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Growing live-in relationships - is it threat to india?

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Dear Sri Jaykay767 Ji,

You said
let me assure you, most of these people lives are messed up, their kids are in a even bigger mess, but they will continue to propagate this.
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Really? :)

Where did you get evidence to spread this bovine scatology, sir!

Regards,
KRS
 
Dear KRS, with all due respect, when we use even mild rebukes, you take offence. but u seem to enjoy using the bovine scatology word. well, u know by now, many of us are more than capable in responding to such words. Many of the people who propagate these neo age views themselves are part of IC/IR marriages, torn in their lives not knowing which religion to follow, they find their better / bitter half is not interested in his/her religion. The kids are even more lost, they don't follow any religion. Cheers,
 
Dear Sri Jaykay767 Ji,

I appreciate your measured response. You probably noticed that my response was towards the validity of your opinion/idea, not towards your personna.

When you make such serious charges against a whole group of folks, their families and children I have to interject.

Can you substantiate your claim of
most of these people lives are messed up, their kids are in a even bigger mess
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I know you made fun of me asking this elsewhere, but when you make such a statement, I would like you to substantiate it with some proof.

Otherwise, if you care, you lose credibility in this Forum, in the eyes of the majority here. No one will take you seriously. If you are okay with this, please keep on making such generalizations, which are obviously not true.

Regards,
KRS
 
Dear KRS, Sure, pl feel free to ask me to substantiate any of my statements. I am more than happy to respond. I have found in most of the IC/IR marriages where both follow different religions, cultures & fight over it constantly. The kids are confused and they don't follow any religion so that don't have any strong moorings, they don't come up with strong values. so they indulge in sex in their teen years, these parents are not bothered because they justify saying this is the new age. so many many of these kids are messed up & don't marry at all or end up in another confused IC/IR marriages or in live-in relationship or suddenly they discover they are Gay/lesbians - LOL !!. some of us including me would choose to call this messed up !! Cheers.
 
prasad1 said:
There are few members in this forum, who constantly worry that Indian culture is being corrupted by "aping the west", some of them even live in the west.
There are great practices in the west, east and everywhere. No one can claim any original ideas or culture as totally indigenous to any region. There are bad practices all over the globe as well.
Every 'old' generation laments the progress of the present generation, it was true in the past, it will be same in future.
No one can stop time.
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It only PROVES that the deterioration
from generation to generation is
REAL, INCREASING and Unstoppable.

There are also a few members in the forum
who believe that living in the west is a boon given
for the sat karma done in the previous janmas.
(The contrary is more likely to be true!!!)

Money for spending in one's own pleasure and
liberty to live in any which way one chooses to,
are the two undeniable benefits in living in the west.

People can do these in the East also.
But in the west it will not create any curiosity
and no eyebrows will be raised at such things.

USA is a heaven for those who have opted for
non traditional wedding and non Brahmin spouses.
 
Finally everything depends on the economic factors.
Sharing the expenses may extend to
sharing love, affection and you know what!
When children are not in the plan,
it becomes so much easier
to unite / separate at the drop of a hat.
 
Raji Ram said:
'pAnch'Ali = :grouphug:

That is the clue!!
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Paanchali got her name NOT from paanch hubbies
but from the Paanchaala desam - her country!
No wonder I missed the joke completely!

In the epic Mahābhārata, Draupadi, also known as Kṛṣṇā draupadī (Devanagari: कृष्णा द्रौपदी; approximate pronunciation: [krɪʂɳaː d̪rəʊpəd̪iː]) is the "emerged" daughter of King Drupada of Panchāla and the wife of the five Pandavas.
Courtesy Wikipedia.
 
Jaykay767 said:
... so many many of these kids are messed up & don't marry at all or end up in another confused IC/IR marriages or in live-in relationship or suddenly they discover they are Gay/lesbians - LOL !!. some of us including me would choose to call this messed up !! Cheers.
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amazing!! truly amazing!! where did you get all this stuff?

and here i was thinking that gay/lesbian was genetic caused. now i find out, that it is due to IC/IR marriage. btw is IR, Inter Religious only or can also be Inter Racial?

wow!!
 
kunjuppu said:
amazing!! truly amazing!! where did you get all this stuff?

and here i was thinking that gay/lesbian was genetic caused. now i find out, that it is due to IC/IR marriage. btw is IR, Inter Religious only or can also be Inter Racial?

wow!!
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Shri Kunjuppu,


Shri Jaykay didn't say that Gay/Lesbians happen to exists because of IC/IR marriage.


His statement is very much clear to understand what he is saying. He said, Messed up kids end up choosing not to marry at all, or end up in another confused IC/IR marriage OR end up opting live-in-relationship with all the uncertainties and physical & emotional damages it cause with sense of insecurity OR they suddenly discover and announce that they are Actually Gay/Lesbians and thus would opt for a Gay Marriage or chose to continue with enjoying Gay/Lesbian relationship without opting Gay Marriage.

PS. This post of mine is just to highlight that is been clearly stated by Shri.Jaykay. Not to agree or disagree with his statement.
 
I thought it is only the old men mentality of controlling women, and their reproductive rights, It is sad to see young people with such old thinking. May be it is time to analyse to see why these old-idead young people have to remain single, the answer may be in their way of thinking. A 30 year old with 90 year old mindset has to remain single and no one else to blame for the situation.
 
C RAVI said:
S..Messed up kids end up choosing not to marry at all, or end up in another confused IC/IR marriage OR end up opting live-in-relationship with all the uncertainties and physical & emotional damages it cause with sense of insecurity OR they suddenly discover and announce that they are Actually Gay/Lesbians and thus would opt for a Gay Marriage or chose to continue with enjoying Gay/Lesbian relationship without opting Gay Marriage.
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Homosexuality does not happen due to such uncertainty or insecurity. Right from teens, some feel attraction towards same sex. In brief here: Scientists May Have Finally Unlocked Puzzle of Why People Are Gay - US News and World Report. A more detailed explanation here: Scientists claim that homosexuality is not genetic ? but it arises in the womb
 
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Dear Sri Jaykay767 Ji - I have been patient. Please cut this type of posting out.

KRS
 
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palindrome said:
Homosexuality does not happen due to such uncertainty or insecurity. Right from teens, some feel attraction towards same sex. In brief here: Scientists May Have Finally Unlocked Puzzle of Why People Are Gay - US News and World Report. A more detailed explanation here: Scientists claim that homosexuality is not genetic ? but it arises in the womb
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That's true!!

BUT, do you have any idea how many kids been put into gay/lesbian addiction without their natural inclination?

These boys and girls who were been influenced and got into the addiction come under the category of those in general whom we consider naturally bisexuals.

These boys and girls who were all unfortunately influenced are those who didn't have legitimate parents/parenting or had messed up family.

Also, do you have any idea (if at all you have read many cases), as how many boys and girls are sexually abused by Homosexuals, without the knowledge, understanding and acceptance of the victims who are not naturally inclined towards homosexuality and what sort of psychological issues it creates on these victims?
 
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prasad1 said:
I thought it is only the old men mentality of controlling women, and their reproductive rights, It is sad to see young people with such old thinking. May be it is time to analyse to see why these old-idead young people have to remain single, the answer may be in their way of thinking. A 30 year old with 90 year old mindset has to remain single and no one else to blame for the situation.
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This is exactly what I used to think before coming across the forum about older people/men. But on the contrary older men in this forum are some of the most mellow, broader minded and the least radical. We are now witnessing the radicalisation of male youth and young men, across the board imho.
 
We still do not have clear understanding of Homosexuality. Is it inherited, or learned behavior?
Exactly how widespread homosexuality is in the animal kingdom is still unknown. Researchers have usually not looked for it or they have dismissed it as an aberration when they encountered it. The relatively shallow pool of knowledge pertaining to animal homosexuality makes it difficult to arrive at solid conclusions about how it evolved and exactly what adaptive functions it plays in animal populations and reproductive success. As complex an issue as all sexuality is, however, the factors causing and governing homosexuality are doubtlessly complex and many.

A Paradox of Evolution

A study published by the American Sociological Review found that the adopted children of gay couples grow into well-adjusted individuals. The study found that there were no differences in the personalities between children raised by gay couples and those raised by heterosexual couples. The children of gay couples are no more likely to identify as homosexuals than the children of heterosexual couples.


Read more: The Effects Of Gay Adoption | LIVESTRONG.COM

If it can be shown that Homosexuality is a learned behavior and not an instinctive choice, there should be social and legal pressure to limit homosexuality. Then the learned behavior can be modified and potentially homosexuality can be eradicated.
This has not been demonstrated. Going by the present research in this field and finding that it is common in Animal world we have to accept it as a natural behavior.
 
Research indicates that various forms of same-sex sexual behavior are found throughout the animal kingdom. A new review made in 2009 of existing research showed that same-sex behavior is a nearly universal phenomenon in the animal kingdom, common across species. Homosexual behavior is best known from social species. According to geneticist Simon Levay in 1996, "Although homosexual behavior is very common in the animal world, it seems to be very uncommon that individual animals have a long-lasting predisposition to engage in such behavior to the exclusion of heterosexual activities. Thus, a homosexual orientation, if one can speak of such thing in animals, seems to be a rarity." One species in which exclusive homosexual orientation occurs, however, is that of domesticated sheep (Ovis aries). "About 10% of rams (males) refuse to mate with ewes (females) but do readily mate with other rams."

Homosexual behavior in animals - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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