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Dear RR maam , have you watched this? If not please do so and also reading the book gives a real thrill than watching the movie!! ....
ஏன் நண்பரே! நான் நிம்மதியாக உறங்க வேண்டாமோ? :sleep:
Omen படம் பார்த்த பின், ஒன்பது நாள் விளக்கு ஒளியில் உறங்கியவள் நான்!
எதற்காக risk?? :peep:
 
Somehow all Draculas are always so handsome.
Even in western movies The Devil is always so handsome till he turns angry!

I am sure our own Asuras in the Puranas would have been more handsome than any of the Devas!LOL
Just to denote their evil ways they are often described as ugly etc.

I am quite sure Asuras were handsome.

After all even Lord Rama was dumbstruck when he saw Ravana's good looks.

I feel Devas would have looked nerdy!LOL

You know come to think of it, I never thought about it that way before! I grew up reading Amar Chitra Kathas and there asuras were always ugly looking! And devas veryy handsome :)

If anyone has been to Bangkok's Suvarnabhumi International Airport check out for the beautiful lifelike statues of the churning of the milk depiction...i think the picture below are the asuras!

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You know come to think of it, I never thought about it that way before! I grew up reading Amar Chitra Kathas and there asuras were always ugly looking! And devas veryy handsome :)

If anyone has been to Bangkok's Suvarnabhumi International Airport check out for the beautiful lifelike statues of the churning of the milk depiction...i think the picture below are the asuras!

Sowbagyavathy Amala,

Asuras were brave and handsome. Even in that churning, Asuras took up the head side of the serpent resulting them coppint out the fury of the serpent and the poisonous fumes where as sissy devas took up the tail and had it easy; at the end, cheated the asuras in the nectar distribution too. But inspite of consuming nectar, devas got kicked around in every encounter they had with Asuras!

Cheers!
 
Dear Dr,
Your assumptionsare always correct. Yes i also feel the Asuras would have been Manly and strong and able to attract the fair sex in Dozens!! Still remember how handsome Ravana -T.K. Bagavthy looks in the film "Sampoorna ramayan".

And BTW the villains are always good looking and do well in the entire movie till the last frame!!
cheers.

Personally I don't feel tamil film villains are good looking at all. I think Ajith in Mankatha was like the only good looking villain ever.
 
Personally I don't feel tamil film villains are good looking at all. I think Ajith in Mankatha was like the only good looking villain ever.

Dear Amala,

We used to have Raghuvaran..he was a good looking villain.
Once even Prithiviraj took a villain role and outshone the hero Srikanth.

Prakashraj takes up villain roles well and he is not bad in the looks department.

Somehow I always like anti heroes types..bad boys are more interesting to watch on screen.

I used to love Shah Rukh Khan is all his anti hero movies..Baazigar, Anjaam etc.
 
Dear AmalaJi,

Like Dr.Renukaji says the grey shades done by SRK has out performed his heroic roles. His role in Darr was really good and the way he used to call Juhi was really good. Same goes for Kamal or Rajini.Their Villain roles were really good compared the goody goody hero roles. Do you feel Nambiar was bad looking or PS veerappa for that matter. Ranjan in old classic was a terror in his own way!! May be in the 80 & 90 to show the choclate hero the villains were made ugly in tamil movies!! What do you say?

Cheers.
 
This song is dedicated to all Asuras out there!LOL

[video=youtube_share;KnD4fa0NsSw]http://youtu.be/KnD4fa0NsSw[/video]
 
Dear Amala,

Deva and Asura type of guys:

Deva types:

1)Nerdy

2)Run to others for help(remember in Amar Chitta Katha all devas run to God for help without even trying to fight with Asuras! They were forever bugging God)

3)Lacks imagination

4)Lack of opportunity cos no gals payed them attention!LOL

5)Obsessive when they love someone cos they know it's hard to get a girl so they hold on tight like some octopus.

6)Become dumb as they age.Brains are in auto pilot mode.

7)Make good devotees of God no doubt about that.



Asura types

1)Good looking

2)Brave and strong.

3)Imagination is their middle name.

4)Girls give them all the opportunity.

5)Passionate but NOT Obsessive cos they know they still have market value!LOL

6)Become more intelligent as they age cos brains are always active and innovative.

7)Make the best fake Gurujis!
 
Dear Ranukaji,

Wow the Asuras would be clapping their hands in glee at the support they are getting !! We can add one or more qualities to the ones already mentioned by you.
9. Steadfast in their hate or Love till their end!!
10. Very Religious - either self or Shiva/Vishnu!!
11. No self Pity!!

cheers.
 
ManoharJi,

Firstly I have no idea who Veerappa is?! or Ranjan? Nambiar I've watched only when he was old villain so umm...no comments :). I agree with Kamal and Rajni even Sarathkumar and SathyaRaj! Sathyaraj..I miss his villain roles. He was charming, suave and very smooth as a villain. My favourite line of his " Kanna en character-iya purinjika matengiriya!.

Renu my bad. I completey forgot about the late Raghuvaran and of course Prakashraj. I am supposed to be a fan of these two but what a rubbish fan i am...i've forgotten about them! Actually since Prakashraj left his wife and married some Pony Verma, kinda turned off. But to be honest I've always found Prakashraj a much better hero/serious actor rather than a villain. I loved his acting in Abhiyum Naanum.
 
Dear Amala,

In the song I had posted above that features Actor Vikramaditya Shukla.
He has done bad boy roles in Tamil movies..I liked his movie Tholaipesi where he will be cheating on his wife.
The movie was all about how a guy used his handphone for all his extra marital flings.

But in that movie the actress who played his wife(Renuka Menon)...looked so homely and boring ..so I don't really blame the anti hero for cheating!LOL

I don't know why his career did not take off fully in Tamil.

I think in South India they are not fully ready to accept a North hero just like how in North they do not really accept a South hero even though the trend is changing now.. but girls are accepted everywhere!Ha Ha Ha


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Dear Amala,

I also liked Mukesh Tiwari for the baddie role he played in the movie Kandhasamy.
He has played baddie in many Tamil movies too.

How can anyone forget this?

"Ok Boss now let's listen to the rhythm of Chennai"


[video=youtube_share;_L76KDD9FI0]http://youtu.be/_L76KDD9FI0[/video]
 
Dear Amalaji,
agree on prakash Raj... his Chellam is so famouns as well his acting in Anniyan. Very versatile and amazing actor. i personally feel he would excel in comiedy also as his timing sense while acting with comerdians is amazing. Dont know why he hasnt tried that part as yet? His mastery over languages and with Bollywood also calling him his stature as good actor is on the highest now!! BTW if you have heard of tamil classic "Chandraleka" or get a chance lay your hands on a dvd do looka the movie made by SS Vasan of Gemini flms and the huge drum dance. Ranjan is the villain in that movie and TR Rajakumari the Heroine... Listen & see the song posted here... Yhe only song where Padmini & vyjayanthi mala danced tohgether. The villain enjoying the song is veerappa...
Vanjikottai Vaaliban - Kannum Kannum Kalandhu - YouTube

cheers...
 
Dear mohankumar Sir
I believe in blood drinking demoness( ratha kaateri) since when I was young I had an experience of seeing one!!
I think you must have visited a few times Thiruvothiyur Vadiudai Amman Koil, in north Chennai
Kateri ma also known as Parmeshwari ma is the last form of Mother Kali. She is both good and bad in different ways. She is not to be taken lightly! She is a Devi who can go anywhere, even the dirtiest places where other gods can't.

Vadivudai amman temple, Thiruvothiyoor, has a Kali sannadhi.
This Kali is was once roaming the streets of this town like Ratha Katteri.
Adi Sankaracharya, went there and put the evil under a well, and covered it with a stone.
If you happen to go over there any time, please visit APART FROM VADIVUDAI AMMAN SANNADHI, KALI SANNADHI ALSO and know the stala puranam from Gurukkal over there

That Kali developed many Stubhis around Thiruvothiyoor, and you can see them in different places.

A few meters away from the Main Temple, in the road leading to Chennai Mint, there is
ELLAI AMMAN TEMPLE.
You can ask anyone there, they will guide you.
This EllAI amman was also roaming the town, and in those days we used to learn one or two persons falling into the WELL kept over there.
The Pujari there used to give BALI in the form of Goat etc in those days, and devotees used to drink the blood.
Once there was custom of giving NARA BALI, but nowadays it is not allowed!!!

This is not a story, real, you can go over there and verify


regards

Padmanabhan.J
 
Greetings.

More on Asuras - Asuras could be so good and powerful, even Vishnu had to beg to overcome one Asura at one stage. Vaamana Avtar was assumed to beg alms from Maha Bali. When that short Vaamana after getting Maha bali's word grew to become Tri Vikrama, Maha Bali didn't bat an eye lid... offered his head for the third step... Devas can't even dream of becoming such graceful persons! One more reason to like Asuras!..

Cheers!
 
Dear Sri. Padmanabhan, Greetings.

I refer to your message in post #91. In my opinion, you are confusing 'Ratha Katteri' with Kali. Same with Ellai Amman too. They all are different deities. In my village most Mudaliar community visit 'Padavedu', to worship Renuka Devi. She is yet a different diety. I haven't heard of any animal or bird sacrifices to Renuka Devi.

Cheers!
 
Dear PJ Sir,

Yes I have visited thiruvottiyur Vadivudai amman and not once but many times. Yes the Kali side also i have seen and the story as written by you is true. Those days (some generations back) bali was being given there as per the poojari. Ellai amman also i have visited. These deities were called Kaval deivam correct me if i am wrong. BTW rattha katteri is it a goddess? I thought taht one was also part of the Ghost family and you had some good stories about them as well..

Cheers
 
Dear Raghy Sir,
Let me know if my views are correct. Renuka Devi is supposed to be Parasurama's mother and was beheaded by him as per the command of his father. And when his father happy with parasurama asked him for any wish he wanted his mother to be alive again, and while placing head ofhis mother on her bosy due to some confusion the head and body was interchanged with some other lady. And Ranuka devi was worshipped from that time.. I had read about this somewhere. May be i can re check on this. Yes no sacrifices are given at that place as u have mentioned.

Cheers.
 
Mohankumar sir/Raghy Sir
Greetings

Ellai Amman was worshiped as a goddess as people were afraid to call it as Katteri. it was once roaming the villages around that town; there used to be a time when Bali was offered to it to satisfy its blood thirsty; i an not sure about whether they follow that practice even now or not.
Coming back to my real life experence, my father was working as Postmaster, some time in 1946-47, and we were staying in the quarters attached to post office; this post office was nearer to that Ellai Amman Koil.

In those days, we were told that, this Amman used to roam in different in rupams and take people to its temple and push them into the well; every month one or two such cases were happening over there.
We used to sleep in the outside veranda, with Thinnai,( a form of cement pillow) outside.
One winter night, i was told. an old lady came and woke up my elder brother telling him that his friend is waiting there near Ellai Amman Temple.
He did not think much, and followed her. and after going some distance, came back telling her that i will see my friend in the morning as he was feeling very sleepy.
The old lady followed him back to home it seems, and woke up one my another elder brother telling him the same thing.
But he just pushed her with his leg and continued the sleep.
Later on , next morning we came to know that some one fell down in amman Well, and died.

This was a routine in those days.


The bodies used to be kept in a room adjacent to that temple for a few days before shifting them to GH.
Later on Post office also moved to another building in the same road, nearer to Theradi.

My aunt used to tell us that most of the village kula deivams like Muneeswaran, Ammas etc are a form blood thirsty semi
goddess, always demanding Bali.

More about muneeswaran in my next write up.
regards
Padmanabhan.J
 
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I can't wait for Muneeswarar write up! My trips to the Muneeswarar temple is always fascinating. eespecially the first time. I had never seen a deity served alchohol and with aruvaal and having a cigar thingy in his mouth before! I'm not sure if i saw correctly but I'm sure I've seen some guys even lighting it up. I have to admit my mother and I went only twice more for curiosity than anything and also because it was next to the Hanuman temple that we go to.
 
Dear Raghy sir
Greetings
"In my opinion, you are confusing 'Ratha Katteri' with Kali. Same with Ellai Amman too. They all are different deities."
I agree with you sir and i have no confusion in this.
Most village Kaval Deivams in the form of Muneeswaran,Ellai ammans are a different form of deities, then comes Ratha Kateri,Kolluvai Pishachu, Jadamuni, etc.
Normally for Village ammans, devotees only give what one calls' Padaippu" not neivedyam like what is normally devotees do in other type temples like Vinayaka, Muruga, Lakshmi etc
Also after doing the "padaippu" the devotees take that as only Padaippu and not as prasadam; please correct me if i am wrong.
But in the case of Village kula deivams like Ayyapa, it is only Neivedyam offered and after that it is called Prasadams.

Coming to Ratha Katteri, in this Ellai amma Koil case, i knew about it, as i was living there for 6 years in my early days.
In those days, although Ellai amman was not a Kateri, it was blood thirsty Amman and in those days devotees used to offer many goats, chickens etc.

Muneeswaran is also a type of village Kavalan, ferocious looking, and devotees used to offer Goad etc.

Jada muni is a different type; it is never worshiped as Kaval Deivam, but used to roam in the villages.
I was told by my elders, these Jada munis are really not harming type;

Once one of my our distant relative ,an old woman was possessed by one Jada muni, and even though that woman had no hairs on her head, she used to say" see my Jadai' like that.

I hope Amalaji is not scared reading this.

Muneeswarans were worshiped to drive away Pichachu ; in many villages, one might have noticed that a Pujari use neem leaves etc and thrash a person in front of muneeswaran temple.
When i was in Villivakkam, there was a house in the same road, where a pujari used to drive away Pichachu from the persons possessed by it.
We used to close our eyes and run past that home whenever we cross that home.
More to come....
 
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Thanks for the info PJ Sir. As I understand it village deity were outside the agamic pantheon and so the presiding priest in those temples are not Brahmins. Which is probably why its called padaippu and not naivedyam and have animal bali. I think now they are included or in the Vedic pantheon...or maybe not! Not sure..
 
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