Ghosts are real !!

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women are more jollu party than men , it seems.. correct doctors?

 

[Raghy]

Greetings.

Muneeswaran is our family deity. No JD or meat though..... poor Muneeswaran! Only rice pongal and jaggery for him. ( when ever my wife makes pongal without cashew nuts, i used to call it jokingly 'Muneeswaran pongal!'.. even now we use that term.... ). An aged gurukkal was our neighbour.. many times he said he could smell cigar from our house! Funny part was, this Muneeswaran would ask for a feed! One NB person would come along in an elderly persons dream ask for a feed! That was the sign by the looks of it!.. In comes Jayalakshmi ( our maid.. she had a lot of respect at our place), goes out to the paddy fields with rice, coconut and all the bits for a pooja.. she cooks the pongal for Muneeswan.

(Sorry for disapponting Sowbagyavathy Amala).

Cheers!

 

[P.J.]

Wishes!!
The Chotanikkarai Amma temple in Kerala is popular as it heals people who are possessed by ghosts. At the time of the Guruthi puja, you can visibly see spirits leaving the affected ones, accompanied by flying hair and shaking bodies. Faith healing does work because one believes in it.
”Seeking the wisdom of faith | Deccan Chronicle

One can witness a Pujari using neem leaves bunch on a possessed person to drive away the evil spirit from her in rural Amman Temples.
Samayapuram Temple in Trichy is also famous for driving away evil spirits from possessed people.
Someone with more info about this temple can throw more light on this.
In those days, elders use to caution youngsters about "KUKUDUPANDI KARAN".
People use to fear him because of his black magic powers.

I have seen possessed ladies with their hair spread running mad when the pujari thrash them with Neem, leaves bunch while i was in Villivakkam. The evil spirit then catches another person before leaving one!!!
In those days young girls were not permitted to go near any big Alamaram,Arasamaram, or Veppa Maram, after evening; even they were not allowed near the Farm Well, as there was a belief in those days, that Evil spirits dwell there and catch/possess young girls!!!
I was told by my elders that when an elderly brahmin dies with unfulilled wish, he may become jadamuni.
In that case i will have many unfulfilled wishes when i leave this earth, will i become a Jada Muni?
More to come..

 

[amala]

Dear Raghy mama,

I didn't realise Muneeswaran could be Iyengar people's family deity?! I'm very surprised.

 

[Raghy]

Dear Raghy mama,

I didn't realise Muneeswaran could be Iyengar people's family deity?! I'm very surprised.

Sowbagyavathy Amala, Greetings.

Most families in the villages have a family deity. Chances are, such deities poojas are conducted by non-brahmins. Some of the deities like chelli Amman, Gangai Amman and other Ammans have a temple, Sannithi and almost regular poojas. Some of these Ammans are pure vegetarians too! :hungry: Also there are cases, these deities have no temple. Kaatteri, Saptha Kannis, Jada Muni are examples. When I was young, these ideas were pretty cool!

Cheers!

 

[Raghy]

Sri. Padmanabhan, Greetings.

I was told by my elders that when an elderly brahmin dies with unfulilled wish, he may become jadamuni.
In that case i will have many unfulfilled wishes when i leave this earth, will i become a Jada Muni?

Sir, when looking at your picture, the chances are you may not become a "jada Muni"... you may qualify to become a " bald muni"!

Cheers!

 

[Raghy]

Sri. Manohar Kumar, Greetings.

Dear Raghy Sir,
Let me know if my views are correct. Renuka Devi is supposed to be Parasurama's mother and was beheaded by him as per the command of his father.

Yes. Renuka Devi was Parasurama's mother. More about Renuka Devi - Renuka - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

More about Padavedu - Arulmigu Renugambal Amman Temple, Padavedu, Thiruvannamalai, Tamilnadu Padavedu

Cheers!

 

[manoharkumar]

Dear Raghy Sir,

i used to have this experience of not able to move my arms or the legs, and feel like somebody is sitting on me and crushing me and my voice is choked, and at times i have woken up with severe headache and sometimes shouting also(making my wife even more freightened)... Used to tell her some bad dream but not the feeling of chokeness or not able to move my arm etc.
One of my friend used to say that there could a situation where in when you are in deep sleep, and suddenly your brain wakes up and the body reaction etc are delayed due to some problem with your nerves, the command from brain to your arms or legs is delayed and you have the feeling of not able to move your amrs or legs and feel heavy like stone.
Is there any thing like that our reaction is slow in waking up and we feel like choking etc? Or is this any silly thought invented by me friend.

Cheers.

 

[DR.C.NARAYANI]

Hello All ,Munniswaren does not comes under the title Ghost,They are KAAVAL DEIVAM:angel:, Its known as 7 Munni, in villages we /one can see a group of munni statues,but the last one KAADAI 7 MUNNI,will be of different height,build .In Chennai ,one can be famillar with the BODY GUARD MUNNI, of chennai central ,with all offerings liquor,cigars ,its mainly ,a new vehicle ,purchased, will surely,do pooja. one can see /heard of PAL MUNNI, who will be exactly opposite placed to any Ammam temple,2 /3 bricks in platform / near any neem tree ,will up date my own experience in short time ,still in work,(topic attracts .....???? ):fear:

 

[renuka]

Dear Raghy Sir,

i used to have this experience of not able to move my arms or the legs, and feel like somebody is sitting on me and crushing me and my voice is choked, and at times i have woken up with severe headache and sometimes shouting also(making my wife even more freightened)... Used to tell her some bad dream but not the feeling of chokeness or not able to move my arm etc.
One of my friend used to say that there could a situation where in when you are in deep sleep, and suddenly your brain wakes up and the body reaction etc are delayed due to some problem with your nerves, the command from brain to your arms or legs is delayed and you have the feeling of not able to move your amrs or legs and feel heavy like stone.
Is there any thing like that our reaction is slow in waking up and we feel like choking etc? Or is this any silly thought invented by me friend.

Cheers.

Dear Sir,

This condition is called Sleep Paralysis where the is an overlap of dream state and waking state.

When we go into REM sleep(rapid eye movement sleep) we have dreams.Some of us remember our dreams and some of us don't.

Ok when we are in REM sleep and start dreaming..our body goes into Atonia(lack of tone)
This state of Atonia is actually important so that we do not act out our dreams.
Imagine you dream that your are chasing the neighbour's wife and actually get up and do so!LOL

Ok back to topic..so you see when we are in awake state..this Atonia disappears and we are able to move our limbs and get up.

But in cases of those who experience sleep paralysis..when the body is awake..the mind is not yet fully awake and this Atonia extends into the wake state.
So the person feels paralysed..unable to move limbs..feels someone pressing on your chest and also sometimes sees images and hears sounds etc.

It can be a real scary experience and one feels as if one is chased by some ghost/alien etc.

But what I am always surprised about is sleep paralysis reactions are always nightmarish..never heard of a pleasant dream in cases of sleep paralysis.

Sleep paralysis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[P.J.]

Raghy Sir
Greetings
("Sir, when looking at your picture, the chances are you may not become a "jada Muni"... you may qualify to become a " bald muni"! ") // ha ha ha..
The Photo of mine is about 8 year old, now i am 73 , nearing 74,
But when i become Jada Muni, i will have more Jadai!!!
Why men only become bald headed?
Cheers!

 

[DR.C.NARAYANI]

Hi all, As stated before ,PAL MUNNI,are considered as guards, to protect a family ,a village etc, A short brief note of mine,I was born & brought up in chennai- T.Nagar,it was a big joint family of 3 generations -19 members,we had a big bungalow,very spacious front ,backyard along with many flowering ,non-flowering plants,a big neem tree, & other fruit bearing trees.My sweet home is just exactaly opposite to Shri Muthapathamman templeray2:, we used to enjoy all the festivals of the temple.Mrs .kappagam ,Mrs pachaiamma,Mr.Pachaiappan were our maids,care taker etc. They used to say AMMAN ARUL VAAKKU during AADAI month ,one fine day they informed my grand mother ,Amma ,we have PAL MUNNI in our neem tree,so we have to worship every tuesdays,offer chakarai pongal ,sundal ,thamboolam ,do arathy.so one fine day they placed 2 bricks ,one horizontal ,other vertical over it.with turmeric paste,kumkum ,flowers etc.all was fine . It was my public /board exams time,myself along with my cousin used to do combine study ,as we on process,all in a sudden we could smell suruttu,very much ,we thought,night watchman of next door ,just ignored it ,later we were able to hear a perfect Chalangai-used for oxen ,sound ,that too for far of place ,as time went it was like coming near , :fear:O M G!!!!, thats all no more preparations for exams ,we just went to bed ,started chanting god s names .next day morning ,we informed to my patti ,amma,chitti ,pachaiamma, they said Do not worry ,Its PAL MUNNI ,:angel:that guards our entire place from temple .still when we meet,its a nostalgic feel ,discuss.These KAAVAL DEVIAM, are more concern about us ,but the feel ,sound can make a person more tensed.

 

[renuka]

One incident I could never forget is when I was pregnant and was staying alone.
At that time I was working in a different state hospital.
My husband used to visit me some 2 times a week cos he was working in a different state.

One night when I was alone ..all of a sudden after midnight I suddenly felt a presence of another entity in my room and I kind of ignored it.
Then suddenly the strong smell of suruttu and burning earth smell filled my room.

I woke up and saw an outline of a tall dark figure standing right near my bed and the room looked filled with smoke.

I was really scared cos I was all alone and some 5-6 months pregnant and I did not dare run anywhere too.

I started chanting Gayatri Mantra non stop and the figure disappeared.
Then I called my mother and brother who stayed some 3 hours away and called them to come.

My mum and bro came at the late of night and till they came I was in my bed covering my head with the blanket.

Those 3 hours waiting for them to come..was just too scary cos I was afraid if the suruttu smoking entity would reappear.

 

[tbs]

One incident I could never forget is when I was pregnant and was staying alone.
At that time I was working in a different state hospital.
My husband used to visit me some 2 times a week cos he was working in a different state.

One night when I was alone ..all of a sudden after midnight I suddenly felt a presence of another entity in my room and I kind of ignored it.
Then suddenly the strong smell of suruttu and burning earth smell filled my room.

I woke up and saw an outline of a tall dark figure standing right near my bed and the room looked filled with smoke.

I was really scared cos I was all alone and some 5-6 months pregnant and I did not dare run anywhere too.

I started chanting Gayatri Mantra non stop and the figure disappeared.
Then I called my mother and brother who stayed some 3 hours away and called them to come.

My mum and bro came at the late of night and till they came I was in my bed covering my head with the blanket.

Those 3 hours waiting for them to come..was just too scary cos I was afraid if the suruttu smoking entity would reappear.

hi
may be some SURUTTU SAAMIYAAR....u might be heard/seen in india......mind is main reason for everything....the subconsious

works faster...

 

[renuka]

The government house I stayed in when I was young was really huge British style double story bungalow.
It had all sorts of entities there..my mum too had seen one walking outside the house.

In Malaysia we have something called Jin.
Jin is sometimes actually reared by some people to take care of their property and house.

They are supposed to be really tall some 8 feet sometimes and furry hairy types.

My mum had seen one walking outside the house we stayed before and it went into the jungle.
Some Jins are on their own and live in jungles too.

Dogs will howl like mad when it comes.

I remember one night I was studying downstairs and I felt as if someone was walking near me.

I was some 15 years old then.

I ignored the feeling and all of a sudden I heard loud heavy footsteps coming towards me and the next moment I felt hot air blow on my face and even my hair was moving.

I screamed like a mad person and ran to my parent's room crying.

Later on we used to hear the same footsteps coming up stairs at midnight and since the stairs was made of wood..we could hear it loudly and also feel the floor vibrating.

So I used to make sure that I finished all my studies way before midnight and sleep fast.

I did not want to be still hanging around awake after midnight.

Becos of fear I used to study when I come back from school and also make sure I did all homework fast.
I was more efficient in studying cos my speed of reading increased knowing I have to finish before midnight.
So my marks and grades improved tremendously owing to that entity.

But later on we sort of got used to it and started ignoring it.
One day I had to stay up late to finish my art assignment and I did not realize it was pass midnight and then when I was painting I was startled by the sound of footsteps and I spilled water all over my painting.

But this time I was not scared..in fact I was angry and blurted out loudly "Look what you did?"

I was blaming the entity for the water spilling.

My parents heard me saying that and asked me "who are you talking too?"

When I told them that I was angry with the entity..that's the time my father decided to get someone to check out the house.
Cos at first even they heard the sounds but they ignored it also but my parents were not too happy that I was starting to talk to it!LOL

So they got an Indian muslim man to cleanse the house and Mr Entity was not heard in the house anymore.

But that whole cleansing ritual and protection was just for the time we stayed there.
We were supposed to remove the protection when we vacate the house...so that Mr Entity and Co could re occupy the space.

Anyway after we left the house was converted to a Sessions Court and becos of non stop hauntings the Court was shifted to a different location and the house was just abandoned.

When I got married I took my husband to see the house and he was "why are you bringing me to an abandoned house surrounded by jungle?"

I said "I liked the house even though it was haunted"

I remember when I stayed there as a teen, one former occupant a chinese woman had got married to a guy from UK.
She brought him all the way from UK to show her husband the house.
She was telling her husband how she used to love staying in the house.

I also brought my husband to show him the house and I told him that some other woman also brought her husband before.

My husband always tells me that he feels the entity was calling back all former female occupants to have a reunion.

Actually I have been some 3 times to that house since I got married.
It is some 3 hours away from where I stay now but now it is already engulfed by the jungle and I can not walk in the house anymore.

Sometimes I wish the state government would sell the house..I will surely buy it.
It was a really beautiful house.

 

[P.J.]

renukaji
Your close encounter with evil spirit is not an imagination; Elders used to tell that evil spirits try to possess pregnant woman. Thanks to chanting Gayathri mantra,you saved yourself.

 

[manoharkumar]

Sometimes I wish the state government would sell the house..I will surely buy it.
It was a really beautiful house.

Dear Dr. you can call that really beautiful haunted house!! BTW thanks for your post on the interpretation of my scary experience. Afterall there is something valid in what my friend said. The overlapping of sleep over waking up had created such a terifying exeprience. Thanks for the clarification.
Also would like to check whether the people affected by these so called possessed by ghosts etc, do astonishing things to their body. Dont they feel any pain afterwards?.
I have seen in chotanikara temple ladies swinging their heads 360 degree roundabout and they move so fast in the ground also as snake!!
There is a big tree near by where in so many thousands of nails have been slamed into the tree. They say that the sould have been imprisoned there after they were removed from the bodies of the people affected. The nails are at impossible heights and it would be humanly not possible for any one affected to climb up there to hit the nails.!!

Cheers.

 

[renuka]

renukaji
Your close encounter with evil spirit is not an imagination; Elders used to tell that evil spirits try to possess pregnant woman. Thanks to chanting Gayathri mantra,you saved yourself.

Dear Sir,

I had another encounter with an evil entity when I was 7 months pregnant.
This was at the hospital on call room.
I was on call and my husband stayed in the on call room with me(married docs are allowed to bring their spouses to stay in the on call room).

I woke up at night and had to conduct a delivery and meanwhile one of the idiotic nurses sent a dead patient from another ward to the morgue without me confirming him dead!

Then when I asked the nurse where is the body..she said she sent it to the morgue.
I rushed to the morgue at 2am cos I did not want a patient to be actually alive and put in the morgue.

So at 2 am I was checking the body at the morgue and the patient was actually dead to start with.
I was really mad with the nurse for taking law in her own hands and sending a dead body to the morgue without doctor confirming the death.

Ok now this morgue is situated next to a chinese graveyard.
The grave yard is just a few meters away separated by a fence.

Then I went back to sleep on my on call room.

I had a dream that night that a Pontianak Ghost(A local Ghost which preys upon pregnant ladies) was hanging on the ceiling fan.

Then in my dream I saw her come down and hit my abdomen hard.
I woke up cos it was painfu..but since I had some other cases to see I did not really care much about my dream.

In a few hours later I went into premature contractions and I was worried cos I was only some 32 weeks pregnant and did not want to deliver prematurely.

Then I told my husband the dream and he told me that he felt he saw a Pontianak above me in the on call room.

I told my husband why didn't you wake me up?

He said he had never seen a ghost before so he was not sure if he was imagining it.
But he said he was sure..he saw the ghost floating right above me and it was first hanging on the fan.

I told him that matches my dream.

I was put on medications to prevent premature labour and thank God I did not go into premature labour.

In my dream I was hit in the abdomen and that side of the abdomen was actually painful and tender when I woke up as if someone had hit me.

 

[renuka]

Also would like to check whether the people affected by these so called possessed by ghosts etc, do astonishing things to their body. Dont they feel any pain afterwards?.

Cheers.

Dear Sir,

I have heard of cases of possession..one of my mum's cousin had got possessed.
She was unmarried then.

She is pure veg and one night she woke her mother up asking for meat.
Everyone was shocked and thought that she was just kidding.
Then the next day she bought beer and mutton home and started drinking and eating.

Everyone at their home was shocked that how a pure veg girl suddenly started eating mutton and drinking beer.
She also asked for suruttu.

Then everyone started suspecting something not right.
So they did not allow her to go out of the house and wanted to do some prayers.

She was getting agitated that there was no meat and alcohol and started biting her fingers and sucking the blood.

Then her voice grew deep like a man's voice and was shouting at everyone for meat and beer and suruttu.

Her family had seen some local exorcists and got the ghost removed.

The ghost made so many demands..asked for so much beer(it's stout actually there is black colored alcoholic drink called Stout here)..so much mutton fry ate and drank non stop for hours and after the final pooja was done...the ghost left.

 

[P.J.]

Renukaji
That is why Hindus,especially from Tamil Nadu, perform Valaikappu ceremony during odd months , to protect the pregnant woman from these Evil spirits. They first put NEEM KAPPU which is believed to be a protection against evil spirits and these KAAPUS are to remain till the delivery.
Other Glass bangles might be for the baby to hear the sound.
Once Valai Kappu is performed , the pregnant woman is not supposed to go out.
Elders devised these ceremonies only for the good of pregnant woman.

 

[Raghy]

hi
may be some SURUTTU SAAMIYAAR....u might be heard/seen in india......mind is main reason for everything....the subconsious

works faster...

Sri. tbs, Greetings.

I am glad I didn't travel much..... from 1996 until the end of 2004 I used to smoke cigars. Very similar cigars like in the movie 'Padayappa'.... they were Havana cigars... When I moved to Canada in 2005 I couldn't buy them there.. I had nice trimmed beard too ( i am starting a beard now.... snow white! ).. Someone coild have very easily mistook me for a 'suruttu Samiyar' although I don't even have any 'snana prapthi' to the term 'samiyar!'...

Cheers!

 

[Raghy]

Dear Raghy Sir,

i used to have this experience of not able to move my arms or the legs, and feel like somebody is sitting on me and crushing me and my voice is choked, and at times i have woken up with severe headache and sometimes shouting also(making my wife even more freightened)... Used to tell her some bad dream but not the feeling of chokeness or not able to move my arm etc.
One of my friend used to say that there could a situation where in when you are in deep sleep, and suddenly your brain wakes up and the body reaction etc are delayed due to some problem with your nerves, the command from brain to your arms or legs is delayed and you have the feeling of not able to move your amrs or legs and feel heavy like stone.
Is there any thing like that our reaction is slow in waking up and we feel like choking etc? Or is this any silly thought invented by me friend.

Cheers.

Sri. Mohan Kumar, greetings.

1. Kindly get a cardiac test conducted, please. The presentation explained by you is uncomfortably too close to chest pain. It is not a bad idea to check atleast for ECG; if possible for the whole cardio.

2. Renuka has explained the phenomenon in post #110.

3. My grand mother went through this very same experience few times. What she said was more interesting to this thread. Usually this happened only when we used to sleep at the open space in 'Mottai Maadi'. She used to call it 'amukku pisaasu!' (அமுக்குப் பிசாசு ). She would wake me up, make all sorts of dramatising and would drag me downstairs! Naturally, I never had the pleasure of meeting this ghost at anytime though! out:

Cheers!

 

[manoharkumar]

Dear Raghy Sir,

thanks for the suggestion. Yes this week end i am having a whole body test slotted out. Will have athrough check done.Nice of you to suggest.

Cheers.