manage to marshall that last bit of energy in her physical system to go out with him/her, she can tell the child to forget every thing he/she saw happening in the house and she can not appear to be failing in her own eyes. And the final denouement comes when the husband comes to the forum here to lecture about the tyranny of his wife or about TB girls. She has just one word for this charade -MCPs.

 

[Raji Ram]

Dear Vaagmi Sir,

Your post on MCPs! You are talking about those who got married before three decades!

The lady in your description is a rare commodity now! :spy:

 

[Vaagmi]

Dear Vaagmi Sir,

Your post on MCPs! You are talking about those who got married before three decades!
The lady in your description is a rare commodity now! :spy:

Dear RR madam,

No. If a survey is done and girls are asked to honestly tell what they have to say about their marriages to such MCPs you will find the truth in what I have said. You do not have to go back three decades for that. Even today many of the TB girls and boys live in an uncomfortable marriage bond. The stigma and the fear of the waiting unknown is what is holding them back from taking the extreme step of a divorce. What is badly needed is the right perception on the part of boys and girls and no effort seems to be made by the community in this. It is not that every girl who lives with an MCP quits the association and go separate.

 

[Vaagmi]

Renukaji,

I am wondering?? Don't these guys and girls want to get laid?
By delaying marriage I dont see that happening..or may be they have Friends with Benefits arrangement!LOL

Lo. You did not get it. The rakshasis are mostly azhakaana rakshasis (adi manasa aruvaamanai pottu arukkara rakshasikal) and the MCPs and nonMCPs fall for their enticing curves. They are lost for a long time(getting laid and all that happens) in those breathtaking curves like the chaturmukha brahma was lost in the stem of the nApikkamalam of the Prabrahmam after losing his script. Chaturmukha brahma had all the time for tracing his script to start the creation but these MCP/nonMCP boys and rakshasis have little time when they wake up. They go for a quickie, the divorce, when they get their script back. Poor things.

 

[Raji Ram]

Dear Vaagmi Sir,

In my family circle (Ram's side) there is one ammAk kOndu (a.k) nephew, who had an arranged marriage and a niece who

married one a.k boy! The wife of the first a.k got the divorce and remarried; the niece is separated from the second a.k but

has not decided about the divorce yet!

In my friends' circle, one love marriage ended in a divorce. The non bram girl who married my tambram friend's son, earned

enough money for seven years and sent to her family in a village in Andhra. The poor guy had to shell out money for every

expense and the girl sent the whole salary to her parents. Another friend's son too got his divorce from the girl whom he

chose as his 'Aishwarya Rai' and lost all his earnings on compensation paid to that girl, who reported domestic violence!

She created scars and wounds to prove it in court! The pauper boy who got a pink slip too is on job hunt now!

From these examples, I thought women's lib is at its peak now! :moony:

 

[C RAVI]

Dear Vaagmi Sir,

In my family circle (Ram's side) there is one ammAk kOndu (a.k) nephew, who had an arranged marriage and a niece who

married one a.k boy! The wife of the first a.k got the divorce and remarried; the niece is separated from the second a.k but

has not decided about the divorce yet!

In my friends' circle, one love marriage ended in a divorce. The non bram girl who married my tambram friend's son, earned

enough money for seven years and sent to her family in a village in Andhra. The poor guy had to shell out money for every

expense and the girl sent the whole salary to her parents. Another friend's son too got his divorce from the girl whom he

chose as his 'Aishwarya Rai' and lost all his earnings on compensation paid to that girl, who reported domestic violence!

She created scars and wounds to prove it in court! The pauper boy who got a pink slip too is on job hunt now!

From these examples, I thought women's lib is at its peak now! :moony:

Any terminology for these liberated women like that of MCPs?

 

[Raji Ram]

Any terminology for these liberated women like that of MCPs?

How about SLF - Sow Liberated Female??
P.S: sow = a fully grown female pig (word chosen for the sake of gender equality!! eace: )

 

[renuka]

Any terminology for these liberated women like that of MCPs?

SOW(Self Obsessed Woman)

 

[renuka]

Guys these days are POW (Prisoner of Woes)!LOL

 

[V.Balasubramani]

Any terminology for these liberated women like that of MCPs?

Sir,

When MCP stands for Male Chauvinist Pigs... why can't refer them simply as FCP = Famale Chauvinist Pigs.



　
Source: Wikipedia

Female chauvinism
is the symmetrical attitude that
women are superior to men. The term female chauvinism has been adopted by critics of some types or aspects of feminism; second-wave feminist Betty Friedan is a notable example.[14]Ariel Levy used the term in similar, but opposite sense in her book, Female Chauvinist Pigs, in which she argues that many young women in the United States and beyond are replicating male chauvinism and older misogyniststereotypes.[15]

 

[renuka]

Sir,

When MCP stands for Male Chauvinist Pigs... why can't refer them simply as FCP = Famale Chauvinist Pigs.
　

Dear Sir,

Pig is for a Chiranjeevin and Sow is for a Sowbhagyavathi.

So it has to be Female Chauvinist Sows.

 

[sravna]

Dear Sir,

Pig is for a Chiranjeevin and Sow is for a Sowbhagyavathi.

So it has to be Female Chauvinist Sows.

Dear Renuka,

The sows have been liberated from the chauvinist pigs. So it should be LFS (Liberated Female sows)

 

[renuka]

Dear Renuka,

The sows have been liberated from the chauvinist pigs. So it should be LFS (Liberated Female sows)

Dear Sravna,

Bondage is just an illusion..technically we are all born free..its Maya that makes a person feel trapped!LOL

 

[renuka]

Sravna,

Remember the story where Indra was born as pig and was happy with his pig family and did not want to come back to Indra loka??

So you see its Maya that makes all of us PIGS!


When Indra Became A Hog



By Sri Suvyakta Narsimha DasaOnce upon a time, the king of the demigods, Indra, happened to offend Brihaspathi, the spiritual master of the demigods. Due to Indra’s disrespecting Brihaspathi, he was cursed to take birth as a hog on earth. In due course of time, Indra took birth as a hog on earth and he grew up to have his own little family of hogs with a wife and children.

However, in the heavenly kingdom, svargaloka, things were not going well due to the absence of King Indra. Brahmaji, the creator of this material world, seeing that the administration of the universe was not going on smoothly due to the absence of Indra, took it upon himself to bring Indra back.Brahmaji travelled to earth and located Indra, who was in the form of a hog. Brahmaji informed the hog that he was actually Indra and had several immense responsibilities waiting for him in svargaloka. However, the hog was unimpressed.

The hog replied to Brahmaji that he was too busy with his responsibilities towards his family of hogs. He had to take care of his wife, tend to his children who were growing up etc. Brahmaji tried in many ways to convince the hog to give up his abominable life and return to svargaloka, but to no avail. At last, when Brahmaji saw that the hog was unrelenting, he used his mystic power to turn the hog back into Indra’s original body.

When Indra got back his body of a demigod, he was shocked at his deplorable life as a hog and was relieved that he had been released from such an abominable condition of life. He willingly and happily returned with Brahmaji to resume his responsible position in svargaloka.The above incident illustrates how a person becomes extremely attached to his temporary body and is unwilling to give it up even if he is living in the most distressing conditions and is promised of a better life after this one.

When Indra Became A Hog

 

[Raji Ram]

Guys these days are POW (Prisoner of Woes)!LOL

Renu!

Parents can search for 'SOW-kku Eththa POW' like 'jAdikku Eththa moodi'!!

 

[Raji Ram]

........ The sows have been liberated from the chauvinist pigs. So it should be LFS (Liberated Female sows)

:nono: Sravna Sir!

It should be only SLF because it sounds like Sowbhagyavathi Liberated Female!