Creating Artificial Intelligence

[Vaagmi]

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Dear Vaagmi Ji,

Outwards signs and symptoms do not make one an Alpha.

jaTilo muNDii luJNchhitakeshaH
kaashhaayaambarabahukRitaveshhaH .
pashyannapi cana pashyati muuDhaH
udaranimittaM bahukRitaveshhaH .. (14)

There are many who go with matted locks, many who have clean shaven heads, many whose hairs have been plucked out; some are clothed in saffron, yet others in various colors — all just for a livelihood. Seeing truth revealed before them, still the foolish ones see it not. Stanza attributed to Totakacharya.

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http://srikrishnaradha.com/bhaja-govindam/


True Genetically Alphas are highly sought by Cryogenic Labs!LOL

Will deep frozen alphas still remain alphas when the time comes?

 

[raysundar]

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Since the energy has inbuilt intelligence and can do physical work it can solve real problems. AI is one such problem which can be explicitly solved by using spiritual energy. Unless scientists figure out a way of producing something like spiritual energy , human level intelligence cannot be created.

As an engineer/scientist I looked into the work-energy equation in its fullest form. Scientist have not included Spiritual energy in their equations. May be Sravna should look into that and see if after all the work and energy are taken into account is there still any un-accounted for energy?
Just a "mad scientist's" thought in trying to rationalize Sravna's efforts.

 

[sravna]

As an engineer/scientist I looked into the work-energy equation in its fullest form. Scientist have not included Spiritual energy in their equations. May be Sravna should look into that and see if after all the work and energy are taken into account is there still any un-accounted for energy?
Just a "mad scientist's" thought in trying to rationalize Sravna's efforts.

Dear Shri Sundar,

Scientists look at physical phenomena. Spiritual energy is the result of mental phenomena. Scientists should start looking for the mind to find spiritual energy.

 

[renuka]

Dear Shri Sundar,

Scientists look at physical phenomena. Spiritual energy is the result of mental phenomena. Scientists should start looking for the mind to find spiritual energy.

Have you located the mind Sravna?

Before that...do not use your brain to locate the mind cos the brain is a physical organ.

 

[sravna]

Dear Renuka,

You should understand I am not against everything physical. There are two realities that we confront, physical and spiritual. We need to learn to cope up with both. You live physically in the physical world and so you need to learn to live in the physical world but your mind is in a different reality and you need to listen to the mind and soul also. As your mind matures it helps you break the shackles of the physical reaity amd eventually liberates you from it. But till then it is a fine balance.

 

[sravna]

Dear Renuka,

It is the mind that does the real thinking. It just gets reflected in the brain. Brain I believe provides the physical context and complete the thoughts.

 

[renuka]

Dear Renuka,

You should understand I am not against everything physical. There are two realities that we confront, physical and spiritual. We need to learn to cope up with both. You live physically in the physical world and so you need to learn to live in the physical world but your mind is in a different reality and you need to listen to the mind and soul also. As your mind matures it helps you break the shackles of the physical reaity amd eventually liberates you from it. But till then it is a fine balance.

Dear Sravna,

You said earlier that scientist should start looking for the mind...yet you cant mention its location.

To look for something it needs to be located somewhere.

Its that simple a logic...yet you keep talking on and on and do not answer questions posed to you.

It just translates to zero credibility.

 

[sravna]

Dear Sravna,

You said earlier that scientist should start looking for the mind...yet you cant mention its location.

To look for something it needs to be located somewhere.

Its that simple a logic...yet you keep talking on and on and do not answer questions posed to you.

It just translates to zero credibility.

Dear Renuka,

If you ask my view I would say mind in located in the dimensions of time just as matter is located in space.

 

[renuka]

Dear Renuka,

If you ask my view I would say mind in located in the dimensions of time just as matter is located in space.

Dear Sravna,

That means its like how all our data is stored in One Cloud?

If that is so..that means I should be able to hack your mind isn't it if I have the capability.

But why do we rarely or hardly see that happening...people hacking into each others mind?

The mind according to philosophy is located in the subtle body which is obviously personalized.

The mind according to philosophy has 4 functions...Manas,Buddhi,Ahamkara and Chitta.

It is individualized in its function.


BTW going by your understanding that Mind is located in the dimensions of time...lets get technical here.


Just say there is just 1 moment left for the Yuga to change and it changes...since you say mind is located in the dimensions of time ..so does the Mind and previous stored data of a person exists or not cos a whole new era has started..its like the Y2K phenomenon in other words.

Would minds of humans exists in change of Yuga?


I believe it would still exists cos Thoughts are independent of time.

 

[sravna]

Dear Renuka,

When tha maya in a soul is unveiled enough, mind comes into existence. Once the mind comes into existence it does not cease to exist until liberation when it becomes one with the soul. So mind will definitely see past the yugas.

 

[renuka]

Dear Sravna,

So can you enumerate the steps in locating the mind to aid scientists in finding it as you suggested.

 

[sravna]

Dear Sravna,

So can you enumerate the steps in locating the mind to aid scientists in finding it as you suggested.

Dear Renuka,

You experience the conscious functions of the mind in your consciousness. There is a sub conscious part to it too. Ultimately you perceive everything. The mind has to evolve for all this.

To answer your question directly, it cannot be detected by physical instruments.

 

[renuka]

Dear Renuka,

You experience the conscious functions of the mind in your consciousness. There is a sub conscious part to it too. Ultimately you perceive everything. The mind has to evolve for all this.

To answer your question directly, it cannot be detected by physical instruments.

If so then why did you tell Ray that scientists need to locate the mind?

So Sravna...how do you propose scientist do that?

With the help of someone with spiritual powers?

Like yesterday I got an email from a spiritual website after being banned there from asking questions!LOL

Well they had conducted some experiments with regards to languages and scripts and spirituality and they came to a conclusion that spiritual energy is highest in Sanskrit written in Devanagari script!LOL

I found it real biased co its totally baseless a claim.

What has spirituality got to do with a language and its font?

Ok now the best part..some high tech experiment was done with the aid of highly evolved individuals(they claim) who can sense spiritual energy and they came to this conclusion.

Well..I found that whole experiment totally baseless cos human error would be very high.

I was banned long back from asking questions cos of some weird questions I asked!LOL

 

[sravna]

If so then why did you tell Ray that scientists need to locate the mind?

So Sravna...how do you propose scientist do that?

With the help of someone with spiritual powers?

Dear Renuka,

I am only against the current philosophy of science which considers everything that cannot be detected by physical instruments or sense organs as not existing. It is a myopic view and needs correction. Science can evolve where it will be able to understand the existence of mind but it has to become more open minded to accomplish that.

 

[renuka]

Dear Renuka,

I am only against the current philosophy of science which considers everything that cannot be detected by physical instruments or sense organs as not existing. It is a myopic view and needs correction. Science can evolve where it will be able to understand the existence of mind but it has to become more open minded to accomplish that.

Dear Sravna,

The current day scientist do not really think of the lines of everything is only physical and nothing beyond.

Its just as humans we need our sense organs and physical body to make a fact known.

Even you need your physical body and sense organs to use "spiritual" powers that too subject the laws of physics if it would work or not.

The experiment of the hot water not cooling down faster was a good eye opener that spiritual energy did not work.

Analysis as why it did not work still hasn't be given.

 

[sravna]

Dear Sravna,

The current day scientist do not really think of the lines of everything is only physical and nothing beyond.

Its just as humans we need our sense organs and physical body to make a fact known.

Even you need your physical body and sense organs to use "spiritual" powers that too subject the laws of physics if it would work or not.

Dear Renuka,

The scientists are indeed beginning to understand the futility of holding on to their beliefs and that I think that is a step in the right direction.

Regarding the experiment I have does it myself before with success and I have already given my views on why it failed.

 

[sravna]

The main work is in converting the input which would be the thoughts of the person posing the query to the wavelength and frequency of the simulated mind which would do all the processing and give back the output as thoughts. The thoughts from the mind need to be converted to the frequency of the brain of the person posing the query.

 

[sravna]

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[sravna]

It seems to me now that hardware itself is not necessary. This is what I do. I create an equivalent of mind and instead of people using hardware to tune into to it, I use thoughts to inform it to sync with the brain of the person and makes its resources available to that person. My mind is not in any way connected to that mind created.

I plan to try it out on a few people and I will let you know the results.

 

[renuka]

It seems to me now that hardware itself is not necessary. This is what I do. I create an equivalent of mind and instead of people using hardware to tune into to it, I use thoughts to inform it to sync with the brain of the person and makes its resources available to that person. My mind is not in any way connected to that mind created.

I plan to try it out on a few people and I will let you know the results.

OMG Sravna...please spare innocent people of your experiment(even though it might not work!LOL)

If you really must experiment on someone then you have to start with your own flesh and blood first cos that way you do not harm anyone unrelated to you.

There needs to be some ethics.

Would you dare try it out on your own flesh and blood?

 

[sravna]

OMG Sravna...please spare innocent people of your experiment(even thought it might not work!LOL)

If you really must experiment on someone then you have to start with your own flesh and blood first cos that way you do not harm anyone unrelated to you.

There needs to be some ethics.

Would you dare try it out on your own flesh and blood?

Dear Renuka,

Yes waiting for the results on my family members and only after their consent. Let us wait and see.

 

[sravna]

Dear Folks,

A clinching evidence for spirituality is out. The experiment I used in bestowing spiritual power to others is working. One of the family members to whom I bestowed the power has autonomously solved a health problem. It will be unmistakable to others that spiritual power exists. It can be no longer be dismissed as a delusional experience of a person and so non existent but something which has been proven to exist by giving that capability to other persons.

An exciting development folks.

 

[renuka]

No Sravna...its still not evidence cos there is no neutral witness.

Your family members could be just tolerating you and bearing all the stress dealing with you and just go along with you to satisfy your quest of a non existent spiritual power Sravna.


Sravna....its Diwali tomorrow...let some light illuminate your mind and give it a rest.

 

[sravna]

No Sravna...its still not evidence cos there is no neutral witness.

Your family members could be just tolerating you and bearing all the stress dealing with you and just go along with you to satisfy your quest of a non existent spiritual power Sravna.


Sravna....its Diwali tomorrow...let some light illuminate your mind and give it a rest.

Renuka to your response all I can say is some people just refuse to accept reality even though the proof is undeniable.

 

[sravna]

Many people have grown up to be too much influenced by the worldly reality and this becomes ingrained in them. It is a tall order to remove these influences the main problem being their adamance rather than their ability to see logic.