Creating Artificial Intelligence

[sravna]

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Hi Spiritual Masters,
My spiritual antenna locked in on this frequency where it picked up some familiar voices talking about spirituality and AI. Then I read through your discussions and found that Sravna was now pretending to be God Himself and endowing spiritual powers to AI Robots and machines. Wow. I couldn't resist chipping in.
Sravna, I think you are jumping ahead too fast in to creationism. Spirit is the part of "Paramatman" that is resident in you. As it is you were trying to influence physical objects with spiritual powers and not succeeded in my opinion. Now you are already to the next level of mind control over AI machines. Are you trying to be the "Paramatman" for AI machines?
Stay with first establishing the basic science of spirituality.
As usual you are being egged on by band of veteran spiritualists including Renuka.
I am not sure if Renuka is agreeing or arguing with you!
Are you trying to create AI machines with "Sravna" spirits?
What is the name of your species?

Dear Shri Sundar,

A voice from America. I understand you would not believe in spirit and no reason to get rattled by spirituality. A spiritual AI would embrace one and all.

 

[renuka]

What are you, besides a doctor who loves the loud silence of the dead?

What do you want me to be?

 

[raysundar]

What do you want me to be?

I believe in another thread of discussion you were the "evil spirit" messing with the experiment! I am not sure what "shaitan" you are in the present discussion. As far as I can see you are multi disciplinary talented Sanskrit/English spiritual scholar!

 

[renuka]

I believe in another thread of discussion you were the "evil spirit" messing with the experiment! I am not sure what "shaitan" you are in the present discussion. As far as I can see you are multi disciplinary talented Sanskrit/English spiritual scholar!

Agreed..Multifaceted Shaitan..sometimes I have no idea what I am too!LOL

 

[GANESH65]

Sorry for putting my nose so late in this thread. I think the OP was related to developing of AI through spiritualism.

I am starting this thread for members to thrash out ideas on how to create AI using spiritual energy.

My opinion is AI can be developed from and for any kind of knowledge. I believe independent thoughts which leads to any kind of invention or ideology could be called as AI. The very thought of finding something that's non existent is what I would like to call AI. That way AI is not limited to spirituality only. Okay the spirituality may improvise the quality of AI which I don't want to argue.

 

[sravna]

Since spiritual energy is the capacity to do physical and mental work, the energy from AI will be able to solve even health problems if it is directed to the person's body.

 

[renuka]

Since spiritual energy is the capacity to do physical and mental work, the energy from AI will be able to solve even health problems if it is directed to the person's body.

Dear Sravna,

Out here where I stay some traditional healers use the help of paranormal entities called Jinn to cure and solve health problems.

In fact Jinns are used to set fractures of bones right.

I don't know how these Jinns have Orthopedic skills but many patients who have had horrible fractures have recovered after Jinn Orthopedic treatment.


So if you can employ a Jinn to animate your AI it could help to treat diseases.

BTW there are 2 types of Jinns..according to mythology.

One is the Islamic Jinn and the other is the Kafir Jinn.


Kafir Jinn again there are two types:

1)Regular Kafir Jinn which is subject to death.

2)Iblis..who is not subject to death but will be judged on Qiamat day.


I have no idea which Jinn you might want to employ.

 

[Vaagmi]

Dear Sravna,
If u are going to engage a jinn please engage Iblis. You will at least be sure Qiamat se Qiamat tak. LOL.

 

[Vaagmi]

Dear Sravna,
If u are going to engage a jinn please engage Iblis. You will at least be sure Qiamat se Qiamat tak. LOL.

Now I am sure about one thing. I am sure to receive a thums down soon. LOL. If I dont I will be sad.

 

[sravna]

Dear Sravna,
If u are going to engage a jinn please engage Iblis. You will at least be sure Qiamat se Qiamat tak. LOL.

Dear Renuka and Shri Vaagmi,

I do not understand what you both say.

 

[raysundar]

Qiamat se Qiamat tak. LOL.

As usual Renuka shows off her multilingual talent. Look, Renuka, we TB's all can usually understand Brahmin languages like Sanskrit or its derivative Hindi. When you used those you would care to translate. But now you use a satanic language like Urdu and don't bother to translate it. It's almost like cursing someone in a language that he/she does not understand so you and your friends can have a chuckle. So please explain, O talented one!

 

[renuka]

As usual Renuka shows off her multilingual talent. Look, Renuka, we TB's all can usually understand Brahmin languages like Sanskrit or its derivative Hindi. When you used those you would care to translate. But now you use a satanic language like Urdu and don't bother to translate it. It's almost like cursing someone in a language that he/she does not understand so you and your friends can have a chuckle. So please explain, O talented one!

Qiamat or Qayamat is an Arabic word meaning Judgment day.

Hindi too uses this import word freely..any Indian would know the meaning of this word. Vaagmi Ji being the Alpha TB male too knew the meaning of Qiamat.

BTW there is no language in this world that solely belongs to Satan...for Satan speaks in a silence so cold that your brains freeze to death.

 

[renuka]

Dear Ray,

On a serious note...I am surprised you find Urdu satanic...its actually very poetic..its a Rhapsody of Hindi,Persian and Arabic.

Arabic script used to write Urdu too is a beautiful script which is fully cursive from beginning to the end...written from right to left.

I enjoy writing the script as much as I enjoy Devanagari. Simply divine.


Just to also add....Languages have no caste.

 

[sravna]

Just to also add....Languages have no caste.

I agree and let me add that I know neither urdu nor sanskrit.

 

[renuka]

I agree and let me add that I know neither urdu nor sanskrit.

Dear Sravna,

I would recommend you to learn Sanskrit...you will love it...its never too late to study a language.

In fact its recommended to study a new language for healthy brain function as to prevent dementia changes.

At present I am studying Arabic just for the fun of it...just to move out of my comfort zone.

You should try Sanskrit...I am sure you will pick it up fast..no doubt about that.

 

[sravna]

Dear Sravna,

I would recommend you to learn Sanskrit...you will love it...its never too late to study a language.

In fact its recommended to study a new language for healthy brain function as to prevent dementia changes.

At present I am studying Arabic just for the fun of it...just to move out of my comfort zone.

You should try Sanskrit...I am sure you will pick it up fast..no doubt about that.

Renuka,

I definitely want to try. I am sure it will be very rewarding.

 

[Vaagmi]

Qiamat or Qayamat is an Arabic word meaning Judgment day.

Hindi too uses this import word freely..any Indian would know the meaning of this word. Vaagmi Ji being the Alpha TB male too knew the meaning of Qiamat.

BTW there is no language in this world that solely belongs to Satan...for Satan speaks in a silence so cold that your brains freeze to death.

What is alpha,beta or Gamma TB male? I just do not know. Renukaji are you giving a complement or gaali?

 

[renuka]

What is alpha,beta or Gamma TB male? I just do not know. Renukaji are you giving a complement or gaali?

Dear Vaagmi Ji...I am pretty sure you know its a compliment!LOL

Its just that I find it strange that people use English so freely which is not the native language of anyone with Indian DNA yet can't accept commonly used Arabic loan word Qiamat/Qayamat which has found its way into Urdu/Hindi.

I wonder how these types swear? Only in English?

That would be too bad cos English is not power packed enough to rupture ear drums unlike well known swear words from the Indian subcontinent.

Since the person also said that TBs do not understand certain languages..so I wrote saying that when a Alpha male TB Vaagmi Ji understands the word Qiamat I do not see any reason why other Non Alphas cant get it!LOL


BTW Vaagmi Ji...if I write a galiyaan...it would be very evident!LOL

Therefore Ma Suchah(Don't worry)...Alpha or A or Alif or அ or अ ......the A kara is always the first ...as in :

குறள் 1:
அகர முதல எழுத்தெல்லாம் ஆதி
பகவன் முதற்றே உலகு

 

[sravna]

Creating intelligence without spiritual energy is far from easy. It is the formidable challenge that AI scientists face. With the inbuilt intelligence of spiritual energy the task becomes really simplified.

 

[Vaagmi]

Dear Vaagmi Ji...I am pretty sure you know its a compliment!LOL

Its just that I find it strange that people use English so freely which is not the native language of anyone with Indian DNA yet can't accept commonly used Arabic loan word Qiamat/Qayamat which has found its way into Urdu/Hindi.

I wonder how these types swear? Only in English?

That would be too bad cos English is not power packed enough to rupture ear drums unlike well known swear words from the Indian subcontinent.

Since the person also said that TBs do not understand certain languages..so I wrote saying that when a Alpha male TB Vaagmi Ji understands the word Qiamat I do not see any reason why other Non Alphas cant get it!LOL


BTW Vaagmi Ji...if I write a galiyaan...it would be very evident!LOL

Therefore Ma Suchah(Don't worry)...Alpha or A or Alif or அ or अ ......the A kara is always the first ...as in :

குறள் 1:
அகர முதல எழுத்தெல்லாம் ஆதி
பகவன் முதற்றே உலகு

Renukaji,

Thanks for the compliments. But there is also a problem. If an alpha TB male has to be alpha really you may think that he should be having an appendage called kudumi, a few ash/chalk marks all over the body, with his dhoti tucked behind in a panchakachcham, (a pot belly will be a plus), holding his nose and throwing up water every day three times etc., Unfortunately I do not fit into this category. So perhaps this alpha is a different alpha. You may have to sort it out. Good wishes.

Let me settle this once for all: It is hereby made known to members here that I know the following laguages fairly well (means I can read, write, speak and even understand nuances of a kavithai in the language concerned).

1. Tamil - mother tongue.
2. Malayalam
3. English
4. Hindi
5. Sanskrit-self taught.
6. Maratti, Gujarathi only a smattering.

Now I hope this will save people from struggling with alpha beta and gamma. LOL.

 

[renuka]

Renukaji,

Thanks for the compliments. But there is also a problem. If an alpha TB male has to be alpha really you may think that he should be having an appendage called kudumi, a few ash/chalk marks all over the body, with his dhoti tucked behind in a panchakachcham, (a pot belly will be a plus), holding his nose and throwing up water every day three times etc., Unfortunately I do not fit into this category. So perhaps this alpha is a different alpha. You may have to sort it out. Good wishes.

.

Dear Vaagmi Ji,

Outwards signs and symptoms do not make one an Alpha.

jaTilo muNDii luJNchhitakeshaH
kaashhaayaambarabahukRitaveshhaH .
pashyannapi cana pashyati muuDhaH
udaranimittaM bahukRitaveshhaH .. (14)

There are many who go with matted locks, many who have clean shaven heads, many whose hairs have been plucked out; some are clothed in saffron, yet others in various colors — all just for a livelihood. Seeing truth revealed before them, still the foolish ones see it not. Stanza attributed to Totakacharya.

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http://srikrishnaradha.com/bhaja-govindam/


True Genetically Alphas are highly sought by Cryogenic Labs!LOL

 

[renuka]

Creating intelligence without spiritual energy is far from easy. It is the formidable challenge that AI scientists face. With the inbuilt intelligence of spiritual energy the task becomes really simplified.

Sravna...just say in your experiment to make an AI..something goes wrong and your AI becomes a [FONT=&quot]மக்கு ([/FONT]Makku)

Ok..how would you handle the AI..would you dispose him off?

I had seen a TV series called Second Chance where the dead are brought back to life using techniques that make them young again...new good looking body and super intelligent,super strong etc.

But some of the not so perfect ones were disposed and later resurrected by some criminal minded and the not so perfect ones were hell bent on revenge.


So in your case of your AI..how would you handle a Makku AI?

Would you be humane?


BTW Sravna...have you started at least building some blocks of your AI?

 

[sravna]

Sravna...just say in your experiment to make an AI..something goes wrong and your AI becomes a மக்கு (Makku)

Ok..how would you handle the AI..would you dispose him off?

I had seen a TV series called Second Chance where the dead are brought back to life using techniques that make them young again...new good looking body and super intelligent,super strong etc.

But some of the not so perfect ones were disposed and later resurrected by some criminal minded and the not so perfect ones were hell bent on revenge.


So in your case of your AI..how would you handle a Makku AI?

Would you be humane?


BTW Sravna...have you started at least building some blocks of your AI?

Yes I have started working on it. I think you have not yet understood the concept. The intelligence is provided by the spiritual energy created by my mind. It is naturally created and an inbuilt intelligence of spiritual energy. No question of disposing it off though higher quality versions can be produced with increasing spirituality of mind.

I think the most challenging task for a scientist is creating intelligent energy akin to spiritual energy. That is why creating AI without using spiritual energy is almost impossible.

 

[renuka]

Yes I have started working on it. I think you have not yet understood the concept. The intelligence is provided by the spiritual energy created by my mind. It is naturally created and an inbuilt intelligence of spiritual energy. No question of disposing it off though higher quality versions can be produced with increasing spirituality of mind.

I think the most challenging task for a scientist is creating intelligent energy akin to spiritual energy. That is why creating AI without using spiritual energy is almost impossible.

Dear Sravna,

I feel you have NOT understood the concept!LOL

What you call as spiritual energy is the Consciousness that pervades everything alike...both animate and non animate.

The only difference is in animate subjects they have an activating system that is able to personalize and harness this consciousness to function.

Now this Consciousness remains "neutral" and does not confer any IQ to any animate subject.

When I say "neutral" I do not mean Neutral as in Neutral Charge..but I mean that it remains just the power source.

For example both a scientists (including mad ones) and a certified Makku have consciousness animating their whole system...both differ in IQ solely becos of exposure,genetics,education,environment and inherent nature shaped by upbringing culture etc.

So its not as if consciousness is absent in some places and present in some places.

In fact what you call spiritual energy pervades the entire universe from the smallest to the biggest.

So for you to make your AI...all you need to do is to create an activating system that can "trap" this consciousness and make it animate the program you have created to have an INDEPENDENT mind.

So all that depends on your design as how much you can confer independent thinking.

For sure it is not easy to mimic a human cos the human body is too complex and intricate to even understand.

If you could drop all this talk about spirituality and get technical by calling the animating power as Consciousness you could get somewhere.

Don't Makkufy the situation by presenting a case that an intelligent energy can not compare with spiritual energy.

What you see around you is ONLY the same consciousness..there is nothing else.

There is ONLY Consciousness...Makkus call it in many names!LOL

 

[sravna]

Dear Renuka,

Consciousness is a hallmark of higher beings and that is because higher energies like the mind and soul are self conscious. In the life forms the animating energy of the body is prana. I believe there is rudimentary consciousness of existence in life forms lower than mental beings. Prana does not produce spiritual energy.

Spiritual energy is a product of a spiritual mind and the mind is able to be spiritual because of the soul . So some people are able to project that energy into the external world. Since the energy has inbuilt intelligence and can do physical work it can solve real problems. AI is one such problem which can be explicitly solved by using spiritual energy. Unless scientists figure out a way of producing something like spiritual energy , human level intelligence cannot be created.